Keyclone maximzer isn't stretching WoW windows correctly

[Evilseed]

Hello there,

I've decided to redo my keyclone setup and use PiP/Maximizer, however, I can't get past an issue with WoW windows not stretching correctly.

Take a look at the image below to see what I mean. The 5 wow windows on the right aren't stretching all the way as they should.

http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=keyclonejq0.jpg http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4086/keyclonejq0.jpg

Any idea how to fix this?

My keyclones.ini is barebones with this:



[regions]
count=5
region_name_00='Main'
region_00=1,0,0,1600,1599,0,0
region_pip_00=0,(0.0.0)
region_name_01='region1'
region_01=1,1600,0,2559,400,0,0
region_pip_01=0,(0.0.0)
region_name_02='region2'
region_02=1,1600,400,2559,800,0,0
region_pip_02=0,(0.0.0)
region_name_03='region3'
region_03=1,1600,800,2559,1200,0,0
region_pip_03=0,(0.0.0)
region_name_04='region4'
region_04=1,1600,1200,255

[Evilseed]

Also, when I use PiP to switch windows, the resolution of any of the right side windows is messed up when moved to the main, and vice versa.

Basically it doesn't look like keyclone is setting the right resolution?

If it matters, I have a 30" monitor running 2560x1600 resolution

[keyclone]

UNCHECK 'snap to grid'

you will also want to make sure the aspect ratio of the small regions and the big region matches

[Evilseed]

Hey there,

When you mention the aspect ratio, what do you mean?

Thanks!

[keyclone]

what is the resolution of your screen?
are you using more then one screen? in spanning mode?
once i have that, i'll be able to tell you the optimum dimensions for your regions

[Evilseed]

Hello,

I unchecked the "snap to" but it didn't change anything, the layout looks the exact same.

I have a 30" monitor with 2560x1600 resolution. The monitor is not a span, just a single 30".

Thanks!

[The IT Monkey]

silly question but,
Have you actually logged into the game past the loading screen? Are the black bars there?

[keyclone]

you need the aspect ratio of the smaller regions to match the aspect ratio of the large region.
this would mean the w/h of the small region would equal the w/h of the larger one.

doing the math:
----------
4 clones vertical on the right... this means each smaller region is 1600/4 tall... or 400
i am trying to figure out the width of the small region, w

(2560 - w) / 1600 == w / 400

now simplify: (showing all work)

400 * (2560 - w) / 1600 == w

(2560 - w) / 4 == w
2560 - w == 4w
2560 == 5w
w == 512
----------

now plugging this in:

region_00 = x,y( 0, 0 ) w,h( 2048, 1600 )
region_01 = x,y( 2048, 0 ) w,h( 512, 400 )
region_02 = x,y( 2048, 400 ) w,h( 512, 400 )
region_03 = x,y( 2048, 800 ) w,h( 512, 400 )
region_04 = x,y( 2048, 1200 ) w,h( 512, 400 )

plug those into the maximizer editor and it should work fine

post a screenshot when you are done (leave the other for comparison)

[Evilseed]

Yay much better!!!

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7053/keyclone2tb1.jpg


I've another question :)

When I hit my PiP button twice in a row, it switches between the current PiP and the newly activated PiP window, multiple times. So if I were to hit F3 a bunch of times in a row, I won't know which window I'm in. Is there a way to disallow this?

For example, lets say I have 5 windows, and each has its PiP activator as F+window, eg F1.

When playing wow and I need to switch to my #3 character, I will hit F3.

But now lets say I'm switching between characters often and I get confused as to which character I'm on. If I hit F3, I won't know which character I'm on. Why? Because I won't know if I was on the prior PiP or the F3 pip.

Is there a way to turn OFF the whole round-robin PiP thing when you hit your PiP key multiple times? It is veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery frusterating when you don't know which window you are in.

Thanks!

EDIT- Do you know if there is a way to make Vista automatically activate a window when you mouseover it? That way I don't have to click on every window at least 2 times per 1 window click.
UPDATE: Figured it out on this article: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/switch-windows-by-hovering-the-mouse-over-a-window-in-windows-vista/
Thanks again KC man!

[keyclone]

make sure you are using v1.8e

v1.8e introduced BOOBS to PiP... so no matter what screen you are in, F3 will always bring you the same wow clone


EDIT- Do you know if there is a way to make Vista automatically
activate a window when you mouseover it? That way I don't have to click
on every window at least 2 times per 1 window click. CHECK keyclone/setup/general/focus follows mouse

[Evilseed]

Hey again,

I am using your latest client. Is BOOBS (funny name!) something I need to enable?

Right now if I hit F3 over and over, it goes to my 3rd window, then my main window, then my 3rd window, main window, etc.

[keyclone]

yes... v1.8e comes with BOOBS fully installed and enabled.

and yes.. hitting F3 multiple times will toggle the windows (swaps the F3 window with the one you are on.. ie: 'bring that window here')

[The IT Monkey]

would you say BOOBS is a BIG improvement or a small one?

Which of these describes your BOOBS experience best?

(.)(.)

or

( . )( . )

or even

( 0 )( 0 )

Choose wisely.

[Evilseed]

Is there a way to make F3 only go to the window I have it targeted for?

Imagine you are fighting in PVP and, as most people do, you start button mashing. If you button mash your PiP hotkeys you're gonna be in some hurt when you start getting the wrong guys.

Is there a way we can disable the round-robin of BOOBS?

And ITM, I prefer ( . )( . )

[keyclone]

it's not a round robin, it's a swap from the target region to the one you are in.

and if i disabled it, you wouldn't be able to swap your dead main out for its replacement

[Evilseed]

Well, by round robin I mean that if you hit it multiple times, you can possibly not know where you are at.

So if I were to button mash F3, I do not know if I am on the F3 pip, or the prior one that I was on.

Is there a way to set a region as your "Main" window, and then make it so you only move the selected PiP to that window, and not do this round robining that we have now? That would GREATLY coordinate things when you are not sure what region you have maximized and you need to control a region in your "main" window ASAP.

[Evilseed]

Thanks btw KC guy!

Another question: Keyclone just crashed on me while doing PiP switching. Apparently I was doing it too fast?

Anyway, since the windows are all started from commands, when I restarted Keyclone the pip wasn't working. Would I have to close all my wow windows and restart them if Keyclone crashes in order to PiP?

Thx!

[keyclone]

yes. if keyclone dies (i haven't seen that in a very, very long time) and you are using PiP, the PiP regions will be lost. you will need to restart in order to put the wows back i their regions.

you could just 'add' them, and you could keep playing.. but PiP would be down until the restart.

i have something on the list that could address this.

[Yagamoth]

Well, by round robin I mean that if you hit it multiple times, you can possibly not know where you are at.

So if I were to button mash F3, I do not know if I am on the F3 pip, or the prior one that I was on.

Is there a way to set a region as your "Main" window, and then make it so you only move the selected PiP to that window, and not do this round robining that we have now? That would GREATLY coordinate things when you are not sure what region you have maximized and you need to control a region in your "main" window ASAP.

I know this topic is somewhat old. But since this question hasn't been answered I'd like to ask the same.

F1 --> Window 1
F2 --> Window 2
etc.

no switching back by hitting the same button multiple times.

Used the serach function but couldn't find anything more adequate than this.

[keyclone]

@Yagamoth
i'm not sure what the question is... but hitting the F1 button multiple times will only swap window1 and window2 once.

if your region1 is your main region with pip hotkey F1 and wow1 is associated with region1, whenever you hit F1 and wow1 is not in region1, then it will be brought back. a single swap from whichever region it is in with the wow currently in region1

[Gurk]

I just started using maximizer and now I see what people are complaining about. Its a little hard to explain, but I will try.

Lets say you have 5 clients and the hotkeys for them are F1-F5, and the regions are 1-5

Normally when people use maximizer they have 1 large window and the rest are smaller. In this example region1 is the largest.
(--1--)
(2345)

If I am at region1 and I hit F5 the region5 takes its place as the large window. All good so far.
(--5--)
(2341)

Now if I hit F4 too fast and client1 is still in FOCUS or the active client, client1 will take the place of what was region4. This is clearly not the desired result as now client4 is in region5 when it should be in region1.
(--5--)
(2314)

This would also happen is I was to use the mouse to say right click an NPC to get a quest on client2/region2. While client2/region2 is in FOCUS I hit F3, the following would happen.
(--1--)
(3245)

Basically the problem is the hotkeys to regions will swap them out with the region currently in focus, and if you are swapping too fast it will swap with seemingly random windows. Next thing you know you are not sure which character is in with region.

There are 2 ways to fix this I have found. Wait 2 seconds or more before hitting a region hotkey. Or set region1 in focus before you hit a hotkey. In both cases KeyClone will automatically correct the position of the clients to the correct region. In the situation where you manual set focus with the mouse and the hotkey swaps clients with that region, this isn't an error and might actually be a desired result for some people. Perhaps a "This region is the primary" check box is in order, in the setup. In the situation where swapping too fast mixes up the windows, I can't see how this would ever be the desired result and it might need to be addressed.

p.s. If you want to test this I recommend you do it at the login screen, and just change the account names to 1,2,3 etc.... You will very quickly see how they are moving around when you hit the hotkeys.

[Simulacra]

HI KC,

any comments on the above? I would also like to to be able to define one region as primary then no matter what region has focus the primary is the target. Only after reading this thread did I realise that pip swaps into the region with the focus which is ok as long as the primary is the focus, I can't think of a reason why I'd want any of the smaller screens to be the focus.

Thx

[edit] sorry for posting in a dead thread :|

[keyclone]

hmmm...

(goes off to tinker...)

[GKar]

I've been using the PIP as well in the past couple of months, and I too would like to be able to associate a button with an account.

Warrior - F1
Shaman - F2
Hunter - F3
Warlock - F4
Druid - F5

This way when I hit F1 it will always put the warrior in the main window, F2 will always put the Shaman in main window and so forth. If the Warrior is in the main window and I press F1, nothing will happen.

Thanks for all your continued support on key clone!