View Full Version : Utgarde Keep: DKs Take Zero Skill
Zerocool2024
01-28-2009, 03:14 AM
Here is another video from "DKs Take Zero Skill". This is the 5th movie in my series and I'm still learning Vegas, so bare with me (I promise it will only get better).
I tried some new things in this video (really, just to test things out and see what I can do to improve on it) By the time the video was done and I was reviewing it, I noticed certain points in the video that I wished I had done differently, also, the timing on certain things were slower, or faster than I had wanted... It's all good though, because I will figure out it sooner or later for the next videos.
Also, sorry for the time screw up, said 10amish EST (I don't live in the EST anymore) whoops...
Viddyou HD ('http://www.viddyou.com/viddstream?videoid=55227')
Enjoy! :thumbsup:
dasvorbei
01-28-2009, 06:16 AM
hi,
I voted for utgarde, because the "old" content will not be a problem, but I want to see how your toons are dealing utgarde.
I'm very interested so keep'em coming ;)
and thx for your effort to make moviez at all.
greetz,
dasvorbei
Zerocool2024
01-28-2009, 12:08 PM
I'm not even 100% sure how they survive... It's funny, I will being using the toon with the most Defense as the "main" tank and of course, one of the other toons will get off some decent hits and pull aggro, so I will try and get it back, but of course, me getting it back tells the other 3 toons to get it as well... lol. So here I am spamming attacks and tuants to get them back, and the other toons yank him right back. Sometimes its a good thing because the damage taken is going between all 5 toons, and not just one. But I made one better for the specific reason of OHNOESHESGOINGTODIE and I have him take the aggro because he should "take" the damage better. But he takes the damage harder than all of them. Not sure why, maybe it's because they have higher Parry/Dodge.
Honestly, I used IBF and Vampiric Blood a lot. Only because it's a Min timer, and I know when to use it and when not too. I have a feeling that with Northern, I'm gonna have to use it more
often because of the damage the mobs throw out.
Thanks for the encouragement, I will keep making them till I get told to stop, lol. :thumbup:
Multibocks
01-29-2009, 04:04 AM
definitely keep making these! I watch them at work to pass the time as its good to see how other people approach a problem. I would like to see how you did Ingvar. I couldnt do him at 71 with 4 DKs and a Druid healer. Once I hit 72 I fixed my macros for healing and was able to take him out. With those macros I might have beat him at 71, dunno.
Zerocool2024
01-29-2009, 12:49 PM
Heh, well, it seems like the numbers are pointing towards UK. I put the 3rd option in there for the hell of it, *I will kill you all in the night!*
I enjoy making them, and only to now am I actually starting to understand Vegas (Not like the UK movie is going to be the "end all movies of movies" but it will be different from the rest, lol) Just adding effects and random certain things to make it a little more interesting. It's pretty hard to link up songs with movies that are not PVP. PVE is sort of ok, but if you are showing how the dungeon looks and how you did it, it's a bit hard to find the one song that links up with something you are doing.
I did Nexus the other night and only lost 2 people on the stupid dragon... I might could have lived if I had remembered to use Lichborne (Draw upon unholy energy to become undead for 15 sec. While undead, you are immune to Charm, Fear and Sleep effects, and your horrifying visage causes melee attacks to have an additional 25% chance to miss you.) I picked it up and only used it once I think (and that was by accident).
I'm probably going to redo my spec, keep my blood, but going to fix a few things. If I can handle both UK and Nexus at my current level with my spec, then I hope my modified one will make it even easier.
I should (hopefully) have most of the movie done tonight (UK that is) and then I can start on Nexus and Mana/Crypt. 8o
Zerocool2024
01-30-2009, 12:41 AM
Shameless bump for edit...
Zerocool2024
01-30-2009, 02:00 PM
Shamless Bump for Video update :) :whistling:
Zerocool2024
01-30-2009, 05:14 PM
Hey, thanks for the comment :)
Multibocks
01-30-2009, 06:37 PM
Very nice editing, I might suggest that having the graphic each time you do your ground AoE is kinda overkill after the 5th time or so. It was a pretty cool effect though! I find it interesting that you just eat the frontal cone AOE that Ingvar does... on my slaves it will drop them to 30% health so you must have massive health on your slaves or Im doing something wrong. I had to make a seperate movement key for this boss alone. I bound the tank's forward movement to my down arrow key so that when he charges up I run my main through him and the slaves back up in the same direction. It gets hectic at times, but once I made that key change I one shot him.
I also noticed you actually run your main in frost presence, do you slaves run in that too?
Zerocool2024
01-30-2009, 07:16 PM
Very nice editing, I might suggest that having the graphic each time you do your ground AoE is kinda overkill after the 5th time or so. It was a pretty cool effect though! I find it interesting that you just eat the frontal cone AOE that Ingvar does... on my slaves it will drop them to 30% health so you must have massive health on your slaves or Im doing something wrong. I had to make a seperate movement key for this boss alone. I bound the tank's forward movement to my down arrow key so that when he charges up I run my main through him and the slaves back up in the same direction. It gets hectic at times, but once I made that key change I one shot him.
I also noticed you actually run your main in frost presence, do you slaves run in that too?Lol, yeah, it a was a pain in the ass doing it so many times. You can easily tell that after so many times the Rumble gets better than worse, and the Invert color skew got better than worse (it really takes patience) lol. I hope to figure out some sort of method that suits me for my movies, (this was just a test to see what it would come out like and what people would say to add or take away).
I might have had IBF/Vamp on... though I am not sure.
Yeah, I think I had accidently put the Blood Aura on at one point in another run and I was getting my face smashed in. But since you already get the AOE aura from talents, you don't need to have the self aura on.
Frost Presence:
The death knight takes on the presence of frost, increasing total health by 10%, armor contribution from items by 80%, and reducing spell damage taken by 15%. Increases threat generated. Only one Presence may be active at a time.
Blood Presence:
Strengthens the Death Knight with the presence of blood, increasing damage by 15% and healing the Death Knight by 4% of damage dealt. Only damage dealt to targets that grant experience or honor can trigger this heal. Only one Presence may be active at a time.
I have all of them use Frost. I don't know how the run would work with the other 4 being Blood. It seems like in my Dungeon runs, the aggro bounces all over the place, though I do tend to keep it on my main. So they might take to much damage if they don't have Frost up... I will test it out tonight and see what happens. I don't even know if Party Blood and Self Blood even stack. The extra 15% to damage might be worth it, but then again, I think it's all situational.
After work, I will get some numbers going and see what I can come up with.
Furystrike
01-30-2009, 07:32 PM
No, Blood Presence and Blood Aura do not stack. You are doing the best combo for a 5-boxer. Blood Aura for the 5x Health and Frost presence individually for the tanking aspect. Nice video by the way. :thumbsup: I am too high now to go back to Utgarde until Heroic. Ingvar is a pain though.
Zerocool2024
01-31-2009, 12:45 PM
Hey, thanks :) Yeah, I downed him the first time, but it was pure luck that I lived. No skill on that one, it was "OHGOD OHGOD OHGOD" *screaming incoherent words* (Lol, to be honest, the first thought that came to mind was "hahahaha, I beat Fury to him") lol, sorry. Not trying to compeat with you, it just helps a little bit when two poeple are doing the same thing. I try a little bit harder :thumbsup:
Have you tried Azjol-Nerub yet? As soon as my toons hit 72 I am going to attempt it, just wondering if you had tried it. I didn't want to waste my time if it was diffuclt for you than it's going to be hella hard for me, then I may wait till 73.
Furystrike
02-01-2009, 01:29 AM
Hey, thanks :) Yeah, I downed him the first time, but it was pure luck that I lived. No skill on that one, it was "OHGOD OHGOD OHGOD" *screaming incoherent words* (Lol, to be honest, the first thought that came to mind was "hahahaha, I beat Fury to him") lol, sorry. Not trying to compeat with you, it just helps a little bit when two poeple are doing the same thing. I try a little bit harder :thumbsup:
Have you tried Azjol-Nerub yet? As soon as my toons hit 72 I am going to attempt it, just wondering if you had tried it. I didn't want to waste my time if it was diffuclt for you than it's going to be hella hard for me, then I may wait till 73.Funny you should mention that. I have been farming that zone for the tank rings that the final boss drops. I like the zone because it's very easy, super quick and its easy for exp/stone keeper's shards. I will post a video of it just for giggles for you. It's a cake walk though. You almost have to TRY to die. =) 15 mins, 3 bosses, in and out....reset all instances, head back around to the front, kill a few groups of alliance 80's and rinse/repeat. =) Good times.
Multibocks
02-02-2009, 11:45 AM
What is this xp you speak of? I believe only the bosses have xp in this instance. Hey Fury whats your cast sequence for your DKs? I assume its something like Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Pestilence, then Oblits?
Zerocool2024
02-02-2009, 12:14 PM
What is this xp you speak of? I believe only the bosses have xp in this instance. Hey Fury whats your cast sequence for your DKs? I assume its something like Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Pestilence, then Oblits?Lol, I am getting pretty good EXP, all the mobs give EXP... The only ones that don't are the critters just before the free fall, and the critters the first boss summons.
I ran in there and cleared the first boss no problems, but the second boss, lol, before he was done clearing out the spiders attacking him, he was a half health and I was like "score!" ran up, jumped him, and downed him before he could get his AOE dot off (dpsed him really quick) but then lost 1 because of all the spiders. Second attempt I died (tried it again, and this time he got his dot off just as I attacked him, all my toons got webbed, then aoe gas thing)... I died, I was sad.
I like the 3rd boss. He is pretty fun. easy as hell, but fun (4th run through got second ring and picked it up with the same guy) *DOH*
I changed my spec up abit with one of my toons Sux ('http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Durotan&n=Sux') <-- still working on it, but I had her in Frost presence and she pulled and kept aggro the whole time, could not keep it off her. So I switched her over to unholy presence and it was all fine and dandy. In the end, she pulls away even with my main toon tanking and using Rune Strike whenever it's up she still pulled away and kept the lead the whole time. Improved Icy Talons does wonders for my group. Went in and worked Nexus pretty hard with it. I may swtich another toon over for the DPS, because with that much of a boost from one, then 2 are going to make this really easy, lol.
beyond-tec
02-02-2009, 12:30 PM
very very strange to see you clearing the whole instance with 5x 70 DKs (and so without a healer)
while I'm wiping in there with a lvl 72 specced tank, a lvl 72 specced healer and 3 lvl 72 damagedealers.
(pala, 4xshaman combo).
Zerocool2024
02-02-2009, 12:50 PM
very very strange to see you clearing the whole instance with 5x 70 DKs (and so without a healer)
while I'm wiping in there with a lvl 72 specced tank, a lvl 72 specced healer and 3 lvl 72 damagedealers.
(pala, 4xshaman combo).You mind giving me the toons name and server or their armory to check out their gear and so forth, maybe I/others could help you.
Multibocks
02-02-2009, 01:29 PM
What is this xp you speak of? I believe only the bosses have xp in this instance. Hey Fury whats your cast sequence for your DKs? I assume its something like Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Pestilence, then Oblits?Lol, I am getting pretty good EXP, all the mobs give EXP... The only ones that don't are the critters just before the free fall, and the critters the first boss summons.
I ran in there and cleared the first boss no problems, but the second boss, lol, before he was done clearing out the spiders attacking him, he was a half health and I was like "score!" ran up, jumped him, and downed him before he could get his AOE dot off (dpsed him really quick) but then lost 1 because of all the spiders. Second attempt I died (tried it again, and this time he got his dot off just as I attacked him, all my toons got webbed, then aoe gas thing)... I died, I was sad.
I like the 3rd boss. He is pretty fun. easy as hell, but fun (4th run through got second ring and picked it up with the same guy) *DOH*
I changed my spec up abit with one of my toons Sux ('http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Durotan&n=Sux') <-- still working on it, but I had her in Frost presence and she pulled and kept aggro the whole time, could not keep it off her. So I switched her over to unholy presence and it was all fine and dandy. In the end, she pulls away even with my main toon tanking and using Rune Strike whenever it's up she still pulled away and kept the lead the whole time. Improved Icy Talons does wonders for my group. Went in and worked Nexus pretty hard with it. I may swtich another toon over for the DPS, because with that much of a boost from one, then 2 are going to make this really easy, lol.
Havent done an instance for a while, but at 72 I was getting around 800-900 dps per DK (non tank), is that what you guys are seeing? Also I saw some 3k hits in this video, wtf I dont think my tank has ever hit that hard! What was that?
What's the song that starts during the Skarbald the Constructor fight? It's an excellent choice for ambiance.
Zerocool2024
02-02-2009, 03:20 PM
What is this xp you speak of? I believe only the bosses have xp in this instance. Hey Fury whats your cast sequence for your DKs? I assume its something like Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Pestilence, then Oblits?
Lol, I am getting pretty good EXP, all the mobs give EXP... The only ones that don't are the critters just before the free fall, and the critters the first boss summons.
I ran in there and cleared the first boss no problems, but the second boss, lol, before he was done clearing out the spiders attacking him, he was a half health and I was like "score!" ran up, jumped him, and downed him before he could get his AOE dot off (dpsed him really quick) but then lost 1 because of all the spiders. Second attempt I died (tried it again, and this time he got his dot off just as I attacked him, all my toons got webbed, then aoe gas thing)... I died, I was sad.
I like the 3rd boss. He is pretty fun. easy as hell, but fun (4th run through got second ring and picked it up with the same guy) *DOH*
I changed my spec up abit with one of my toons Well, I think my DPS bounces around because of me trying to control the fight, and moving the mobs around to get them to be more in front of me/my other toons so that if they pull agro, they have a chance at a parry/dodge so I lose DPS as I maneuver them around. It ranges from 600 to 900 but it bounces so much.
If I test on a Dummy, I get my toons lined up and do a Horn of winter, then start my attack, I keep spamming attacks/death coil during the 2 Minutes, once it hits 0, I stop.
Dps will be around 900+ on all toons, and my Damage done will be in the 100,000 to 115,000. This of course, is hitting one target with it also hitting a second (Heart attack/Howling Blast), with a single target, it’s a less, but not by much.
All of my DKs get 3K hits. The 3K hits will be off of Rune Strike with usually Obliterate and or Heart Strike (for added damage on 2 mobs) The highest yet (72) was 3275, it’s not-common, but also, not-uncommon. Now with a 32/31 in the group, my DPS jumped about 200+ more. It’s amazing to be honest. I think it shaved about 5 to 10 minutes off my run in nexus. With Signet of the Dark Brotherhood and ('http://www.wowwiki.com/Signet_of_the_Dark_Brotherhood')Horn of Winter ('http://www.wowwiki.com/Horn_of_Winter') and also add the talents Toughness ('http://www.wowwiki.com/Toughness_%28Death_knight%29') and Bladed armor ('http://www.wowwiki.com/Bladed_Armor') my Power jumps to 2900+ = my huge hits. Now if you look a little further down the frost tree I am going to pick up Unbreakable Armor ('http://www.wowwiki.com/Unbreakable_Armor') which is going to make me hit like Godzilla. I will get roughly 4500 more Armor. Added in Bladed armor and I get about 125 or so more Power to my already 2900+ power.
What's the song that starts during the Skarbald the Constructor fight? It's an excellent choice for ambiance.
Also, the name of the song is Angel by Massive attack
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