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chjado65
06-09-2012, 09:21 AM
I'm in the process of learning as much as I can about multi boxing before I dive in. I may have missed this in one of the forums. What happens when the toon you are driving (master) is killed? Are there macros or ways to easily switch toons from slave to master?
Khatovar
06-09-2012, 09:33 AM
You'd use and FTL setup to quickswap to a new Master toon

What is FTL? (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/24467-What-is-FTL)
What is FTL and Keyclone setup (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/10968-Focusless-targetless-leaderless-(FTL)-setup)
FTL with HotKeyNet Templates (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/17555-Implementing-an-FTL-quite-simple-with-templates)
FTL with ISBoxer (http://isboxer.com/wiki/WoW:FTL)
FTL with Jamba (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/10968-Focusless-targetless-leaderless-(FTL)-setup)
Lax
06-09-2012, 10:05 AM
"FTL" is mostly WoW-specific (but also translates pretty well to RIFT macros); the same thing can be accomplished in most other MMORPGs as well.

For ISBoxer, here's How to set up follow/assist from any window for pretty much any MMORPG (video from MiRai included): http://isboxer.com/wiki/Common_modifications#The_game.27s_Key_Bindings
valkry
06-10-2012, 06:14 AM
The snake keeps wriggling for quite some time

As for me, I have 4 different hotkeys which sets my leader as 1 of 4 toons. If the leader dies, I punch one of them and alt tab to that window, takes about 1 second to swap i think.
Noids
06-10-2012, 08:04 AM
In a lot of cases I find you don't even need to swap active windows. Generally when your lead character dies (at least in WoW) you can still target other players which lets you continue to dps. Also if you are running dps toons that have a battle res like DKs or druids, I run a macro in the dps spam which will automatically cast battle res on my lead toon if it dies.
Ualaa
06-10-2012, 03:34 PM
The only times you actually need to change from your lead to another toon are:
a) The lead is under a CC effect, which occasionally prevents your slaves from registering target changes... but swapping to a new lead, or even to anything and back to the previous will remove this restriction.
b) The lead has been killed, and either looted or the battle has moved beyond what he can see.

Just about any software will let you switch to a different toon, who is on the same computer.
With some the swap is instant, with others it might take a few seconds.
But you should be good to go, thereafter.

Even if you're not using an FTL assist.
Whether your assist is Focus based, Target based or Leader based, the act of switching to the new window will also send the leader update to the team.
Meaning, with even very minimal macros, the team can continue without issue.
Ughmahedhurtz
06-10-2012, 07:59 PM
The answer is: don't be a snake -- be a hydra. ;)

(see the FTL links above)
EaTCarbS
06-10-2012, 10:54 PM
I am crazy and use a focus based setup instead. Works quite well for me, but im sure that FTL is better.
Noids
06-11-2012, 08:57 AM
Focus based setup can still be leaderless and generally involve less complicated macros than FTL setups. Focus is always set to the leader or active toon and your window swap hotkey automatically switches your focus to the new active window.

The advantage to having a focusless setup is that your focus is freed up to be allocated to cc or focus dps targets.

The advantage to targetless setup is that your selected target is not kept targeted the entire time making it slighty more difficult for the enemy to anticipate target changes etc.

Both of these setups can be hard coded to a single leader or made leaderless as described above.
Apps
06-11-2012, 09:10 AM
The answer is: don't be a snake -- be a hydra. ;)

(see the FTL links above)


Ugh, that is clever! I see what you did there.

BTW, is hydra still a viable multiplexer? I.e. is it still around?
valkry
06-11-2012, 10:45 AM
Focus based setup can still be leaderless and generally involve less complicated macros than FTL setups. Focus is always set to the leader or active toon and your window swap hotkey automatically switches your focus to the new active window.

The advantage to having a focusless setup is that your focus is freed up to be allocated to cc or focus dps targets.

The advantage to targetless setup is that your selected target is not kept targeted the entire time making it slighty more difficult for the enemy to anticipate target changes etc.

Both of these setups can be hard coded to a single leader or made leaderless as described above.
I too am like EaTCarbs and use a focus system. And although you make a point about enemy anticipating target changes, I counter with your slaves don't target the enemy unless they /assist the lead, AND you can make them /assist the lad while on someone else then switch, making them think all the spells are going to hit the person being targeted by 4 enemies, instead of the person who my leader is looking at. So you can make having your slaves target someone work for you :P
Lyonheart
06-11-2012, 11:53 AM
If your solo.. just stay away from multiboxers.. you will die! ( since your really just researching how to kill multiboxers )
5orbust
06-19-2012, 01:25 AM
If your solo.. just stay away from multiboxers.. you will die! ( since your really just researching how to kill multiboxers )

lol
Apps
06-20-2012, 01:38 PM
If your solo.. just stay away from multiboxers.. you will die! ( since your really just researching how to kill multiboxers )

Im only quoting Lyonheart to add to his comment.

...since you really juset researched how to kill multiboxers. Incidentally, which ISNT fear us, and then kill the lead toon. Guess what? we adapted to that tactic from 4 years ago.


Its funny to watch the QQ-ers on the forums still rage about how its so easy to kill all boxers by fear bombing... and by funny I really mean ignorant.