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shortie19
02-04-2011, 05:56 PM
Hi guys I have got isboxer and got it setup and tried it it works but my toon dosent follow proper it goes in different directions some times, as far as I have read I need to setup alot of macros and I have read a few guides on them and just get confused looking at them I would really appreciate if someone could give me some 1 to 1 help though skype or vent or somthing please.

Thanks

Shortie

Whur
02-04-2011, 06:04 PM
Have you installed the Jamba addon in your WoW addon folder?

http://wow.jafula.com/addons/jamba/

shortie19
02-04-2011, 06:09 PM
Yes I have

wakasm
02-04-2011, 07:13 PM
I'll be honest and I mean this in the most constructive way possible - part of the skillset of being a boxer is to learn how to do stuff on your own or to be able to digest all the free open information on your own. If you need 1 on 1 guidance... then boxing *may* not be for you. There are some REALLY awesome guides on here that if you go through step by step, it's more than sufficient to get you going.

That said - who knows, maybe someone on here has the time for one-on-one guidance. It's my opinion, if you haven't spent more than 10 hours on your own with ISBoxer and following guides, forums, and the wiki, then you still need to do that. This is coming from someone who only started 5 boxing less than 3 months ago - so I know for sure the guides are up-to-date, etc.

I would consider looking over the guides again and actually do every step to get a better understanding of how ISBoxer works.

For your initial issue - it sounds like you have broadcasting turned on - which is why your guys are running in different directions when you go to control one toon. In the upper left hand corner are some toggles that you can mess with to get a better understanding of what each does, but when turned on, if you press "W" to move forward, it will broadcast "W" to your other toons as well forcing them to run in whatever direction they are facing.

This is not what you want. You want only one toon to move and you want the others to /follow your main toon. That is the best starting advice I can give for now.

shortie19
02-04-2011, 07:23 PM
I just need like macros to get started like my chars wont always stay information even though I only have 1 toon it wonders off on its own it wont fight same thing as me and all I just am getting confused I have 2 24 rogues

Ualaa
02-04-2011, 07:35 PM
If you go with IS Boxer, which you had indicated in another thread...

Run the wizard.
That gets you a basic and functional interface.

Drag your spells/abilities onto "1" or "2" etc.
When you push "1".
No macros needed...
Each of the slaves will auto assist the main/active toon.
And all of them will do whatever you have on the "1" key.

Just make sure the IS Boxer addon is enabled for all toons.

I'm not sure of all the default commands.
But the quickstart guide will have the command for Follow.
And another to auto invite all members of your team.
That will get you started.

You would want to play with Repeater disabled but Keymaps enabled.
As your default state with IS Boxer.

Whur
02-04-2011, 07:36 PM
I just need like macros to get started like my chars wont always stay information even though I only have 1 toon it wonders off on its own it wont fight same thing as me and all I just am getting confused I have 2 24 rogues

What have you done so far shortie19? You've installed ISBoxer/Inner Space & Jamba, and you have run the quick wizard in ISBoxer and export the results to Inner Space, and then started the game from Inner Space?

More detail would be great. :)

shortie19
02-04-2011, 07:40 PM
Yes I have did exactly that and followed Ualaa's guide to setup isboxer

katsurahama
02-04-2011, 09:14 PM
First, here is a link to melee help from Ualaa (http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=34145)

Some basic things...

Since you have two of the same classes (and in my opinion probably THE worst for boxing), make sure their abilities are on identical buttons. EX: dont have sinister strike on '1' on toon A and '8' on toon B. Arguably identical abilities on mismatched keys is useful later but not at your level.

Make sure when you run the isboxer wizard that you check the box where it asks you if you want it to manage jamba. I think its on by default, but just check to be sure. i also check the auto follow on window switch - you can disable this any ti e in game via jamba.

Since youre boxing melee you have to set up an Interact With Target key. There are posts and guides on here aboout this. I peraonally use the / key but a better chooice might be ~ or caps lock if you dont have a keyboard with programmable keys. If you still want to box melee then you need to set up some other stuff to get it to work well. Again, there are posts about this.

When you log into the game for the first time, make sure youre logging the proper toon into the correct copy of wow. Logging B into what isboxer thinks is A's window will cause problems with jamba, especially with follow.

The first time you log in, set up jamba on what will be your leader. Set every option then go back to the first jamba tab and Push settings for all the modules. Go to the team tab and click invite. Close jamba. Switch to a slave. Move around and see if the leader follows. Switch to the master. See if the slave follows. (alt-f) is the default follow command.

Finally, choose a different class. Seriously, boxing is much easier to learn with a ranged team. I would start with warlocks. Casters let you learn isboxer and jamba in bite sized increments instead of having to figure it out all at one time with an all melee team. With casters, you follow the wizard and youre pretty much good to go. Melee is more advanced.

shortie19
02-05-2011, 06:58 AM
people say shammy or lock

Littleburst
02-05-2011, 09:54 AM
I'll be honest and I mean this in the most constructive way possible - part of the skillset of being a boxer is to learn how to do stuff on your own or to be able to digest all the free open information on your own. If you need 1 on 1 guidance... then boxing *may* not be for you. There are some REALLY awesome guides on here that if you go through step by step, it's more than sufficient to get you going.

That said - who knows, maybe someone on here has the time for one-on-one guidance. It's my opinion, if you haven't spent more than 10 hours on your own with ISBoxer and following guides, forums, and the wiki, then you still need to do that. This is coming from someone who only started 5 boxing less than 3 months ago - so I know for sure the guides are up-to-date, etc.

I would consider looking over the guides again and actually do every step to get a better understanding of how ISBoxer works.

For your initial issue - it sounds like you have broadcasting turned on - which is why your guys are running in different directions when you go to control one toon. In the upper left hand corner are some toggles that you can mess with to get a better understanding of what each does, but when turned on, if you press "W" to move forward, it will broadcast "W" to your other toons as well forcing them to run in whatever direction they are facing.

This is not what you want. You want only one toon to move and you want the others to /follow your main toon. That is the best starting advice I can give for now.

+1

Allthough I can understand that it's a pain. It took me 3 tries to finally get ISboxer running, just because I'm a noob at it. If you need help, you can also try the ISboxer chat. Where you'll find some incredibly helpfull people if you have a constructive question.

olsondw
02-05-2011, 10:35 AM
I would also suggest using google to search for post on this forum to solve specific issues, here's the link:

http://www.google.com/cse/home?cx=008057042136573243121%3A8oo5ucbwy-s

shortie19
02-05-2011, 12:01 PM
I created 2 locks its going ok so far I have had like 5 people saying CHEATER CHEATER :s have had a few problems like when I hit enter to talk it does on both and all I removed the wasd from the toon and set w on the toon to a macro that does /follow lockara /focus lockara is this the right thingI should have done its working ok like lvl 9 now played time 1 hour 26 mins

Whur
02-05-2011, 12:59 PM
I created 2 locks its going ok so far I have had like 5 people saying CHEATER CHEATER :s have had a few problems like when I hit enter to talk it does on both and all I removed the wasd from the toon and set w on the toon to a macro that does /follow lockara /focus lockara is this the right thingI should have done its working ok like lvl 9 now played time 1 hour 26 mins

You might have the repeater on, and that is why it is doing it on both toons. In the starter guide linked in this thread, it says the following:


Hotkeys created by the Quick Setup Wizard

All ISBoxer Hotkeys are, of course, configurable.
Always On
Shift+Alt+R: Toggle Keyboard and Mouse broadcasting (R for "Repeater")
Shift+Alt+M: Toggles non-control Key Maps (M for "Maps" as in Key Maps)
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+B: Toggle "Toggles" click bar on and off. The "Toggles" bar has clickable icons showing whether Repeater and/or Key Maps are on
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+F: Toggle "Formations" click bar on and off. The "Formations" bar has clickable icons for moving your team into some example formations
Non-combat
Ctrl+Space: Make others jump
The wizard also sets up some mappings that do not have Hotkeys by default:

Non-combat
Flying V Formation
Line Formation
Star Formation
Others turn Left
Others turn Right
Always On
Activate Mouse Repeat
Next window
Previous window
Combat
Example round-robin
Example ground-targeted AOE
Each Key Map (such as Always On) and Mapped Key (such as Flying V Formation) has a short description inside ISBoxer. Select a Key Map in the top pane and a Mapped Key in the bottom left pane to see the descriptions. These descriptions are for you, so please take the time to look at them.

MiRai
02-05-2011, 03:52 PM
I created 2 locks its going ok so far I have had like 5 people saying CHEATER CHEATER :s have had a few problems like when I hit enter to talk it does on both and all I removed the wasd from the toon and set w on the toon to a macro that does /follow lockara /focus lockara is this the right thingI should have done its working ok like lvl 9 now played time 1 hour 26 mins
If you use the ISBoxer wizard it automatically sets up all your follow macros for you, no need to be writing /follow and /focus
macros.

katsurahama
02-05-2011, 04:52 PM
With casters, there is nothing yiu need to change from the isboxer wizard. Invite from jamba and you should be good to go. Use alt-f to initiate follow the very first time. There is literally nothing you shuld have changed from the wizard. Dont click those button map icons in the upper left corner of the screen unless youre typing to people or logging into the game (if there are numbers in ypur id or password).

If you had to make follow macros or unbind wasd keys then you have broadcasting turned on, which is something you did yourself in game - accidentally or otherwise. Its the Right buttpn icon inthe upper left of the screen when wow is open (even at the login screen). It should not have a green arrow. If it does, click it again to turn it off. The left icon, keymaps should have the green arrow (unless you need to enter numbers in chat or passwords and then turn it back on when done).

Ughmahedhurtz
02-05-2011, 05:28 PM
Maybe you oughta start with some basics? So you understand what multiboxing is and how it works at a minimum level?

jNe1ZQbOGRE

Then once you _understand_ what is happening in that video:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=multiboxing+isboxer+setup&aq=f

shortie19
02-05-2011, 07:24 PM
If you use the ISBoxer wizard it automatically sets up all your follow macros for you, no need to be writing /follow and /focus
macros.

It didnt setup any macros :s

MiRai
02-05-2011, 07:41 PM
It didnt setup any macros :s
I guarantee the wizard generates keymaps as per the game you've selected. Inside those keymaps, there are /follow
macros. The default key is ALT+F, the Quick Start Guide (http://www.isboxer.com/wiki/WoW:Quick_Start_Guide) tells you just that and I know this has already been linked to you
before.

Baby steps man, this isn't a "press one button and instantly clear level 85 heroics" process. With ISBoxer you don't need
macros for your same class, low level characters as Lax mentioned to you the other day in the #ISBoxer channel. After
using the wizard, make sure the ISBoxer addon is enabled, place your low level abilities on the same key in game and
go from there.

shortie19
02-05-2011, 07:42 PM
ok so should I reset all my keybinding I set to default then ?

shortie19
02-05-2011, 07:45 PM
also can I keep my /invite toonname macro it just invites that char and jamba auto accepts

ghonosyph
02-05-2011, 07:51 PM
also can I keep my /invite toonname macro it just invites that char and jamba auto accepts

if you use the default keybind for invite team you wouldn't need to ask this question. <-- several people in this thread have linked you the quick start guide, there is a key specifically for inviting your other toons... yes you can just use a macro but you dont need to if you just click the button..... for reference, and because obviously you dont WANT to look at the quick start guide

Hotkeys created by the Quick Setup Wizard for WoW

All ISBoxer Hotkeys are, of course, configurable.

General

Alt+F: Follow Me (F for "Follow")
Shift+Alt+F: Toggle Jamba Follow Strobing (F for "Follow" again)
Shift+Alt+D: Dance with my target (D for "Dance")
Shift+Alt+I: Invite Others (I for "Invite")
Ctrl+Space: Make others jump


Action Bars ("FTL DPS Keys")

1 through =: Your Action Bar buttons, except with auto-assist


Control

Shift+Alt+R: Toggle Keyboard and Mouse broadcasting (R for "Repeater (http://www.isboxer.com/wiki/Repeater)")
Shift+Alt+M: Toggles non-control Key Maps (M for "Maps" as in Key Maps (http://www.isboxer.com/wiki/Key_Map))






lol this may sound sorta mean... but i think the OP needs to learn to play one toon before he steps into multiboxing >.< lololol

With that being said, www.wowwiki.com (http://www.wowwiki.com) will be a godsend for you shortie... learn how the macro commands in game work, learn the difference between keybinds and keymaps, and then, if you think you know, try again with the whole multiboxing concept. :)

no offense meant, but you've gotta have a SOLID grasp of all this stuff before you should even think about boxing

imo, there's just too much you don't understand, so even if we were to spell it out for you you'd be like "um...lolwut?" :) My advice: study the guides on the isboxer forums and study the software. Open up keymaps and click each step and actually LOOK at whats in the steps. Learn how to use macro functions, such as cast sequences and the differences between making a macro to cast a spell or dragging it to a bar and casting it with a "keybind" via a "keymap. In this way, you can understand whats happening, vs trying to just "make it work". "making it work" is easy, once you understand the concepts, however trying to make it work when you don't know what a keymap is, or how a keybind controls a keymap.... If you do plan to continue in your endeavor Good luck!!!


Im going to post this anyway, but i know it makes me seem like an asshole <3 sorry guys ! lol

MiRai
02-05-2011, 07:55 PM
also can I keep my /invite toonname macro it just invites that char and jamba auto accepts
You can do whatever you want with ISBoxer, it's super flexible. But if you read the guide you'd see that CTRL+SHIFT+I is
to invite your team.

shortie19
02-05-2011, 07:55 PM
No thats fine I just get confused a bit once I get this thing fixed with me changing the keybindings I should be fine

shortie19
02-05-2011, 07:57 PM
ok so the left one should always be grey and right one with green line?

Littleburst
02-05-2011, 08:11 PM
ok so the left one should always be grey and right one with green line?

You want key maps active and broadcast all disabled. No offense, but if you can't figure that out you really got a lot of reading to do. The very basic of boxing is that you control main and slaves follow. Broadcast all = broadcasts movement keys, which does not work properly to play with. But I think that has been said several times before.

shortie19
02-05-2011, 08:19 PM
wow I reset all the keys i changed and all and it is so much easier than I was making it out to be sorry guys

shortie19
02-05-2011, 08:41 PM
Ok everything is wroking PERFECT now except one thing collecting quests and handing it is a bit of strugle :s

Khatovar
02-06-2011, 02:47 AM
http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=28573&highlight=sharing+quests

shortie19
02-06-2011, 07:22 AM
Thanks very much