alt + f and also tiem use issue

[Shania]

reading the guide http://isboxer.com/wiki/WoW:Quick_Start_Guide

An dhave decide this time i will not enable jamba auti follow as i want to learn to control my toons x4 so, sometimes the slaves follow sometimes they do not.

Issue i am having is I have gone and did Alt + F great the toons are following me.... but when i loot a corpse the screen flicks irself around and i think the main i am on is somehow trying to follow one of the slaves as it turns around facing it, and the slave facing the main.

I have tried alt + F again and this does not break the follow, so how do i break follow ?

Only way i sometimes could break it was when i went and did strobing by typing Shift+Alt+F and then again would turn it off, or at least say it is on the screen but the toons still follow me. what am i doing wrong ?



also item use... I followed a guide and created key bindings under item use, I used 1 of my G1 keys which turns it into F1 thats fine, worked well yesterday when i placed an item in the item use bar and clicked my keybind g1 they all equipped the item, however today they do not, only my main toon will, why ? How can i fix this handy feature to work again for me pls ?

[Apps]

I havent tried to run ISBoxer without Jamba. I dont fully understand why you would WANT that. You should check your ISBoxer setup. See who your "leader" is, and if you press ALT+F, does it always go to that toon? i dunno.

I think its safe to state there is something in your profile or keybinds that you have wrong.

If it were me, I would reset EVERYTHING to default, get it working as intended, then go back and re-do keybinds... testing along the way, until I find the item(s) thats screwy. (Assuming of course that ISBoxer profile is correct to begin with)

[Shania]

I am using Jamba i just am not using the auto follow option, stobing with jamba. alot of people dont use it, its annoying as hell trying to pvp and all 4 of ur toons face same way or are moving and cannot cast when you want yout main to be used like a kiter to slaves can cast etc/ Just 1 example.

[Apps]

Right, sorry I misunderstood. I also do not use Auto 3 sec strobing, when PVPing. Ok, well, I had the exact same problem as you are then. I tried to add a toon to an already created profile. I know I goofed something up.

I highly suggest, doing a fresh profile, via the wizard. Sometimes, the wizard doesnt work properly when you havent logged each toon first, then close WoW. Then run Wizard. Select the WoW account, enter your email account name, select your group, then choose the suggested options, but include the one about auto following after combat or whatever it is. (Im at work right now, so I cant see a screen shot of it).

Then save all, and export to Innerspace.

(you can start your windowed instances in any way, but I do it by creating a shortcut from the ISBoxer menu, and then just double click it.

Once everything is up, enter game each toon at a time, and double check the ADDons checkboxes.

Reset all your keybindings to WoW default.

Open Jamba, and reset it all to default too. Double check the initial profile window in jamba so that you see all your toons names, and ENSURE they are spelled correctly. You may also want to ensure that the window swaping is checked, but NOT the window swapping and promote to new leader.

Then set your Jamba follow options as you see fit.

What should happen is... when you SHIFT+CTRL+ALT+ I, you should auto invite all group members.
( ) Check
ensure your Keymap repeater is on.
( ) Check
Ensure the mouse and full repeater is off.
( ) Check

Press ALT+F once, so that your slaves are now following your leader. you can wiggle around to ensure.

Then when your leader targets a mob, he is the only one targeting him. BUT when you begin attacking, the assist me feature takes over and your slaves will target and attack also.

I highly recommend you set up your IWT keystroke after you get this all working properly.



After setting up the hotkey in the game (really, please do that first to avoid confusion), you will need to tell ISBoxer what key combination that is, and set up a hotkey in ISBoxer itself, to perform the broadcast:

In the top pane in ISBoxer, select General under Key Maps
In the bottom left pane, click on Interact with Target
In the bottom right pane, at the top, is a Hotkey option. Click the < to pick a Hotkey. It can be the same key combo you selected in the game, but I personally use Alt+J instead of just J. This allows me to type using the J without having to turn the Key Map off first
Expand Interact with Target in the left pane by clicking the +
Click on Step 1 under Interact with Target (the 1 underneath Steps)
The bottom Action in the right pane is supposed to send the Interact with Target hotkey configured in the game, to all windows. Right click on the bottom action that's there, and select Delete
Right click on Actions and, under Keystroke Actions, select New Keystroke Action
Set Target to Window:All w/ Current (as opposed to All w/o Current, which would never include the current window)
Set Key Combination to the key configured in the game for Interact with Target
After you Export again and ISBoxer reloads the configuration in the game, your new IWT key should work. Target an NPC and press the new hotkey, and your characters should all interact with it.

[katsurahama]

Apps is right. You either have something messed up in your isboxer profile or youre logging the wrong toon into the wrong wow session (although isboxer finally warns you about this in later versions).

I think the default invite command is Shift + Alt + i (it is for me and i use it every day).

Just redo the profile wizard. That should fix your problem. There is confusion about who the leader is.

[Shania]

Yep. Issue was when I would select in Jamba under follow and would select auto follow after combat, thats when the toons seem to go crazy, so I deselected it as well as, alwasy use master as the strobe target.

if either of them are enabled or both the toons seem to try and follow each other so it seems.


As for item use, I still do not know how to get it ti work again.

also once i am using my alt + f to get my toons to follow, how to I make the slaves stay stationary and stop following my main when required ?

[Apps]

Yep. Issue was when I would select in Jamba under follow and would select auto follow after combat, thats when the toons seem to go crazy, so I deselected it as well as, alwasy use master as the strobe target.




Glad you got a solution. However this ^^ means that you have a leadership problem or conflict somewhere. Either a toon isnt in the right window, or ISBoxer has a particular toon set to leader, where as Jamba is trying to use one, etc. You need to have your focus change with window swap set to "ON". otherwise what will happen, is without window swap, it thinks toon b is leader, and you are on toon a... so when combat finishes, your current window, toon a, will adjust, and do /follow to toon b.

make sense?

[Shania]

Yes it does and it was set like that previously and still is.

i am referring to in Jamba under Core team, "When focus changes, set the master to the focus" that has alwasy been ticket and is same on all the toons, so when i flick pip windows the next toon I am on is the master.

But if i select under Follow, auto follow after combat which i would like to use again but cannot because thats when the screen flicks itself around and does thatw eird thing where it seems the master at the time is trying too somehow follow one of the other toons, so i dont enable it.


But the other question is still unanswered, when I am using alt + f only...... how do i stop the slaves from following the main "without" switching pip windows too break follow ? is it possible to do so ?

So I want the main I am using at the time too leader the other 3 slaves, now there will be times when i want to use my main as a kiter, like in pvp so i can kite a person or a mov around in range and view of the slaves so they can cast while my main is kiting, BUT I dont want the slaves to move and continue following because then they cannot cast while moving, so i need to somehow sometimes on purpose break the slaves off follow from the main, and preferably not rely on the command to break focus when in combat.

[Apps]

I gotcha. Still sounds like a leadership goof up somewhere. Jamba up to date? I dunno.

As for the Anti ALT+F... I personally havent done this. I do know there is a method to it.

If I just theorize, perhaps when you get to your stop location, SHIFT+ALT+M to turn off key maps. Your slaves will just stand there. Granted, they wont fight either.

Dunno, I think im interested in this answer too. I'll go look around.

[Ualaa]

Check that all of the toons are in the same Jamba chat channel.
The default channel is something like JambaTeamIsOnline.
I like to change mine, just so there isn't the possibility of a conflict, with another boxer on the server, not that that is likely an issue with the Jamba permissions for team members.

And that the spelling of the names is exact.
If you want an exact name, and have used ascii code to generate a funky "a", like "à", naturally Jamba performs better if the toon has the same ascii "a" in Jamba as the toon is named.

[luxlunae]

I've had the random leader tries to follow someone else thing off and on for a while now. I think I'll try Ualaa's suggestion of changing the channel name (no weird characters in any of my names, so that's not my problem)

[katsurahama]

For breaking follow, if you have a programmable keyboard, you can make one key send alt+shift+r then Down then alt+shift+r again. This turns repeater on, taps the down key to break follow, then turns broadcasting off.

There are ways to do this in isboxer but i have not bothered to figure it out. My guess is that you can just copy the Others Jump (ctrl+space) mapped key and make the copy something else but have it send e, q, or s instead of the spacebar. Any of these will break follow.

All this leader confusion is the more important issue, though. You need to redo the isboxer wizard. When you log in, go to your main character. Open jamba and ensure the team members are properly listed. If not, delete them all and add their names manually. Set your leader as the master. Click the Invite button in jamba. Then click the Send settings button on the team tab. Ifnthatndoesnt work, you have messed something up on your own.

There is confusion between jamba and isboxer regarding who the leader is.

[Ualaa]

As far as breaking follow.

Have a mapped key, that executes on press or release.
Give it a hotkey.
Set the option to Hold Keystrokes while Key is Held.
Step 1 - Send down arrow or whatever... I have one that does IWT.
Step 2 - For the IWT one, send down arrow; wouldn't need anything here, for the mapped key that is Down Arrow in step 1.

Basically press the key and hold it.
And the action (IWT for me) lasts as long as you hold the key.
And once you release it, it stops doing whatever or sends a directional key which breaks the auto movement from /Follow or IWT or whatever.

[Shania]

Thats sounds like something i am after for breaking follow, Ualaa. i will give that a shot.

As for channelname, they all have the same one and yes the toons have ascii, i have tripe checked that and are all correct. however i will wipe the profile again and re do it and see how she goes.

Things are improving, no doubt just some minor things need sorting out.

Thx alot for all the helpful replies.

[Jafula]

Yes it does and it was set like that previously and still is.

i am referring to in Jamba under Core team, "When focus changes, set the master to the focus" that has alwasy been ticket and is same on all the toons, so when i flick pip windows the next toon I am on is the master.



Why do you have "When focus changes, set the master to the focus" set when you are using ISBoxer? I assume that you are using the default ISBoxer FTL settings, which already include a set master, so the setting above will really break things with ISBoxer.

However, if you are not using the default FTL setup and have made your own focus setup then please ignore what I have mentioned above.

[Ualaa]

I like to have Jamba promote the current master to party leader.

Focus is entirely managed by me.
Which is to say, not used most of the time.
But there for CC or PvP Burst.

[Shania]

Item Use
The Item use bar is a wonderful way to get your whole team to use items at the same time. Some examples of the awesomeness of the Item Bar are :


Using Quest Items. Some quests can get done blazingly fast if you use an item at the same time on everyone. There are even quests where 1 kill can get you credit up to 5 times if everyone does it at the same time.
Equipping items. If you run a team that is all the same class, you can drop a quest reward in the Item bar, use the hotkey and your whole team will find and equip it. No more searching your bags on all your toons to find a new piece of gear. If you're running the Argent Dailies or doing jousting in TotC, you can just drop your lance here and everyone will use it at the same time.
Using consumables. Got a slew of alchemists in your team? Maybe you run a gaggle of life-tap happy warlocks. You can drop pretty much any consumable, from food to potions, to bandages, even your hearthstone in the Item window to get everyone to use them at the same time.


To configure the appearance Item Bar, use this section. Once you have it set up the way you like it, open your Key Bindings {ESC > Key Bindings}. Scroll down towards the bottom and look for the Jamba-Item-Use section. Assign your keybinds for the bar on EACH team member.

To use the Item Bar, drag the item from your bag on your main toon and drop it in the proper spot on the bar. Your slaves will automatically receive this information from your main and put the item in the same place on their bars. Now all you have to do is press the hotkey you assigned and everyone uses the same item at the same time.

To remove an item from the bar, just drag it off and click off the bar. Your slaves will automatically do the same. So simple to do yet it still does not work for me, i re did the key bingings on all 4 toons and even changed the binding on all 4 too numpad2 but they do not all use the item.

I can see they all have dropped the item into the use item bar, but when I click nump2 on keypad only the master I am on will use the item.



Why do you have "When focus changes, set the master to the focus" set when you are using ISBoxer? I assume that you are using the default ISBoxer FTL settings, which already include a set master, so the setting above will really break things with ISBoxer.

However, if you are not using the default FTL setup and have made your own focus setup then please ignore what I have mentioned above.

I do not know ? I am new to this, and thought it be handy so when I change windows which I do a fair bit, that the next winodw that becomes my main screen shifts my toon I am on to be the new master for party leader reasons and so its the new master ?

AM I not suppose to have that enabled ???

[Khatovar]

So simple to do yet it still does not work for me, i re did the key bingings on all 4 toons and even changed the binding on all 4 too numpad2 but they do not all use the item.

I can see they all have dropped the item into the use item bar, but when I click nump2 on keypad only the master I am on will use the item.

Is your boxing program passing the key? When using the number pad, is numlock on? Sounds like Jamba is working perfectly.

[Ualaa]

The easiest for the item bar, is to set it so it is visible on all toons, and not just the master.

And then create a Repeater Region that goes to all toons.
As in, any can click, and the slaves all click the same as the master.

Then click whatever, and they all do it.
Change any item (drag onto or off of the bar) and they mimic the activity.

I do that for quest items, armor upgrades, food buffs, flasks, etc.




As far as Numpad goes.
You cannot use several modifier keys.
And you need to be sure NumLock is in the correct state.

You could make a mapped key for the hotkey with both NumLock on and NumLock off.
That sends the same output to the window either way.
I don't generally use the number pad for hotkeys, because of NumLock on and off.

[Shania]

Alright Ualaa, I do have the item bar visible on all toons.

Can you guide me how to make a repeater region you speak of that goes to all toons ?
The numpad was on btw.

I really would like to have the itembar work, its not complex to make it work but for some reason for me it is not working.