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Havelcek
04-11-2009, 10:40 AM
I know, I'm a huge noob and I shouldn't be having any trouble with this guy, but he is just completely owning me. I run a mixed group, using my priest as a dedicated healer. I set them up in a star just like Hachoo does in his video but when the elemental comes out he just wipes my group while I'm trying to heal through it and DPS. Some times he goes straight to the priest and then its over in like 10 seconds. Any tips from anyone who does this with a mixed group? Maybe I'm just a terrible player.

Pally - http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lothar&n=Xerxian
Mage - http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lothar&n=Havelnostra
Shaman - http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lothar&n=Pandemona
Druid - http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lothar&n=Xerxianne
Priest - http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lothar&n=Miradona

Greythan
04-11-2009, 10:48 AM
Just went through the learning curve on this one myself.

Tips.

Most important. Stop DPS on transformations. Get Pally to spot where elemental is emerging and you'll usually pick up aggro right away. That said, be ready to use an avenger's shield, etc. to get aggro. This is a controlled fight so go slow. Once you have aggro on your pally, resume DPS.

Save trinkets, bloodlust, fire elemental, etc. until last elemental phase. This also saves you from blowing them early, wiping, and not having them for your next attempt.

Have four support toons all with strafe left/right mapped to the same key. When the mojo crap is on them just move them 5 yards.

I'm assuming your priest is holy. If so, don't be afraid to use prayer of mending, circle of healing, etc. I'd also map a /use runic healing potion macro for all four support toons in case you need it.

In summary, just take it slow on the transitions to firmly get aggro on tank and this is a pretty easy encounter.

Havelcek
04-11-2009, 11:21 AM
Thanks for that tip. I've never seem to been able to pickup aggro on the elemental so I'll have to work on that.

Dominian
04-11-2009, 11:23 AM
First i would say that you gem to much defence on your tank, 570 defence is a total waste, you could change atleast one of thoose defence gems to stamina or avoidance for better benefits.

Im not a priest expert but you should consider to respec holy for better healing! PoM,circle of healing and prayer of healing is the key to survive the elemental phase.

However the key to win this encounter is nature resistance totem and if you had taken a look on my movie you can see that im not even moving my slaves in the elemental phase. However i see you suffer from having slaves with very low health and poor spell damage but your tank outgear mine by far when i did this encounter! :)

But the key is nature resistance totem!

Remember that they both reset aggro when they emerge, i usualy taunt since you cant rely on avengers shield due to the long cooldown.

Dont use fire elementals use EARTH elementals! They are immune against nature damage and wont get splatted by the pukes of ooze he spits out.. Im not sure if they eat it but the earth elementals will certainly take some pressure of your tank!

spuik
04-11-2009, 11:23 AM
Definitely stop everything for a sec when changing phases and quickly taunt the boss to the tank. Maybe try to use Earth Elemental, he is very good against the boss elemental. Move out of puddles if need be and prioritize on keeping your toons alive. The boss goes down very fast but don't try to squeeze in too much dps on the cost of healing/moving out of puddles. Getting just one cast off every once in a while is enough as long as you don't die.

Coltimar
04-11-2009, 11:45 AM
NR totem is a must, as everyone has said. Another thing to remember is to re-drop it after the elemental disappears the first time. Don't pull the Colossus with Avenger's Shield. In fact, don't use it at all until the elemental. You can get initial aggro easily that way. For the second phase, when Avenger's Shield is on CD, pop your elemental.

Also, consider one of the nice BoE chest upgrades for your priest. Are you doing Chain Heal on the elemental phase? You may need to. Also, drop moonkin form and perhaps blow a tranquility if needed. Go nice and easy for the colossus, then balance nuking and healing for the elemental. I don't recommend moving to avoid the puddles, if you can help it. During the Colossus phase two are you doing Hymn of Hope? Also try dropping your Water Elemental as soon as phase two elemental starts. You will need the mana gen and the nukage!

Just some things to consider. There is a lot to manage with a mixed group. My Pally + Shaman group eats this guy up. Chain Heal x4 ftw!

Multibocks
04-11-2009, 01:05 PM
I find that this fight goes MUCH better when I dont use bloodlust. At all.

Havelcek
04-11-2009, 01:40 PM
Thanks guys, great stuff here. I took him down pretty easily once I slowed down and took my time on the phases. Woot!

Greythan
04-11-2009, 03:26 PM
I find that this fight goes MUCH better when I dont use bloodlust. At all.
I'd agree prior to the last elemental phase. Why you wouldn't pop BL on that last (fourth) phase is beyond me. If you don't need it because you're overgeared sure. But for someone learning the encounter, I'd pop everything after getting aggro on the last phase. Just burns it down faster.

Hachoo
04-11-2009, 10:46 PM
Once you overgear the encounter enough if you pop bloodlust at the very beginning you can kill each phase before he hardly has a chance to swing at you. I can kill him before BL wears off if I pop it at the beginning of the fight. The 3-4 seconds of aggro using a taunt gives my DK is long enough to move to the next phase lol.

Kicksome
04-12-2009, 12:27 AM
This is a tough fight. Make sure you have a key mapped to strafe left and strafe right. Use it during the ele phases.

Make sure you have a NR totem down, very useful.

Worst case, buy some nature absorb pots (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40216#created-by) , they are really cheap to make and absorb 6K damage. It's only like 2 crystalized shadow each, It's a LOT cheaper than wiping. Use them on the 2nd phase. You shouldn't have a problem.

heffner
04-12-2009, 08:03 PM
I have the same class makeup as you do. I also had the exact same problems with this boss. The elemental would go straight for my priest and own him. I am slowly getting better, but for me I was [and still am] having difficulty getting aggro after each phase switch. Just takes some practice [and not forgetting to drop nature resist totems!]. I was pretty drunk the last time I beat him so I don't remember what I did, lol.

Coltimar
04-12-2009, 11:06 PM
Some good advice? No HOTs!

Taliesin
04-13-2009, 09:52 AM
I run with a nearly identical group. My priest is more Holy than Disc, but I don't think that's an issue at all. Honestly, I was tempted to switch her to heavy Disc, but been too lazy.

My strategy is pretty much what others have already said. Spread out (about 15 yards between toons), Nature Resist Totem, mostly group heals on the elemental phases, otherwise big heals on the tank during the golem phases. The key is really just the taunts, as mentioned above. So long as the boss doesn't get a shot at anyone but the tank, then you should be alright. Keep the boss at long range from all the alts so you have as much time to taunt as possible after a transformation. That's my entire strategy; no strafing, no special gimmicks.

Honestly, I've never even used heroism/bloodlust on this boss, but you can if you want. If the healer just can't quite seem to keep up, you can just run all toons forward/back or strafe to move out of the slime every once in a while (only needed on the elemental phases anyways).

Just my two cents.

Ateleiotos
04-13-2009, 04:12 PM
Make sure to position the Golem facing away from your group so the elemental pops as far out as possible and you'll have a couple more seconds to pick him up. Also, when you kill him, don't forget to move your group away from the puddles before you loot him with your main. :pinch:

Havelcek
04-14-2009, 10:06 AM
Like I said, I was able to one-shot this guy all weekend once I took the advice in this thread and just slowed myself down a little.