Finally downed Cho'gall

[Shania]

Yay we finally downed cho'gall on our mains.. sheesh it was epic MT died not too long into p2, few more time at 4% I died at 2% and only other tank, DK and rogue was alive, 1% heart racing, seemed forever, next thing achieve pops up and YAY.

Got the Tier shoulders as well, finally 4 piece woot :)

Was great, we werent going to down it way we were, so I suggested go 2 healers, use an additional dps, and it made the world of difference. Such a relief to finally down the bastard lol.

Got Alakir too around 57% on only 5 attempts so should down it after reset.

[olibri1]

Grats. Al'akir is trivial compared to Cho'gall. It's a similar level of complexity as Ascendant Council. The real hard boss for normal modes in this patch is Nef. Al'akir is basically a retard check.

[Shania]

Thank You :)

Al'akir didnt see that difficult, on the few attempts we had. People just need to move when they should from cyclones and in for the wind blasts. Nef we got too p2 and not too many attempts on it Yet, going for Alakir first then Nef. Nice to hit 10/12 at last and feel like we got a solid good skilled group of players together at last.

[zenga]

Grats on the kill. Nothing beats the feeling of slaying a boss that took blood sweat and tears to kill, after numerous wipes. And cho'gall is one of those bosses where the difference between a 4-5% wipe and a kill makes a huge difference. That said not sure if you do 10m or 25m, but all I can say is that the boss is way easier on 25m than it is on 10m, cause he is really depending a good setup. We killed him on 25m somewhere in january, still in more than half blue gear. Can't recall us having had any problems repeating the kill afterwards. In the last month we haven't really bothered killing him as we focus on hard mode progress in other instances and ppl have their shoulders anyway. Until a week or 2 ago, when we had 3 new trials who still needed the shoulders, so on night before lockout reset we went their for a quick 10m. At least that was what we were hoping for. think we spend a good 2 hours wiping on him before we had the strategy adapted from 25 to 10. I play ele shaman and I typically just move out of goo, nuke boss and switch to add when it appears. Aoe worms and switch back to nuke chogall. But on 10m, I had to dispell MC, slow adds, interrupt big add, run back and forward. Guess it comes down that in 10m one player has way more tasks than in 25m where it's more spread.

About al'akir: he is indeed confusing at first, it's all about surviving the first phase. Once that's nailed down, it's basically just dealing with the ads that spawn and make sure to use the buff as smart as possible. We ending up just gathering the adds. Last phase really depends on how well u can move as a raid. We used to save bloodlust for that phase, start at the very top, move down, move down to the bottom, move 1 up, move to the top, etc. It's basically a phase where 1 slacker can keep wiping the raid.

About nefarian: he was pretty challenging in our gear back then. Since every tank has a reliable interrupt, that saved us some trouble in P2. We used some weird strategy with a hunter and a special pet in P3, and tank him at the outer edge of the room. For 25mans we changed that tactic to tank him in the middle, and kiter uses the outer ring of the room. The tank keeps turning the boss around, melee/ranged stand stacked on the side that has no fire. Pretty straight forward.

The thing now is to make smart choices on how to progress: al'akir gives shit gear unless u are lucky. Nef drops the tier helms, which can make up the 4p T11 bonus (which is like very important for an ele shaman for example), it means that your raid gears up double as fast. Al'akir unlocks throne of the 4 winds hard mode, which is pretty challenging but again loot are off pieces.
Killing nefarian opens a few easier hard modes such as atramedes, chimaeron & maloriak. Cho'gall opens up easy halfus hc, but the others 3 are among the hardest in hc mode.

Either way, have a blast & good luck.

[Mercurio]

I get the feeling that most of the folks that post here focus on boxing, so don't have much experience in raids. I'm only 9/12 myself and haven't set foot in a (non-BH) raid in over a month. I'm having too much fun leveling up more teams and getting as many guild toons through BH as possible each week - last week we got 60 through and should hit 75 this week :)

Anyway, your accomplishment is fairly rare for folks on these boards, so congrats and we look forward to your stories of downing all Al'Akir and Nef!

[Shania]

@ Zenga, we 10 man raid. It is actually 4 of my guildies, 1 being myself and 5 from another Guild and 1 pug DK Tank who raids with his guild on his alt, and used his Tank for us, 3 days a week.

My guild was 8/12 for ages, and kicked out some idiots and havent been able too recruit for a full 10 core grp since.

But we semi merged without leaving our guilds and raid 3 nights a week with the same people.

Yeh I did some research on Al'akir and need to do some more before tomorrows raid, as I am the hunter who is assigned too killing those storm ads in p2 and I have not quite grasp the buff thing yet, I think I understand too wait until 3 ads are out then kil them off 1 at a time based on the buff thats on the boss.

Just wish we could box raids lol... Im not that good too do the amazing thing you guys do, heck I cannot even box 5, where its a tank, healer and 3 dps, so I use 4 mages and 1 priest or... in heroics 3 dps usually mages and priest and fiance on his pally tank.. some go well some do not, but its all good either way.

Thanks alot Mercurio :)

I really enjoy raiding, was ready too leave realm with just my main, as its low pop and too many stupid people, but we have a great 10 core so hopefully Heroic Halfus will fall this week.

I still havent levelled more teams, really need too /sigh

[Shania]

What should have been a Kill on Ala'kir yesterday was 3 hrs on wipe fest. Phase 3 so many times which is suppose to be a kill each time, lead too far too many 5% wipes arggggggg the headaches.

What an annoying fight, avoiding cyclones in p2 while killing ads at the exact right time for the buff all the way to phase 3 time and time and time again.

Oh well next week should have it, but really its a fight I don't enjoy much at all.

Got to down it to get onto Nefarian.

Downed Cho'gall easily again, pretty much have that on farm basically everything except Ala'kir and Nefarian.

Fun of raiding with 3 hrs of none stop wipes.

Not an encounter Im looking forward to again but got to do it QQ

[zenga]

Go for nefarian mate, then you have a series of easy heroics (well easy ... doable). We wanted to save magmaw heroic as one of the later, and got him down in less than 2 hours last night. He drops tier 372 hands. Chimaeron and maloriak and atramedes are doable as well. I'd compare the difficulty of the fights with nefarian to be honest.

[Maat]

In my opinion Atramedes heroic is one of the easiest heroics. The differance between normal and heroic atm is so little its not even funny.

There are also some addons out there that should help handling the shields (make a search for atramedes on curse), which should make the fight even more easier.

[zenga]

Shania, you ain't gonna get any more pro advice about raiding than you got from Maat!

There is a little twist to atramedes hc. If you have 1 dick in the raid who can't move out of goo, it can be frustrated as hell on 25m mode. Given that recruiting for most guilds to get a competitive roster going is really hard nowadays, you'd better off just leaving the players who can't move out of goo out and 23 or 24 man it. It's one of those fights were 1 tool can wipe the raid.

On 10m mode however you don't require any tactics at all. Just spread out around the boss and go.

[Shania]

ended at 2% on Ala'kir then we had too call it, no raids until Monday.

hey if I could make these guys do Heroic Mode I would be, I dont lead it, we are 4 my guildies, 4 or so of another and 1-2 regulars.

I have been pushing for Nefarian, think we trying it on Monday maybe, because 2 have other real life commitments.

my 4 guildies, well 3 and myself makes 4 ahaha... have been discussing xfering mains away to a better popped realm , as being 10/12 and norm is ridiculous and im out of patient just about it with idiots and others holding us back.

[Shania]

Finally killed Alakir on Mon, 9 ppl alive throughout end of p3 YAY to that.

We went off too Nefarian as nothing was left to kill, did some nuke attempts in p1 too get too p2 too make sure everyone understand lava, platforms and too see p3.

After a few goes was time for a real proper try, we all were going great, best we hit was 33% and that was death due to OT dying dealing with ads and MT and OT to close.

Pretty sure we got this on reset when we get to it.
Though 2 of our regulars were not present on Mondays attempts, still should be fine.

Feels good to making progress more swiftly and hit Heroic Modes soon at long last.

Now i need Chimeron to send me some love and give me my last epic piece my hunter braces.

[zenga]

Gratz with the kill. Nefarian is a fun fight imo. As long as everything goes smooth and you can make it to phase 3 (a what % did you hit p3 btw?) ,, it's all about dealing with the adds. Definitely on 10 man you should not really have any fire issues. What off tank class do you use and what's MT? Once you get past the last crackle at 10% it's basically a free kill. GL :)

[Shania]

umm around 72% or so we did well, we use Pally Tank On Boss and Blood DK on Ads, they are going to swap next time too see how it goes, as Blood DK felt he sucked on ads, as he put it and kept letting us down, which was semi true. It happens, tanks work well together and share roles, and swap them at times too make it fair for one another.

We would have probably gotten a kill if we were not 20 mins over time, and people had to go.

I enjoy Nef, really cannot express how much I dislike and loathe Alakir, only because Im on the ads and I really hate it... really really do.

All other bosses I do not think much of or have much issues about them except Alakir and thats purely due to ad duty.

Im trying to push them to do heroic modes, but some people do need some gear still, so I think this week if we do get Nef down Im sure we will be hitting heroics week after. As they want too clear everything ASAP as always to leave decent time left for progression bosses which you still can class Alakir as one and Nef.

We are basiclaly 2 guilds and 1 pug friend from a different guild who come together every week, 3 days a week and raid together. We all were 9/12 at the time, except the raid leader who is 8/13 heroic on His main but uses an alt in our raid.

If the majority were not as loyal, dedicated and the team effort between us all, friendly, fun, but semi serious when needed and dedicated I would have transfered off a while ago.

We are still considering to move mains for better raid progression and faster pace, just to go where at this stage is uncertain.

I enjoy Nefarian, definitely not complicated at all, if anything shit easier then cho'gall in my opinion, so it seems to me when comparing them both.

[AgentSnipps]

Grats on the progress, reading stuff like this gets my pumped to get back in the game. Just a tad over a month and half and I'll be out of this place and back in, hopefully I can break into raiding again after so long haven't killed a boss since 10 man ICC.

[Shania]

cool. where is out of this place ?

[AgentSnipps]

:( Afghanistan