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BoxingGeeks
08-19-2009, 09:24 AM
So over the past few days with your guys help i got my setup rocking and starting doing mid level BG's to learn the ropes and tweak some things. You guys my be use to this by now but it seems when running AB's no mater which base i take i have the rest of the BG "my team" following me just to watch.

While this is cool, we seem to lose a lot because every one grabbed some popcorn and is enjoying the shammy show. Guess its understandable as my shammy's are averaging about 75-100kills per BG.

Maybe i will have to start shewing them away!!!

Owltoid
08-19-2009, 09:57 AM
Yeah, I often have followers to the detriment of the battleground. I can't blame them because I'd probably hang around just to watch, too. The problem is you rarely get credit for causing a win, but you often get blamed for a loss. Having others follow you all the time instead of doing your job increases your chance of getting blamed, though no fault of your own.

shaeman
08-19-2009, 10:19 AM
I've only multiboxed in AV which helps to avoid this kind of attention.

I think the best advice though is to ignore comments in BG chat unless they are folks calling out incoming to the various flags.

Being a boxer just makes you the biggest target for their scapegoat. I've played enough solo battlegrounds and seen the usual crying in there to know that they will always blame someone. If you weren't there it would be "OMG you guys Suck. I wish I'd rolled <insert opposite faction here>". The irony being we all wished he'd rolled the opposite faction too :)

The best ones are where you are told continually through the course of the BG how everyone on the team is a loser, how much you suck, how you need to learn to play and then you win :)

Owltoid
08-19-2009, 10:42 AM
In AV I get about 95% positive response. It could be because I'm all 80 and starting to have decent PvP gear. Other BGs it's only about 50% positive, though I haven't been back since my gear upgrades (at least 5 pieces since).

With 5 80s you can turn the battle in AV. Typically I kill Galv with the group which gives time for horde to cap the first tower. I go and recapture our tower in which time they've capped the second tower. I go recap the second tower, return to the first if they capped it again, and then head down to Drek. With 5 moonkins healing the tank, as long as they can hold aggro I can keep them up with adds with ease. In the end I've delayed horde by a good amount of time by recapping towers and resetting their time and then allowed Drek to die earlier than normal. Of course, this all requires a tank... which isn't given in the new AV.

BoxingGeeks
08-19-2009, 10:53 AM
My favorite comment to date was by a priest as i was defending the mine in AB from 6 incoming. I did manage to kill them but lost 3 of my guys in the processes.... Then a lvl 43 priest say OMG you let me die and didnt heal me and then started to complain i left the flag to go get my 3 guys from the GY.

I politely asked him to do die at another base......

Decadence
08-19-2009, 11:07 AM
Yeah I get this all the time too, I did all BG's up to 70 and switched to AV only at 70.

lans83
08-19-2009, 11:18 AM
I'm between lvls 29-49 on my teams questing the slow way and when times come when I actually want to jump into the battlegrounds, there's never any groups goin when I que up for them. One reason is cause of the time of day I'm only able to get on. Very early in the AM, between 6am-10am central US. Gonna run AV once my teams get to 50 and grind them for a while. Hopefully, I'll still get good xp in there.

Catamer
08-19-2009, 11:40 AM
you need only one follower, any awsome healer group healer like a druid makes your shammies indistructable. When I'm in a good Wintergrasp battle I love it when a good druid healer follows me around :)

Deumus
08-19-2009, 11:51 AM
Same problem here.

Other players follow me all the time in AB, EOS, ...

All the time, when we lose, other players say it's my fault. I'm overpowered with my 4 chars and I'm just a noob because we lose.

Last days, I have a lot of badwords against me in BG. It's very sad to hear that :(

Many times I have a GM tell to see if I'm a bot or not. I think other players report me.

I'm sad to see how other players hate multiboxing...

Catamer
08-19-2009, 03:20 PM
I can't believe you get to chat with a GM... I feel so neglected.

I never liked any of the BG except for Alterac Valley and I'm starting to really like Wintergasp.
There is nothing like taking two multiboxers in and defend Balinda Stonehearth in A/V.
Even if they eventually kill you it's well worth the effort and lots of fun.
with 8 fire elemental all you can smell is burnt horde.

this of couse makes for a nice turtle and can cause you to get some grief from your fellow alliance players who wanted a quick win....

Bolan
08-19-2009, 04:21 PM
My first time in AV with my new shaman team started out fine solo defended galv and pretty much just re took towers the whole game since the main battle caused my fps to die, well when the alliance was down to like 10 reinforcements i read this gem of a comment. "If the fels aren't going to fight we should kick them." Before responding I checked the scoreboard only to find two of my shamans in the top ten and the other three close behind sadly the game ended before I come hit him wit a witty come back.

Owltoid
08-19-2009, 04:23 PM
On the alliance scoreboard I end up with all 5 in the top 10 and usually have 3 in the the 5. The biggest reason is the amount of lowbies in AV for leveling... makes me enjoy it much more :)

Deumus
08-20-2009, 04:57 AM
AV is a good BG for MB.

I go to galv at the beginning and launch my 4 earth elemental to help with tanking. After I go to balinda and try to break the attack by the horde. Retake the towers and graveyard. And finally, I go to Vanngar and defend.

Sometimes I go attack, but it's a bad idea many times. All people follow me and not guard towers. So we loose. I go attack only if we cannot break the horde defense.

4 fire elemental and a lot of chain lightning help :D

heyaz
08-20-2009, 05:05 AM
I stay back at the choke point
recap towers

goes from 20% win chance for horde to about 80% if I do that

Owltoid
08-20-2009, 11:13 AM
AV is a good BG for MB.

I go to galv at the beginning and launch my 4 earth elemental to help with tanking. After I go to balinda and try to break the attack by the horde. Retake the towers and graveyard. And finally, I go to Vanngar and defend.

Sometimes I go attack, but it's a bad idea many times. All people follow me and not guard towers. So we loose. I go attack only if we cannot break the horde defense.

4 fire elemental and a lot of chain lightning help :D

I'm surprised you waste a cooldown on Galv. He usually drops so fast and barely hurts whatever tank is there.

Deumus
08-20-2009, 11:33 AM
I'm surprised you waste a cooldown on Galv. He usually drops so fast and barely hurts whatever tank is there.

You don't play on Eitrigg/Alliance it seems :D

I use this cooldown because healer don't heal tanks, and tanks don't tank the mob. So, I use my earth elemental to save my time XD

gitcho
08-20-2009, 01:34 PM
On the alliance scoreboard I end up with all 5 in the top 10 and usually have 3 in the the 5. The biggest reason is the amount of lowbies in AV for leveling... makes me enjoy it much more http://www.dual-boxing.com/images/smilies/smile.gifOwltoid - I'm running the same rig as you with a diff vid card - i KNOW you've got the horses to fraps ur BG's =) MAKE A VIDEO!!! I'm running 5x shadow priests and have been thinking about getting my druids to 80 ... I would love to see how you handle dps vs survivability in the groups zergs & vs melee ... 5x druids sounds so very interesting to me - WTB videoz =)

stoat
08-20-2009, 01:38 PM
What about when this happens?

http://stoat.org/wow/boxer.jpg

Nothing gets done :(

Owltoid
08-20-2009, 01:51 PM
Owltoid - I'm running the same rig as you with a diff vid card - i KNOW you've got the horses to fraps ur BG's =) MAKE A VIDEO!!! I'm running 5x shadow priests and have been thinking about getting my druids to 80 ... I would love to see how you handle dps vs survivability in the groups zergs & vs melee ... 5x druids sounds so very interesting to me - WTB videoz =)

I'll try to do it in the next week or two. I've never done it before but it's something I eventually want to try. I'm a bit shy to do it since I still don't have basic elements incorporated into my gameplay, such as using roots and cyclone.

I'm not sure how interesting it would be as much of the combat is in towers where it's just mayhem. Usually when I'm running to recap the first tower I try and take a look at how many are defending. If it's just one or two then I just load up with HoTs, run in and nuke. If there are more than 2 then I get the treants out, cast starfall, and spend my time healing whoever they're focusing. I could DPS them down, but with all the twists and turns in the tower is makes it difficult to know what's going on and where. To be honest 3 80s guarding a tower with their head out of their ass can often wipe my group of 5 due to the LOS issues and twists & turns. However, that's rarely the case.

Graveyard capping is usually very easy, though, since most are in the open. One typhoon burst gets rid of all NPC guards (not like they're trouble anyway) and most of the time any defenders can't handle 5 moonkins in the wide open area.

Really, the biggest reason we sometimes lose is because of a lack of tank. I try to find out who the tank is and then tell them do not go in until you have 10 HoTs on you.