Wotlk - ICC - The Forge of Souls (FoS) - Bronjahm

[Gares]

I watched the vids and everything and I just can't down him. He heals to pretty much full health the moment he gets an orb to him. I tried kiting the orbs but in the end I run my mana dry and its game over. He doesn't hit hard I just can't kill him below 75% at any time

Help please? Running 3 DPS and 1 healer shaman and pally

Edt nevermind I brute forced it like the video and managed it pretty easy

[Mosg2]

Tried him a half dozen times as Dk+4 Rets. He raped me. It wasn't even close. The amount of damage this guy puts out is ridiculous, especially with an all melee group.

Any other melee groups have any tips? I need to get past this guy for my Quel'Derars! ^_^

[David]

I think you need a healer here or it`s a no go. Besides that, only having melee on him must be a terrible bitch.

[johny_mnemonic]

I was doing this instance yesterday with my 3 DKs and 2 randoms being rogue and paladin healer. I was tanking and doing DPS. it was quite easy and smooth run, until we got to this boss and were eaten realy fast. The thing is he cast some sort of reflective shield, so you have to stop dps. Otherwise you will kill yourself :-),He also does some other abilities like heavy nuke for 18k dmg on heroic, which can be reflected back or interupted. Another ability is well of souls, you just need to not stand in it.

Hope this helps.

[Danos]

Had the same problem to start with but I had my team stacked on him...so I left the team in the middle and moved the tank away. Then just dps the add before it gets to him, kite the boss around if it's not down when it's getting close. When he gets to 40% just stack in the middle and drop a tremor. Still managed to one shot it even with him healing 3-4 times.

[Raskaz]

Not attacking while somone having the mirrored soul debuff on his is crucial. The latest deadlyboss mod e.g. gives you a nice flashy screen warning - that helps.

[Prega]

i have successful done on ptr and yesterday on alive server with 5-melee group, my 5 paladins, in heroic.
my impressions.
this fight have 3 mini phases.
"mini" phases consist mainly in boss ability changes: you can continue attack him all the time.
-p1, typical "stance", same one you get when you engage him, consist in huge spell attack on tank+well of souls AE+ sort of drain life ability strongly related/chained with his AE ability(usually AE proc in place where is drained-target).
if you check with attention the ground, when he cast AE ability, a ground area (a perfetct circle) looks like pink colored: move out fast and place your grp in safe spot. my impression, this phase have a longer duration.
typically i wiped for drain-AE on prt, yesterday he gone down at 1st attempt, thx mainly normal latency on live server.
-p2 starts when he changes* face, he stops himself in a specific postion, dont cast anymore p1 spells and summon spirits. he dont cast the infamous drain+AE spells (yes the most dangerous thing in this fight for me), so in case you can heal hard (if you need to recover some health) or do high dps here .
-p3 he stops doing other abilities (p1 or p2), change to really different face(lol) from p1: its really important here stay out from face-front position. he cast a cone of luminous rays. in case you cant move out your party members get basically instant death( tank could survive, depends current health).

the main strategy for me is basically stay out from well of souls AE area and heal drained target and tank.
i taunt boss from drained-target too.
aoe in p2, and keep up dps on boss.
then find safe spot outside his frontal cone during p3, and dps.
remember mini phases rotation continue till he dies.
hope could help a bit

[suprafro]

Hes a tough fight for a DK + 4 ret team but doable, took me quite a few tries to finally get him down and it was very chaotic. I just move in a circle the entire fight to avoid the void zones and stop DPS during his damage redirection thing (forget the name).

Ick in PoS is a bit more insane but doable, and garfrost is pretty much a joke for this group

If all else fails, I believe you can actually run these instances in normal mode to complete the quests and then gain attunement to pit of saron and halls of reflection. Pit of Saron is an awesome place to farm for hilts (heroic trash only drops the hilts), tons of trash and no edges to fall off. Though, i'm pretty sure for the hilt quests you will need to complete them in heroic mode (not sure on this)

[Mosg2]

I'll see if I can get attuned by doing the non-heroic versions.

My issue is that the DK+4 Rets doesn't heal well while mobile. Setting up a macro to stop DPS for everyone while siphon goes off is going to be a f'ing pain in the ass. The fight is just too hectic. Really appreciate the tip about moving around in a circle. That'll probably work for me in time :)

[heffner]

I am also stuck on Devourer of Souls. I tried both planting my slaves and strafing them when he drops the bomb, as well as just keeping them on follow. Both worked ok. The biggest problem I have is the lazer beam on it's fricken head. I always lose a few [or all] toons to this and eventually just wipe. Part of it is I don't seem to recognize when it's coming. I have both DBM and BigWigs, so I do get the warning messages.

I run a mixed group, tank, healer, 3 ranged dps.

Anyone have any more tips on how to avoid the lazer beam?

[heffner]

Ok, well I just read a random player is debuffed with Wailing Souls and then the lazer beam starts ~3seconds later. Hopefully I can pay attention to this! It also says "Stare into the abyss, and see your end!", not sure if that is when the debuff is cast or when he turns on the lazer.

Will try again tomorrow....trash repops are too short =(

[Khatovar]

Devourer of Souls {heroic} has a ton going on. hard to keep track of everything. First thing I did for this one is add NumPad0 to my setup

Master - macro /stopattack {so I don't lose my target}
Healer - macro /cast [target=focustargettarget] Chain Heal {drops heals on whomever DoS has targetted for Mirror}
All other - keybound target nearest friend

That helps a lot with the mirrored soul stuff. Gotta keep an eye out for when the red beam drops to start DPS again.

I had to max out my camera distance to see around this boss. It's near impossible to tell what way it's facing half the time. The hardest part really is trying to see the puddles and know what way to move asap. Even with Shadow Res aura, it was brutal. Gonna take some practice to get this one down.

[Hurricane]

WTB some nice walkthroughs for pala tank and 4 shamans :)

[Alemi]

WTB some nice walkthroughs for pala tank and 4 shamans :)

There's really nothing too special about this instance for a tank/ranged/healer setup. Check out the videos up if you need a quick overview. Otherwise, it's pretty straightforward and has been mentioned here:

- Don't stand in the fires
- Don't dps when he mirrors damage

[Multibocks]

Three phases to this guy. Phase one is standard dps him til he mirror, then just make your guys follow tank and run around until he pounces on someone. Move everyone out of fire and continue dps. Phase 2 he starts summoning a crap ton of ghosts. This is basically your free dps time. The ghosts hit lightly so just ignore them and beat him down fast. Phase 3 was where I wiped a lot. You have to be really ready to move in an instant. He casts an AoE that hits every .4secs in front of the face. What you want to do is have everyone strafe to your right. He turns to the left so you should only get hit once. After moving clear of AoE, dps hard and he should die before doing anything else.

[bartholomeo]

Lol, last time i managed to kill him he could do his three phases 2 times :)
My dps was slacking :p

[offive]

Will try again tomorrow....trash repops are too short


What! They dont pop fast enough for some of us. ICC 5 man trash is a prized commodity! Heck it would be nice to have a stream of ICC Raid trash at the start to grind out the Ashen Verdict rep for more patterns.:D

[Mosg2]

As I said above, I run DK+4 Rets. I was able to get him down on normal mode which still really hard for me. The trick is that you need a mod to announce what's coming. The amount of damage a melee team takes is pretty high but there's not a whole lot you can do.

I think I can probably do him on Heroic right now but there's no real point. I'm going to farm the first two bosses in PoS on normal mode for emblems and the PoS trash for the Hilts. Since you can do all of the Hilt quests in normal mode...

[Multibocks]

WHAT? Are you serious? I thought it had to be heroic! FAAACK, I've been sitting on one of these due to Garfrost kicking my ass and I finally killed him last night only to forget to loot the hammer. Poop.

[Mosg2]

Yep, everything can be done for the Hilt on non-Heroic mode.

[kutz]

Okay, so this is probably my first post ever, but I had to share this stupid luck tidbit...

I cleared all the way to Bronjahm with no difficulty and watched a quick youtube vid on how to down him. After watching the video, I wasn't quite sure what the plan was, but I thought I'd give him a try. I basically just tanked and spanked him (tanked with a feral druid, dpsed with fire mage, affliction lock, and shadow priest, and healed with pali), burning him down without any real strategy other than healing when necessary. When he went into the final phase of the souls flying around, I would hit my follow button when someone was feared into the AoE damage area to bring them back, all while dps'ing. It worked like a charm with no deaths. If you run a team like mine, it might just work.

The stupid luck part was, I had set it to Heroic by accident before I zoned in. So, when Bronjahm fell and I looted him I was like "WTF?! Epix?!!"... I wish things happened that way all the time.

[Fursphere]

The stupid luck part was, I had set it to Heroic by accident before I zoned in. So, when Bronjahm fell and I looted him I was like "WTF?! Epix?!!"... I wish things happened that way all the time.

He drops epics on normal mode. learn2patchnotes

[kutz]

He drops epics on normal mode. learn2patchnotes

owned, lol

[king.pa]

Devourer of Souls is an easy kitty on normal mode
that's another story on Heroic !!! (not down yet)

[Clone]

I didnt know how the mirror soul ability worked. I thought the damage the mirror soul guy took was high but I just heal through it. Ill try stopping dps next time and see if its easier for me. Just being quick at healing and quick at moving from the puddles is all you need for that fight. 4 times ive killed it now and I havent ever moved away from the wailing souls debuff either, I must have just been lucky with that one or possibly just dps it down too fast.

I stack my guys on top of one another then dps till first mirror soul, then heroism and all out dps, strafing the guys out of the puddle. I do have 3 healing stream totems up, 2 of them tick for around 260 the other for 450ish also shadow resist aura.

On the first day I killed it I did wipe about 5 times first but after that I farmed up 2 pieces of t9 and some new totems for my team and the next day onwards Ive one shot it each time. The only other new heroic boss that I have downed though is the first one in halls of reflection and that was very close with just my tank alive and 1 dps alive at the end. I will be working on Pit of Saron tommorow, going by the normal mode though and a few attempts on garfrost in heroic it looks like its not gonna be easy.

[Sbrowne55]

Would like to see something about bronjajm here, title is misleading...

[bartholomeo]

I used the random heroic system today to farm for the T9 sets, I already had about 20 emblems of triumph on my guys each, so i needed a few heroics to buy the first parts of the set.
I started the first random and i got Utgarde keep. Cleared it pretty quickly as I have it on farm.
The 2nd heroic was Forge of Souls ( ohboy ) , my plan was too sit out the 15 mins and change the heroic after the timer had run out. After 15 mins I managed to get to the first boss. I decided to give it a shot.

My tactic was to tank and spank him all the way. The first minutes I barely scratched him as he kept healing himself to full. I couldn't interrupt his channelled soul-spell, so I chainhealed trough it. ( I have a hotkey that targets each shaman and chainheals the group ). I was well oom when he got to 30% and did his soulwhirlwind thingy.
Thunderstorm + mana tide totem got me trough the fight.
I interact to keep any feared ones on the boss. Tremor totem made sure they didn't run very far.
All and all this is quite an intensive fight as i didn't know u can stop him from healing apparently :)

[Sbrowne55]

I followed many of the intructions on various websites, and put together a simple way of doing this guy on HEROIC.

I run a group of 1 pally, 3 dps range, and a priest.

P1
I had my priest spam group heal and circle of healing in phase1, the ae he does will always hit you, so positioning isnt curcial at start, and you will need to heal through it. I placed my guys 10 yards from my tank, and when the orb pops, kite the boss around to keep it from attaching and healing the boss. Dps the orb down, and get back on the boss.

P2. Make sure no orb is up, or you'll go into p2 with him 240k more hp, and most likely wipe.

Stack up in middle as he casts his spell into phase 2, and drop a fear ward on the tank. safe zone is dead center of the room. He will fear random members(individual fear), to the outside of the room, where an ae is constantly bursting dps out. move back in center, and dps him down.

It's quite simple if you have enough dps and a good ae healer.

Hope that helps.

[Raskaz]

The key to this fight is having the dps to burn that soul fragment down in time.
I usually don't move my tank at all just have all other toons including the healer to get that thing vaporized.

I don't even drop tremor totems on that fight since the fear really doesn't last long at all and you get your toon back quite fast via interact (need to toss a heal on him though).

[jimbobobb]

For James Brown, simply brute force him. Ignore the soul fragments, and when they heal him, just do more damage again. Lots of aoe healing after each of his aoes. In phase two, simply heal whoever gets feared, and IWT to run them back into the safe zone. If you can make it to phase two, you are in the easy zone, as it's just tank and spank with random single target fear.


For the Devourer of souls - Move your guys before he jumps - as soon as the purple thing appears under someone, move your team. He has 3 faces, and you can tell what's going to happen by what face is active. I just keep my guys on af the entire time, move them all when he jumps, aoe heal through the ghosts, and make sure that....

For the Devourer of souls: NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER LET YOUR TEAM BE IN FRONT OF THE FEMALE FACE. EVER. I MEAN EVER. That is the face that does the ridiculous frontal beam aoe. When that face spins around and focuses on someone, get your team the hell away from it. If you make sure you never are in front of the female face, and can move your guys before he jumps, this fight is not too difficult.


this is all on heroic, btw

[zenga]

On normal mode bronjahm is a spank/tank fight for me (with staggered tremor totems). Only tried him 3 times on HC mode but there i fail. He keeps healing himself cause i'm not reacting fast enough, making my healer running out of mana eventually. So i wanna put the orb into my dps target macro (pretty much like the ice tombs). Anyone has the exact name of the orb?

[crowdx]

The key to this fight in heroic on bronjahm is kiting him. DPS him fast and when he does his orb thing kite him away from it, keep dps'ing him and he will go to the next phase without ever healing. I too could not out dps the heals from the orb until I tried this and then it made it back into a tank and spank fight :)

[ghonosyph]

/tar corrupt should get it for you however I will suggest to you a different strategy. Ignore that stupid shard and just muscle thru it. My team consists of 3 dk and a feral druid tank, if you can muster up 4 k dps you likely should be able just to burst him down, I wouldn't even keep your alts away, just melee range it:) bloodlust is ftw

[KAC]

my team is 1 pally tank,3 ele shams, and 1 druid healer. I stack my 4 toons right on the ring at the top of the steps and blow my cd's on my tank and run in I put bronjahm on the other side of the ring so he is far as possible away but still within my lightning bolt spell range. My team has enough dps to burst him down to phase 2 before his shard heals him at all. I then follow toons back to middle for phase two drop my tots and burn him down. I hit my follow key to bring back any feared team member to the middle and my druid has ridiculous mana regen and aope healing power so thats not a problem for me. You can also hotkey one of your shamans to drop an earthbind totem as soon as the shard pops and it will also slow it down.. I tried for extra tough by just tanking him directly in the middle on heroic and never trying to avoid the shards healing him i dpsed him down through two shard heals and went to phase rwo with about 30% mana on my dps 80% mana on my healer. I went to the middle and was going to burn him but sometimes tremor tot doesnt pulse at the right time and my tank was feared and i instinctively hit the follow key which made all my toons rush to the aoe I managed to get back to the middle but my healer got feared immediatley and just got burned too fast on the aoe and went down. Shortly after my dps died and I pop LoH and i managed to get him to a bit below 40k beofre I died.Now I did him half-assed this way never cared about the shards and 4 of my guys died and i got him to below 40k on heoric. I understand the patch nerfs this instance today and it should even be easier. If your team can do any of the icc instances on normal mode you can do them on heroic with no problem the strategies are the same you just need more dps. My team has every triumph emblem armor,relic,ring,and trinket you can have for their role and I know that makes my job a lot easier. If you dont have the dps dont even do heroic until you have all the best pieces for your guys from the normal modes or its just going to be a repair gold monster. edit..I just read patch notes and devourer casts mirrored soul less often and my shamans get a 5% increase in damage form my elemental talent jesus blizz thanks for making it even easier to do instances with my group. Devourer is a bit of luck on heoric but now that he will do less mirrored soul means i can dps the shit out of him without having to move around as much and I get an overall 15% dps output from my three shamans lmfao!

[crowdx]

I do not think Bronjahmn got nerfed in this patch. I had a hard night on both bosses last night, I think I must have latency issues at night because I wiped 5 times on this guy before skipping him and then wiped twice on the last boss before going to bed. It was a really rough night lol.

I really think kiting the shard is the easiest way to do the first phase, I pull the boss to the left so that the shard ends up over to the left and then run him around the outer circle, by the time he is on the other side he is ready to go to the second phase which in my opinion is all about luck with the fears if you are not running shammies. My druid can heal most of the time through the fear but sometimes a toon could already be at low health and die too fast. Last night my Druid was feared every run, totally sucked lol.

[boxblizzard]

he's very simple this is how i do it:

my setup is 1 druid tank 3 ele shaman, 1 resto sham

put range dps at the entrance along with the healer. drop totems, + make sure you stagger tremors (drop 1, every second instead of together)

drop fire ele's, send tank in burst him down, when he gets to 30% he go into phase 2, call your troops into the center and then dps and he's dead.

if you cant get to phase 2, this is because your dps is too low and you will come into low dps strategy

this strategy is, if you cant burst him down quick enough he will create souls hards, these will heal him when he come in contact with them.

so when one gets a soul shard extracted , kite him around the room while you dps, you will then get to phase 2.

hope that helps.

[jinkobi]

I killed Bro lots and lots on normal. My team is still young and gearing up - bit gimped for heroic ICC 5 mans.

But basically the best way I found for me to kill him was just to churn and burn as fast as I could. I run a balanced group pally tank-3 boomkins-1 treekin. Just having a dedicated healer and no clothies allows me to heal through many situations I've found. Done all the other heroics no problem.

To start I have everyone on follow and fight in the center of the room pumping out as much DPS as possible then he's already into phase 2 where the hardest part is spamming follow on the slaves who get feared into the wailing souls. If I get feared then I have to break follow so everyone isn't dragged into the crap. Then make my way back to him spamming heals all the way on whoever needs it.

[jimbobobb]

I would recommend not using follow to get back in the middle - as someone has already said it can screw you when you do something silly like hit it when your tank gets feared. Use your IWT key - it's something you should get used to doing anyway after fears, has a longer range than follow, and will get your guys back where you want definitely., as opposed to maybe facing strangely or not actually following because they got feared out of range.

As for the way I personally do it, I just run all my guys right up to him, ignore the shards, and just burn him down through the healing.

[Velassra]

I just did him on normal, had trouble w/ it before(more hp's and spellpower).....actually, didn't even get him close before. I can burn through the shard (Probably not on heroic yet but lol neway:)

Imo.....normal = hard as one of the wotlk release heroics. I'll probably have to try the kite method on heroic sometime.

[Starbuck_Jones]

Its inconsistant. Ive killed him with a pally 4x shaman group on heroic several times. I just dps and ignore the heal. Sometimes he gets 3-4 heals and the first 3 min of the fight is nil, other times he gets one or none and its trivial. 3600gear score and you should be fine. As for phase 2. Interact with target spam. By far the easiest encounter in the place. Trash mobs of thoes packs of 5 are harder.

[Velassra]

Its inconsistant. Ive killed him with a pally 4x shaman group on heroic several times. I just dps and ignore the heal. Sometimes he gets 3-4 heals and the first 3 min of the fight is nil, other times he gets one or none and its trivial. 3600gear score and you should be fine. As for phase 2. Interact with target spam. By far the easiest encounter in the place. Trash mobs of thoes packs of 5 are harder.


Yeah 5 pack casters are a chore to pick up and hold. Only wiped on that 1x...some reasojn cpouldn't keep the bonecaster on me. Imo, trash was harder then the boss. But good to know the boss is inconsistent. Hate not to get it 4-5 times in a row. I'd probably bury my fist in the monitor again, lol.

[Bloodcloud]

Its inconsistant. Ive killed him with a pally 4x shaman group on heroic several times. I just dps and ignore the heal. Sometimes he gets 3-4 heals and the first 3 min of the fight is nil, other times he gets one or none and its trivial. 3600gear score and you should be fine. As for phase 2. Interact with target spam. By far the easiest encounter in the place. Trash mobs of thoes packs of 5 are harder.

Did him on Heroic on first try.

Group: Ele shammie, Arcane mage, Demo Lock, Holy priest, Dk tank

Tactics:
- park alts at the entrance, pull boss to the opposite side.
- start with BL
phase 1:
- when "Corrupted Soul Fragment" goes for him, target it with alts and kite boss away from it.
- rinse and repeat till phase 2
phase 2:
- Aoe healing
- IWT and /follow when feared