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Selz
10-09-2009, 11:13 AM
I don´t know if you guys have seen this
But I feel a dream has come true
Firenove will recieve a buff in patch 3.3

And i cant imagin the possibilities this will give us against melee attackers. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJYqlQUFkDc

/Selz

Siaea
10-09-2009, 11:25 AM
That kicks so much ass it's not even funny. 5 magmas + 5 firenovas every cooldown = pretty wicked AoE. What is the cooldown for the fire nova spell? (I'm not on PTR).

Ridere
10-09-2009, 11:28 AM
It's 10 seconds. You can talent it down to 6 and then Glyph it down to 3, I believe.

Selz
10-09-2009, 11:39 AM
It's 10 seconds. You can talent it down to 6 and then Glyph it down to 3, I believe.

I dont know if this is possible, but who knows. I thougth the chainlightning 15% buff would be the final buff for shaman in wotlk but it seems theres more comming. yet it does have a 1.5sec global cooldown, and they even talk about removing the global cooldown on it, sence it dosnt stun anymore, just imagin that guys blow firenova on all chars followed by a thunderstorm from all youre chars, count that damage :P

But just the idea of being able to blow 4x novas "when you want it to" without even having the nova totem down, it works on every fire totem. thats gotta be one of the sickest multiboxing buff´s in history

Ridere
10-09-2009, 11:57 AM
I admit that I'm pretty excited about it, but my only issue is that you're going to have to get the shamans into "the thick of it" in order to drop those totems down where they can AoE monsters. Not a huge deal, but if you like keeping some distance between your shamans and the tank, it could cause problems. Especially with Magma totem, given the short duration of it.

But still a major buff (with the possible exception of PvP stuns)

It will be nice to have some AoE for trash, though, since DPS meters get so inflated by it. When I'm running Arlassa on group runs, her DPS is always low up until we get to bosses, when she outshines all those AoE spamming hunters and druids. hehe. I love Shaman single-target DPS, but this will be a lovely addition.

heyaz
10-09-2009, 12:01 PM
Only problem is they removed the stun.. which was its real use in pvp

Selz
10-09-2009, 12:08 PM
Only problem is they removed the stun.. which was its real use in pvp

It does lose the stun, but yet id rather want a timed 15k aoe dmg:D

Meshuggenah
10-10-2009, 10:34 AM
Anyone else considered the possibilities of dropping long lasting totems like Wrath in a choke point (door, just behind a wall in WG) and sitting off to one side waiting for people to run past?

Reminds me of playing Duke Nuken 3D with the pipe bombs. Hiding behind a barrel with my thumb poised on the detonate button :D

stoat
10-10-2009, 10:49 AM
Planetside boomer camping :D

asonimie
10-10-2009, 11:32 AM
If they end up removing the GCD I would crap myself and insta-gladiator. If they don't, I probably wont even use it. That 1.5 secs is everything. Keep your fingers crossed!

Eloxy
10-10-2009, 12:32 PM
Im on the PTR as we speak, and u can glyph it down to 3 sec cd.

With the glyph its kinda awesome tbh, especialy if u get 4 of them. Only stuff that sux is that triggers gcd. Shouldnt do that imo, since its a totem (imo more like a pet that a chr ability).
But people are saying to bliz to make it off gcd. lets see what happens ;)

Selz
10-10-2009, 05:52 PM
Im on the PTR as we speak, and u can glyph it down to 3 sec cd.

With the glyph its kinda awesome tbh, especialy if u get 4 of them. Only stuff that sux is that triggers gcd. Shouldnt do that imo, since its a totem (imo more like a pet that a chr ability).
But people are saying to bliz to make it off gcd. lets see what happens ;)

There is still hopes that theyll remove the global cooldown, but nothing is sure. would indeed be awesome tho :D

Redbeard
10-10-2009, 07:47 PM
Are there other damaging spells that are off the GCD? Its not a totem.

Eloxy
10-10-2009, 07:49 PM
Are there other damaging spells that are off the GCD? Its not a totem.

It comes from the totem though

Meshuggenah
10-13-2009, 09:34 AM
While this does sound like a fun/situational toy in PvP, WoW isn't a PvP game. The major issue with Sham is that they're way under par in terms of raid DPS. I would have though Bliz would be focusing on that, rather than adding gimmicky spells that will never be used in a raid setting (with the exception of maybe helping to clear some trash spawns, like whelps, etc).

Even if it's off the GCD, who's going to spend 10+ seconds getting a totem close enough, and risk being cleaved/stomped/tail lashed. so they can make use of a spell that does less damage than a single LB?

Enhance shamans will get more use out of this than Ele will, and they're already higher than Ele on the DPS charts.

Redbeard
10-13-2009, 09:49 AM
Why does everyone assume this was an intended buff to elemental? Maybe there was a blue that I missed (totally possible).

Its a nice new option for PVE for all specs, more situational for elemental than enhancement but more opportunities to do damage is good.

And I dont see how / why they would remove the GCD from it.

Ogloo
10-13-2009, 09:56 AM
am i crazy or did i see that do 5k on each guy?, so if u glyph this puppy down to 3 sec, what ull get is a possiblility to get a instant 20k damage on anyone near..

flame shock+lavaburst (warrior), sometimes brings down from 30k to 10k;... .

BOOOOOM
20k wtfBBQ,
dead.

(i hope this is how it works ;-0)

Meshuggenah
10-13-2009, 10:46 AM
Why does everyone assume this was an intended buff to elemental? Maybe there was a blue that I missed (totally possible).

Enhancement DPS is a lot better than Elemental at the moment (still not high, comparatively, but better than Ele), so I don't see why Blizzard would intentionally buff it and ignore Ele. Then again, I always make the mistake of thinking Blizzard patches should make sense :p