Adv Healing w/ISBoxer + Repeater Regions + HealBot

[Tehmuffinman]

THE GOAL

...to be able to setup repeater regions with automatically "held down" modifiers passed through with my clicks to ease the use of HealBot (or any other similar addon), with the additional requirement of making repeater regions easier to see (you will see why this is semi-important).

I wanted my setup to have 3 repeater regions. The 1st with no modifier, the 2nd with "SHIFT" and the 3rd with "CTRL". This would allow me to mouse over each of the regions and just "click" without actually holding down any of the modifier keys (or keys I mapped to them) on my keyboard. As far as changing the look of the repeater regions, just a nice solid border of some kind would be fine for me.

Here is the "end result" ingame:
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9572/rr5x.th.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/rr5x.jpg/)

DISCLAIMER: I am operation under the assumption that you know how to setup HealBot in-game and how to sort the column to your liking (which is required to make this effective).

CREDIT: Props to Poyzon for being my cohort in figuring this stuff out and coming up with the original idea, and to Lax for pointing me in the right direction for the XML.

THE HOW TO



Setting up ISBoxer Modifier Keymaps

Open ISBoxer and expand "Key Maps" in the top panel
Click on "General" under "Key Maps" in the top panel
In the bottom left panel, right click on "Mapped Keys" and select "New Mapped Key" (I named my 1st one "Shift")
In the bottom left panel, leave the Hotkey empty, and select "On" from the "Holy any Keystroke Actions" dropdown box.
Expand the "Steps" under your new Mapped Key and click on "1".
In the bottom right panel, right-click on Actions and click on "Keystroke Actions -> New Keystroke Action"
Change the "Target" to one of your preference. I use "Window All w/o Current" for the time being because I am leveling a Pally + 4 Shaman and I like them all to cast heals. You may want to limit it to a specific character if you box with a dedicated healer.
Set the "Key Combination" to just "Shift".
I normally left-click back on "Actions" so the text of my action will auto-update and I can be sure I did it right.
Repeat the above steps for a 2nd "Mapped Key" but call this one "Ctrl" and set the "Key Combination" to just "Ctrl".
You should now have 2 new "Mapped Keys" under "General" that look similar to this:
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7193/mappedkey1.th.jpg (http://img80.imageshack.us/i/mappedkey1.jpg/)

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1682/mappedkey2.th.jpg (http://img707.imageshack.us/i/mappedkey2.jpg/)


Changing the Look of Repeater Regions (Advanced Users Only - BACKUP ALL FILES)

This process will require editing the {ISBoxer Install Path}\InnerSpace\Scripts\isboxerui.xml file. On Windows 7 being able to make/save changes to this file required me to "Take Ownership" of the file. I assume this requirement would hold true for Vista as well. I am not sure if there would be any problem in XP.

To add a "Take Ownership" command to your right-click file context menu in Windows 7 or Vista go here (http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/add-take-ownership-to-explorer-right-click-menu-in-vista/).

Also be sure all of your WoWs are closed during this process.
Open up the above mentioned file in your favorite text editor (Notepad works fine)
Fine the "frame block" that starts with "<frame name='isboxerrepeaterregion'>" (around line 354)
Inside this block change the value of <Border>0</Border> to <Border>1</Border>
The value of the <BackgroundColor></BackgroundColor> has 8 characters, the 1st 2 correspond to the "Alpha" (transparency) of the background of repeater regions and the last 6 correspond to the RGB color. Since my goal is to have a border, a background was not needed. I changed the value of mine from <BackgroundColor>33333333</BackgroundColor>to <BackgroundColor>00333333</BackgroundColor>.
After the above modified "BackgroundColor" line, add a new line. On this line put <BorderColor>55FFFFFF</BorderColor>. This will create a semi-transparent white border. As with the above setting, the 55 is the level of transparency (up to FF, which is solid) and the "FFFFFF" is the RBG hex value for white. Feel free to change your alpha levels and color as needed, these worked fine for me.
You should now have these lines the above mentioned block:

<Border>1</Border>
<BackgroundColor>00333333</BackgroundColor>
<BorderColor>55FFFFFF</BorderColor>
Before you go on to the next step, save and close this file. Then in ISBoxer (making sure ALL of your WoWs are closed) to a File -> Save and a File -> Export All to InnerSpace. Then via your preferred method startup your Character Set that you want the new repeater regions for.


Setting Up Repeater Regions in WoW and linking them to our newly Mapped Keys.

Once logged into WoW and your team is invited so they are showing up in HealBot, open up your ISBoxer Control Panel via your keybind (mine is Ctrl + Shift + Alt + G)
In the "Control Panel" click on "repeater regions".
As I mentioned above, my goal is to make all 4 of my Shaman cast heals, so in the "Target" dropdown box I select "all other".

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3317/rr1b.th.jpg (http://img534.imageshack.us/i/rr1b.jpg/)
Leave the rest of the stuff alone and click "Add".
This will create a movable reddish box with a blue title bar that you can movie around.
Position and size this box (which will correspond to our "no modifier" clicks in HealBot) over the left 1/3rd of your HealBot UI.
Back in the "Control Panel" select "all other" once again from the "Target" drop down box.
Select "General" from the 1st dropdown box under "Mapped Key on enter/exit".
Select "Shift" from the 2nd dropdown box under "Mapped Key on enter/exit".

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/1867/rr2s.th.jpg (http://img708.imageshack.us/i/rr2s.jpg/)
Leave the rest of the stuff alone and click "Add".
Position and size this box over the middle 1/3rd of your HealBot UI. Clicks in this box will be sent to all slave windows with the automatic modifier of "Shift".

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7109/rr3h.th.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/rr3h.jpg/)
Repeater the previous steps for "Shift" with the "Ctrl" Mapped Key and position and size this box over the right 1/3rd of your HealBot UI.

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/7586/rr4e.th.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/rr4e.jpg/)
Hit your "Control Panel" keybind again to hide it.
Your should now be good to go!

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9572/rr5x.th.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/rr5x.jpg/)

[Tehmuffinman]

reserved

[Poyzon]

I'm a bit biased, but I love this method compared to other software I've used in the past. I use this with my mixed team (paladin, priest, mage, shaman, warlock). Here's how I have each configured.



| Region1 (nomod) | Region2 (Shift) | Region3 (Ctrl)
--------+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------------
Left | Flash Heal | Renew | Greater Heal
--------+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------------
Middle | Prayer of Mending | Binding Heal | Power Word: Shield
--------+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------------
Right | Circle of Healing | Prayer of Healing | Abolish Disease
| | | Remove Curse
| | | Cure Toxins
--------+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------------
Button4 | Guardian Spirit | | Dispel Magic
--------+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------------
Button5 | Water Walking | Fear Ward | Detect Invisibility
| Unending Breath | |
--------+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------------

[Mercurio]

That is a very nice addition to our little community. At first I wasn't sure how what you were going to do with the three regions (set up three different team windows? Ugh), but the philosophy of having each cover only 1/3 of your team window looks very cool, even if you don't take the extra steps of messing in ISBoxer files to make them visible.

Having only used ISBoxer and repeater regions for a few weeks, I'm still just loving the basic functionality, and I can't imagine having fifteen different types of heal-related spells (five mouse buttons times 3 regions) for each toon. However, maybe I'll baby my way into it by only using two windows, not three. I love that this is very flexible for whatever you want to do with it.

The one issue I see is that since I 10-box, I will have to cover 10 toons (not just five) with these windows. This means doubling the number of repeater regions if I keep my side-by-sdie team setup (in your example, 3 repeater regions for toons 1-5 and three more for toons 6-10):
1 6
2 7
3 8
4 9
5 10

Or I could use extra long repeater regions and set up my teams in one vertical column:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
The vertical column thing would require lots of mouse movement distance if toon 1 got damaged, then toon 10, so I think the multiple repeater regions per team setup above might be better.

At any rate, these are all just details of how to best implement a great idea you have put forward - thanks a lot for posting about it! :)

[Tehmuffinman]

No Prob Mercurio! I am glad a harcore boxer such as yourself thinks it it is such a good idea. =)

[Akoko]

Very creative use of regions. I never thought of that. Looks like it takes up a lot of space, however. Is there any way to permanently disable blizzard's default party interface even when not in a raid?

[Tehmuffinman]

Very creative use of regions. I never thought of that. Looks like it takes up a lot of space, however. Is there any way to permanently disable blizzard's default party interface even when not in a raid?

Ya I believe some addons can do that.

And it can take up as much space or as little as you want, just size HealBot accordingly. Mine in practice isn't this big... I just did it for the purpose of good screenshots. =)

[Poyzon]

You could try this to hide your party frames (not sure how that will react with other addons creating/hiding unitframes).
/script HidePartyFrame();

Ultimately, if you have another addon that adds click behaviors to unit frames (ie. Clique, Vuhdo), you could apply this same technique. Healbot just happens to have it's own unique frameset.

If the unit frames are in a uniform vertical/horizontal, it's pretty straightforward (your repeater regions will overlay all of the unit frames). If you have a grid layout, you'll have to create repeater regions for each row/column. Here's an example of a 2x5 grid with repeater overlays to illustrate what I'm talking about.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8641/gridrepeaterregion.png

[Ualaa]

I've seen people cover a portion of the frame, with a repeater region.
So if you click the left half, it is the current toon (pally for example) who will cleanse the target.
But the right half of the frame is broadcast, via repeater, for heals or whatever.

Have also seen the combination of Grid + Vuhdo frames on a single UI.
With a repeater region over both, one for heals and another for dispels.

Definitely a neat idea.
And will have some potential, for sure.
Plus its easier to left click, then to click + mod key.
The trade off is extra screen real estate taken up.

[Jafula]

Tehmuffinman

Thank you so much for posting this. I've just set this up following your instructions (been meaning to do it for a while), and its awesome (Healbot is a great addon). I love the border on the repeater regions. Wicked!

(http://www.dual-boxing.com/member.php?u=31528)

[Tehmuffinman]

Tehmuffinman

Thank you so much for posting this. I've just set this up following your instructions (been meaning to do it for a while), and its awesome (Healbot is a great addon). I love the border on the repeater regions. Wicked!

(http://www.dual-boxing.com/member.php?u=31528)

Np man! Poyzon and I have discovered that it can be a little buggy if you have a high spam rate for your action keys... were working the kinks out.

Thank YOU for your great addon!

[Owltoid]

Spent soooo much time trying to get this to work, but it's failing. Hopefully the community can help out.

The system here uses Vuhdo or something to take the click and cast a heal. However, it would be a better system if it worked for any unit frame, including enemy unit frames. If we can get this to work, then ISBoxer should be able to take care of it.

Can anyone figure out how to use a repeater region to pass a modifier plus a Do Key Map action?

Here's an example. My 'MouseOver Heal' macro looks like the following:

/cast [nomod:shift, target=mouseover]Nourish
/cast [mod:shift, target=mouseover]Regrowth

Using your system, can you get this to work without Healbot/Vuhdo/etc?

Before everyone starts saying who cares, imagine if you could click on the enemy unit frames with a right click and have a round robin silence? If we can get this system to work, there is so much more functionality available to us than there is using Vuhdo/Healbot/etc.

[Jafula]

So, the problem I'm having with this system is that while I'm bashing my main FTL assist attack button, my priest is getting alt, shift and control sent to its window. So when I try and pass a click via the region with either alt, control or shift to healbot, healbot gets confused because of the additional FTL modifiers.

My options are a) drop FTL or b) try and rework with invisible click map thingys.

I'm going to try b sometime soon.

[Tehmuffinman]

So, the problem I'm having with this system is that while I'm bashing my main FTL assist attack button, my priest is getting alt, shift and control sent to its window. So when I try and pass a click via the region with either alt, control or shift to healbot, healbot gets confused because of the additional FTL modifiers.

My options are a) drop FTL or b) try and rework with invisible click map thingys.

I'm going to try b sometime soon.


I had to make a few changes to the way I did stuff...

1) Slow down my spam rate for my DPS keys (adjust the commas in my macros)
2) Make sure my mouse is OUSIDE the RR when not healing
3) Time it (due to the slowed spamming) so that my clicks for heals are in between my DPS keypresses

[Lax]

If you're having trouble because of FTL modifiers etc, here is an alternative method of implementing essentially the same thing with a Click Bar instead. Using a Click Bar is going to give you some added flexibility as well (with the exception that it only works when doing left/right clicks plus modifiers :( )

The key to making it work with a Click Bar is the underlying Mapped Keys. For my proof of concept that I just did to make sure this works before suggesting it, I made one Mapped Key that's going to send mouse3 (middle button) when I left click. I arbitrarily called it "press mouse3". It has no hotkey, 1 Step, and no special options. Step 1 has 2 actions. The first action is a Sync Cursor Action with target being "Group (others in):healers" (whatever you were using as the target for your Repeater regions). The second action is a Keystroke Action sending Mouse3 to "Group (all of):healers". The targets I picked mean that the cursor will always sync on any healer I'm not playing at the time, and Mouse3 will go to all healers even if I'm playing one.

Then my Click Bar for this test has a single button on it, with one action on it (press mouse3) for Left Click and target=self (this target is effectively who hits the hotkey for the mapped key, and since the mapped key has the real targets built in, we want the current window to hit the hotkey, not all windows and not all healers). To get the same appearance as shown in this thread, I set the Color for the button (click on the box next to Color, to the right of Name) to 00000000. By default it's FF000000 with the Alpha channel set to 255, which is opaque black. This changes it to completely transparent. And it's going to have a white border by default.

I set the Cell size to be large enough to cover the desired portion of the healing addon. This is less convenient than resizing a repeater region, but a little bit of trial and error gets it done right.

Assign the Click Bar to the character set, position it in game, and voila. Repeaterless healing with the same capabilities as described in this thread without having potential problems from alt,ctrl, or shift being permanently held down while in the region.

Enjoy :)

p.s. Owltoid, this should get you what you're looking for

[Lax]

I take back the part about only working for the 2 mouse buttons. It's possible to work around that limitation of the IS GUI features. The workaround isn't as elegant as repeater regions, but will still solve the problems with FTL, etc. To make it work for other buttons only requires adding a Mouseover for the Click Bar button, to toggle some Key Map or Mapped Key(s). I tested it just now with mouse4.

The toggle mapped key goes like this. No Hotkey, set to "pressed OR released", with 2 steps. Step 1 has a Key Map State Action to turn on a Key Map (one that is not assigned to your Character Set). Step 2 has the same thing to turn it off.

In the newly-toggled Key Map goes any mappings you want to add to that click bar button, be it mouse buttons, keyboard buttons, etc. If you want to move your mouse over the click bar and hit G to heal, that will work fine.

[Jafula]

Thanks Lax, just implemented the click bar system your described and its got none of the problems I described; the healing worked flawlessly. And thanks again muffin for putting me onto healbot and the initial system.

[Poyzon]

Jafula (or someone else who's implemented this), can you throw up a screeshot of this? I'm curious what your UI looks like now. I'm probably going to try this out myself (and maybe write a another guide version as well for others).

[Jafula]

Here are some screenshots:

First off I built 8 new keymaps in the general keymap group. Four were for left mouse (mouse1) and four were for right mouse (mouse2). Each four had a no mod, shift, ctrl and alt component, which corresponded to healbot actions (see below). The screenshot below is of the left mouse shift keymap. Notice the sync cursor as the first action...

I went all others as I have set it up for my priest to heal, my mage to decurse and my paladins to cleanse, only showing priests healbot screenshots below.

http://wow.jafula.com/images/extforums/isboxheal1.png

Then I build a new clickbar called healing. I made a 1x4 button grid. The first button was for no mod, second was shift, thrid ctrl and fourth alt.

This is the screenshot of the setup for the first (no mod) button.
http://wow.jafula.com/images/extforums/isboxheal2.png


This is the screenshot of the setup for the second (shift) button.

http://wow.jafula.com/images/extforums/isboxheal3.png

I have healbot running on all my characters (essential for my tank and priest). Tank so I can see the health of the toons and priest to do all the hard work (healing).

I moved the click bar over healbot on my tank. You can see the four click bars on top of healbot in the screen shot below. The left larger screen is my tanks and the right smaller screen is my priests.

When I left click in the first box over the Jaamia section, my priest casts penance on Jaamia. If I left click in the first box over Jaania, my priest casts penance on Jaania. If I right click on the first box over Jaamia, my priest casts Power Word: Shield on Jaamia. If I left click on the third box over Jaamia, my priest casts greater heal on Jaamia. You can see my priests healbot setup in the two screenshots below.

http://wow.jafula.com/images/extforums/isboxheal4.png

I set up my priest healbot left click to be as shown below:
http://wow.jafula.com/images/extforums/isboxheal5.png

I set up my priest healbot right click to be as shown below:
http://wow.jafula.com/images/extforums/isboxheal6.png

This is the reason I moved from HotKeyNet to ISBoxer. Just brilliant.

[Tehmuffinman]

Cheers! Thanks dude!

[Poyzon]

Fantastic implementation. Just converted my repeater regions to using this. Need to mess with the Mouse4 implementation (damn priests have too many heals), but the rest works like a champ!

[Tiburon502]

Im pretty new to Isboxer and have a very basic setup with it. I have figured out a few things like making use of other keys how to make them work on some toons and not others. I am sure there is alot that I didnt even know it was capable of, but out of all the multi boxing software I have tried as soon as I got the free trial I said I am paying for this. I love it so I will anxiously be awaiting Jafula's how to on this click bar system.

[Jafula]

I love it so I will anxiously be awaiting Jafula's how to on this click bar system.


You will be waiting a long, long time as I'm probably not going to write one!

[Poyzon]

I added support to my setup for Middle/Mouse4/Mouse5 like Lax described (using mouseover to toggle a key map). I'll probably take Jafula's bits + Lax's + my own touch and write up a guide/wiki page eventually.

On a side note, with my new Healbot setup, I figured I needed a 'trainer' to remind me how my Healbot + Click Bar buttons were configured. Using the Click Bar button image feature, I created some images with hints as to what each click bar button does.


http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/1227/healbotclickbartrainer.png

Each bar now has a reminder of what a particular mouse button does on each click bar button. Eventually, I should be able to turn it off once I get used to the spell assignments.

Obviously, I haven't filled in my Middle, Mouse4 and Mouse5 clicks yet and I'd like to find a more legible font, but that screenshot gives you an idea of what's going on.

All in all, very cool stuff from a very solid program.

[birdbleed]

So, for those of you using Healbot for this; is the order of your toons (in Healbot) the same on all windows? This method works great except that the order of the party doesn't match on my main an healer.

Sorry, I now this thread is a few months old.

[Tehmuffinman]

So, for those of you using Healbot for this; is the order of your toons (in Healbot) the same on all windows? This method works great except that the order of the party doesn't match on my main an healer.

Sorry, I now this thread is a few months old.


You failed to read the disclaimer. =)

DISCLAIMER: I am operating under the assumption that you know how to setup HealBot in-game and how to sort the column to your liking (which is required to make this effective).You can sort your columns alphabetically in the HealBot settings (be sure to uncheck the Self on Top box).

[Jafula]

So, for those of you using Healbot for this; is the order of your toons (in Healbot) the same on all windows? This method works great except that the order of the party doesn't match on my main an healer.

Sorry, I now this thread is a few months old.

It's a 'mare* to work out how to do this, but here is how I did it.

Open healbot options.

Click Skins on the bottom row of tabs.

Click the healing button that is part of the 10 buttons just below the top.

Uncheck all the boxes under the healing bar heading except for "Group".

Now click the sort button that is below those checkboxes.

Set the main sort dropdown to "Name".

Set the sub sort dropdown to "Name".

Make sure "group" is selected for the Also sub sort option.

That should be about it. Healbot can share its settings with your other toons that are online. Make sure all your toons have the same settings.

Hope that helps!

*kiwi slang: 'mare short for nightmare == difficult

[JackBurton]

wow thanks man

[birdbleed]

You failed to read the disclaimer. =)


Yeah I saw it. And, I *thought* I did know how to set it up. I used it regularly a couple of years ago but I guess it's been too long :P

[birdbleed]

It's a 'mare* to work out how to do this, but here is how I did it.

Open healbot options.

Click Skins on the bottom row of tabs.

Click the healing button that is part of the 10 buttons just below the top.

Uncheck all the boxes under the healing bar heading except for "Group".

Now click the sort button that is below those checkboxes.

Set the main sort dropdown to "Name".

Set the sub sort dropdown to "Name".

Make sure "group" is selected for the Also sub sort option.

That should be about it. Healbot can share its settings with your other toons that are online. Make sure all your toons have the same settings.

Hope that helps!

*kiwi slang: 'mare short for nightmare == difficult

That worked like a charm. Thanks man!

I spent a good bit of time messing with it last night. I should have seen those options.

[Sbrowne55]

This is def useful to some. I don't use it, I hate the key modifiers in ISBOXER, they make more problems then having the extra utility. Having hidden shift, crtl or alt sent to that window, will cause any other key pressed in that moment to take the added modifer in affect. I'm a huge keymasher, I mash my heals and dps at the same time consistently. So no go for me.

It's to bad there isnt a way to group modifers and add some sort of ignore modifier to some keys. For example. this would work for me, if I could have key 2,3 and 4 working this way. So I could mash other these buttons while utilizing repeater region.

Theres probably a function to work this out.

[Tehmuffinman]

This is def useful to some. I don't use it, I hate the key modifiers in ISBOXER, they make more problems then having the extra utility. Having hidden shift, crtl or alt sent to that window, will cause any other key pressed in that moment to take the added modifer in affect. I'm a huge keymasher, I mash my heals and dps at the same time consistently. So no go for me.

It's to bad there isnt a way to group modifers and add some sort of ignore modifier to some keys. For example. this would work for me, if I could have key 2,3 and 4 working this way. So I could mash other these buttons while utilizing repeater region.

Theres probably a function to work this out.

I am a huge keymasher too... you just end up learning to #1 not leave your mouse over HealBot unless you need to heal... and #2 pausing mashing for just a minuscule split second when you go to click.

It has never caused a problem, and I spam at 4.5 keypresses a second in my /click macros.

[Jafula]

This is def useful to some. I don't use it, I hate the key modifiers in ISBOXER, they make more problems then having the extra utility. Having hidden shift, crtl or alt sent to that window, will cause any other key pressed in that moment to take the added modifer in affect. I'm a huge keymasher, I mash my heals and dps at the same time consistently. So no go for me.

It's to bad there isnt a way to group modifers and add some sort of ignore modifier to some keys. For example. this would work for me, if I could have key 2,3 and 4 working this way. So I could mash other these buttons while utilizing repeater region.

Theres probably a function to work this out.

I had the same problem. Use the click buttons I have in my post above instead of the repeater regions. You don't get this problem at all with those.

[Iru]

...I spam at 4.5 keypresses a second....

It's called decaf Muffin, maybe you should switch to it?

[Kalyse]

I think that this is probably the biggest #1 selling point for ISBoxer. The ability to do this is nice. I will try it out on a trial tonight and see how I get on.

[Bollwerk]

OK, I followed Jafula's instructions as best as I can, even making it simpler. I set it up 4, rather than 8 keymaps and just setup passing to the healer in slot 5. What seems to happen is the healer will cast the correct spell, but always on the same target, regardless of which toon I pick. Note that I have Sync Cursor -> 5 (the healer) before the action Mouse1 -> 5 (for Riptide for example). I have copied and pasted the healbot settings to each toon, then modified the healer's setup to cast the spells I want with the particular modifiers. (riptide with nomod, LHW with shift, etc). I've also synced the keymap windows and double checked that the names are in alpha order and the spacing fits, etc.

What am I doing wrong here?

[Ualaa]

Not sure, honestly.

For this to work you need the order to be the same on all screens. If the healer is always targeting the same toon with their heals, irregardless of the box you are clicking on, then I would assume it is something to do with Healbot.

If the mouse is broadcast (via repeater) to the healer's window, and you can move it from one box to another (ie, change targets, even if Healbot is not recognizing the target box has changed) then the Repeater region is probably not the issue.

I'm not terribly familiar with Healbot, but that is where the issue will be. See if, from the Healer's screen you can click target your heals on each of your party members. Once you can heal whoever you want to, from the Healer's window, the issue should be resolved.

[Bollwerk]

I think I fixed it, but I had to have the clickbar buttons set to send to "all others", even though I only care about the healer. I just ended up disabling healbot on the dps toons. *shrug*

[crowdx]

Here are some screenshots:

First off I built 8 new keymaps in the general keymap group. Four were for left mouse (mouse1) and four were for right mouse (mouse2). Each four had a no mod, shift, ctrl and alt component, which corresponded to healbot actions (see below). The screenshot below is of the left mouse shift keymap. Notice the sync cursor as the first action...

I went all others as I have set it up for my priest to heal, my mage to decurse and my paladins to cleanse, only showing priests healbot screenshots below.

http://wow.jafula.com/images/extforums/isboxheal1.png

Then I build a new clickbar called healing. I made a 1x4 button grid. The first button was for no mod, second was shift, thrid ctrl and fourth alt.

This is the screenshot of the setup for the first (no mod) button.
http://wow.jafula.com/images/extforums/isboxheal2.png


This is the screenshot of the setup for the second (shift) button.

http://wow.jafula.com/images/extforums/isboxheal3.png

I have healbot running on all my characters (essential for my tank and priest). Tank so I can see the health of the toons and priest to do all the hard work (healing).

I moved the click bar over healbot on my tank. You can see the four click bars on top of healbot in the screen shot below. The left larger screen is my tanks and the right smaller screen is my priests.

When I left click in the first box over the Jaamia section, my priest casts penance on Jaamia. If I left click in the first box over Jaania, my priest casts penance on Jaania. If I right click on the first box over Jaamia, my priest casts Power Word: Shield on Jaamia. If I left click on the third box over Jaamia, my priest casts greater heal on Jaamia. You can see my priests healbot setup in the two screenshots below.

http://wow.jafula.com/images/extforums/isboxheal4.png

I set up my priest healbot left click to be as shown below:
http://wow.jafula.com/images/extforums/isboxheal5.png

I set up my priest healbot right click to be as shown below:
http://wow.jafula.com/images/extforums/isboxheal6.png

This is the reason I moved from HotKeyNet to ISBoxer. Just brilliant.

So dragging up this threat again, on Jafula's setup am I correct in saying that the healbot bars are sitting under the transparent click bars providing a click region over healbot?

[Jafula]

So dragging up this threat again, on Jafula's setup am I correct in saying that the healbot bars are sitting under the transparent click bars providing a click region over healbot?

Yes.

[Shania]

reading through some of the click heals, I think the one i would like to try is Jafula's.

Is there an easier step by step guide on his way of click healing somewhere ? For new boxers like me ?

I was looking at zorbas as well, nice instructions, but I want to use healbot and kind of have it the way Jafula has his done, but need more step intrsuctions start to end.
Or is there something else somewhere similar that can be done ?

[Toned]

I've seen people cover a portion of the frame, with a repeater region.
So if you click the left half, it is the current toon (pally for example) who will cleanse the target.
But the right half of the frame is broadcast, via repeater, for heals or whatever.

Have also seen the combination of Grid + Vuhdo frames on a single UI.
With a repeater region over both, one for heals and another for dispels.

Definitely a neat idea.
And will have some potential, for sure.
Plus its easier to left click, then to click + mod key.
The trade off is extra screen real estate taken up.

The method you reference for cleansing is exactly what I use(1 region down the right side, no region down the left for pally cleansing). I may widen my vuhdo frames and add a 2nd column for a mod key. I don't use too many mod keys, but it has always been something that has annoyed me. This is a great idea and addition that I may use :)

[Jafula]

reading through some of the click heals, I think the one i would like to try is Jafula's.

Is there an easier step by step guide on his way of click healing somewhere ? For new boxers like me ?

I was looking at zorbas as well, nice instructions, but I want to use healbot and kind of have it the way Jafula has his done, but need more step intrsuctions start to end.
Or is there something else somewhere similar that can be done ?

Have you worked out how to do this yet? Do you need more instructions?

[Shania]

No I have not :(

Im still running with my 4 mages and my priest, they are now nearly lvl 81. So what we do is sometimes drop one of the mages and my fiance will bring in his pally tank and he hit the dungeons and I x3 dps and heal leading from the priest window. Not really ideal... The plan is to be eventually I 5 solo dungeons myself, using my own pally tank, but the issue is healing the grp atm... I cannot tank myself, dps and heal all at the same time they way I do it currently, so I do need some sort of more guided, baby me instructions to set up what you achieved.

Thank you kindly for asking. :)

[Elgert]

Has just (tried to) setup the Jafula-style actionbars (with Vuhdo) and it almost works :S It seems like the sync cursor action works as I can see the cursor appear on my healer slaves bars where it should - but no click!

My actions are

Sync Cursor -> Healers
Mouse 1 -> Healers

and

Sync Cursor -> Healers
Mouse 2 --> Healers

Any idea why the second action does not kick Vuhdo into action? (clicking the Vuhdo bars directly from the healers window works fine, so its not the spell setup)


EDIT: Apparently the action "Mouse1" sends something that Vuhdo/my pc/whatever sees as "Shift+Mouse1". Very strange. "SHIFT+Mouse1" triggers the same, "CTRL+Mouse1" triggers nothing :-/

[Lax]

Has just (tried to) setup the Jafula-style actionbars (with Vuhdo) and it almost works :S It seems like the sync cursor action works as I can see the cursor appear on my healer slaves bars where it should - but no click!

My actions are

Sync Cursor -> Healers
Mouse 1 -> Healers

and

Sync Cursor -> Healers
Mouse 2 --> Healers

Any idea why the second action does not kick Vuhdo into action? (clicking the Vuhdo bars directly from the healers window works fine, so its not the spell setup)


EDIT: Apparently the action "Mouse1" sends something that Vuhdo/my pc/whatever sees as "Shift+Mouse1". Very strange. "SHIFT+Mouse1" triggers the same, "CTRL+Mouse1" triggers nothing :-/

I would need to see your configuration to tell you exactly what went wrong, but either...

A) You enabled "Use FTL Modifiers" on something that affects your click Mapped Keys (this should not usually be enabled on any Key Maps or Mapped Keys, other than FTL Follow Me, FTL Assist Me, and FTL Target Me). If you're in window 1, this means it would send Shift+Mouse1. If you're in window 3, Ctrl+Mouse1.

or B) You're pressing Shift, Repeater ("broadcasting") is ON, and the Hold option is enabled on the Mapped Key.

I'm going to assume it's A, since if it was B, you wouldn't notice the Sync Cursor Action doing anything at all. Make sure you're not enabling Use FTL Modifiers on things, especially entire Key Maps. :)

If that's not it, drop by the ISBoxer Chat Room and show me your config (in ISBoxer go to File, Copy ISBoxer Toolkit Profile to Clipboard, then go to privatepaste.com, paste it there, and give me the link to it), and we can talk about whatever went wrong

[Elgert]

Thanks for the fast reply - its so frustrating when (you think) the bits and bytes are being naughty!

After reading your suggestion A) I got a flashback from being told to set the FLT-modifiers option when using a macro a friend emailed me. Seems like I set it as default for all keymaps :rolleyes: Thanks again for the reply - and for this great product.

A video feed of my healers minimap (for herbalism) is up next - so I will probably break down crying soon again :eek:

[Shania]

I am probably the noobishness boxer there is but Im managing ok so far.

Healing part and this topic and some others from a real noob point of view just boggles my head.

Is this repeater reggion "stuff" like as follows...

Example Im using healbot atm for my priest to heal my x3 mages in dungeons, fiance tanks, I havent moved my own tank yet too solo as I need to first sort healing out as I lead with the priest so I can use healbot to heal my toons and tank when needed, priest too.

Its limited, sort of.. I change options based on fight/encounters in heal bot and I only heal using mouse while left hand smashes keys for dpsing lol.

So sometimes I have left click for bind heal, because sometimes I find healing that way works on certainfights so healer is auto healed too. right click can be greater heal, middle mouse can be circle of healing. Thats just an example and gets mixed around depending on encounters/healing issues.

Its not enough sometiems, I want more healing options without having to mouse over my bars too click a specific spell. I dont use ctl+ whatever heal added, or shif + whatever heal added, as Im trying to get accustomed to healing the grp and tank in normal cata dungeons while levelling the 4 team. Its working but not enough.

So the author of this topic and Jafula, this repeater region, does it have more options for healing and you just mouse over and left or right click, is that what this is, means ?

So could I mouse over toon 1 click one of the box colums and it would do a greater healer, same toon 1 next column might do a flash healer, another column, another heal spell etc ?

Sorry if it is difficult to comprehend what I am trying to say..

Basically I want too eventually 5 solo dungeons myself, and have more healing options, spells with ease of using it, without the 3 my mouse buttons can support using heal bot.

But atm. unless there is other ways i cannot tank and lead on tank and heal my grp as I need to be on my priest too lead so I can heal :/