Gaining XP from warlock pet

[ragawaga]

In my time spent scouring the various WoW forums, I remember reading something recently saying that if a warlock was ungrouped with someone...the demon could help kill a mob but the original tagger get the XP.....eg:

- Me (warlock) is in Northrend with my GF who's playing her rogue....but the characters are not in a group together.
- Rogue tags a mob and starts to do damage.
- Warlock sends in felguard to help with DPS.
- The warlock does NOT engage the mob in any way

Is it the case that the rogue will suffer no loss to XP?

[Kaynin]

This is incorrect.

(I already tried that with shaman totems. :< )

[ragawaga]

As far as I'm aware warlock pets are different from totems. I believe that attacking with a totem is actually treated as the shaman engaging the mob.

An easy way to prove this would be to get a totem to kill a mob without the shaman attacking it at all - if you can loot the mob, then I am correct. If a warlock's demon attacks and kills a mob without anyone else hitting it...then nobody gets to loot it as it's seen as the demon's kill.

[Kaynin]

As far as I'm aware warlock pets are different from totems. I believe that attacking with a totem is actually treated as the shaman engaging the mob.

An easy way to prove this would be to get a totem to kill a mob without the shaman attacking it at all - if you can loot the mob, then I am correct. If a warlock's demon attacks and kills a mob without anyone else hitting it...then nobody gets to loot it as it's seen as the demon's kill.

You can unfortunatly not loot anything killed by totems. :<

I wish they fixed that bug tbh, been around since beta! Very frustrating when boosting. (Though thunderstorm makes up for it now with a viable aoe that actually tags mobs. :> )

[Los]

Hunter bm pets work extremly well for that. Unless it has been fixed ofc. Just tag with the group, and let the out of the group hunter, his pet, kill the mob.

[Spook]

In my time spent scouring the various WoW forums, I remember reading something recently saying that if a warlock was ungrouped with someone...the demon could help kill a mob but the original tagger get the XP.....eg:

- Me (warlock) is in Northrend with my GF who's playing her rogue....but the characters are not in a group together.
- Rogue tags a mob and starts to do damage.
- Warlock sends in felguard to help with DPS.
- The warlock does NOT engage the mob in any way

Is it the case that the rogue will suffer no loss to XP?
What you describe will work, PROVIDED that the rogue is in a party of at least two, and the warlock/hunter is out of the party. Solo, it wont' work.

A way to do it for a solo character is to have cross faction support. A Horde booster kills an Alliance tagged mob (or visa versa), and the solo "tagger" still gets full experience. This would probably NOT be a good idea on a PVP server! :P

[ragawaga]

Does the character grouped with the rogue have to be in proximity? EG, could they be in Orgrimar while the rogue and warlock is in Northrend?

[Spook]

Does the character grouped with the rogue have to be in proximity? EG, could they be in Orgrimar while the rogue and warlock is in Northrend?Good question. I don't know. I'll have to check that out this evening, unless someone else answers before that.

[Taliesin]

Does the character grouped with the rogue have to be in proximity? EG, could they be in Orgrimar while the rogue and warlock is in Northrend?Good question. I don't know. I'll have to check that out this evening, unless someone else answers before that.

This sounds like a RAF question, but I don't see any mention of RAF in the tread so far. If it is, then no. RAF bonus is only awarded if the two accounts are within kill credit range of each other.

Also, I don't think that not getting loot rights when a totem single-handedly kills a mob is a "bug". When the game first came online, Blizzard started to quickly nerf all these passive xps gaining systems. Hunters used to just AFK in a spot and put the pet on aggressive and would get xps. Shamans didn't really have that advantage (originally only 2 mins per totem), but I think they started nerfing credit for anything were the player themselves didn't cause at least some damage.

[Taliesin]

In my time spent scouring the various WoW forums, I remember reading something recently saying that if a warlock was ungrouped with someone...the demon could help kill a mob but the original tagger get the XP.....eg:

- Me (warlock) is in Northrend with my GF who's playing her rogue....but the characters are not in a group together.
- Rogue tags a mob and starts to do damage.
- Warlock sends in felguard to help with DPS.
- The warlock does NOT engage the mob in any way

Is it the case that the rogue will suffer no loss to XP?

I haven't confirmed this, but I think the principle that Blizzard worked out is that if you are within a certain level range of the higher level toon (like 9 levels), then you would still get full credit for the kill. Outside of this range, you only get a smaller percentage of the regular xps, scaling based on the level range difference. A level 80 warlock (or even pet) doing almost all the damage for, say, a level 30 rogue would mean very little xps for the rogue. A warlock pet is still considered a "player" for the purposes of calculations.

[Greythan]

As long as your boostee is in a group, you will get full exp with this method regardless of level differential between the booster (Warlock) and the boostees.

That said, I quit this method pretty early and went to instance boosting. Spent a ton of time in SM, etc using Warlock AE (Seed of Corruption). Much faster.

I boosted my foursome with my Warlock (who was 70). By the early 60's, I just grouped the Warlock and did instances/quests. It was simpler at that point and I didn't need the modest increase in non-instance mob-kill exp rates anymore.

[Taliesin]

Same here. I boosted in instances so I didn't have to worry about tricks and the legality of it all. I think min level for Deadmines was like level 11-12 to get in, then boosted them up through 54 (Deadmines -> Stockade -> RFK -> RFD -> Zul'Farrak -> Sunken Temple). I stopped there because it was becoming less time efficient to instance boost with a Kara equipped 70 mage, at that time.

I boosted 2 toons at a time, and only took 3 nights for each group to go from 1 - 54 this way.

[ragawaga]

I wasn't going to be using it as a means to boost my own characters, I've been doing that just by boosting RAF linked accounts in instances.

It was to help my GF level a bit quicker in Northrend. She's trying to beat one of the guildies to 80 - both are rogues....but the other guildie has his lvl 70 welfare PvP gear...so has a wee bit of an advantage.

I was wiped after work yesterday, so didn't try it out.

[Los]

Think that rushing her through quests up to 73/4 would be fasted, after that she can tag, you can kill, she should then reap full xp when the mobs are still green to you.

[ragawaga]

Think that rushing her through quests up to 73/4 would be fasted, after that she can tag, you can kill, she should then reap full xp when the mobs are still green to you.

So if she tags a mob that's green to me....and I kill it while out of the group....she will still get 100% of the XP from the kill as though she killed it herself?

[Taliesin]

I say just try it and find out. Let her kill a 70 by herself and note the xps. Have her just wand another one and let the rogue do the rest and compare the xps. Should only take you a minute to find out if it works.

[Los]

Im not sure but i think a 70 is gray for a 80, but just take a 75/74

[Taliesin]

Im not sure but i think a 70 is gray for a 80, but just take a 75/74

My bad, I got the characters reversed. I was thinking the rogue was the 80.

Just reverse the classes in my last post, and that's what I was trying to say.

[Spook]

Does the character grouped with the rogue have to be in proximity? EG, could they be in Orgrimar while the rogue and warlock is in Northrend?
I just did a quick test. With two toons in a party, the toon with the pet out of party, the two toons get exactly the same experience for just tag and run, letting the pet kill it as they did when they killed it. Still in the party, but remove the second toon a ways off, and the remaining toon gets full solo experience on the pet kill, the far toon gets none. Move the second toon farther away, and the remaining toon gets almost nothing when the pet kills.

So, for what you intend, the pet trick wouldn't really work very well. Better to instance boost, or party up and take the kill experience nerf to get quests done faster.