What teams are you going to run in cata?

[Shodokan]

Well i figured i would stay out of PVE as much as i could and with some of the changes to shadow priests and the damage output they can have while moving it is absolutely rediculous as well as their self healing while doing damage is pretty damn high. A silence for dealing with ranged, a disarm for dealing with melee, a fear... fear ward... It's pretty impressive with a healer imo.

It seems Dk/Rets will nolonger work though i really really wanted to believe it was as i've been talking to some of the GM's in my guild who are friendly with some of the design staff it seems that the way they are suppose to be played is not going to be multi-box friendly.

It seems also that 4x dk + healer could be a decent comp if they are unholy or frost but that would take a bit of getting use to.

4x shaman + X is always going to work and it looks like it will be pretty decent.

Boomkins look promising but we'll have to see.

But as of right now my plans for cata are these groups.

4x shadow priest + resto healer friend
4x shaman + pallu healer friend
Warrior, DK x 2, Enhance shaman + priest healer friend
Possibly 4x dk + healer friend depending on how much damage they do.
4x locks might be interesting but i'm not sure if i'd enjoy playing it.

The changes to shadow priests for the amount of mana regen and damage makes me very interested.

[Zub]

i'll be running these:

Paladin - Tank
Druid - DPS Caster
Mage - DPS Caster
Shaman - DPS Caster
Priest - Healer

and

Warrior - Tank
Mage - DPS Caster x3
Priest - Healer

for not specific reason other than i like those classes and have they are all i have :-)

[Owltoid]

Unless it fails miserably:

PvE: 4 disc priests + druid tank
PvP: either 4 holy priests, 4 disc priests, or 5 of each

The moonkins are ready to go so if the priests fail then I may just go 5 moonkins in PvP

[Fat Tire]

I am in a raiding guild and with 10 mans giving the same loot as 25 normals, pve will be pretty damn easy for gear since I dont box PvE anymore.

I will continue boxing 2s/3s in cata- DK/double healer, double ELE/priest(mostly pally lately) healer. I also play warlock/ele in 2s is just so boxer faceroll with succubus. Been trying out Ret/enhancement in 2s and damn its fun. With all healers getting dispel in cata, well its going to be alot of fun.

I am scouting out the best place to aoe lvl in cata but I am keeping quiet on that.:p

[Meathead]

Fat Tire how high are you getting in your 2v2 with them combo's ? lol and on topic I will be using

Team 1

Warlock. DPS
Shaman. DPS
Pally. Tank
Druid. Heals
Priest. DPS

If priest fails at dps will swap with a mage.

[Fat Tire]

Fat Tire how high are you getting in your 2v2 with them combo's ? lol and on topic I will be using

Team 1

Warlock. DPS
Shaman. DPS
Pally. Tank
Druid. Heals
Priest. DPS

If priest fails at dps will swap with a mage.

Well I do pretty decent, I have 2200 weapons on my shamans pally/priest and my dk would have his but I use pve weapon atm. umm in 2s my mmr is 2100ish I think. Just started ret/enhancement so I pretty much suck, but its fun. I am doing alot of skirmishes to get my movement down and trying to figure out my CC rotation. I just target and tunnel the squishes first no need for switching.

[d0z3rr]

I only have 1 level 80 team, so I will be using my 5 paladin team.

[Shodokan]

I am in a raiding guild and with 10 mans giving the same loot as 25 normals, pve will be pretty damn easy for gear since I dont box PvE anymore.

I will continue boxing 2s/3s in cata- DK/double healer, double ELE/priest(mostly pally lately) healer. I also play warlock/ele in 2s is just so boxer faceroll with succubus. Been trying out Ret/enhancement in 2s and damn its fun. With all healers getting dispel in cata, well its going to be alot of fun.

I am scouting out the best place to aoe lvl in cata but I am keeping quiet on that.:p

Theres a quest mob that right now gives you a SHITTON of exp, and you can drop the quest and get it and re-kill. This will likely be fixed but i got from 81-83 in about 2 hours with it. It will work up to 85 but if you are realm first using this method you will likely be banned.

As for AOE grinding, for single toons especially shadow priests and warlocks there are quite a few good areas :)

[Zugdud]

My current team that I will likely use for Cata is Paladin, Mage, Lock, Priest, Shaman as 4x Caster DPS and Hpal heals with PvP being the main interest. For PvE stuff I will probably have the Paladin tanking and the priest healing.

[Coltimar]

Pally Tank x2
Holy Priest x2
Shaman x3
Warlock x2
Boomkin

[OzPhoenix]

1x Prot Paladin, 3 x Ret Paladin, 1 x Holy Paladin
1 x Prot Paladin, 4 x Ele Shaman
5 x Druid (to be made once Cata comes out)

I've yet to see anything that's led me to believe that Paladin teams won't be workable in Cata.

[Ualaa]

I've got a lot of teams, which will level for Transmutes.
I'm particularly fond of (ie, will level and play both of these):

1x Prot. Paladin.
3x Elem. Shaman.
1x Demo. Warlock.

5x Feral (Cat) Druids (PvP).
Which is also:
1x Feral (Bear) via Dual-Spec.
1x Resto, via Dual-Spec.
3x Boomkin, via Dual-Spec.
Unless the Druids are seriously weaker then expected, this will likely be my primary team.

Also have, and will definitely level to 85th:
1x Disc. Priest.
1x Frost Mage.
1x Boomkin Druid (dual-spec Feral, if I need a tank).
2x Elem. Shaman.
Possibly trade (back) one of the Shammies for the Warlock, if the earlier team needs a dedicated healer.



The other teams are primarily for Transmutes... they'll level to whatever the new minimum is, but likely not a whole lot further unless leveling is a lot easier or I get bored.

I could see the 4x Warlock and 1x Priest (Disc) on the horde side leveling up to 85th at some point, but they will not be the first three teams to do so.

All of the aforementioned toons have Epic/Cold flying, or in the case of the Hordies, have transfered and sold enough cut gems to buy Epic/Cold flying.

[Shodokan]

I've got a lot of teams, which will level for Transmutes.
I'm particularly fond of (ie, will level and play both of these):

1x Prot. Paladin.
3x Elem. Shaman.
1x Demo. Warlock.

5x Feral (Cat) Druids (PvP).
Which is also:
1x Feral (Bear) via Dual-Spec.
1x Resto, via Dual-Spec.
3x Boomkin, via Dual-Spec.
Unless the Druids are seriously weaker then expected, this will likely be my primary team.

Also have, and will definitely level to 85th:
1x Disc. Priest.
1x Frost Mage.
1x Boomkin Druid (dual-spec Feral, if I need a tank).
2x Elem. Shaman.
Possibly trade (back) one of the Shammies for the Warlock, if the earlier team needs a dedicated healer.



The other teams are primarily for Transmutes... they'll level to whatever the new minimum is, but likely not a whole lot further unless leveling is a lot easier or I get bored.

I could see the 4x Warlock and 1x Priest (Disc) on the horde side leveling up to 85th at some point, but they will not be the first three teams to do so.

All of the aforementioned toons have Epic/Cold flying, or in the case of the Hordies, have transfered and sold enough cut gems to buy Epic/Cold flying.

75 is the minimum

[jinkobi]

I'll be running my usual Pally tank and 4 Druids at the beginning to see how things work out. The lack of crowd control in my team has me conscerned so I have a mage+rogue that I can substitute for 2 of my druids just in case.

[Fat Tire]

My current team that I will likely use for Cata is Paladin, Mage, Lock, Priest, Shaman as 4x Caster DPS and Hpal heals with PvP being the main interest. For PvE stuff I will probably have the Paladin tanking and the priest healing.



Disc Priest / Disc Priest / Aff Warlock / Resto Shaman / Holy Paladin

Would probably be the greatest 5 boxer all caster team. You would never die and you could oom any one you want very quickly (I am theorycrafting here as I have no experience in 5s with this team). You could dual spec for heroics also.

This comp would be amazing in rated bgs. Hopefully there are some that will understand why.

In an experiment I ran double healer last night to 1800 and went 50-13 Disc priest/resto shaman. I lol'd the whole time. I had around 12 teams where people just left either at the start or after about 10 mins. I had 2 games that went the full duration and had 1 guy log onto my server to tell me how horribad I am. :D

[DLoweinc]

Disc Priest / Disc Priest / Aff Warlock / Resto Shaman / Holy Paladin

Would probably be the greatest 5 boxer all caster team. You would never die and you could oom any one you want very quickly. You could dual spec for heroics also.

This comp would be amazing in rated bgs. Hopefully there are some that will understand why.

In an experiment I ran double healer last night to 1800 and went 50-13 Disc priest/resto shaman. I lol'd the whole time. I had around 12 teams where people just left either at the start or after about 10 mins. I had 2 games that went the full duration and had 1 guy log onto my server to tell me how horribad I am. :D

This made me lol

[Fat Tire]

This made me lol

Which part? There are several possible places that could get a lol.

LOL- is this post a joke
LOL- That team is a joke and would never work
LOL-That I played 2s double healer lol

[DLoweinc]

Which part? There are several possible places that could get a lol.

LOL- is this post a joke
LOL- That team is a joke and would never work
LOL-That I played 2s double healer lol

LOL - I would leave after a short while against that team too.

and LOL @ them logging into your server to whisper you

[Fat Tire]

LOL - I would leave after a short while against that team too.

and LOL @ them logging into your server to whisper you

oh

yea while calling me names he also wanted to know how I stayed so close to my partner the whole game. :cool:

[ghonosyph]

ROFL tire !

I plan on leveling my 5 pallys, my 3 dk feral druid and probably a tauren priest from lvl 1 up(this team is affectionately called MoocrewA thru D atm, as they're all tauren)

I also plan to level my other four druids at lvl 42 ish right now, then 5 goblin priests, and probably because i dont really have a shaman team yet 5 goblin shamans lol

I'm on a pvp server and while i don't really pvp all that much i'm probably going to start rated bgs with my druids. Lol starfall is still incredibly strong, and feral got some love too.

[Multibocks]

That was awesome Tire!

[jinkobi]

oh

yea while calling me names he also wanted to know how I stayed so close to my partner the whole game. :cool:

Lol, nice.

You know why they have a bicycle on Fat Tire right? Representing the bicycle the company would give employees after one year of service back in the 1900's.

Read it in a magazine the other day, lol. Just thought I'd share :D

[Fat Tire]

Lol, nice.

You know why they have a bicycle on Fat Tire right? Representing the bicycle the company would give employees after one year of service back in the 1900's.

Read it in a magazine the other day, lol. Just thought I'd share :D

I did not know that, interesting.

I see youre in texas, speaking of beer when I was at Ft. Hood we would all drink the local beer Shiner Bock- that is great beer too and I still drink that on occasion.

[Boylston]

I'm still undecided, and I haven't played beta or anything to help solve the dilemma.

I have 4xShamans as a possibility, with any tank as a main.
I have a DK+4xRet team that I love for BGs, but it sounds like this comp is totally different in Cataclysm.
I'm levelling a 5xDruid setup, which I like in BGs for stealth plus ranged moonkin fun.

Sounds like instance running in Cata for leveling purposes will be significantly harder than any prior expansion, unfortunately. Good news is that PvP gearing should be much easier since it can be done almost exclusively through BGs.

I'm leaning towards playing the 5x Druids for flexibility's sake, and using the lead druid as my raiding main as well. Stealth plus ranged DPS is still pretty nice, and the boomkins are getting some fun new toys as well!

[Umbaalo]

Was originally wanting to start a 5x tauren pally group, all ret or one prot and 4 ret. But with the coming changes in cataclysm, I might have to drop a ret for a mage and make another pally holy. Haven't decided on a pvp team yet.
Just not thrilled to feeling like I'm being forced to roll with a ranged/caster heavy group to make dungeons viable. The more feedback I read from beta, the more disheartened I feel.

[Zub]

Just not thrilled to feeling like I'm being forced to roll with a ranged/caster heavy group to make dungeons viable. The more feedback I read from beta, the more disheartened I feel.
is this for cc you mean?
a group of rets can keep a mob or 2 out of action for a bit. Maybe a rogue for some saps? if you want to stay all melee that is.

[Slats]

Paladin + 3 Ele + 1 Resto

Really love the look of Balance in this expansion though so I am probably going to create 5 Troll Druids also. :)

[ZooljinX]

I cant decide between 4spriests and a healer(shaman or druid.. maby a disc dunno) or 4 loxx and a healer, ooor! my good old shaman team but i think ill wait with those even tho they look very promising!

[Khatovar]

Just not thrilled to feeling like I'm being forced to roll with a ranged/caster heavy group to make dungeons viable. The more feedback I read from beta, the more disheartened I feel.

I've yet to feel like I'm obligated to run any ranged based off beta information. I will still run ProtPally, RetPally, EnhShammy, RestoShammy and my husband's DK will replace my hunter if he wants to run with me. And I'm iffy on the hunter, I might make that a full-time DK slot. Or perhaps a warrior.

[Slats]

Reading alot of posts everyone is excited about Shadowpriests. On paper they have always looked great but in practice have always had range or horrid mana issues.

What has changed in beta all of a sudden that makes them so amazing?

I played 4 Shadowpriests and a Paladin all through TBC so I still have mine kicking around somewhere. :)

[Umbaalo]

Hmm, wonder if 4 shadowpriests and a prot pally would work for dungeons. Still holding out hope for the 5x pally team though. If shadowpriests can kick out enough passive healing for the tank, I might give them a shot. Then again, blizz still has a lot of work to do on pallies... Maybe they will boost divine storm healing back to about where it is now.
I think in another month or two we will all know for sure what kind of teams will and won't work for pve and pvp. I just wish blizz had a better way of going about "trying to reinvent the wheel".

[ZooljinX]

my concern(adn the reason why im not concidering my pallies atm) is the change towards a more procbased system, i just hate to manage procs.. but as you say, we will see when we get more info close to release, and i do belive 4 priests and a prot would do really good(fingers crossed;))!

[heyaz]

I'm not quite sure what I'll do if I come back for Cataclysm. I have 4x shaman, 4x paladin, DK, and priest on my accounts. I think shaman will probably work pretty well again, so that's an option if there's enough changes to make it interesting again (I burned out on that team about 9 months ago). If melee works again, I'd love to see what the paladins can do, maybe sub in a warrior or enh shaman which I have waiting at 80.

Really want to try another all caster team though. Have always wanted to try druids or mages... or revisit locks/priest which is what I played at 70. I don't really do gimmick teams anymore though... I need to at least be able to do heroics with a tank and tear up BGs - arenas I'm not as concerned about anymore. They're kind of played out, I always enjoyed BGs more and the dynamics of arena really limited you to about 2 or 3 viable comps max... some really fun comps in BGs (lock teams, boomkins, etc.) were just worthless in arena.

[Fat Tire]

I'm not quite sure what I'll do if I come back for Cataclysm. I have 4x shaman, 4x paladin, DK, and priest on my accounts. I think shaman will probably work pretty well again, so that's an option if there's enough changes to make it interesting again (I burned out on that team about 9 months ago). If melee works again, I'd love to see what the paladins can do, maybe sub in a warrior or enh shaman which I have waiting at 80.

Really want to try another all caster team though. Have always wanted to try druids or mages... or revisit locks/priest which is what I played at 70. I don't really do gimmick teams anymore though... I need to at least be able to do heroics with a tank and tear up BGs - arenas I'm not as concerned about anymore. They're kind of played out, I always enjoyed BGs more and the dynamics of arena really limited you to about 2 or 3 viable comps max... some really fun comps in BGs (lock teams, boomkins, etc.) were just worthless in arena.

Good post, I figured you and asomine were taking a break or quit the game completely. I remember you playing your Zs while everyone was playing the standard sham teams during BC. I look forward to your posts in cata.

I just tried a BG experiment for the past 4 nights. I was playing 2 ele/1 boomkin. I also switched up the boomkin one night to resto. The thing I hated about playing anything with shamans was that they couldnt insta GW so I always had to mount up and this meant I couldnt carry the flag in wsg, however as everyone knows the druids can insta cat and run at the same speed. It worked surprisingly well. Obliviously, its not a great 3s/arena team(gimmick, if that), but its a great BG team. I am not a pve boxing guy, but you could add druids to the team for heroics or a bigger pvp team. Its something I am thinking about honestly. I love starfall and it was pretty easy to protect it with the shamans so I got the full duration without it being being canceled adding in the fact that they can help heal and best CC is a major bonus. One thing I really love about cyclone is you dont have to face your target to cast it and it can be cast in moonkin form.

There is only 1 BG where killing matters and that is killing the enemy FC in WSG if there is one. In all the other BGs you dont have to kill a single person to win the game, you could conceivably win the game without killing anyone. Something to think about when making BG teams. Where tatics and surviablity becomes more inportant than dmg. I wish blizzard kept stats of BGs- I believe the more druids(esp druid healers) you have on your wsg team the better chance of winning and the more rogues you have in AB the better chance of winning. This is given if its a pug, if there is a 2s team playing in a BG like war/healer for example they can pretty much dominate and carry the BG because most players suck.

Lets not forget the absolute best class for BGs, the class the has dominated since the beginning and still holds the #1 title where 1 amazing player can carry a BG(non AV) by him or herself..........The Hunter.

[Boylston]

I keep feeling drawn to my druids because of the fact that they're the most flexible class in the game. It's true solo and it's definitely true while multiboxing PvE or PvP.

I suspect shamans will continue to be strong, but I like the stealth aspect of druids in BGs. I wish they had better buff stacking, but one can't have everything!

[alcattle]

Lets not forget the absolute best class for BGs, the class the has dominated since the beginning and still holds the #1 title where 1 amazing player can carry a BG(non AV) by him or herself..........The Hunter.
I think druids own WSG at low levels. I used to twink 19 and there were horde bear/healer combos that owned everything. Hunters did waste the rest of the horde as their burst was just too good. 3 Hunters on defense .... were almost as good as the bear, alot of long matches before they changed WSG

[The Rupt Brothers]

Only today did I find the energy to read about the changes in classes for Cata and like so many here I also feel that the druids and spriests get the most out of it.

I am leaning towards a feral team as the cats might get mangle buffed. Also recalled the druid guild some years ago in our BG who did WSG with 10 bears and they pawned. Might see how that works for AoE leveling (the AoE bleed seems nice).

I find the problem with spriests tend to lean on them being like paper. Use to druid + 4x ele and they could handle a few hits atleast. Then again the insta sp dd spell might get me to level a team of sp's.

Shammies, as said here earlier, will prolly be a safe bet. :D

My concern for Cata fights is that they will increase AoE dmg and movement for PvE. I would love to hear from a Beta tester more of these kind of changes to the game. The fact that the "healing game" is being changed towards pre TBC style is a concern for me. Overhealing is just meh!

Sorry if this didn't make any sense but it's 1.30am.

[Owltoid]

Sorry, Rupt, but my impressions are different.

I feel like AoE is being reduced.
Healing is not getting more powerful because mana is supposed to be scarce.

[Vicker]

Gnome warrior + gnome priest

I toyed with the idea of doing gnome warrior, gnome priest, gnome mage, and gnome lock, seeing as I have 80s of all of these, but I don't think I can afford to pay for four accounts with my measly grad student income.

[The Rupt Brothers]

Sorry, Rupt, but my impressions are different.

I feel like AoE is being reduced.
Healing is not getting more powerful because mana is supposed to be scarce.

My bad, ment to say that pre TBC and from what I understood the mana will be an issue for healers thus eliminating mind blowing overheals (which I now love to do :D ).

The Blackrock Caverns atleast has some AoE and kiting. :/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eff6O6YVkJg

[Fat Tire]

Healing is not getting more powerful because mana is supposed to be scarce.



You can look at it like this- same heals as today but healing a much larger hit point pool.

I wouldn't call mana scarce.

[Owltoid]

You can look at it like this- same heals as today but healing a much larger hit point pool.

I wouldn't call mana scarce.

I thought that's pretty much how the developers described it. They don't want healers to have unlimited mana pools and be forced to make choices between types of heals. Maybe it's just semantics, but I think they're making mana more of a limited resource.

[confusedtx5]

I was going to go with protadin, disc, ele, boomy and mage (prob fire).
More recently i was thinking of protadin, restosham, boomy, fire mage, destro lock.
and just today im considering swapping the protadin for a bear, and maybe drop the boomy for ele or spriest

[muffe]

4x warriors

[Toned]

Im interested to see what the community comes up with for decent macros for multi-class teams since the nerf of empty spaces being skipped.

[Slats]

Yeah I think that one went over most peoples heads. I know I've already sorted out my replacement for /click. I'd worked it out long ago but was just lazy implementing it.

Virtual Keymaps are awesome if you'd 'like a hint. :)

[Knytestorme]

5 x Worgen Druid
Dwarven Paladin + 4 Dwarven Shaman
Goblin War, Priest, 3 x Warlock (maybe shaman instead but don't think so)

[Zub]

i'm curious how many people will start from scratch to get a worgen/goblin team.
I doubt the paid transfers to those races will be available any time soon.

[Knytestorme]

the 2 teams I listed there will be from scratch.

Having said that, there is now distinct achievments for first goblin/worgen to 85 having done their starting zones as well as for just first goblin/worgen to 85 so it's possible transfer will be available right away.

[Mosg2]

Yeah, I saw that Knytestorme. I'm pretty sure transfers will be immediately available--It's all about the green dollar dollar bill'yall anyways.

[Toned]

i'm curious how many people will start from scratch to get a worgen/goblin team.
I doubt the paid transfers to those races will be available any time soon.
Im debating when faction changes open either dwarves (faction change) or just going Goblin~

[Toned]

Yeah I think that one went over most peoples heads. I know I've already sorted out my replacement for /click. I'd worked it out long ago but was just lazy implementing it.

Virtual Keymaps are awesome if you'd 'like a hint. :)

Not saying I don't know how to do it was curious what other people would come up with :) Isboxer ftw.

My virtual keymap method does +/-100 dps of the current click macro on live. I'm testing these on the lvl 80 target dummy with 1 chain lightning jump to the heroic training dummy. With both methods I am sustaining over 7500 DPS (without any Racial/Trinket/EM/ Thunderstorm usage) going from 100% mana to 0% mana.

Working in earth shock shouldn't be too bad. The randomness of lava surge im not too worried about I probably won't spec into it anyways for multi-boxing ><

[Altsoba]

I have a few teams:

Protection Paladin
4* Elemental Shaman

Protection Warrior
3* Warlock
Disc/Holy Priest

Blood DK
3 Ret Paladins
Restoration Shaman

Then I have this group missing either tank or healer:

Druid (Tank/Healer)
Warlock
Hunter
Mage

(maybe will slowly level them with a tank or healer friend)

And A Rogue...

These are my lvl 80s and I am of course taking into account which acc they're in and really don't want to spend money with transfers to optimize it.
I think I'll level them in this order.

Another thing I've been thinking of is not starting leveling them as soon as Cata hits (as I always did and rush first team to level cap). As usual I think they'll remove rest status, so I'll probably wait 15 days for them to get full rested. In the meanwhile, either I level up my tank or healer for that incomplete team or I'll just fly around with my herb/miner paladin and farm a lot and (hopefully) make a lot of money.

What'll be your strategy?

Cheers,
Altsoba aka a lot other nicks ;)

[Toned]

Get my shamans to 85 first for raiding and arenas. Then level the others if I have time.

I have 4 sham + pal.
a mixed caster group. Boonkin/Destro/Arcane Mage/HolyPriest/War.
a mixed melee group Ret/DK/Enh/FeralDruid/Priest
Then a Rogue/Hunter that gets worked in wherever.

[offive]

Probably most classes in several teams... Main team will more then likely remain my pally/sham team. The ret pally team might not be so hot anymore, as the healing seems to have gotten a bit nerf'd. For general mayhem my NE hunter team (BM spec on all but one) with camo and shadowmeld will be very funny in Tol Barad ;)