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talpax
03-01-2010, 08:54 AM
Hi

During the last period one question is coming out of my mind, is still there a reason for multiboxing?

I started some month ago mainly for the reason i can't get in Heroics doing PUG.
My guild was really lazy and as DPS Warrior :( no way the get a spot in any PUG
After a lot of frustration i moved to boxing.

This was before the random system, after this a new world come out in front of my eyes...:cool:

Now my crappy DPS warrior has a full T9 set and also a Shaman, Hunter, Warlock, Paladin.

My priest will be soon at the same point so i will be ready for my nice team:

Tank
Paladin
Healer
Priest
DPS
Shaman,Hunter,Warlock

(Warrior bye bye)

After this i realized one thing, do i still need boxing?

I can't find a reason for this, i don't need Heroics farming for triumph badges.
For the frost i can Pug the first daily so after 6 month i will be full of it...

With boxing i can avoid afk people, ninja's and stuff like that but i don't see other reasons.

About raid boxing i can't even imagine how hard can be Thaddius or others bad guys like him...

So please give some suggestion, i loved boxing, but i'm loosing my heart.. :D

Ty

Khatovar
03-01-2010, 09:04 AM
We can't answer why you would want to continue multiboxing, only you can. If you don't see any reason to do instances, try pvp or arena, or bring up a new team. If you still don't see a reason, then don't do it. It's not like the accounts vanish into the nether, you can always restart them later.

Seldum
03-01-2010, 09:08 AM
Excactly. Theres so many different reasons why people multibox.

I do agree that it's very easy to get into heroics/normal instances now with the dungeon system. In one way I think its sad - because now I can stay in dalaran and never leave and still go into instances etc.
The good part is, I can now get a lot more instance running instead of having to fly to the instance I want to do.....

Even though I meet a lot of different people in the random dungeons, we still barely chat. It's often only a hello and then we go straight at it.

Daeri
03-01-2010, 09:22 AM
If you're getting bored of your team because you can't find any more appealing content to do, maybe you could consider starting a new team from scratch ? Playing a completely different team (different assortment of classes) can be a fun challenge. At least if you enjoy the leveling part of the game course :)

Khemikal
03-01-2010, 10:17 AM
Plain and simple to me, I box so I can avoid people when doing 5 man instances. Even with the new system, you still can run across idiots who mess up a run. When you box, you control everything. The loot, the pull speed, burn order, afkness, etc. To me there is nothing like being able to hop into an instance anytime I want, take a break during it when I want, and end it when I want. Get hungry during an instance, no problem! Someone at the door, no problem! Significant other need something, no problem!

New LFG system or not, you are still getting paired with the same people from before. It did not change the people you would be running those instances with. So until they can do this, any group outside of friends/guild/boxing will always have that question about how good the group members are.

crowdx
03-01-2010, 12:03 PM
I started Mulitboxing around the same time as the OP and I have been thinking the same thing. I have my main team in full t9 all pretty much around 5k GS and my Hunter and Mage alts are pretty close behind. I have over 30k gold in my bank and all the accounts and the shoulders and chest heirloom items plus a few weapons.
Now what I am doing is leveling a new team, the toons were sitting at early 60s for nearly a year. This team is now at 75 and I am looking forward to hitting heroics again at 80.
My last goal is to level a horde team from scratch to experience that content before Cataclysm.
All in all I have lots planned but I do get the feeling from time to time that I could easily just single box or even triple box and it is only when I am leveling that I really love the fact that I can walk into any area with my team and not have to worry about getting a bad pull and dying, instead a lot of times (Wintergard Keep is a prime example) I pull as many mobs as I can find just simply for the extra XP.

Littleburst
03-01-2010, 12:34 PM
Going afk whenever you want. priceless.

Shodokan
03-01-2010, 12:53 PM
Going afk whenever you want. priceless.

Quote for truth

Bigfish
03-01-2010, 01:55 PM
If all you're looking for is gear and progression, you can probably get by single boxing. Personally, I just get too much out of multiboxing to give it up, from gauranteed loot distribution, to multiple crafts, to being able to solo the weekly.

If there's nothing you like about boxing any more, don't do it. Simple as that. It not like there is any shame in playing just one character. Personally, I use my boxing experience to enhance what I can pull off with just one. Just do what you want to do.

wowphreak
03-02-2010, 12:31 AM
Initially I went to 5 boxing because of the long wait times to find a group and at times even when there a group formed someone dropped or all the loot annoyances.
When the new lfg went live I seriously though about dropping 4 accounts but there are just so many benefits to multiboxing I never dropped my other accounts.

@ Bigfisg yer links dont work
Binding Mouse Clicks to your Keyboard (http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=17593)
Running Concurrent /castsequences to keep the hassle out of DoT management (http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=19134)

Zal
03-02-2010, 12:49 AM
If all you're looking for is gear and progression, you can probably get by single boxing. Personally, I just get too much out of multiboxing to give it up, from gauranteed loot distribution, to multiple crafts, to being able to solo the weekly.

If there's nothing you like about boxing any more, don't do it. Simple as that. It not like there is any shame in playing just one character. Personally, I use my boxing experience to enhance what I can pull off with just one. Just do what you want to do.
Quoting this because it's about as close as it could get without the harshness of what i wanted to say, and bolding the important stuff.

Sbrowne55
03-02-2010, 02:24 AM
I'm definetely thinking the same as the OP. However, I do not want to level up a team again... Leveling in this game is worse then watching paint dry. This game really is starting to get boring. I log in, and sometimes i just sit there AFK and wonder what to do.

I have a 10 man team, and to be honest there are only a few 10 boss i can drop, and all the 5 mans. I'm completetly stressed out over making a huge team, to get halted at the difficultly of content. Some bosses are imposible to beat, and on top of that, for a boxer to beat it, you have to be over geared making it worsless.

I really missed the old DAOC boxing. WOW sucks for boxing. every fight is some sorta of danceathon type fight.


I do instances solo now, but the game itself is even more boring on just one toon.

I'm really upset. This game is uterly boring. And I just got back from a month break.

Ualaa
03-02-2010, 05:21 AM
Bottom line...

Is boxing fun or not?



Boxing gives you some freedom, in that you do what you want, when you want.
You can AFK for 10 minutes, four times in an hour and not irritate anyone.
You don't have to wait for three party members who each take a 2 min AFK, but one after the other as seems to inevitably be the case.

You don't have some idiot need on your hunter gun, for their warrior.
Your loot goes where you choose it to go.
You have 5x the rewards, for things like dailies.
And have the ability to stack things like professions.

You also need to control five toons at once, which can be a pain in the ass in some instances.
There is a definite limit to what you can do, controlling everyone, as opposed to one-boxing.
You can attend every raid, every fight, which is not true for boxing.
One-boxing is a lot cheaper then five boxing.
Maybe you decide to downgrade to two accounts, instead of five.
Or whatever.



But I'd ask again.
Is boxing fun or not?

boxblizzard
03-02-2010, 05:34 AM
boxing for the right reasons as mentioned above, i have level teams to 60 and then dumped them, and created a new 5 team to80 and dumped to make a new team to 80 straight after without being botherd about it.

i play because i can do things myself, and dont have to wait on tardness, ive been boxing for few years now and im still intrested.

the better softtware and hardware is getting really opening the door on what can be done. for example we downed lord marrowgar with 2 boxers on 10 man sunday night. check out youtube for multiboxing lord marrowgar you will see me and the gimps.

this what sparks my intrest, getting 251 and 264 gear with other boxers, its just win.

if you bored, maybe your not planning your team properly resulting in fails, if you keep dying on a boss that is easy which is no1 stresszor then i would blame it on human error/bad day/ lag/gear so move onto a different instance. or take a break do something else.

have fun

talpax
03-02-2010, 06:45 AM
Bottom line...

Is boxing fun or not?



Boxing gives you some freedom, in that you do what you want, when you want.
You can AFK for 10 minutes, four times in an hour and not irritate anyone.
You don't have to wait for three party members who each take a 2 min AFK, but one after the other as seems to inevitably be the case.

You don't have some idiot need on your hunter gun, for their warrior.
Your loot goes where you choose it to go.
You have 5x the rewards, for things like dailies.
And have the ability to stack things like professions.

You also need to control five toons at once, which can be a pain in the ass in some instances.
There is a definite limit to what you can do, controlling everyone, as opposed to one-boxing.
You can attend every raid, every fight, which is not true for boxing.
One-boxing is a lot cheaper then five boxing.
Maybe you decide to downgrade to two accounts, instead of five.
Or whatever.



But I'd ask again.
Is boxing fun or not?

As usual Ualaa get the point ;)

At the moment i really don't know if is still fun..:confused:

Avoiding bad human being is great thing but still don't know if is enough.

Boxing gave me the chance to explore all the classes, macros, specs and this was a lot of fun.
Now i can say i know better the game of 80% of the players.

My feelings are like being at the end of a path and i really don't know if i would start again from the beginning.
This path end because of the raids difficulty.

Maybe the solution will be another boxer for sharing experience but is a hard thing to find, there are not many boxer and we are lonely soul;)

Another solution will be the nerf of the raids with the next patch ... :D

heyaz
03-02-2010, 10:07 AM
Pvp

Ogloo
03-02-2010, 10:56 AM
I don't really benefit from multiboxing anymore in a sense of getting groups w/e (never really did).
I do it because its a challenge and reallllllly fun. Doing heroics by yourself is so rewarding.

Dorffo
03-02-2010, 05:35 PM
I geek out about optimizing keybinds, macros, UI stuff etc. so having a whole team to play with is wonderful. PvP is also fun (and I like to think that it adds a bit of flavor for the opposition too... I'm not one who steamrolls folks yet, so there's a lot of free honor to be had by running across me:D)

As far as progression goes - I pretty much just raid tank solo or run a DPS solo for current teir content.

Ghallo
03-02-2010, 05:46 PM
I don't really benefit from multiboxing anymore in a sense of getting groups w/e (never really did).
I do it because its a challenge and reallllllly fun. Doing heroics by yourself is so rewarding.


This.

I leveled a second team to 80 and specifically didn't get them too overgeared. I bought what they could afford off the AH, got 2 badge items with my tank (he had a level 55 trinket!) crafted up some ilvl 200 stuff and then hit the random dungeon tool.

Slamming through a heroic with ilvl 264 gear would be a yawnfest.

Beating a Heroic boss when your basically at gear level? Exciting! My poor wife had to listen to me cheering about that one, and then had to patiently listen to my blow-by-blow.

In the end, there are lots of fights that are harder for boxers. The question is, are they too hard? I did the SFK Love Rocket and wiped all 5 of my first attempts. The second day I only lived on my pally on 2 attempts because of CD's. The third day I only wiped 1 time because of forgetting to put on the stupid perfume/cologne. By the last day of the event I was collecting my 5 free Abyss Shards (with 0 gear change). The fight started off being a "damn Blizz and their stupid movement fights" and then moved to "Wow, I did it!" - and then I posted a writeup here on the forums to share with the community.

So - I would challenge that most fights are "do-able" by an at-gear boxer that understands the fight and can think outside of the box. You have tons of tools at your disposal and you have to think about that when you play. Like the fact that I had a lock on my team and didn't even think to use the pet for 5 wipes. Or to use a mage to Spell Steal, etc. Just considering your team as a DPS powerhouse means you'll have to brute-force all the encounters which means you'll need to out-gear the content - but thinking about your team's abilities (or potential abilities with a re-spec) may get you through content you didn't think was possible at first.

TLDR: I agree with Ualaa. Have fun first.

Ñightsham
03-02-2010, 10:01 PM
Boxing is unique.

Out of the 11 million accounts that Blizzard has stated there are in WoW how many of those truly multi-box? Most don't because of financial reasons and/or computer resources. I got interested because of the challenge in controlling multiple toons using one computer.

I'm still no where near most of you here and it gets very frustrating at times, but I keep plugging away doing this or that. One thing is for sure, there's always something to do in this game. An achievement here, an instance there or rep or whatever.

Until the next expansion comes out, there's still plenty to do :)

DrChaos
03-02-2010, 10:42 PM
I started boxing because of a horde hunter. Thats right, I said it..... I was on my priest in bc doing some questing and out of no where a hunter (or 5) on shot me, several times and then ran away. I run back and rez and there he is again. one shot me again. I didnt release and just watched him. I was amazed how that could happen and started looking up about how it was done. I found db.com and here i am. Ive played since the day after realease and never ever seen or heard about multiboxing. So I created a 4 man team of spriest and have been on a revenge killing spree every since. If Its Red, Its Dead.

You have to pick what makes you happy about playing wow. If its one char or 25 chars. I know I get a smile everytime I log on my 5 man team and run a 10 man or 25 man with my family. Its just something to do and we really enjoy it.

mrmcgee21
03-02-2010, 10:50 PM
The absolute domination you can dish out in pvp as a multiboxer is why I will probably never single box for any period of time again. The most fun I have had in video games period has been 4 boxing in pvp, its frustrating at times but being able to mow down people like I can in bg's and arena's is hard to pass up. The pve end of the game has really lost about all of its allure to me, boxing or not since it just involves slamming my face into the keyboard until the red name plates disapear(except for heroic raids which don't offer remotely fair RvR).

Either way I find myself having to take longer and longer breaks between sessions nowadays, wow is just getting stale. The xpac will stave it off for awhile but not long. WTB nextgen mmo.

heyaz
03-03-2010, 01:35 AM
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d0z3rr
03-03-2010, 03:01 PM
I started boxing because of a horde hunter. Thats right, I said it..... I was on my priest in bc doing some questing

What server? I used to gank quite a bit on my old hunter team in BC.

Diwa
03-06-2010, 10:50 AM
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http://www.dual-boxing.com/forumdisplay.php?f=40