Voice controls

[Drizhal]

So while searching around Google a buddy found this

http://www.5hyphen.com/mvc/index.htm

My Voice Controller ...

Apparently as you'll find out if you read it, this is primarily for disabled people, voice command macros.

After reading into it and playing with some of the features I began to wonder, could anything about this program be construed as automation? There is a "Delay" Function where you can give it the voice commander "Repeat 5" and it will repeat the command 5 times automatically, obviously this is automation and would be disabled right away.

Was wondering if anyone had experience / opinions on this thing.

[Sam DeathWalker]

You can use a G15 in a way that will violate the TOS and use it in ways that it will not.

You can use it without the delays and repeats and it should be OK, but if you do use the delays or the repeats then you are violating the ToS.

[F9thRet]

I helped a friend awhile back set up a Voice command type thing, along with his X keys was it? Of course this was for City of X . anyways , It worked as long as we had him doing one voice command for one Key press.

Awhile back, like a year or two ago, There was a guy here who we played around with Voice commands in WoW. It was fine , except when you needed to be on vent.

But for simple things like Heal Tank, Follow, etc. It was fine.

Stephen

[3box]

When I first started multiboxing with a mixed team, this is how I used to heal with my priest. I forget the name of the program, but basically it hit keystrokes depending on which voice command I gave it. I had like 20+ keys bound for things like renew A, renew B, shield A, etc. It wasn't considered automation then, as long as it hit one key at a time.

This was back before any software was available for multiboxing. Things have changed a lot and I'm still trying to catch up. I use ISboxer and healer repeating regions now.

[Drizhal]

When I first started multiboxing with a mixed team, this is how I used to heal with my priest. I forget the name of the program, but basically it hit keystrokes depending on which voice command I gave it. I had like 20+ keys bound for things like renew A, renew B, shield A, etc. It wasn't considered automation then, as long as it hit one key at a time.

This was back before any software was available for multiboxing. Things have changed a lot and I'm still trying to catch up. I use ISboxer and healer repeating regions now.
Which is more effective in your opinion?

[Kalyse]

The current software.

Voice commands would only be useful for really obscure things that you don't want to take up room for.

Think about spamming buttons and having someone walk in the room with you screaming..


attack, attack

[Kalyse]

You can use a G15 in a way that will violate the TOS and use it in ways that it will not.

You can use it without the delays and repeats and it should be OK, but if you do use the delays or the repeats then you are violating the ToS.

Its more of an ethical thing though isn't it, since theres no way for them to know that you are adding waits into your macros. Has anyone actually ever been banned for using a G15? I don't know...

[MiRai]

Its more of an ethical thing though isn't it, since theres no way for them to know that you are adding waits into your macros. Has anyone actually ever been banned for using a G15? I don't know...
Correct.

[Daeri]

warden ?

[Kalyse]

I Googled it, people have been banned using the G15. I'm guessing WOW monitors the time in between each key press. So that when they see someone is using a string of commands which ALWAYS has 10ms wait in between them, then they are using programmable features in some way and ban.

If it was random wait between 10-50ms I doubt you would get a ban.
I think this approach is consistent though, if people use a G15 for programmable reasons to add waits, then they are automating an element of the game whcih was not intended to be automated. Although consistency from Blizzard would be nice.

[Simulacra]

I used to use voice commands for things like mounting, flying, healing. It can be quite an interesting way to play until your child comes running into the room yelling and you suddenly dismount 100feet in the air.

[Khatovar]

I always listen to music while playing. This always leads to me singing. I Can only imagine the havoc it would wreak on my team when Depeche Mode and I start rocking out. ;P

[Drizhal]

I used to use voice commands for things like mounting, flying, healing. It can be quite an interesting way to play until your child comes running into the room yelling and you suddenly dismount 100feet in the air.


Wife said something from about 15 feet away...
Mic can't understand what I say, but it understands her great from there... Havoc proceeded...
All I can say is, if you are a low speaker or for some reason computers just don't like your voice, this is endless headaches of repeating yourself....

[3box]

Which is more effective in your opinion?

I just looked it up, it's called Voice Buddy. Required a bit of setup, but it worked well. You read out loud a few paragraphs to train it to your voice. It was accurate about 90% of the time. I made macros for every voice command, so for example Heal tank would hit ctrl-[ and the corresponding macro would be:

/target tank
/cast greater heal

Same thing for shields, renews, etc times 5 for the group. Of course, you need a headset on or mic up to your face the whole time. Avoid using functions/macros on your G15, Nostromo or other hardware that presses any key more than once and you'll be fine. Macros in game are ok.

There was one problem I had with Voice Buddy. You specify which program you want it to work with, in this case WoW. But if you had multiple windows open, it had a problem picking the right one. I got around this by having my priest & VB on his own computer.

ISBoxer with repeater regions works like this. You have your party unit frames in alphabetical order in the same spot on each character screen. Then with the addon Clique on your healer, whenever your healer does a click key combo on a unit frame, it casts a spell. For example, right click on anyone in my party shields them, middle button casts greater heal. You can add ctrl, shift, alt click combos if you like.

Then you make that area where you place your unit frames a repeater region, which means anytime you click in that region, that click will repeat in another toon's window. You can make it so that click will only go to the healer's window, and since his party unit frames are in the same spot, you can do everything the priest can do spell-wise just by clicking in that window. Heal, shield, renew, you name it.

Even mass dispel, where you have to place a target circle before casting, is handled nicely by ISBoxer. It will let you turn on mouse repeating, so moving the mouse pointer moves it to the same spot in your healer's window. Same thing for aoe.

Which is more effective? Voice healing was pretty damn nice. When I was a regular raider, I used Clique back then, so I'm used to it. This whole concept with repeater regions is a natural fit for me. But ISBoxer offers much more than the software available when I used VB. Instant character switching, make other toons loot, see everything on 1 screen etc is great.

Try both, and see what you like. They both offer free trials. Although if you have 1 computer, you're better off with ISBoxer because of the caveat I mentioned earlier. And if you do decide to buy it, give Uulaa a referral. I forgot to give him one, this would make up for it.