Beginner's Questions

[eliijah]

Hey,

And hello to boxing community ; I'm ekko ! I've (I@I've) just started to learn how to multibox and I'm wondering if you could be so kind as to help me out with a few things.

I'm levelling 5 goblin shamans using ISBOXER and so far no other program apart from the in-game addon.

I plan to level by quests and dungeons, here's my first issue:

Gathering quests: I've met my first one in the goblin starting area (collecting crates), it seems like pain the bum to have to individually collect on each toon. Are these kind of quests avoidable in the future ; are there any addons to streamline to levelling process, so you can avoid them?

My second issue, it I'd like my SLAVES to cast for example LIGHTNING BOLT at the SAME TARGET as my MASTER is attacking. I've tried using various options in the FTL keymap sections on the out of game Inner Space software menu, but so far to no avail. I've previously made assist macro's in-game but I believe with this program it isn't neccessary.

When handing in quests or picking them up, I usually have to press the combination off Shift+ctrl+delete, to broadcast
too all my toons then watch the cursor hover over the NPC and then click, problem is my camera angle is different on each toon and it means I have to take time to make sure each NPC is clicked on by the relevant toon. I'm sure also that the combination of shift+ctrl+delete is the wrong way to hand-in and pick-up quests. I know there's an interact with target Key map but I'm not sure how to use it. Would you have to make sure all toons got the correct target first? And, how would you do this?

I've read a couple of guides, but I'm not too savy with most of this stuff. If anyone could shed some light, I'd be much oblidged.

Thanks,

:)

[EaTCarbS]

Welcome to Dual-Boxing! I will address your questions to the best of my ability.
(Inb4 Ualaa comes with an epic reply)



Gathering quests: I've met my first one in the goblin starting area (collecting crates), it seems like pain the bum to have to individually collect on each toon. Are these kind of quests avoidable in the future ; are there any addons to streamline to levelling process, so you can avoid them?
With how Blizzard is setting up quests, it is pretty hard to avoid gathering quests without leaving yourself high and dry without quests to do. I know that you can get through Outland and possibly Northrend without doing gathering quests, but for the rest you may have to just tough them out.


My second issue, it I'd like my SLAVES to cast for example LIGHTNING BOLT at the SAME TARGET as my MASTER is attacking. I've tried using various options in the FTL keymap sections on the out of game Inner Space software menu, but so far to no avail. I've previously made assist macro's in-game but I believe with this program it isn't neccessary.
I prefer to do all of that stuff in game rather than rely on the software to do it for me. I personally use a focus based setup to achieve my goals. My macros look something like:
/cast [target=focustarget] Lightning Bolt You will need to set whichever toon you are leading with as your focus for this to work.


When handing in quests or picking them up, I usually have to press the combination off Shift+ctrl+delete, to broadcast
too all my toons then watch the cursor hover over the NPC and then click, problem is my camera angle is different on each toon and it means I have to take time to make sure each NPC is clicked on by the relevant toon. I'm sure also that the combination of shift+ctrl+delete is the wrong way to hand-in and pick-up quests. I know there's an interact with target Key map but I'm not sure how to use it. Would you have to make sure all toons got the correct target first? And, how would you do this?
You will have to set a key bind in game to set Interact with Target. Then you'll need to make sure you have that key in your keymap. If you enable click to move, your characters will run to the target you use the interact function with. As far as lining up your windows, you can also set keybinds in game for camera angles.

[JohnGabriel]

Gathering quests: I've met my first one in the goblin starting area (collecting crates), it seems like pain the bum to have to individually collect on each toon. Are these kind of quests avoidable in the future ; are there any addons to streamline to levelling process, so you can avoid them?


Yeah they suck, but most you HAVE to do in order to open up the remaining quests in the chain. Pass on all collection quests that you can, but you may have to go back and do some if you to level up before leaving an area.

Using IsBoxer's FTL setup helps, you just switch to another slave when one has it completed, or use the IWT key.



My second issue, it I'd like my SLAVES to cast for example LIGHTNING BOLT at the SAME TARGET as my MASTER is attacking. I've tried using various options in the FTL keymap sections on the out of game Inner Space software menu, but so far to no avail. I've previously made assist macro's in-game but I believe with this program it isn't neccessary.


Right out of the box IsBoxer should be doing this. You should have no need for macros to do this.



When handing in quests or picking them up, I usually have to press the combination off Shift+ctrl+delete, to broadcast
too all my toons then watch the cursor hover over the NPC and then click, problem is my camera angle is different on each toon and it means I have to take time to make sure each NPC is clicked on by the relevant toon. I'm sure also that the combination of shift+ctrl+delete is the wrong way to hand-in and pick-up quests. I know there's an interact with target Key map but I'm not sure how to use it. Would you have to make sure all toons got the correct target first? And, how would you do this?


You need to install the Jamba addon. That takes care of what IsBoxer cant.

All I do is select the quest NPC, hit my IWT keybind, then accept or turn in the quest as normal, and all slaves copy the master.

[Khatovar]

Gathering quests: I've met my first one in the goblin starting area (collecting crates), it seems like pain the bum to have to individually collect on each toon. Are these kind of quests avoidable in the future ; are there any addons to streamline to levelling process, so you can avoid them?

Not really. It's just one of the things we have to deal with. the way the quests are set up now, you don't really have much choice with what you can and can't do. Luckily the XP boost that lower level zones have gotten over time means you don't really have to do every quest in a zone before you're ready for the next zone. If they are easy, like "get 4 boxes of junk off the ground" I usually have no problem just toughing it out. It's the ones that require you to kill mobs to get a drop that drive me crazy, cuz I always seem to run out of mobs. Especially if they aren't a 100% drop.



My second issue, it I'd like my SLAVES to cast for example LIGHTNING BOLT at the SAME TARGET as my MASTER is attacking. I've tried using various options in the FTL keymap sections on the out of game Inner Space software menu, but so far to no avail. I've previously made assist macro's in-game but I believe with this program it isn't neccessary.


With ISBoxer, it should be built in. I'm guessing something is off in your config. You'll probably need to share your configuration (http://isboxer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=13) so people can see how you are set up. Other people, not me, cuz I know nothing about ISBoxer ;)


When handing in quests or picking them up, I usually have to press the combination off Shift+ctrl+delete, to broadcast
too all my toons then watch the cursor hover over the NPC and then click, problem is my camera angle is different on each toon and it means I have to take time to make sure each NPC is clicked on by the relevant toon. I'm sure also that the combination of shift+ctrl+delete is the wrong way to hand-in and pick-up quests. I know there's an interact with target Key map but I'm not sure how to use it. Would you have to make sure all toons got the correct target first? And, how would you do this?

I couldn't tell you how to set up the actual keymaps in ISBoxer, but you want Interact with Target and Click to move enabled. You will also probably want to set up Jamba so you can automatically mirror your master's actions on your slaves instead of passing your mouse broadcasting. I go over IWT and CtM in the Newbie's Guide Vol 1 (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/36955-Newb-s-Guide-to-Multiboxing-Start-here-if-you-are-brand-new-to-Multiboxing). It starts at the bottom half of this post (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/36955-Newb-s-Guide-to-Multiboxing-Start-here-if-you-are-brand-new-to-Multiboxing?p=322299&viewfull=1#post322299) and continues here (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/36955-Newb-s-Guide-to-Multiboxing-Start-here-if-you-are-brand-new-to-Multiboxing?p=322300&viewfull=1#post322300).


I also go over setting up Jamba in this guide (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/28573-Jamba-Getting-Started). The Quest section is halfway through this post (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/28573-Jamba-Getting-Started?p=265230&viewfull=1#post265230).

[Alge]

My second issue, it I'd like my SLAVES to cast for example LIGHTNING BOLT at the SAME TARGET as my MASTER is attacking. I've tried using various options in the FTL keymap sections on the out of game Inner Space software menu, but so far to no avail. I've previously made assist macro's in-game but I believe with this program it isn't neccessary.You do not need to use any in-game macros to get auto-assist working as it is built into ISBoxer for WoW. Focus, specifically, is much better used for other purposes (CC is one example).

By default the keys 1 through = have auto-assist included, see WoW Quick Start Guide (http://isboxer.com/wiki/WoW:Quick_Start_Guide#Hotkeys_created_by_the_Quick _Setup_Wizard_for_WoW). So, if you put lightning bolt in your first action bar slot on all your slaves, then when you press "1" all the slaves will assist the master and cast lightning bolt. If you wish to obtain auto-assist on other keys the easiest way is to use the ISBoxer Mapped Key Wizard and create an "Assist and Broadcast" Mapped Key in FTL DPS Keys.

[eliijah]

Thanks for the replies :)


I must of changed some setting before due to the Lightning bolt not being broadcast across all toons.
Due to the many different accounts I had, I had to restore the Default in-game Key Bindings for each account, so each were the same. I bound the following keys in-game to help with QUESTS as suggested:

Set View 2 ]
Set View 3 [
Interact with Mouseover '
Ineract with Target ;

For some reason now when I press the normal key bindings in-game nothing happens. This includes keys 1-10. Before when I hit "1" on my action bar this would make my toon start casting lightning bold and broadcast to all other toons. Not sure what I've done, but on the main screen when I hit 1 on my keyboard nothing happens aswell as no broadcast. Same with most other commands ; it's like it's being blocked by something.

Thanks for the link to Jamba I can see how it will be useful.



Here's my settings as suggested:

http://www.privatepaste.com/d17daf4650

Thanks for the help, once again :)

Ek
I breifly got this to work

[Alge]

Your FTL DPS Keys Key Map has "World of Warcraft: Use FTL Modifiers" checked. It should not be checked.

[eliijah]

Your FTL DPS Keys Key Map has "World of Warcraft: Use FTL Modifiers" checked. It should not be checked.

Thanks, this seems to be working now. However, on my other screens when I cast lightning bolt it says ; "You have no Target", any ideas?

[eliijah]

fixed

[3box]

Well, I will just say....the goblin starting area sucks ass. I'm pretty sure you have to do all of the quests there in order to get the racial(summon personal bank). Lots and lots of collection quests. Just finished all the quests with a goblin mage team. Pure hell indeed.

[eliijah]

Well, I will just say....the goblin starting area sucks ass. I'm pretty sure you have to do all of the quests there in order to get the racial(summon personal bank). Lots and lots of collection quests. Just finished all the quests with a goblin mage team. Pure hell indeed.

Just finding this out now... About level 7 at the moement. What level did you finish the area? I'm doing 5 shamans atm

[ebony]

Well, I will just say....the goblin starting area sucks ass. I'm pretty sure you have to do all of the quests there in order to get the racial(summon personal bank). Lots and lots of collection quests. Just finished all the quests with a goblin mage team. Pure hell indeed.

There is noway out the starting zone that i know of unless you like to pay Real Life money to change after. Only good thing is a lot of the pickups are 100% drops its just Slow. Saying that there is not many quests in the game with low drops anymore. Nothing like the old days.


Just finding this out now... About level 7 at the moement. What level did you finish the area? I'm doing 5 shamans atm

its about level 13 no RAF the zone goes on for a long time. theres 3 or 4 parts and u have to do all quests. i did it a few weeks ago took me about 7 hours before i left the zone then i changed my mind and just payed the £100 to change my gnomes.

[3box]

Just finding this out now... About level 7 at the moement. What level did you finish the area? I'm doing 5 shamans atm

Level 16, with RaF. I followed Zygor's guide. After a certain point, a lot of the quests become grey also, to add insult to injury.

[JackBurton]

With Zygor's Guides it should be default advise you to leap ahead/skip the older quests. go into the options and make sure thats enabled.

[Ualaa]

@JackBurton
While the Zygor Guides addon might let you skip greyed out quests (not sure if you can set it to skip a quest that has to be completed in order, before you can progress with the quest chain), doing so wouldn't help you.

You need to do all of the quests, in order to escape the starting area.

I know, later on you can set it to skip quests that are non-beneficial.
And it will have you do a few here and there, but only because they are prerequisites for later quests, which will not be greyed out.



I would probably do the Goblin zone once.
And if I ever felt the need for another Goblin character... level anything else, and then race change afterwards.
A hundred bucks is a better choice than that degree of gathering, an extra time through with five toons.

[eliijah]

Can one not just get a mass summon to a dungeon entrance and level that way?

Can anyone advise me on whether I should pick up all the professions and try levelling them all at the same time ; using Vidfx on isboxer?

thanks,

Ek

[ebony]

Can one not just get a mass summon to a dungeon entrance and level that way?

Can anyone advise me on whether I should pick up all the professions and try levelling them all at the same time ; using Vidfx on isboxer?

thanks,

Ek

mass summon does not work pvp queng does not work LFG does not work warlock summon does not work (though i got told it does :S) Raf Summon does not work that av tested it. it just comes up with red text saying you can not leave. and you will not get your bank pet if u can even get out somehow.


GM Support will not help as well even though i said i done it 100 times and its doing my head in.

the only way is to level trolls or something and then race change them later. but it will be $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Khatovar]

I really wouldn't bother with professions while leveling, especially if you don't already have a max level team.

One problem you will run into is that herbalism and mining give significant XP, which will cause whoever has those professions to level ahead of the rest of the team.

Secondly, you will have a very difficult if not totally impossible time of keeping your tradeskills up to par vs the zones you are in. Solo players are constantly complaining that they grey out leveling content in zones LONG before they level out tradeskill content {ore, herbs, skins, cloth}, it will be much worse for a multiboxer, especially if you do any leveling in dungeons or battlegrounds, have heirlooms or guild XP bonuses or RAF.

It'll be much less of a headache to just go back and level up when you have money saved, fast mounts and the ability to mindlessly faceroll whatever content you need for mats.

From my understanding, Goblins can't leave the starting area at all until they complete the questline. If you try to summon them out, they will get an error message about fulfilling their Bilgewater Destiny or some such.

[eliijah]

Yeah running into lots of gathering quests at the moment. Level 9.5 now so hopefully only a couple more levels to go. At least it's only a 6-12 level zone ;

http://www.wowwiki.com/Lost_Isles

Thanks for the info.

Ek

[eliijah]

@JackBurton
While the Zygor Guides addon might let you skip greyed out quests (not sure if you can set it to skip a quest that has to be completed in order, before you can progress with the quest chain), doing so wouldn't help you.

You need to do all of the quests, in order to escape the starting area.

I know, later on you can set it to skip quests that are non-beneficial.
And it will have you do a few here and there, but only because they are prerequisites for later quests, which will not be greyed out.



I would probably do the Goblin zone once.
And if I ever felt the need for another Goblin character... level anything else, and then race change afterwards.
A hundred bucks is a better choice than that degree of gathering, an extra time through with five toons.

If you plan on boxing alot of characters is Zygor's guide really needed?
I'm also wondering whether you can LFD with 5 shamans? Not sure whether a tank is needed.

thanks,

Ek

[Khatovar]

I have never used a leveling guide and I've been at this a few years, with many teams under my belt.

Dungeon Finder requires that each role must be filled, so you need a tank-capable toon, healing-capable toon and 3 DPS-capable toons. You won't be able to use the Dungeon Finder to queue all shamans.

[eliijah]

I have never used a leveling guide and I've been at this a few years, with many teams under my belt.

Dungeon Finder requires that each role must be filled, so you need a tank-capable toon, healing-capable toon and 3 DPS-capable toons. You won't be able to use the Dungeon Finder to queue all shamans.

Ah ok, thanks.

I'm currently level 13 running 5 goblin shamans. Any advice on where I should level next? Anyone levelled 5 horde shammies to 85? I went to Ragefire at level 12 but kept on wiping. Battleground xp doesn't give enough xp to warrent doing it either.

[MiRai]

Ah ok, thanks.

I'm currently level 13 running 5 goblin shamans. Any advice on where I should level next? Anyone levelled 5 horde shammies to 85? I went to Ragefire at level 12 but kept on wiping. Battleground xp doesn't give enough xp to warrent doing it either.
Cataclysm made questing pretty linear...

Did they not give you a quest to go to another zone? There's also a Warchief's Command Board (http://www.wowpedia.org/Warchief%27s_Command_Board) in all of the major cities that will tell you which zones you're eligible for.

[eliijah]

Cataclysm made questing pretty linear...

Did they not give you a quest to go to another zone? There's also a Warchief's Command Board (http://www.wowpedia.org/Warchief's_Command_Board) in all of the major cities that will tell you which zones you're eligible for.

I'm currently questing in the barrens. Every other quest seems like a gathering quest level 12-13.5 has taken me about 4 hours. ;( . I'm just wondering whether anyone has run a group of 5 horde ele shamans before and how the found the most efficent method of levelling to be.

Ek

[Ualaa]

A quest stacking guide will make Classic through WotLK content a little faster.
You don't need a stacking guide, and some of the quests it thinks you should take will be very annoying collections... if you do them as a boxer.
Cata is incredibly linear... but MoP is supposed to be less so.

There are free versions, like the Jaime guide, for both factions.

Of the pay guides, I like the Zygor Guides.
It isn't just a leveling tool, it will give you the fastest method for raising factions, gaining titles, acquiring mounts or non-combat pets, etc...
But those are completely optional.

[eliijah]

Has anyone got any ideas on the following:I want to be able to use Wind Shear across all my characters at different times. So, I can chain interrupt. I've met a boss in wailing caverns called "Skum" who Chain Lightnings, and it would be quite nice to chain interrupt him. I was also wondering whether I could do the same thing with Thunderstorm? So I could chain bounce Packs of Mobs/Bosses back when they get in-range? I can think of a few possible ways of doing this, like putting Thunderstorm for example of a different place on the action bar across all characters, but that seems a bit inefficient. Anyone have any ideas?Thanks,Ek

[Khatovar]

Easily. You want to use round robin (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/44517-help-setting-up-round-robin) for that.

[eliijah]

Easily. You want to use round robin (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/44517-help-setting-up-round-robin) for that.Nice one mate, thank you, all working now. :)