Unable to destroy Sam Deathwalker (yet)

[Prepared]

Soon your time will be here Sam! But for the moment, you lucked out with the recent patch because we can't create a Death Knight on your realm. But soon, your time will be here! Sam Deathwalker will fall!

[zanthor]

Soon your time will be here Sam! But for the moment, you lucked out with the recent patch because we can't create a Death Knight on your realm. But soon, your time will be here! Sam Deathwalker will fall!Dude seriously, like he's gonna be logged in long enough for you to decimate him.

[Bigfish]

How can kill that which has no life?

[suicidesspyder]

Yea i thought the patch stated you could now on any relm as long as the account had one lvl 55 hmmm or is it my dang eyes playing tricks on me. Sheesh im getting to old need some dual-boxing reading glasses grrrrr.

[Hachoo]

Is Sam's realm relatively new? I'm guessing the rules still apply where if you can't transfer a char to the realm you can't create a DK there either as new realms would then just have hundreds of level 55 DKs popping up before the first non DK could get to level 2.

[Prepared]

How can kill that which has no life?

Somebody had to say it. :D

Any why can't we create DKs?

Actually, we can create them on his realm. I believe his realm is Ner'zhul. I just created a death knight there. Not sure why they are saying we can't.

[Prepared]

Yes, it is confirmed, Sam Deathwalkers realm is Ner'zhul and we CAN create a Death Knight there! SAM!! HERE I COME BUDDY, your TIME IS NOW! :-)

[Hachoo]

Actually, I was right, but thats not actually the reason. Blue post follows:

It was anticipated that with the release of the current patch, 3.0.8, players would be able to create a new death knight on any realm within their region. Unfortunately, due to unforeseen circumstances, we are not able to make this available as of yet. We do anticipate making this available in the near future and will do our best to keep everyone informed of when this becomes available.

Please keep in mind that when implemented restrictions will still apply to new, non-transfer realms such that death knights cannot be created on those realms until you level a character to level 55 on that realm or until transfer restrictions are removed.

If you have any further questions on creating a death knight, please see the FAQ.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13392160286&sid=1

[Shaitan256]

Please make Movies or Screenshots :)

Can't create on US servers -.- poor sam, kick their asses xD

[Xar]

Actually, I was right, but thats not actually the reason. Blue post follows:

It was anticipated that with the release of the current patch, 3.0.8, players would be able to create a new death knight on any realm within their region. Unfortunately, due to unforeseen circumstances, we are not able to make this available as of yet. We do anticipate making this available in the near future and will do our best to keep everyone informed of when this becomes available.

Please keep in mind that when implemented restrictions will still apply to new, non-transfer realms such that death knights cannot be created on those realms until you level a character to level 55 on that realm or until transfer restrictions are removed.

If you have any further questions on creating a death knight, please see the FAQ.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13392160286&sid=1

So once again they sold us a feature - and pulled it at the last minute. (remember, this was supposed to be a WotLK launch feature)

Seriously - this is getting old.Edit: I was able to create a new DK on a realm where I have no other toons.

[Shaitan256]

Haha, I guess Housing comes first -.- UH!! bad word ^^

[Coltimar]

Um, I did this today. I have a DK on the server I play on and I made one on Archimode (or however it's spelled).

[Vyndree]

Um, I did this today. I have a DK on the server I play on and I made one on Archimode (or however it's spelled).

O RLY?!

[Hachoo]

Hmm, more tests? That blue post above was from today and another blue post pointed to it stating that cross realm DKs weren't implemented. You're sure you don't already have a char on archimonde 55+?

[Wilbur]

On my signal, unleash hell
http://www.solarnavigator.net/films_movies_actors/actors_films_images/gladiator_roman_legions_general_maximus.jpg

[Prepared]

Hmm, more tests? That blue post above was from today and another blue post pointed to it stating that cross realm DKs weren't implemented. You're sure you don't already have a char on archimonde 55+?


Go try it ! It works, as I stated in my post, I have already created 12 death knights on Ner'Zhul. I logged out because I decided to create 40 of them instead, but now I cannot get connected. Looks like the login server is down. /lol

[Multibocks]

Hey prepared, what leve is your army now? Is there some blog I can read up on it? Curious to see whats up.

[Prepared]

Hey prepared, what leve is your army now? Is there some blog I can read up on it? Curious to see whats up.

I post here in these forums from time to time. I don't really have an official blog any where other than these forums. But currently my 38 man team has 32 level 70 Shamans and 6 level 77's. I'm really working on my 10 man team at the moment and they are level 77. I'm too busy to keep up with a blog any where. :-)

The best way to find out where I'm at is on the Armory: We Are Prepared ('http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Aegwynn&n=We+Are+Prepared&p=1')

You can also find a post here about me: Prepared ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=14611&pageNo=1')

If you go to google.com and enter 'wow 36 boxer', you will find over 3000 links about me. Not sure why the amazement but everyone seems to have an opinion :-)


There you go. :-)

[Shaitan256]

On my signal, unleash hell
http://www.solarnavigator.net/films_movies_actors/actors_films_images/gladiator_roman_legions_general_maximus.jpg

wasn't that a quote of 9:0 Live from Slipknot? I think it was the song Surfacing :)

Ok maybe it was just in gladiator like this? only German version seen xD

[Wilbur]

Its from Gladiator :)

[Shaitan256]

Its from Gladiator :)

Have too see The "Original" hope it's on the dvd ^^

[Wilbur]

Beginning scene, where they slaughter the forest people.

[Shaitan256]

yeah where their slaughtering the Germans xDDD Or are they called different back then? (would translate it like this. and location would be right but not the time ...)
You can see it (that it is in the beginning) because he's mounted and he has his coat (this fury thing on his back)

@ Prepared:
Seems like your one of the Famoused Boxers :) maybe the one famous :) Good luck with your 10 Man stuff ^^

[Sam DeathWalker]

Only teh PROUD or the FOOLISH dare challenge the MIGHTY DEATHWALKER!

So I get killed, what thats a 10 minute CR run - this game is so easy. LoL dont even have to do a CR, just take the deribility loss, hearthstone to back to shatt then go wherever I want ... by the time you find me again it 2 hours later ... Ill just go to thunderbluff and work on trade skills and auction house for a few hours ...

Yes Im on Ner'zhul, a PvP server.

[Vyndree]

Only teh PROUD or the FOOLISH dare challenge the MIGHTY DEATHWALKER

So I get killed, what thats a 10 minute CR run - this game is so easy. LoL dont even have to do a CR, just take the deribility loss, hearthstone to back to shatt then go wherever I want ... by the time you find me again it 2 hours later ... Ill just go to thunderbluff and work on trade skills and auction house for a few hours ...

A good gank has people waiting at your bodies and at the nearest graveyard.

Yes, this has happened to me.

Lrn2PvPserver ;)

[Sam DeathWalker]

Then I log and write on the forums or come up with new macros, or read about new quests ...

Im from Sullon Zek, the gankers there makes any others in any other games look like bluebie noobs lol ... Speedd trained the other two teams day and and day out for years. I died to level 50's when I was level 10 ... One time I had like one of my guys lose two levels cause I couldn't get back to my bodyies. Nothing is even close to Sullon Zek.

Better get me now cause in a few months or so what you call a gank I'll call a free pull.

[Tasty]

Only teh PROUD or the FOOLISH dare challenge the MIGHTY DEATHWALKER!

So I get killed, what thats a 10 minute CR run - this game is so easy. LoL dont even have to do a CR, just take the deribility loss, hearthstone to back to shatt then go wherever I want ... by the time you find me again it 2 hours later ... Ill just go to thunderbluff and work on trade skills and auction house for a few hours ...

Not suggesting he do this but prepared could split his army in half. Leave 20 at the res person and 20 at your corpses

Just one other funny - you mention running away right after saying only the foolish or proud challenge the mighty you :P

Anyway goodluck with any boxing encounters you may endure the next few days sam :) hopefully all goes well for you.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Why would I fight an obviously superior force. Anyone (will maybe not anyone who dosnt have toons over level 45 I guess, I killed a level 37 mage two days ago (why would he attack me lol) instantly) can kill me now its no big deal. Wait a few months or a year and see what happens then lol.

But hey I picked a PvP server for a reason.

[Vyndree]

Actually, I was right, but thats not actually the reason. Blue post follows:

It was anticipated that with the release of the current patch, 3.0.8, players would be able to create a new death knight on any realm within their region. Unfortunately, due to unforeseen circumstances, we are not able to make this available as of yet. We do anticipate making this available in the near future and will do our best to keep everyone informed of when this becomes available.

Please keep in mind that when implemented restrictions will still apply to new, non-transfer realms such that death knights cannot be created on those realms until you level a character to level 55 on that realm or until transfer restrictions are removed.

If you have any further questions on creating a death knight, please see the FAQ.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13392160286&sid=1


Iono what they're smokin, but there's definitely 5 Vyndree's on Ner'zhul as of 5 minutes ago.
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/2729/wowscrnshot012009175858oa3.jpg

Apparently "Vyndree" was taken -- so I might have a char on Ner'zhul already, but certainly not 55+ and certainly not on these accounts (perhaps on my 6th account? The realm ner'zhul sounds familiar -- I might've made an alt to chat with a buddy from work or somesuch)

[Coltimar]

Hmm, more tests? That blue post above was from today and another blue post pointed to it stating that cross realm DKs weren't implemented. You're sure you don't already have a char on archimonde 55+?While I do have a ton of 55+ toons, I am certain that I have never even logged into that server.

[suicidesspyder]

Dude my guild shat themselves last night. I logged over to say hi to sam right, and ten of my guildies came over with me. I said you think what i do is nutz now do a /who 32-34 shaman and tell me what you think. All i heard on wow was WTFF are you serious is that one person what does he have a super computer lol. But they all gave you props gl in your endeavors man.

[Tasty]

Why would I fight an obviously superior force. Anyone (will maybe not anyone who dosnt have toons over level 45 I guess, I killed a level 37 mage two days ago (why would he attack me lol) instantly) can kill me now its no big deal. Wait a few months or a year and see what happens then lol.

But hey I picked a PvP server for a reason.

(why would he attack me lol)

You'll find that happens a lot while boxing. I've never quite fully understood the whole 'attack them even though It's a guaranteed death wish' mentality, but I've never faced a boxer with a solo turn. Could be that it would make for a fun challenge i guess :)

[Akeldema]

Actually, I was right, but thats not actually the reason. Blue post follows:

It was anticipated that with the release of the current patch, 3.0.8, players would be able to create a new death knight on any realm within their region. Unfortunately, due to unforeseen circumstances, we are not able to make this available as of yet. We do anticipate making this available in the near future and will do our best to keep everyone informed of when this becomes available.

Please keep in mind that when implemented restrictions will still apply to new, non-transfer realms such that death knights cannot be created on those realms until you level a character to level 55 on that realm or until transfer restrictions are removed.

If you have any further questions on creating a death knight, please see the FAQ.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13392160286&sid=1


Iono what they're smokin, but there's definitely 5 Vyndree's on Ner'zhul as of 5 minutes ago.Blizzard post on the wow fourms

"As of the shortly before Wrath launch time, the plan for Death Knight ('http://www.wowinsider.com/category/death-knight') character creation was as follows: If you have a level 55 or greater character on any realm, You can create one DK per realm on any realm you like. You can't, of course, create DKs of the opposite faction on a PvP server on which you already have characters. Since the expansion launched, though, due to technical limitations, it has only been possible to create a DK on servers on which you have a 55+.
3.0.8 ('http://www.wowinsider.com/tag/patch-3.0.8') was supposed to ease this restriction, returning to the original design of DK unlocking being acount-wide rather than server-wide. However, "due to unforeseen circumstances," this change was not fully executed. Some people are able to create DKs on any realm as intended (myself included), but some are not."

[Zub]

The mage 37 might have believed you were a farming bot, just going around killing mobs in a big circle or something.
In that case he would have been able to kill your guys easily, as bots probably dont have a very good pvp defense AI. I guess he found out you weren't a bot.

[Tasty]

I guess he found out you weren't a bot.
Haven't had such a good laugh all week lol :D

[glo]

Only teh PROUD or the FOOLISH dare challenge the MIGHTY DEATHWALKER!

So I get killed, what thats a 10 minute CR run - this game is so easy. LoL dont even have to do a CR, just take the deribility loss, hearthstone to back to shatt then go wherever I want ... by the time you find me again it 2 hours later ... Ill just go to thunderbluff and work on trade skills and auction house for a few hours ...

Yes Im on Ner'zhul, a PvP server.If they know what they are doing you don't get to spirit rez.

Pro tip: many on this forum know what they are doing.

It may not be possible to make you level any slower then you already are but I'm willing to give it a try ;)

[algol]

Pro tip: many on this forum know what they are doing.
Given that the majority probably got into it after knowing what they were doing so well with the solo game that they needed something to spice up the relationship to keep their interest up? Yeah. Just a bit. :D

PS, one NElf Knight on Sam's server. The others once KC updates my license, I'm too lazy to do it without my login & window management.

[glo]

It'll be awhile before I get to say hi. I was using the beta client and this patch won't update it :(

[RobinGBrown]

I wish I was on US servers.

Kick his ego all over Hillsbrad for me will ya!

[Stealthy]

I am offically branding this thread

STORM IN A TEACUP!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0EGOu24-liQ/SEKf7vGG47I/AAAAAAAAACI/PTmqlvt8RdM/s320/storm.jpg
Nothing to see here...move along.

[turbonapkin]

mmm... stormalicious...

[Fuzzyboy]

I love how every thread relating to Sam reaches at least 10 pages! :P

[badashh]

Hey Prepared, Were you able to do the PVP dailies in Grizzly hills with a raid? If you can I bet that is your fastest way to level all your characters together. The reason i think it is a possibility is you don't get exp when you kill the mobs, but you do for the quest turn in. You could try it with your 6. Just a thought.

[Talamarr]

Hey Prepared, Were you able to do the PVP dailies in Grizzly hills with a raid? If you can I bet that is your fastest way to level all your characters together. The reason i think it is a possibility is you don't get exp when you kill the mobs, but you do for the quest turn in. You could try it with your 6. Just a thought.

Just a quick counter-point. You can't do the booterang quest when in a raid and you get no xp for hitting the peons; so, that's not necessarily an indicator. You just don't get any credit when you hit the peons. I spent a looooong time trying to figure out wtf was going on one night some time ago. I then realized I was still in a raid from the previous night.

I'm still curious about the Grizzy Hills quests; you should also be able to test it with any group size: just convert to raid.

[Tonuss]

If they know what they are doing you don't get to spirit rez.

Pro tip: many on this forum know what they are doing.

It may not be possible to make you level any slower then you already are but I'm willing to give it a try ;)Sam has a point, though. If I am not mistaken, the Sullon Zek server in EQ was free-for-all PvP. This meant that anyone of any level could gank you just about anywhere, once you were level 6. This includes your own faction and even your own race. If they could get you to die to a mob you wouldn't lose durability... you would lose experience after level 10 or 11, and leveling in EQ was painful enough without that. A person who ganked you could loot your coin and one equipped item, as well. And there was no spirit res-- when you died, you appeared at your spawn point (what would be your hearthstone location in WoW) with none of your items or money, which were still on your corpse. You had to get to your corpse and loot your items and money. "Corpse-camping" in Everquest takes on a very different meaning than it does in WoW.

In WoW what he loses is a bit of coin, by comparison. Being ganked may cost him a lot of lost time, but it simply isn't as painful as it would've been in EQ. You can certainly make his life extremely miserable if someone is always online when he tries to play, but you've got to do more than gank him a few times to make it worse than it was in EQ.

[elsegundo]

i would deathgrip his characters one at a time until he realizes he's missing a few. then i'll mount up and outrun him. just for fun sam. just for fun. =]

[Tonuss]

i would deathgrip his characters one at a time until he realizes he's missing a few. then i'll mount up and outrun him. just for fun sam. just for fun. =]lol

I hope whoever does all of this remembers to FRAPS it. :P

[Zub]

Seeing how Sam is apparently immune to all of the hate posts, i'm pretty sure you guys will be tired of ganking him before he even gets anywhere near annoyed with it.

[Wilbur]

So? It'll still be a shitload of fun for us.

Getting to max level in EQ was a peice of piss if you weren't totally retarded. If it takes over 36 hours played then you are officially dumb.

[Boylston]

Thread is coming up on 24 hours old and still no one has posted a Screenshot of a dead Sam. I'm very disappointed.

If his guys are in the mid 30s now, time is running out before they reach L50 or so and become a contender for a 5xFreshie DK team. Hurry now, don't wait until 2011 for him to get there!

[elsegundo]

Thread is coming up on 24 hours old and still no one has posted a Screenshot of a dead Sam. I'm very disappointed.

If his guys are in the mid 30s now, time is running out before they reach L50 or so and become a contender for a 5xFreshie DK team. Hurry now, don't wait until 2011 for him to get there!he plays when i sleep. what the heck can i do really?

[algol]

I wonder how good Sam's "spread out" functionality is...

[Wilbur]

I wonder how good Sam's "spread out" functionality is...
I doubt he's got into the 'advanced' Multiboxing topics yet.

[Yamio]

Ouch

[glo]

Thread is coming up on 24 hours old and still no one has posted a Screenshot of a dead Sam. I'm very disappointed.

If his guys are in the mid 30s now, time is running out before they reach L50 or so and become a contender for a 5xFreshie DK team. Hurry now, don't wait until 2011 for him to get there!We can't kill him until he logs in.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Waiting for the all the patch stuff to cool down, moving 8 toons to different accounts ($200 lol), and installing 4 more motherboards. And have to see about the macaroon workarounds ... So it will be like 4 days before you can try and kill me.

I never play for a few days after a major patch, we all know its going to be haphazard for awhile, as ususal.

I gotta really laugh at this plan. You gonna try and scare a guy who played the harder game on a WAY WAY WAY harder server and has been ganked 100 times more then what you are planing and still won?

"The best you'll be is just a talker, cause you just can't beat Sam DeathWalker!"

[glo]

Waiting for the all the patch stuff to cool down, moving 8 toons to different accounts ($200 lol), and installing 4 more motherboards. And have to see about the macaroon workarounds ... So it will be like 4 days before you can try and kill me.

I never play for a few days after a major patch, we all know its going to be haphazard for awhile, as ususal.heh "try"

[RobinGBrown]

You keep using that word......"won"..........I don't think it means what you think it means.

Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well-known is this: never go in against Sam Deathtalker when death is on the line! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha...

[glo]

Waiting for the all the patch stuff to cool down, moving 8 toons to different accounts ($200 lol), and installing 4 more motherboards. And have to see about the macaroon workarounds ... So it will be like 4 days before you can try and kill me.

I never play for a few days after a major patch, we all know its going to be haphazard for awhile, as ususal.

I gotta really laugh at this plan. You gonna try and scare a guy who played the harder game on a WAY WAY WAY harder server and has been ganked 100 times more then what you are planing and still won?

"The best you'll be is just a talker, cause you just can't beat Sam DeathWalker!"I was just going to kill you a few times and move on but it sounds like you are making it a challenge. You aren't making it a challenge are you? The fact you didn't realize you could be graveyard camped leads me to believe you have no clue what you are asking for.

You keep saying how hard EQ was and that you "won" and all that. You didn't even get to the level limit and from what I have seen of EQ most of the encounters are tank and spank.

[cairnz]

It doesn't matter. Sam has won this thread. I'll hand it to him, he's probably not the one that knows all the classes in and out, nor does he seem to be a copycat of sorts (i don't count prepared / sam as copying eachother, as they're both quite unique) - and no matter how hard you all try, labeling him as giving multiboxing a bad name, it still can't avoid the fact that he's vocal about what he does, and he seems to be having fun doing it.

seems to some, that ruining the fun for others is the best fun they themselves can have. i wish i could be a fly on the wall one day, watching the symphony which is making over two dozen characters work in unison.

peace.

regards,
pve monkey

[Frosty]

You keep using that word......"won"..........I don't think it means what you think it means.

Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well-known is this: never go in against Sam Deathtalker when death is on the line! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha...You both win the internetz!!! Thanks for the laugh. :P

[Wilbur]

I was just going to kill you a few times and move on but it sounds like you are making it a challenge. You aren't making it a challenge are you? The fact you didn't realize you could be graveyard camped leads me to believe you have no clue what you are asking for.

You keep saying how hard EQ was and that you "won" and all that. You didn't even get to the level limit and from what I have seen of EQ most of the encounters are tank and spank.

Most of the high end raids in EQ are FAR from tank and spank, I'd rate them as more difficult than WoW has to offer. Its true, Sam did take down the 'hardest' mob in the game, unfortunately, by the time he did it, the level cap had been raised and his toons were much higher than the encounter was designed for, so it was no longer the 'hardest' mob in the game.

All of Sams claims about his total superiority in EQ are pretty much bullshit, or taken completely out of context, I have no problem translating them so its easier for WoW players to understand the rediculous context in which he makes these claims.

[Bigfish]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I have better things to do than go whip Sam's ass up and down where ever he happens to be just for shits and giggles. Not to mention the complexities of figuring out his play schedule. Dude doesn't seem to actually log in more than a few times a week, as far as I can tell.

[Boylston]

I gotta really laugh at this plan. You gonna try and scare a guy who played the harder game on a WAY WAY WAY harder server and has been ganked 100 times more then what you are planing and still won?

It has nothing to do with scaring you, Sam. You've clearly proven to the community that you have tough skin and are immune to taunts, jabs, ridicule, scare tactics, or even downright reason.

I'd just like to see you in-person in the game. As much as I think you're jousting at windmills with your endeavor, it would still be fun to see and take my own screenshot.

A screenshot of 26 corpses would be even better, though. Let us know when you are done patching and doing character transfers to cover up for mistakes you shouldn't have made if you hadn't listened to us!

[Sam DeathWalker]

Did I "win" EQ;

Decide for yourself:

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/list.m?topic_id=133048

If I'm not (well was before SoD expansion, but man with 24 cleric mercenaries I would be invincible in pvp) top dog, who is and why?


Two computers are rebuilt, working on the software stuffs tonight. Two more to go, but waiting on of all things those cpu heat sink clamp down things (my big typhoons are to old to have them so I have to order some cheap junk sinks to the get am2 clamp down thing). Still I might be able to log in when the software stable (rerigerstering windows after the MB change now). If my new MB's get the high memory bandwidth and improve FPS a ton as I expect Ill have a new post on it.

[Yamio]

Not trying to be critical here Sam, nor am I wanting to rain on your parade, but in a MMO where there is supposedly "no end", how do you figure you won a game that didn't have an ending? Correct me if I'm wrong, but beating all the end game content doesn't make someone the winner of a game that doesn't have an end, right? I mean, was there a race to see who finished everything first, or had the most of everything? I never played the game so I don't know.

How do you beat something which has no end? :D

Sorry if this has been asked before. I have a tendency to stay away from your threads, so if this has been asked and answered before just ignore this.

edit: I'll give you one thing Sam, and this is no bullshit; you have the toughest goddamn skin I have ever seen! I'm serious bout that.

[Wilbur]

He didnt beat all the end game content. Nothing like...

[Sam DeathWalker]

You beat others by having the ability to beat them in pvp (all they have vs. all you have) OR you kill a stonger mob with all you have vs. all they have. Thats the only two accurate measurement. PvP is ususaly not possible due to different servers and what not so who can solo the stongest mob with characters on accounts they own (and leveled up themselves) and playing as many accounts that they own as they can at the same time. Others can raid and get raid items to improve their toons but if all that gear dosn't let them kill a stonger mob then I can kill then well I guess Im better.

You never beat the game as there is always more to do but you do beat other individual players.

Of course I stoped about July of 2008, I am sure that I will be passed up as time goes on. But as of July 2008, I consider myself the best. And some others on that thread do also.

And no matter, I think we can all agree that I am the best known EQ1 player at any rate. The only other two might be Fansy or Furor and they are gone into the dustbin of history while I am still around.

Again if you are of the opinion some other single person did better in EQ1 then me, say who they are and why. That thread was a sticky for many months and anyone who wanted to claim whatever they wished were free to do so.

To be honest I think that what the problem with Wilber and others have with me is that I have accomplished vertutually nothing in WoW and yet I am better known, and more famous, already then others who have done 100 times more in the game than what I have. I do self promote and as a result I get known. Well ...

[Yamio]

So, having more toons allows you to kill something that's bigger than what a solo player can kill. Okay.

With that said, and again, I'm not trying to call you out or anything, but by having more toons and paying more money than anybody else, means you bought your winning status, right? You have more accounts which you purchased just so you can have more toons than everybody else, right. Head to head, you purchased your win right?

No offense, but a lot of folks would consider that cheating, and thus nullifying anything won.

I'm not saying anything...

I'm just saying... /shrug

[keyclone]

ummm... Yamio... you just echo'd what i hear from solo players whenever they see my 5xbox roll into town

[RobinGBrown]

you do beat other individual players.

I do self promote and as a result I get known.

I think this sums up, to me, why I dislike Sam's approach so much.

I despise people who flap their mouths and talk themselves up, and it's even worse when they say that they're better than everybody.

The tone that comes across is 'I'm better than you' and that sort of attitude makes for few friends, especially when it's only backed up with words.

Fame comes only when deserved.

[Yamio]

Shush Keyclone. I'm not talking about us. I'm taking about Sam.

u no derail thread :whistling:

[glo]

ummm... Yamio... you just echo'd what i hear from solo players whenever they see my 5xbox roll into townThe difference is you are (hopefully) not going around telling everyone you are better then they are because you have more accounts in a video game. Sam on the other hand does so regularly which opens him up to this kind of scrutiny.

[Bigfish]

To be honest I think that what the problem with Wilber and others have with me is that I have accomplished vertutually nothing in WoW and yet I am better known, and more famous, already then others who have done 100 times more in the game than what I have. I do self promote and as a result I get known. Well ...


Who the hell even knows who you are outside of your annoying forum persona? All you really did was put up a big sign and yell "look at me", which any forum troll can do for a fraction of the money. The naked cowboy is far more entertaining and awesome. Kudos on being able to brute force your way through trivial content of a dead game. I'm sure for years to come we'll hear tales of the mighty death walker and his... what did he do again? Seriously, all I hear about you having ever done is having a large number of characters and having prostitutes hold up signs in your computer-based Josef Fritzl style dungeon while you pranced around in a diaper. The only thing I really see you actually winning at is the competition to see who can throw the most money at something, but even then, there are people out there beating you.

Sad thing is, I'm one of the people actually interested in reading your inane attempts at leveling, if only as an observation in to the cost/benefits of leveling large numbers of characters. I'm all for doing what you want to do, but sanctimoniously declaring yourself the winner of some imaginary contest? Sorry, but that's the point I hop off the "let Sam do what he wants" platform and jump on the "go fornicate yourself with a red hot poker" train.

[Sam DeathWalker]

When and if the Yankees win the baseball chapionship are you gonna say they are not the best because they "bought" their way to the top?

When the guy who wins the Indy 500 does it because his team spent more money then his competitors you will claim he isn't the best because he "bought" his way to the top?

Everyone is free to spend as much money as they wish on EQ or WoW, I don't prevent others from multiboxing. Its not magic if I can do it so can anyone. If its "cheating" then have Blizzard ban my accounts. Also as you saw from the EQ thread none claimed I was cheating. Contray to what some others have accomplished.

Thats like claiming you are the best golfer in the world because IF you put in as many hours playing as Tiger Woods you would beat him. Do it and then make your claim.

So what you are the superior player because you have fewer accounts, and you kill weaker mobs, and you play fewer hours?

Again if someone beat me in EQ please give their name, and why you feel they are better then I am at EQ. If someone else is so clearly better then I am why has none mentioned his name yet?


Ya its bragging but what am I supposed to say. Oh ya soandso is way better then I am cuase he put in less money and fewer hours played into the game? Lets not forget if you total the hours played on all my guys I probably also beat anyone by that measure as well.



Who the hell even knows who you are outside of your annoying forum persona?

Not sure what you mean but:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&newwindow=1&as_q=sam+deathwalker&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=100&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=off

And of course the 4th highest reputation of all FoH posters, as voted by the readers themselves!

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/members/list/?order=DESC&sort=reputation&pp=30

[Bigfish]

When and if the Yankees win the baseball chapionship are you gonna say they are not the best because they "bought" their way to the top?

When the guy who wins the Indy 500 does it because his team spent more money then his competitors you will claim he isn't the best because he "bought" his way to the top?

Actually, yes, that is quite a common complaint and the motivation behind salary caps in professional sports.

Its just silly you cling so vehemenently to this conept that someone "wins" in an MMO though. There aren't even clearly established rules or victory conditions. All you do is continually brow beat this concept that because you spent money, you've won.


Not sure what you mean but:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&newwi…s_nhi=&safe=off

And of course the 4th highest reputation of all FoH posters, as voted by the readers themselves!

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/members/l…eputation&pp=30

Which proves exactly my point, thank you. Its all a bunch of forum banter, generic pages, or your own posts. So yeah, golf clap. You accomplished something by holding up a sign and shouting. You didn't need a bunch of computers to do that, ironically.

[puppychow]

To use your sports analogy further -- yes, the Phillies won in 2008 because its clearly established in baseball that whoever wins the world series is THE WINNER! In Wow there are three clear categories of winners:

1. 5v5 arena. The higher your arena ranking, the better at PVP you are. Feel free to level to 80 and dominate in 5v5 arenas Sam.
2. PVE. whether its 5 man heroics, 10 man raids, or 25 man raids multiboxers who can clear this content "win" the PVE game.
3. Achievement Points. Gotta have em all!

Blizzard is going to release some stuff that will allow more clear winners in battlegrounds as well, right now there really aren't any -- you win a match, you lose a match, it doesn't really matter you still get "something" positive and theres no real viable ranking. Battlegrounds/Wintergrasp currently are just a way to earn honor/marks/etc so you can get gear so you can compete in arena. Yes, you can treat each as the end-game, but there is no real way to "keep score" in those things, since the teams are so large and the difference between winning/losing so minor.

Yes, for fun its awesome to go say I solo'd Onyxia (a level 60 raid boss) or I multiboxed Zul'Aman (a level 70 raid instance) or I did OVER 9000 DPS on this one mob over here, but those are all just "minor stats", they are not categories that are in competition.

[Bigfish]

What 9000 no way!

[keyclone]

When and if the Yankees win the baseball championship are you gonna say they are not the best because they "bought" their way to the top?they always have... then again, i'm originally from Boston, so i might be a bit biased

:D

[elsegundo]

im sorry i never really cared before... but what server and faction is sam anyway?

[Sam DeathWalker]

Ner' zhul horde

[elsegundo]

thanks sam. will roll alliance and pester you some. =]

[Sam DeathWalker]

Take a number and get in line.

[d0z3rr]

The fact you didn't realize you could be graveyard camped leads me to believe you have no clue what you are asking for.


He can't be graveyard camped because he stated that he would logout and read forums or whatever. Kinda hard to graveyard camp someone if they're not logged in, no?

[glo]

The fact you didn't realize you could be graveyard camped leads me to believe you have no clue what you are asking for.


He can't be graveyard camped because he stated that he would logout and read forums or whatever. Kinda hard to graveyard camp someone if they're not logged in, no?Actually, what he said was he would take the 10 minute rez sickness and go to town to work on professions. That is the basis for making the comment you quote above.

If he logs out or somehow manages to get to town he still "loses" in my book. If you stop someone from playing the game I don't care what silly score keeping method you are using it's a "win".

[Sam DeathWalker]

Im bound in shatt ... they going to cover every level 30-50 zone in the game (well cept wotlk)?


When all is said and done, more is said then done.

[elsegundo]

/who is your friend. =]

[puppychow]

we're all multiboxers, its trivial to create a level 1 horde on another account and /who you before sending 1-2 people to gank on the other side (its even ezier on PVE server, you can have both factions on same server!).

After all thats said and done tho Sam is still gonna win, his playtime is very sporadic and off-hours so unless you happen to be up in those crazy hours he does its unlikely you would ever even see him. Which leads to a more interesting question, what exactly will Sam do at level 80 -- Wintergrasp, BGs, etc will be pretty dead during those times :)

[glo]

Im bound in shatt ... they going to cover every level 30-50 zone in the game (well cept wotlk)?


When all is said and done, more is said then done.The level of ignorance you exhibit on a regular basis is beyond comprehension. Amazing!

[keyclone]

so what you guys are saying is... if i want some good multi-boxer pvp, fly cover for sam and expect to get loads of incoming.

sounds like a plan

[Wilbur]

Right, now that we've officially established that Sam is:
Thick as pig shit Egotistical beyond all comprehension The worlds most brick like troll Coated in Inpregnable insultproof retard skincan we now please ban him?

To Sam :)

The thing that I find saddest of all, is that because you are such an utterly dense and stupid prick is that your own 'people' ( Or as close as you come to... ) have turned on you and want to make sure that you have an utterly SHIT time playing WoW. Whilst it goes against most of the rules of the game and blah blah blah I really hope that you never experience anymore content beyond the places you teleport into before a Multibox train comes and rips you a new one. Cheer up sunshine, theres still plenty of city quests ('http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Search?search=city+quests&go=1') you can do. I'm sure with 26 characters you could be an awesome AH trader as well, if you never left the city, just park all your guys up infront of the auctioneer and prevent people from clicking on them.

Anyway shithead, you've brought out the worst in us, Congratulations, long may it continue.

[Zub]

Why so much hate, you guys really need a chill pill. Grats on making these forums like the totally moronic Wow forums. /golfclap
if i sum up the last posts of Sam and you, yours are so much more hostile, useless, and just plain rude.

Ow well, if you believe that's what makes a good forum, then grats, i'm off.

[Tasty]

Why so much hate, you guys really need a chill pill. Grats on making these forums like the totally moronic Wow forums. /golfclap
if i sum up the last posts of Sam and you, yours are so much more hostile, useless, and just plain rude.

Ow well, if you believe that's what makes a good forum, then grats, i'm off.

Lots of trolling in this here thread, coming from both sides mind you. Just an observation, don't want to get my head bitten off.

[glo]

A lot of people seem to be getting real uptight about this Sam thing quite needlessly. He is boasting and making challenges and a few people choose to take him up on it. It's a video game, it's a pvp server, and everyone involved is doing so consensually, RELAX.

The worse people in these threads are not the ones that have taken a stance for or against Sam, the worst ones are the ones coming in crying about how horrible it is that we are having these threads, it's all in fun and YOU should be the one taking the chill.

[Zub]

A lot of people seem to be getting real uptight about this Sam thing quite needlessly. He is boasting and making challenges and a few people choose to take him up on it. It's a video game, it's a pvp server, and everyone involved is doing so consensually, RELAX.

The worse people in these threads are not the ones that have taken a stance for or against Sam, the worst ones are the ones coming in crying about how horrible it is that we are having these threads, it's all in fun and YOU should be the one taking the chill.
e-rudeness and insults is the new cool i guess

[Sam DeathWalker]

If conclusory allegation could sub for actual debate I might bother to respond to "wilbur". Do you even play WoW? Everyone else seems to have their team listed in their Sig, I dont see anything in yours. I mean you can't even argue "That idea is stupid beacause... " instead of "You are stupid". Your commments bring nothing of value to respond to.


Got the flu yesterday bad but coming out of it now. Set up my Crosshair motherboard and am disappointed (although I can overclock it 10percet - I hate doing that).

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20090125080555049&SLanguage=en-us&board_id=1&model=Crosshair

It did seem that all my character moves are done so I have to rewrite some stuffs. But might get back in game tommorow or monday. Its going to be so much better now that characters on the proper accounts, thank goodness (and $200).

One thing that is just GREAT about WoW pvp is you basically can't train, that was my biggest problem with EQ pvp people training me.

[Starbuck_Jones]

Beef, its whats for dinner.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Sam, there is no point me wasting my time debating with you. Insulting is far quicker/easier. Fuck you.

Np I can understand why someone with yur level of eruditeness would not wish to debate facts and conclusions based upon those facts with me.

[Zub]

Sam, there is no point me wasting my time debating with you. Insulting is far quicker/easier. Fuck you.
sheesh, and Sam is the one that is supposed to be banned in your book?

[Sam DeathWalker]

Lowest guy is 33 now. Finished up the 3.0.8 problems (cept one more for macaroon), and the character name changes, got carbonite (paid):

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/6488/wowscrnshot012509005815bf5.th.jpg (http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot012509005815bf5.jpg)

[Golle]

Lowest guy is 33 now. Finished up the 3.0.8 problems (cept one more for macaroon), and the character name changes, got carbonite (paid):

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/6488/wowscrnshot012509005815bf5.th.jpg ('http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot012509005815bf5.jpg')Troll or not, that picture is still awesome!

[Knobley]

GRAWLIX


Wilbur,

Just curious, but, how do you feel about Sam? Don't be shy, tell us how you really feel

Knobley

[elsegundo]

we're all multiboxers, its trivial to create a level 1 horde on another account and /who you before sending 1-2 people to gank on the other side (its even ezier on PVE server, you can have both factions on same server!).

After all thats said and done tho Sam is still gonna win, his playtime is very sporadic and off-hours so unless you happen to be up in those crazy hours he does its unlikely you would ever even see him. Which leads to a more interesting question, what exactly will Sam do at level 80 -- Wintergrasp, BGs, etc will be pretty dead during those times :)you know... for me, i dont care who wins. Sam wins? so what? my point was just to meet him in-game and mess around. i have no animosity for sam at all.

[valkry]

Hmm, this anger towards Sam bores me. I think I have said it before but seriously, if this was the wow forums, I have to say congratulations, you guys have been trolled. Feel free to keep feeding him.

[suicidesspyder]

Right, now that we've officially established that Sam is:
Thick as pig shit Egotistical beyond all comprehension The worlds most brick like troll Coated in Inpregnable insultproof retard skincan we now please ban him?

To Sam :)

The thing that I find saddest of all, is that because you are such an utterly dense and stupid prick is that your own 'people' ( Or as close as you come to... ) have turned on you and want to make sure that you have an utterly SHIT time playing WoW. Whilst it goes against most of the rules of the game and blah blah blah I really hope that you never experience anymore content beyond the places you teleport into before a Multibox train comes and rips you a new one. Cheer up sunshine, theres still plenty of city quests ('http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Search?search=city+quests&go=1') you can do. I'm sure with 26 characters you could be an awesome AH trader as well, if you never left the city, just park all your guys up infront of the auctioneer and prevent people from clicking on them.

Anyway shithead, you've brought out the worst in us, Congratulations, long may it continue.Dont mean to step on anyones feet but here goes " sure me later." Yes sam is set in his way but hes an older man probebly twice the age of most of us. Also if hes anything like most of us we all thrive on back talk and shit talking its called motivation. I know from experience if someone trash talks to me it motivates me to keep going and proving people wrong. So i think all the shit storm talking to sam has motivated to get to 80 and prove that he isnt bringing out the worst in us. In fact hes bringing us " boxers" into the world as smart computer savy good players. It doesnt take that much skill to play one toon you can get to 70 play your class and be good at it. Although, when it comes to playing more then one character it takes alot to do that sometimes hours upon hours setting up systems macros addons and tweaking everything. I tip my hat to sam with all the negative feed he gets he still does his thing and does it good. I know doing five characters is rough at times, but doing what he does 25+ and prepared is something of amazement. Its like playing pvp someone kills you over and over and over again as you level because they are 80 and your 30+ levels then you what does it do. It's like a ass kicking that motivates you to level faster and get to that level that when you see that person you can kick his ass up and down wow until when they see you they run in fear cause you scared them. So can we just congratz sam and prepared for what they do.

On a ligher side i think sam and prepared should do a 25 on 35 face off where we can all watch. Winner is winner then we can decide who is the best at what they do. Sick of seeing all this hate and back and forth of how good you were in EQ and how good we are in WOW. LOL i want a face off then we know for sure whos the best. But no hating we just congrat the winner and let bigones be bigones.

We are all the same wether we do two accounts or 25+, we all strive to bring a new joy to a game we love and are addicted to. We shouldnt be hating on each other we are a small core of players vastley outnumbered by single players. We need all the love in the world between us.

Well i think that was my longest post sorry so long lots to scrape off at 1:30am. Time for this old man to pass out.

[Knobley]

...i think sam and prepared should do a 25 on 35 face off where we can all watch. Winner is winner...

Such a face off would be completely unnecessary and an absolute waste of everyone's time. We already know who the winner is. It's Sam. How do we know this? Because he says so. I mean, come on, what more proof do you need?

(Never mind Prepared's high level toons... that don't count for anything, because in another year or so, Sam will have made it to BC content, and then THE WORLD WILL BOW TO THE DEATHWALKER)

... or something like that ...

[Bigfish]

I think its just because he lacks the will of the warrior. Thus he has already lost. Want a rematch? Ha! He lost again!

[Tonuss]

Did I "win" EQ;

Decide for yourself:

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/list.m?topic_id=133048

Haha! I was guilded with Mandaar (about a third of the way down the page) for a short time back in 2002 or 2003. Small world.

[Sam DeathWalker]

My lowest guy is 34 now, I havn't seen a single person come to kill me lol ....

[glo]

My lowest guy is 34 now, I havn't seen a single person come to kill me lol ....You are never on, you get about a level every 2 weeks so there isn't much chance of hurting your virtually non-existent leveling anyway.

[Bigfish]

Not to mention most people have better things to do than spend 3 hours getting a group of DKs out of the starting zone so they can wait for Sam to log in whenever he does just to drop 5-10 D&Ds, maybe a few howling blasts, and a corpse explosion or two just for giggles.

[valkry]

Not to mention most people have better things to do than spend 3 hours getting a group of DKs out of the starting zone so they can wait for Sam to log in whenever he does just to drop 5-10 D&Ds, maybe a few howling blasts, and a corpse explosion or two just for giggles.
Yea, like posting about going to do it on a forum instead.

[Bigfish]

Yea, like posting about going to do it on a forum instead.

Given that one takes about 30 seconds and the other takes anywhere from 3-12+ hours, yes, e-thugging it up does seem a better alternative.

[valkry]

Yea, like posting about going to do it on a forum instead.

Given that one takes about 30 seconds and the other takes anywhere from 3-12+ hours, yes, e-thugging it up does seem a better alternative.
But continuously replying takes up more and more time.

PS: Wow, 12 hours to get set up to gank Sam..? It's so easy to create a team when he is on, find out his zone and then find and destroy him. Yet for all you guys bragging about going to do it, none have. Funny shit. You guys talk just as much as Sam, at least he is trying to walk.

[Bigfish]

Wow, 12 hours to get set up to gank Sam..? It's so easy to create a team when he is on, find out his zone and then find and destroy him. Yet for all you guys bragging about going to do it, none have. Funny shit. You guys talk just as much as Sam, at least he is trying to walk.

Personally, I never said I was going to go do it. Maybe you have a difficult time grasping my analysis, but the basic gyst was that it takes anywhere from the minimum (whatever it takes you to get through the DK starting zone, assuming you land right on top of him upon exit) up to the minimum plus however long it takes to track the guy down. Hell if I know what that is, as I have no idea what Sam's schedule is. From what I've gathered, he doesn't log in til late at night, and not on a regular basis to the point anyone could execute a gankage with any degree of accuracy concerning time invested, at which point what do you get out of it? A dead Deathwalker who's logged out to prance around in his diaper with his hookers, gleefully cackling that he made someone waste the time to hunt him down? Like I said, better things to do when I'm playing the game.

[valkry]

Wow, 12 hours to get set up to gank Sam..? It's so easy to create a team when he is on, find out his zone and then find and destroy him. Yet for all you guys bragging about going to do it, none have. Funny shit. You guys talk just as much as Sam, at least he is trying to walk.

Personally, I never said I was going to go do it. Maybe you have a difficult time grasping my analysis, but the basic gyst was that it takes anywhere from the minimum (whatever it takes you to get through the DK starting zone, assuming you land right on top of him upon exit) up to the minimum plus however long it takes to track the guy down. Hell if I know what that is, as I have no idea what Sam's schedule is. From what I've gathered, he doesn't log in til late at night, and not on a regular basis to the point anyone could execute a gankage with any degree of accuracy concerning time invested, at which point what do you get out of it? A dead Deathwalker who's logged out to prance around in his diaper with his hookers, gleefully cackling that he made someone waste the time to hunt him down? Like I said, better things to do when I'm playing the game.
Personally I never mentioned that you would. When referring to anyone, I used the term "you guys" as in anyone who said they were going to. So I think you also have trouble grasping at someones anlysis. Maybe we should take a class together and fix that.

PS: I find it hilarious that you still insult him even when arguing with me. GG.

But as I said, people claimed they were going to gank them, no one did, you say it's cos they got better things to do, and as they are posting here about ganking him, I jokingly said that that is it.

[Bigfish]

PS: I find it hilarious that you still insult him even when arguing with me. GG.

I consider it good natured ribbing, given that the guy has the skin of a rhino. Besides, someone has to keep on topic as the thread tries to derail into a meta-argument over e-thuggery.

[glo]

Wow, 12 hours to get set up to gank Sam..? It's so easy to create a team when he is on, find out his zone and then find and destroy him. Yet for all you guys bragging about going to do it, none have. Funny shit. You guys talk just as much as Sam, at least he is trying to walk.

Personally, I never said I was going to go do it. Maybe you have a difficult time grasping my analysis, but the basic gyst was that it takes anywhere from the minimum (whatever it takes you to get through the DK starting zone, assuming you land right on top of him upon exit) up to the minimum plus however long it takes to track the guy down. Hell if I know what that is, as I have no idea what Sam's schedule is. From what I've gathered, he doesn't log in til late at night, and not on a regular basis to the point anyone could execute a gankage with any degree of accuracy concerning time invested, at which point what do you get out of it? A dead Deathwalker who's logged out to prance around in his diaper with his hookers, gleefully cackling that he made someone waste the time to hunt him down? Like I said, better things to do when I'm playing the game.
Personally I never mentioned that you would. When referring to anyone, I used the term "you guys" as in anyone who said they were going to. So I think you also have trouble grasping at someones anlysis. Maybe we should take a class together and fix that.

PS: I find it hilarious that you still insult him even when arguing with me. GG.

But as I said, people claimed they were going to gank them, no one did, you say it's cos they got better things to do, and as they are posting here about ganking him, I jokingly said that that is it.It's hard to gank someone that is never online. In the last 3 weeks he has went from 33 to 34. An hour of play time in 3 weeks makes it kind of hard to catch him. If he ever starts playing I can assure you there will be screen shots, I doubt I am the only one with a group of DKs on that server. I actually believe he is hiding out hoping everyone will forget about him for awhile, I'm fairly certain he was playing more then once every 3 weeks prior to 3.0.8.

Just for the record I myself wasn't trying to be an e-thug. It's a game, it is all in fun and I realize the worse that will happen is he learns a little about wow pvp.

[Sam DeathWalker]

I finished this whole quest and am in undercity now plotting my next quest:

http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=495

I got 3 35 and and everyone else 36/37 now.

I ain't bragg'n but you guys is lagg'n.

Some level 80 did me in a few times at Tarren Mill, and I killed a level 40 (I was waiting for him in the room where the mob for the quest (4th part) was, he comes in figure to see the mob and Im there, lol.

There is one minor flaw in your plan. To gank me you have to be alliance. You don't think that 5 level 55 DK in HORDE terriorty isn't going to be viewed as tempting targets by higher level HORDE?

Im on most everynight from 12 or 2 or so am pacific to 4 or 5 pacific. Servers are low pop also so I get super ping.

[valkry]

I play in America/Europe so I get super ping.
Fixed that for you.

[glo]

I finished this whole quest and am in undercity now plotting my next quest:

http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=495

I got 3 35 and and everyone else 36/37 now.

I ain't bragg'n but you guys is lagg'n.

Some level 80 did me in a few times at Tarren Mill, and I killed a level 40 (I was waiting for him in the room where the mob for the quest (4th part) was, he comes in figure to see the mob and Im there, lol.

There is one minor flaw in your plan. To gank me you have to be alliance. You don't think that 5 level 55 DK in HORDE terriorty isn't going to be viewed as tempting targets by higher level HORDE?

Im on most everynight from 12 or 2 or so am pacific to 4 or 5 pacific. Servers are low pop also so I get super ping.You are on "most everynight" and it takes you weeks to get a level with RAF? Crazy

Just so you know, you are in what is called "contested" territory, it is neither horde or alliance controlled.

[Bigfish]

Some level 80 did me in a few times at Tarren Mill, and I killed a level 40 (I was waiting for him in the room where the mob for the quest (4th part) was, he comes in figure to see the mob and Im there, lol.

There is one minor flaw in your plan. To gank me you have to be alliance. You don't think that 5 level 55 DK in HORDE terriorty isn't going to be viewed as tempting targets by higher level HORDE?

1. Hillsbrad is contested.

2. DKs don't get out in to the world until 58.

3. The difference between 58 DKs and a level 80 isn't nearly as massive as a standard pre-60 (or in this case, your mid-30s). Especially 5 DKs vs an 80 with 10-20k HP, that's around the HP of a typical boss for a level 60, so I would imagine the DKs would at least have a fighting chance, barring some skill issues on the part of the DKs or an overwhelming numbers advantage on the part of the gankers. There's a number of issues involved there, but the point is it would be a closer fight.

This has me curious though, how are you faring against gankers at this point? Has it reached the point that you're actually taking out a fair chunk of their life, or is it still faster to just lay down and accept it?

[glo]

Some level 80 did me in a few times at Tarren Mill, and I killed a level 40 (I was waiting for him in the room where the mob for the quest (4th part) was, he comes in figure to see the mob and Im there, lol.

There is one minor flaw in your plan. To gank me you have to be alliance. You don't think that 5 level 55 DK in HORDE terriorty isn't going to be viewed as tempting targets by higher level HORDE?

1. Hillsbrad is contested.

2. DKs don't get out in to the world until 58.

3. The difference between 58 DKs and a level 80 isn't nearly as massive as a standard pre-60 (or in this case, your mid-30s). Especially 5 DKs vs an 80 with 10-20k HP, that's around the HP of a typical boss for a level 60, so I would imagine the DKs would at least have a fighting chance, barring some skill issues on the part of the DKs or an overwhelming numbers advantage on the part of the gankers. There's a number of issues involved there, but the point is it would be a closer fight.

This has me curious though, how are you faring against gankers at this point? Has it reached the point that you're actually taking out a fair chunk of their life, or is it still faster to just lay down and accept it?My 5 DK team killed it's first 80 at level 60. You will have a hard time with plate classes and good rogues but casters should be pretty easy.

If he is still using the ridiculous macro he was showing off awhile back he is definitely getting owned by anyone that comes around with 0 chance of defending himself.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Two guys gravyard camped me last night, after I ran right stright into that allience town in Duskwood or whatever that zone next to SV is (sometimes feeling invincible donst pay lol), with a ton of guards, They followed me from SV and I just let them, they were both 40's, I lost but then I moved my guys in a big circle and killed them, then some 80 comes in and slaughters me and I go to bed. This morning got over to where I wanted and some level 80 looking for herbs (lol) slaughtered me so I logged. Gonna go back online in a few hours.

Im in San Jose, and my datacenter is in LA. I see ping as low as 23ms at 2 a.m. sometimes.

So I start a quest listed as sharable ... kill the first mob and its not sharable, only one guy can loot ... bleh now I have to kill 8 X 26 mobs, if they have the item which seems like 50/50 so Like 320 mobs (plus another 200 plus of mobs in the area) to finish the first leg of the quest..... rats.

Finished it up on 8 guys tonight.... stupid quest but I am killing tons of mobs (not just the quest ones).

Im doing ok I have 45 days of RAF left and Im spending most all my non work time playing not making macros and computers and stuff.

[glo]

Two guys gravyard camped me last night, after I ran right stright into that allience town in Duskwood or whatever that zone next to SV is (sometimes feeling invincible donst pay lol), with a ton of guards, They followed me from SV and I just let them, they were both 40's, I lost but then I moved my guys in a big circle and killed them, then some 80 comes in and slaughters me and I go to bed. This morning got over to where I wanted and some level 80 looking for herbs (lol) slaughtered me so I logged. Gonna go back online in a few hours.

Im in San Jose, and my datacenter is in LA. I see ping as low as 23ms at 2 a.m. sometimes.

So I start a quest listed as sharable ... kill the first mob and its not sharable, only one guy can loot ... bleh now I have to kill 8 X 26 mobs, if they have the item which seems like 50/50 so Like 320 mobs (plus another 200 plus of mobs in the area) to finish the first leg of the quest..... rats.

Finished it up on 8 guys tonight.... stupid quest but I am killing tons of mobs (not just the quest ones).

Im doing ok I have 45 days of RAF left and Im spending most all my non work time playing not making macros and computers and stuff.Shareable means you are able to share it with others that have the prerequisites. It doesn't mean the quest item is shareable.

I saw you in Stonard tonight but you never came out. You need to play more, a big pile of Tauren seems like it would be a comfortable spot for a picnic!

[Sam DeathWalker]

I did the quest on 8 guys and was to sleepy to continue.... Were you the guy attacking the guards? Grims or something?

[glo]

I did the quest on 8 guys and was to sleepy to continue.... Were you the guy attacking the guards? Grims or something?I spawned a few guards to see if I could run in and aoe you, they were a little stronger then I thought but I could have done it with a kamikaze move. I also killed a pair of skull level horde that jumped me, that was great! I don't think they were 80s but it still has to be embarrassing to get owned by grey players ;)

[Bigfish]

I don't think they were 80s but it still has to be embarrassing to get owned by grey players ;)

Its a great feeling to lay a smackdown on a skull player.

[glo]

3:55 AM EST: Samdeathwkzz has come online

4:08 AM EST: First contact, a single second of conflict later

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4:12 AM EST: Sam attempts his world famous "circle jerk" maneuver, another few seconds of conflict

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4:27 AM EST: Another one second fight (I'm playing on my laptop, laugh at the UI if you like, I would!)

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4:32 AM EST: Can't even say this one lasted a second. He rezzed on top of a Death and Decay, bright.

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4:39 AM EST: He rezzed while I was riding around, the Tauren speed bump experiment continues.

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4:55 AM EST: With Stonard 150 yards away this entire time, Sam makes a stunning move. He "tactically withdrawals" in the opposite direction.

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He logs out 10 minutes later. It was fun hanging with ya Sam, same time tomorrow?

The funny in this is I think I am doing him a favor. I'm saving him 26 boxing this quest chain..

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?wquest=698&source=live&locale=enUS ('http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?wquest=698&source=live&locale=enUS')

Who would do that to themselves?

[Sam DeathWalker]

Ya I got hammered ... almost killed one of his guys a few times but died fairly consitantly.

I finished the quest on all but 2 of my guys (4 are level 36 rest are higher), that was a waste kinda but Im killing mobs like I planed anyways so ... Thinking I do the next part of the chain on the 4 low guys then move out of the zone, its nice though for herbs.

These level 55 DK only have 6K hp so it won't be long before they are no threat.

I don't run from pvp, I just learn through deaths. Next time Ill have 25 X ES follow with CL/LB with a mix of WS macro made for pvp. I have to read up on the totems also.

4:55 AM EST: With Stonard 150 yards away this entire time, Sam makes a stunning move. He "tactically withdrawals" in the opposite direction.

5:00 AM Deathwalker has his meal of Felit Meniong with bread and chedder and mushroom/yellowbellpepers/onions compote.

5:40 Deathwalker back online, Glo gone, gets antoher 1-2 hours of leveling in.

[glo]

Ya I got hammered ... almost killed one of his guys a few times but died fairly consitantly.
You sir are delusional, you managed to get one character below 50% a single time and that was only because I couldn't be bothered to cast anti-magic zone. The rest of the fights lasted less then 2 seconds and you didn't do anything but scratch the same character.

These level 55 DK only have 6K hp so it won't be long before they are no threat. They are level 60 with 4 hours played time, if you like I can dedicate an hour a week to insure they out level you.
I don't run from pvp, I just learn through deaths. Next time Ill have 25 X ES follow with CL/LB with a mix of WS macro made for pvp. I have to read up on the totems also. 25 earth shocks, cool, you don't live long enough to cast anything else. I'm really starting to think you believe the crap you spew.


4:55 AM EST: With Stonard 150 yards away this entire time, Sam makes a stunning move. He "tactically withdrawals" in the opposite direction.

5:00 AM Deathwalker has his meal of Felit Meniong with bread and chedder and mushroom/yellowbellpepers/onions compote.

5:40 Deathwalker back online, Glo gone, gets antoher 1-2 hours of leveling in. Filet Mignon is delicious, is that what you are referring to? If your culinary knowledge is anything like your wow knowledge you are probably eating tabby.

Thanks for the heads up, in the future I will be sure to keep my horde character connected when I'm online.

[Sam DeathWalker]

I saw him go down to 20percent twice.

Ya doing some slow cooker thing tonight, filet and some thin itialan cured ham, hope it turns out good, never done steak in a slow cooker before (nor thin sliced ham).

Well level 60 against level 36ish ... Im lucky to do any damage.

Bring it on, I didn't sign up for a pvp server to not pvp.

[valkry]

Ooo, drama, sounds like you are upset cos Sam nearly killed one of your guys and isn't QQing about being camped like people in STV.

[Starbuck_Jones]

I give the win to Sam.

I wonder if he could do a capital city raid with druids and treants?

[glo]

Ooo, drama, sounds like you are upset cos Sam nearly killed one of your guys and isn't QQing about being camped like people in STV.Heh, yes, I am quite tore up about a character "almost" dying. This game doesn't even have a life meter, how will I know when I am on my last life. How many "almost" deaths does it take to count as a real death? The designers should really work on this, as it is it's really hard to tell when the final death comes in WoW!

Just for the record I do not camp or gank, making a very rare exception for Sam simply because he has issued a challenge.

[valkry]

Ooo, drama, sounds like you are upset cos Sam nearly killed one of your guys and isn't QQing about being camped like people in STV.Heh, yes, I am quite tore up about a character "almost" dying. This game doesn't even have a life meter, how will I know when I am on my last life. How many "almost" deaths does it take to count as a real death? The designers should really work on this, as it is it's really hard to tell when the final death comes in WoW!

Just for the record I do not camp or gank, making a very rare exception for Sam simply because he has issued a challenge.
Well, don't get too down about him almost killing one of your characters, it doesn't mean anything until it actually dies, so chin up there! I'm sure that with more than 20 levels advantage over him it will be harder for him to hurt you. Especially as the more levels you get on him, the harder it is for a spell to hit you. I'm sure with some more practice you could easily kill him without danger of dying.

As for your claim of not ganking, I don't believe you... boasting of going to kill Sam, making 5 characters on his server, tracking him down, killing him many times, bragging about it and posting screenies on a public forum, using an OP class nearly 20 levels higher... suuuuurrrreeee.

Enjoy the e-peen, don't stroke it too hard though, Sam doesn't stay online for constant play times, so you need to make it last.

[glo]

Ooo, drama, sounds like you are upset cos Sam nearly killed one of your guys and isn't QQing about being camped like people in STV.Heh, yes, I am quite tore up about a character "almost" dying. This game doesn't even have a life meter, how will I know when I am on my last life. How many "almost" deaths does it take to count as a real death? The designers should really work on this, as it is it's really hard to tell when the final death comes in WoW!

Just for the record I do not camp or gank, making a very rare exception for Sam simply because he has issued a challenge.
Well, don't get too down about him almost killing one of your characters, it doesn't mean anything until it actually dies, so chin up there! I'm sure that with more than 20 levels advantage over him it will be harder for him to hurt you. Especially as the more levels you get on him, the harder it is for a spell to hit you. I'm sure with some more practice you could easily kill him without danger of dying.

As for your claim of not ganking, I don't believe you... boasting of going to kill Sam, making 5 characters on his server, tracking him down, killing him many times, bragging about it and posting screenies on a public forum, using an OP class nearly 20 levels higher... suuuuurrrreeee.

Enjoy the e-peen, don't stroke it too hard though, Sam doesn't stay online for constant play times, so you need to make it last.I'm fairly certain there is a difference between ganking and going after someone that has repeatedly challenged people to do just that. You might want to find out about the person you are defending before doing so.

As far as E-peen there isn't much E-peen to be gained from sitting on a guy 20 levels lower but it is pretty fun where there are 26 of them all ran by a guy with an ego the size of Texas.

I can kind of understand the "fanboi" mentality but in this situation it's really pathetic, this guy is unworthy of your adoration. Besides, you are obviously more bothered by it then he is.

[valkry]

I don't adore him. I know all about Sam, but it's more fun to bag the people who try to insult him, there are already enough doing that, I prefer not go with the main crowd. Plus it's funy watching you try to defend what you are doing and claiming it's not pvp.

[Sam DeathWalker]

I mean its kinda ganking but then again, as you say challenge was posted and accepted. I was killed on SZ Hundreds on Hundreds of times against oppenets I had zero chanch against, but each death was a learning experience, as is here. I'v been killed maybe 30 times in WoW so far, bigs deal. Besides I would actually prefer to get ganked then kill my 600th crocodile lol...

You won today with a superior force, enjoy while you can cause as some point, like in EQ, guys who used to beat me easy became little more then a corpse used as a building block constructing my path to Glory. (copyright Sam Ferris 2009)

[Moorea]

A single 60 DK is enough to kill all of sam's guys :-) Hope you're having as much fun as I have Sam :-) [and grats on the first kill!]

edit: I had fun, but you're sooo slow to get your guys back that it's not that fun... also why the heck to you put down tremor totems?

ah you almost got me attacking while I was typing this :-)

edit2: I shouldn't not watch my screen - good job, you got me even though my pet and I got all of you guys anyway (ghoul form ftw) - but grats - even though you had maybe 1/2 life head start

[glo]

I don't adore him. I know all about Sam, but it's more fun to bag the people who try to insult him, there are already enough doing that, I prefer not go with the main crowd. Plus it's funy watching you try to defend what you are doing and claiming it's not pvp.You must be real fun to hang out with, do you get this worked up when people joke around in real life? Relax already.

I'm not trying to defend anything I'm doing, I'm playing a video game I pay to play and having fun. As far as claiming it's not pvp you have never seen such a comment from me, you are mistaken.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Ya a single level 60 DK did me in ... I see oppenet with 5-6K hp and figure I should take him though but well.

Well after everyone left I finished up this zone I thinks. Lowest is level 37 now, and 2 guys got achivment 50 quests done. Hopefully at 40 Ill have enough HP that some of these aoe's wont do me in so fast.

[SilverSlice]

sam i gotta love the stamina you got, leveling up boxing that many chars that takes a lot of time, atleast when people is enjoying ganking you :)

kepe it up, i wanna see some vids of you at higher lvls

Silver

[Moorea]

I was alone fighting you yesterday night, you could do better by dropping the correct totems (again, not tremor unless the class facing you would fear you; my DK doesn't have fear) - also your pally has bubble but you don't seem to ever use it ? (I shouldn't help but I'm confident like for the other advice you got and ignored or took 2 months to get to it won't affect you) - also there is no point in getting a level 40 or 50 mob "helping" you (I think a few times you tried to get some crocs on me by sacryfing one of your guys - it doesn't do anything to me; on the contrary it can help me because I can have a mob that doesn't die right away to carry diseases I can then spread to your guys)

I wonder where you'll go next :-)

[Owltoid]

Sam, assuming you haven't been wasting your level-grants on low levels, why don't you take 1/2 your force and continue leveling them to 60 and then boost the rest? I know there has been a ton of helpful advice that you've ignored, and I assume you'll do the same with my comment, but I do want you to succeed so I hope you start taking an optimal path.

[Moorea]

How much was repair for 26 spirit rez btw ?

[elsegundo]

i keep forgetting about sam...

i'll meet him one day when he's much higher leveled i gather. lol

[Sam DeathWalker]

I have about 300 gold total on all my guys (I made a killing off the Xmas items lol), so spirit rez means nothing.

Not sure where I going next yet, might try some aoe at the camps by the sea, not sure though, level 37 opens up a lot of quests.

Well doh I dont have the wind totem yet have to get it seeing the quest is so easy.

I have been using all my grants, I don't waste any. I am leveling my end of chain guys with more quests then the others and then they just grant back up the chain. No more waste for me, I need to get to 60 this time. Like on my bottem 5 I did the whole croc chain. Basically every two levels the end guy gets everyone else gets one......

[glo]

I have been using all my grants, I don't waste any. I am leveling my end of chain guys with more quests then the others and then they just grant back up the chain. No more waste for me, I need to get to 60 this time. Like on my bottem 5 I did the whole croc chain. Basically every two levels the end guy gets everyone else gets one......If I were to ever consider doing a /facepalm this would be the post.

You wasted all those level grants! With every post you make your "legacy" truly does become more complete. At this point you have really only done about 25 levels and that is with RAF(that's about 2-3 nights of play). When/if you hit 60 your leveling is going to completely stop.

[glo]

Ya a single level 60 DK did me in ... I see oppenet with 5-6K hp and figure I should take him though but well.

Well after everyone left I finished up this zone I thinks. Lowest is level 37 now, and 2 guys got achivment 50 quests done. Hopefully at 40 Ill have enough HP that some of these aoe's wont do me in so fast.I wouldn't count on it, you weren't even living long enough for an actual tick the initial damage was killing you.

[Tasty]

Lol so now people are getting trolled in game as well as out :P

[valkry]

I don't adore him. I know all about Sam, but it's more fun to bag the people who try to insult him, there are already enough doing that, I prefer not go with the main crowd. Plus it's funy watching you try to defend what you are doing and claiming it's not pvp.You must be real fun to hang out with, do you get this worked up when people joke around in real life? Relax already.

I'm not trying to defend anything I'm doing, I'm playing a video game I pay to play and having fun. As far as claiming it's not pvp you have never seen such a comment from me, you are mistaken.
Of course I get 'this' worked up in rl with mates... cos 'this' worked up isn't very much at all. I'm enjoying this, I don't think I can relax any more. And just so you know, I'm awesome to hang out with.

[Moorea]

Amazingly, some progress: you used bubble grats ! but sadly for you you didn't kill me once tonight... and gave up pretty quick and hearthed... oh well... grats on 40 on the pally you managed to get before I found you. be careful if you have too many levels apart between your lowest and highest, raf bonus will stop... so you better get those 37 to 38+...

Btw, why the heck to you use 26 toons; (yes I know you have 5x5 computers + 1 but... how do you group 26... makes you do 6x kill quests instead of 5x if you had 25 toons... drop 1 (or add 4 more)...)

[Sam DeathWalker]

Pally invited the 5 group leaders and they invited down their group chain.

I dont use raf on the pally but group the pally (for tagging) with the last 2 on two group chains. So 4 in the main group get exp. Once they get a level they grant levels up their group chain. As pally is always in the exp group she getting more then enough anyways, and 5 guys can raf grant levels to her also lol ...

So basically I just have to level up 2 guys in each group ...

Did well with aoe's before you came killed 4-6 at a time easy.

[glo]

Amazingly, some progress: you used bubble grats ! but sadly for you you didn't kill me once tonight... and gave up pretty quick and hearthed... oh well... grats on 40 on the pally you managed to get before I found you. be careful if you have too many levels apart between your lowest and highest, raf bonus will stop... so you better get those 37 to 38+...

Btw, why the heck to you use 26 toons; (yes I know you have 5x5 computers + 1 but... how do you group 26... makes you do 6x kill quests instead of 5x if you had 25 toons... drop 1 (or add 4 more)...)

So you are the reason he was in TB all night, give someone else a shot would ya? :D

[Sam DeathWalker]

Why waste time, I have to maximize my raf time, and there is no question at this point that even one level 60ish DK can take me easy.

There is lot to do, got all my new spells, got my pally his plate armor, did some professions. Always something to do.

The next place I am going to will be in Horde territory where yur weak guys will be prime targets for some high level Horde players.

[Moorea]

As someone else pointed out; using raf gift levels on such low level is a waste but hey... it's your time/money

Also you didn't answer why you have 26 instead of 25 or 30 characters: again, for all kill quests; let's say "kill 10 X" with 26 toons you have to kill 60 X while you only had to kill 50 X with 25; see how that extra toon makes your leveling 20% slower ? or again you could add 4 more to 30 for the same xp cost.

Anyway...


ps: there are no "horde territory" at level 40 and you're the weak one ;-)

[puppychow]

taking bets on what level Sam will be when his RAF runs out in (40?) days -- I'm betting level 47. Oh, the agony of 50-60 without RAF...

[glo]

Why waste time, I have to maximize my raf time, and there is no question at this point that even one level 60ish DK can take me easy.

There is lot to do, got all my new spells, got my pally his plate armor, did some professions. Always something to do.

The next place I am going to will be in Horde territory where yur weak guys will be prime targets for some high level Horde players.Remember how great gifting level 3 was when you are grinding out 59. This is where those elementary school math classes really pay off.

There are no level 40 horde or alliance zones unless you are planning on staying in town. Everything is contested the rest of the way out.

I've only wiped once on your server so far and that is only because skull level players graveyard zerged me, don't worry about me. I sincerely hope you are going to STV next, that is going to be hilarious beyond all belief!

BTW, you have a fan, she says your diaper is sexy and had a question. She says to ask Sam "What he'll be putting in his Crock pot tonight and whether he eats it straight from the pot or uses the paper plates". I assured her you would never waste a paper plate or the time involved in the dishing. This did bring a striking thought to mind, don't know if you have every thought of it but imagine what you are doing to the person that finds your body. You in your loincloth, homemade sex swing/computer desk on you, and a half eaten crock pot of unidentifiable meat. You are going to mess someone up for life. Do your prostitutes check up on you? At least they would be used to seeing some freaky shit.

[Sam DeathWalker]

I can get another 26 accounts in april when my 6 months runs out and raf yet again lol ... So its not like my raf will ever run out. I still have my EQ accounts active and I haven't played in 8 months ... once I freeze those I have enough monies for another 26 accounts (well probably 25, dont need two main tanks).

I have 26 because I have 6 computers. I play full screen and flip as needed (although no need to flip much anymore as keyclone sends the command to background anyways). I have each group on 5 computers and the main on the main computer, I have a single flip to next key so I can flip to any of the 5 in each group but the main computer always stays on the paliden, plus I play in 1600X1200 (have to be 4X3 so that I can set everything on the main compouter and send it to the 5 others which are at 1280 X 960), with all effects on on the main.

abc
dze

So z is the main monitor/computer and the 5 groups are a,b,c,d,e

You guys keep saying higher levels are harder, but you don't mention that you have so many more tools to work with at the higher levels, and you have more gold, and you are able to move around faster, and you have better aoe capability.

Last time I wasted a lot of raf granting, I don't plan to waste any this time. Im going to get as high as fast as I can and worry about the higher levels later.

aa raf ab raf ac raf ad raf ae

Assume all are level 55 with all their levels granted.

AE and AD team with Paliden and aoe their way to Level 59. AD grants two levels to AC making him 57, he then grants a level to AB making him 56.

So by leveling up 2 guys 4 levels I also get one guy up 2 levels and another up 1 and another 1/2 kinda. Then I can do say a collection quest on Just AC so he can grant more to AB etc.

Also as 5 accounts feed the Paliden account when I am done Ill have a bunch of levels to grant to maybe a mage or something new on that account, probabaly get him to 60 instantly.

[Sam DeathWalker]

see how that extra toon makes your leveling 20% slower

Thats not exactly correct. I group the Pal with the 2 lowest groups 2 last in chain guys. Mostly for tagging purposes. Not really sure but because of the raf granting there is no way one guy is costing me 20percent. Also thats for kill X quests only. I dont need to do any quests with the pally at all with the way my raf is set up (5 accounts feeding the pal account), and Pal is still the highest level.



Hummm

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If you have 7 accounts with the above raf set up you only have to level up 4. Because two accounts feed b and c and they in turn feed a, you never need exp on ab or c. humm m

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31 seems very optimal, and you only have to level up 16 and get 15 leveled free. Not to mention 31 is optimal for me also humm .

I have no intention of doing anything in STV lol ...

[Moorea]

taking bets on what level Sam will be when his RAF runs out in (40?) days -- I'm betting level 47. Oh, the agony of 50-60 without RAF...

It depends when I get bored of waiting for him/finding him/killing him; if others find this fun too it would be 40 .. but even without pvp, at the rate I think his lowest will be 45 tops

Sam how do you reconcile "I signup for 6months pay in advance" with "I renew my RAF every 3 months" - loosing a lot of money there ?

I guess I give up on trying to explain why 24 or 25 or 30 toons is much better than 26

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well I did the first raf, then transfered to new accounts for the 2nd raf but they also transfered the time left on the old accounts to the new. This time when the accounts run out of raf Ill wait untill they also run out of time (april) and I can get a 3month plan and new raf accounts if needed.

[Los]

Go sam go! Get them buggers, hit 50ish, then have the last laugh on those dk startups ;), make them level before they can attack you :P

[valkry]

26 is a good numer for him to run with his current computer set up.

That's it in a nutshell.

[Moorea]

26 is a good numer for him to run with his current computer set up.

That's it in a nutshell.

That's like saying that I'll play soccer with a team of 20 people because I have 20 seats in my bus...

[valkry]

26 is a good numer for him to run with his current computer set up.

That's it in a nutshell.

That's like saying that I'll play soccer with a team of 20 people because I have 20 seats in my bus...

Well, considering that soccer teams do take 20 people or more to games, I'd say that's accurate.

Anything else?

Do you also want to say, "that's like saying I'll play wow with 4 characters because I have 4 accounts"?

[Moorea]

Whatever, maybe my analogy is not the best but my point is that it's not the whatever his # of accounts or # of computers which should drive the grouping or playing - good numbers are multiple of 5 (max group size) and/or raid sizes - but 26 just doesn't make sense

ps: sam is hopeless he took him 2 hours to go to orgrimmar and find the weapon trainer - then finally he headed to thousand needles where I promptly killed him and he logged out right away without even fighting... so sad... and not very fun. Still level 37 - btw - what is your /played on your level 37s ?

[Jezebel]

i thought these forums existed to offer help and encouragement to fellow boxers?

all i see is a bunch of juveniles trying to talk themselves up by putting someone else down? disappointing that the admins here dont weed these people out before this turns into another wow forum.

[SilverSlice]

it does take quite a bit of willpower and endurance to level up that many char.
goes without saying, it will take ages to reach 80 and have proper gear

reaching about lvl 40 within the timeframe he have done aint a shabby task in it self

Silver

[Moorea]

i thought these forums existed to offer help and encouragement to fellow boxers?

all i see is a bunch of juveniles trying to talk themselves up by putting someone else down? disappointing that the admins here dont weed these people out before this turns into another wow forum.

A) this is "off topic" thread - not the help thread

B) Sam is special; if you don't know; you're not a regular - go read his posts about being the best wow player in the world "soon" back in August 2008


it does take quite a bit of willpower and endurance to level up that many char.
goes without saying, it will take ages to reach 80 and have proper gear

reaching about lvl 40 within the timeframe he have done aint a shabby task in it self

Silver

right, 1 level 40 and 25 level 37-38 in 6 months... it's amazing indeed... how can it be slower ?

[Jezebel]

A) this is "off topic" thread - not the help thread

B) Sam is special; if you don't know; you're not a regular - go read his posts about being the best wow player in the world "soon" back in August 2008
i wasnt aware that a thread being in a particular section of the forum makes it alright to harrass and degrade other members.

i dont know what he may or may not have said in the past. i do know that your comments and the way you conduct yourself on this forum and in-game reflect poorly on you, not him.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Ya then I was able to complete a quest right under yur nose lol ... while you looking at my guys I ran one to the quest ender then raf 5 others there lol ... And you try and kill my pal as she accepts the raf transport lolzors.

Its clear enough you can kill me at will with a level 60 DK ... I dont have an answer to DandD at that levels, and for some reasons my computers are stuttering when you cast it and I dont move out of it fast enough.

Clearly though you are not getting any higher or getting your characters better, just wasting time following me around or killing me. Ya Org was a joke dropping follow all the time.

All I need do is set up to divide into two groups and exp in zones far apart. You can lock one down but the others will be free to exp. Might have to raf up another Pal or something. might even be smarter to exp with two groups anyways....






the way you conduct yourself on this forum and in-game reflect poorly on you


disappointing that the admins here dont weed these people out

Clearly Jezebel has the wisdom of one greater then her age, and you would do well to heed her words.

[Los]

i thought these forums existed to offer help and encouragement to fellow boxers?

all i see is a bunch of juveniles trying to talk themselves up by putting someone else down? disappointing that the admins here dont weed these people out before this turns into another wow forum.

A) this is "off topic" thread - not the help thread

B) Sam is special; if you don't know; you're not a regular - go read his posts about being the best wow player in the world "soon" back in August 2008


it does take quite a bit of willpower and endurance to level up that many char.
goes without saying, it will take ages to reach 80 and have proper gear

reaching about lvl 40 within the timeframe he have done aint a shabby task in it self

Silver

right, 1 level 40 and 25 level 37-38 in 6 months... it's amazing indeed... how can it be slower ?Yes he is a dick because he is slow, wauw you must be such a cool person to hang out with. Unless you walk to slow ofc.

[beyond-tec]

this whole thread is a shame for this forum.
most of you ppl behave like 10yo flamers on the general wow forums.

sad to see such a thread here - I've thought we're open minded
but what I read here is not more than a common anti multiboxing flame
which we'd usually screenshot and post here to laugh about.

sad... very very sad..

[elsegundo]

this whole thread is a shame for this forum.
most of you ppl behave like 10yo flamers on the general wow forums.

sad to see such a thread here - I've thought we're open minded
but what I read here is not more than a common anti multiboxing flame
which we'd usually screenshot and post here to laugh about.

sad... very very sad..although i know there is some hate flying around, i do believe this thread is quite entertaining and builds solidity within the community. those of us who are camping sam are either doing it for fun/sport, or doing it just to spite the guy. the former is good and gives us all a reason to be here, to laugh and talk about our multiboxing experience. the latter, however does seem evil at first, but it does bring about a more solid multiboxer, hopefully. we'll just see how far this goes.

[Moorea]

All I need do is set up to divide into two groups and exp in zones far apart. You can lock one down but the others will be free to exp. Might have to raf up another Pal or something. might even be smarter to exp with two groups anyways....


I'm glad I force you to think creatively - but that wouldn't be 26 boxing anymore would it :-) It does bring up another question though; why do you need 1 pally when you have 25 shamans ? 1 pally with 4 shamans is useful for PVE but for 25 ...

Oh if you have 2 groups; I can have 2 death knights :-)

You're free to beg for me to stop, I will if you admit you're a fool (and yes I'm a bigger fool for trying to make my point... but I didn't claim to be the best wow player in the world)


About the whinners who don't like the thread, nobody forces you to read it, it's a discussion about PVP tactics for 26 vs 1 higher level player. Also you can get on your high horse and come help Sam out if you're so nice ?

[elsegundo]

About the whinners who don't like the thread, nobody forces you to read it, it's a discussion about PVP tactics for 26 vs 1 higher level player. Also you can get on your high horse and come help Sam out if you're so nice ?i have yet to see this. too bad a bunch of us already made toons on Blood Furnace just to play each other. but this would be great if someone did decide to help sam out. but then again, he's not asking for help. and i think he's pretty content without it.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well we will see I can't spend to many lost raf days wasting time. Still I didn't sign up for a pvp server to not pvp.

[Moorea]

Sam is on at the moment if someone wants to pick up the ganking good fight (I need to get work done so I can't)

[glo]

i thought these forums existed to offer help and encouragement to fellow boxers?

all i see is a bunch of juveniles trying to talk themselves up by putting someone else down? disappointing that the admins here dont weed these people out before this turns into another wow forum.People are having fun and I don't like it, ban them, ban them!!

[glo]

Sam is on at the moment if someone wants to pick up the ganking good fight (I need to get work done so I can't)Get your work done, I'll be here for a bit ;)

[beyond-tec]

i thought these forums existed to offer help and encouragement to fellow boxers?

all i see is a bunch of juveniles trying to talk themselves up by putting someone else down? disappointing that the admins here dont weed these people out before this turns into another wow forum.People are having fun and I don't like it, ban them, ban them!!Glo:
There is no point me wasting my time debating with you. Insulting is far quicker/easier. Fuck you.


I'm not flaming you, as you said "I'm just having fun"

The same fun Wilbur had in this thread.

So, as you said, this is fun for you, so I quoted what wilbur said to Sam and say the same to you.

hey, ... it's just fun

fuck you!





you see the difference between fun and the flaming in this thread now?

[Wilbur]

So the cracks are starting to appear, whats the cause? Sam.

I told you so.

If we could just hurry up and ban him now, we could all get back to how things were :)

[glo]

i thought these forums existed to offer help and encouragement to fellow boxers?

all i see is a bunch of juveniles trying to talk themselves up by putting someone else down? disappointing that the admins here dont weed these people out before this turns into another wow forum.People are having fun and I don't like it, ban them, ban them!!Glo:
There is no point me wasting my time debating with you. Insulting is far quicker/easier. Fuck you.


I'm not flaming you, as you said "I'm just having fun"

The same fun Wilbur had in this thread.

So, as you said, this is fun for you, so I quoted what wilbur said to Sam and say the same to you.

hey, ... it's just fun

fuck you!





you see the difference between fun and the flaming in this thread now?Is that supposed to bother me or something? You think some kid yelling the f word a couple times is going to cause some huge revelation in our lives?

Unclench, you are too uptight. If you don't like what we are talking about or how we are talking about it feel free to skip this thread. Actually you might want to skip any threads I am in, you seem easily upset.

Sam doesn't seem like he wants to play anymore, he logs off as soon as you kill him :(

What happens if you smack the worlds greatest wow player around on a regular basis? Does he drop down to second greatest? Third? Does he get tired of paying $300 a month in subs and not being able to play? A little less arrogance or bragging and I doubt anyone would have even bothered to come see you.

[Moorea]

A little less arrogance or bragging and I doubt anyone would have even bothered to come see you.

Actually I'd have come and cheer

[beyond-tec]

Is that supposed to bother me or something? You think some kid yelling the f word a couple times is going to cause some huge revelation in our lives?

Unclench, you are too uptight. If you don't like what we are talking about or how we are talking about it feel free to skip this thread. Actually you might want to skip any threads I am in, you seem easily upset.

nice :)

I'm too uptight? I'm easily upset? I shall skip any thread you're in?
I shall skip this thread when I don't like how you are talking?

I've talken the same way like others in this thread, but the difference is,
this time it's not against Sam, it's against you.

..and so I'm upset...?

looks like you got a problem that I've spoken directly to you and not to the whole crowd :)

and believe me.. I'm not a 12yo flaming kid crying to f-word to get some attention or to be cool, I'm far away from that =)



my words were directed to the ppl writing in this thread, sadly for you, you were the first one
who defended this thread so I directed my posting to you :)

this thread got nothing to do with usual threads we got here - this is just a collection of
disrespecting Sam, flaming Sam and trying to abuse him while camping him on a PvP Server
to stop him from leveling so his RAF time ends. (nothing against camping him on a pvp server
he choose playing on a pvp realm so ganking and camping is just fine but this imho is no longer
a sport or fun - this is more like witch-burning midage).

where is the problem in letting him play?
where is the problem in ignoring his posts when you don't like him?
If he doesn't ask for tips and doesn't respond to your tips, why force him to do so ?
Why do you (not especially you, more the ppl writing in this thread) try to force Sam to play the way
you play or the way that it's best / most effective? why don't you just let him play and have fun?

@support:
I can't support him, I'm playing on EU realms, I can't create chars on US realms furthermore I'm
not playing that much atm because of my job and I'm currently buying a house.

[glo]

Is that supposed to bother me or something? You think some kid yelling the f word a couple times is going to cause some huge revelation in our lives?

Unclench, you are too uptight. If you don't like what we are talking about or how we are talking about it feel free to skip this thread. Actually you might want to skip any threads I am in, you seem easily upset.

nice :)

I'm too uptight? I'm easily upset? I shall skip any thread you're in?
I shall skip this thread when I don't like how you are talking?

I've talken the same way like others in this thread, but the difference is,
this time it's not against Sam, it's against you.

..and so I'm upset...?

looks like you got a problem that I've spoken directly to you and not to the whole crowd :)

and believe me.. I'm not a 12yo flaming kid crying to f-word to get some attention or to be cool, I'm far away from that =)



my words were directed to the ppl writing in this thread, sadly for you, you were the first one
who defended this thread so I directed my posting to you :)

this thread got nothing to do with usual threads we got here - this is just a collection of
disrespecting Sam, flaming Sam and trying to abuse him while camping him on a PvP Server
to stop him from leveling so his RAF time ends. (nothing against camping him on a pvp server
he choose playing on a pvp realm so ganking and camping is just fine but this imho is no longer
a sport or fun - this is more like witch-burning midage).

where is the problem in letting him play?
where is the problem in ignoring his posts when you don't like him?
If he doesn't ask for tips and doesn't respond to your tips, why force him to do so ?
Why do you (not especially you, more the ppl writing in this thread) try to force Sam to play the way
you play or the way that it's best / most effective? why don't you just let him play and have fun?

@support:
I can't support him, I'm playing on EU realms, I can't create chars on US realms furthermore I'm
not playing that much atm because of my job and I'm currently buying a house.This guy is the #1 wow player out of 11million people, many of which have quite literally been playing this game for years. He doesn't need your help or anyone elses. In a few short months he has set the world ablaze (the world of warcraft that is). As amazing as this guy is I'm surprised we don't fall over dead just zoning in to the zone he is in!

He's never had a character over the level 40 and talks down to people clearing heroics on their own and boxing in 25 man raids yet you guys feel he needs a defender. The last thing this guy needs is people sticking up for him, that's how he has got to the point where he is cursed with this amazing arrogance coupled with a mind numbing level of ignorance about that which he claims to be the best at!

The simple fact of the matter is he issued a challenge and it appears to have been accepted by a few people. Now I challenge you to take a few minutes to actually look at his past posts and tell me you wouldn't like to kick him in his smug diaper wearing ass ;)

[shaeman]

Multiboxers doing their best to interfere with other multiboxers enjoyment - tis truly a sad day.

It always amazes me how the anonymity of the internet allows people to behave so badly.

In the real world you have to face the consequences of such rudeness, online you can just say what you want, do what you want and never really have to worry about it.

So Sam says he's the best WoW player in the world - What does that matter. It doesn't change the fact of whether he is or isn't.

Why does it rile you so? Why is it such a personal affront?

We see threads on this forum about how non boxers go out of their way to spoil the enjoyment of others and yet here we have a select few actively doing that to one of our own.

Sam really isn't the problem here, and banning him wouldn't solve it. The next non conformist to come along would likely be met with equal childishness.

Seriously folks - re-read your posts and ask yourself, is that really something to be proud of, is that really the face you want to present.

[jinx08]

Griefing and flaming are two words that spring to mind.

Bullying has no place in society in any way, shape or form.

It's a shame I'm in the EU rather than US. I'd love to make a DK squad and then corpse camp a couple of the posters here... :)

[glo]

Griefing and flaming are two words that spring to mind.

Bullying has no place in society in any way, shape or form.

It's a shame I'm in the EU rather than US. I'd love to make a DK squad and then corpse camp a couple of the posters here... :)And we would all have fun, playing a game.

[beyond-tec]

d love to make a DK squad and then corpse camp a couple of the posters here... :)"
And we would all have fun, playing a game.
Not everyone would have fun because it's a little bit about the money, too

e.g. I've bought 2 additional accounts to get a new RAF.

So I got 90 days to level chars. Within the RAF time I got some personal goals which I want to finish
before the time is up. So players which corpse-camp me for hours and continue doing that for weeks
will cost me $$$ because when the time is up I have to transfer the chars to new accounts so I can
keep on leveling them with the RAF bonus. Especially when I don't have that much time to play.

leveling without that bonus is just a pain in the ass.

That's why I play on PVE realms but even on these realms I currently got some serious issues with the
instance servers on the EU realms which are overloaded and therefore you can't do instances on weekends.

sometimes you need to take a look over the rim of your teacup to see the things from the sight of other ppl.

[jinx08]

So the cracks are starting to appear, whats the cause? Sam.

I told you so.

If we could just hurry up and ban him now, we could all get back to how things were :)You, sir, are taking this way too far. If, as glo said, its all in the spirit of the game, then you have taken this to a personal level. I've read quite a few posts from various threads from you regarding Sam, and what ever kind of vendetta you have against him, I really don't think its welcome here on these forums.

Yes Sam can be pretty arrogant and at times damn right cocky, but I for one find his posts quite amusing to read.

[shaeman]

I've read his posts and I've read your posts and to be honest I don't have a burning desire to waste my time trying to cause either of you grief in game or out.

Nobody here believes for a second that Sam is the best player in wow (apart perhaps from Sam).

You could argue back on forth on whether he is or isn't, no problem with that - in fact it has been done.

But seriously, rolling a DK, for the sole reason of stopping someone else achieving anything in game, Showing pride that you will cost this guy more money and hopefully get him to quit playing a game is nothing but a personal attack.

Then of course there is your post with this in it - "BTW, you have a fan, she says your diaper is sexy and had a question. She says to ask Sam "What he'll be putting in his Crock pot tonight and whether he eats it straight from the pot or uses the paper plates". I assured her you would never waste a paper plate or the time involved in the dishing. This did bring a striking thought to mind, don't know if you have every thought of it but imagine what you are doing to the person that finds your body. You in your loincloth, homemade sex swing/computer desk on you, and a half eaten crock pot of unidentifiable meat. You are going to mess someone up for life. Do your prostitutes check up on you? At least they would be used to seeing some freaky shit. "


Again that seems a tad more personal than just having fun playing a game.

[Knobley]

Meanwhile...

http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Aegwynn&n=We%20Are%20Prepared&p=1

Why did you stop at 70? Are the accounts upgraded to lich king?

Also, you might want to look at spending some talent points... just a thought.

Knobley

[Sam DeathWalker]

I said I am the best EQ1 Player (pre-SoD), I also said that the way to measure who is the best player in WoW is by who can "solo-box" the strongest mob. I can kill a level 42 mob. I kinda doubt that makes me anywhere near the best at this time. Probably puts me at about 6 millionth best. (But hey I went from 11 millionth best to 6 millionth in 4-5 months).

I do believe that at some point in time, in the future, I will have Prepared as my only competition, similar as I started out in EQ killing level 1 mobs with 2 guys and ended up (years later) with the strongest collection of characters in that game that I can play by myself at the same time and that I leveled up myself from level one in the game (pre SoD).

Camp all you want, I still level up every day. I notice that if you log prior to being attacked you dont get killed lol .... Ya there is no possible way for me to kill your guys so Im just logging when I get attacked by higher levels, I got tons to do, macros, build faster computers, read about aoe spots, read about talents, read about spells, post on forums, work on other things, watch movies, eat .... sleep lol

And like I say my RAF is unlimited. I just freeze my EQ subs and I have funds to buy 26 more accounts.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Aegwynn&n=Prepared

Ya how do you get level 70 with 16 talent points spent? Maybe he has not done them since the reset. Maybe his funds is not allowing WotLk right now.... And he seems to have only 32 accounts.
1600 pvp kills though ... but no professions. I have over 170 on most all professions.

[elsegundo]

you cant measure "best" no matter how you try to qualify it.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Someone has to be the best player .... And who can kill the strongest PvE mob seems a resonable measure.

[elsegundo]

Someone has to be the best player .... And who can kill the strongest PvE mob seems a resonable measure.Good luck on your goal. im sure many will disagree on your own qualificaion of "best" in this case, as am i. i think its best to have goals for yourself and not goals to claim yourself as the "best" at something.

[Xorn]

So the cracks are starting to appear, whats the cause? Sam.

I told you so.

If we could just hurry up and ban him now, we could all get back to how things were :)
If we could just hurry up and burn that witch now, we could all get back to how things were!
Modern methods, that's how to treat people you dont like huh?
For crying out loud, ignore him if you don't like him - nobody is forcing you to read his threads or anything - just simply ignore him or is it so much fun behaving like children?

Please ban him because he's not acting like I want him to, he's stupid I don't want to play with him any longer!!! X(
(might contain a bit sarcasm)

But .. whatever, do what you have to do - it's not even funny any longer.

Xorn

[Moorea]

I also said that the way to measure who is the best player in WoW is by who can "solo-box" the strongest mob. I can kill a level 42 mob. I kinda doubt that makes me anywhere near the best at this time. Probably puts me at about 6 millionth best. (But hey I went from 11 millionth best to 6 millionth in 4-5 months).

No it makes you dead last as I don't think anyone else using RAF for 6 months would still be level 37


Someone has to be the best player .... And who can kill the strongest PvE mob seems a resonable measure.

Which shows that 6 months later you still have no clue what the game is about

[Moorea]

Congratulations on you uninterrupted leveling : you started with 8 level 37, 16 level 38, 1 level 39 and 1 level 40 and 6 hours later you got 1 40, 9 39 and 16 38 ! grats on all the dings !

[Sam DeathWalker]

Ya no quests, just aoe in the world, and it was like 3-4 hours of actually killing mobs. Lowest guy is 38 ... Only 22 more levels to go to end raf lol.

Im milking the raf grant a level thing heavy. Like 3 guys got dings from killing and all the other got it from raf lol ....

My main not to shabby, got him all plate cept for the helm.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ner%27zhul&n=Samdeathwkzz



Well then who do you think is the best wow player in the world and why?


No it makes you dead last as I don't think anyone else using RAF for 6 months would still be level 37 No one else did 26 guys, cept prepared. Also I have 150plus, and some at 225 and I think like 300 in skinning, in most all professions, that more then Prepared.

Also you are assuming that they start with a level 80 to help them or unlimited gold, you're not talking about people starting from level 1 with no gold and no other accounts to aid them.

[Moorea]

Ic so you actually didn't ding even on 26... you're wasting your RAF levels... so you're really a 13 boxer... in 6 months... level 38; awesome...

ps: getting professions leveled to 150 or 225 is trivial and nothing to boast about - I think at your 1 year anniversary you still won't be level 70 if you stick to your method

[Sam DeathWalker]

Better to use them up then waste them like I did last time. Well basically I went from level 22 to level 38 in 2 months .. Well not great, but I was doing quests as suggested. Still I have 30 days left we see how it goes. Two of my guys have the 50 quest achivment so you can't say I not been doing quests.... We will see my guys are a ton stonger now then they were and the mobs aren't all that much stonger. I just need to get to 60 before raf goes ... but maybe I have to raf for the third time, big deal.

[glo]

Ya no quests, just aoe in the world, and it was like 3-4 hours of actually killing mobs. Lowest guy is 38 ... Only 22 more levels to go to end raf lol.

Im milking the raf grant a level thing heavy. Like 3 guys got dings from killing and all the other got it from raf lol ....
If you were "milking" it wouldn't that mean you were getting the most you could out of it? If you wanted to maximize the grant levels you wouldn't use them before 40.
My main not to shabby, got him all plate cept for the helm.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ner%27zhul&n=Samdeathwkzz
He is scrubtastic! Gear doesn't even matter much for solo players leveling, for boxers if you are going to spend more then 10 minutes working on gear while you are leveling you are better off using that 10 minutes to level naked ;)
Well then who do you think is the best wow player in the world and why? Why does anyone have to be the best? It's an MMO, it's not exactly the type of game you play to be the top guy on a ladder. You yell over and over and over about being "the best". Is there not even the tiniest part of your delusional little mind that stops to think that just maybe a guy that has never even leveled a character let alone played any type of end game PVE or PVP content at all, even once might not be "the best"?

I seem to recall they had an arena tournament last year, they gave out a bunch of trophies and prize money at blizzcon. I would say you could argue that one of these kids are the best at that part of the game at least. The guild mate that farms herbs and makes sure flasks and pots are ready so the casuals that only have a couple hours a couple times a week can raid, that is someone I could consider "the best". I would say anyone that doesn't post all over the internet yelling "look at me look at me, I'm the best" type shit is better then you.


No one else did 26 guys, cept prepared. Also I have 150plus, and some at 225 and I think like 300 in skinning, in most all professions, that more then Prepared.

Also you are assuming that they start with a level 80 to help them or unlimited gold, you're not talking about people starting from level 1 with no gold and no other accounts to aid them. Psst, all of us started at level 1, most of us without RAF or 26 accounts.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Why does anyone have to be the best?

So basically everyone is as good as everyone else.

Odd that people even bother to get better gear (errr the same gear as everyone else as no gear is the "best"), or bother to try and win at pvp if at the end of the day everyone is just as good as everyone else anyway.

How can my guy be "scrubtastic" if everyone is equal?

And why should you 5-box when you are no better a player then any random single box player?



The guild mate that farms herbs and makes sure flasks and pots are ready so the casuals that only have a couple hours a couple times a week can raid, that is someone I could consider "the best".

So the goal of WoW would be to spend the most time you can helping others who have less time then you do to play. And yet instead of farming herbs to help casuals you spend your time trying to gank me. Well ummm ya.

[Moorea]

Let's stick to fighting because discussions are depressing.... can you log in so we can fight 26:1 ?

[Sam DeathWalker]

I see no logic in losing more then once or twice to what is obviously a superior force. I would think that most would figure that a single level 55 (well you have magic shell so you are surly higher then 55) should win against 26 level 39ish. But then again I could log in at any moment so you best be vigilant and ready to gank as you don't want to miss any ganking opportunity.

Am I reading things right you have to be level 68 to have the anti-magic shell, lol no wonder you win easy.

This is yur guy:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ner%27zhul&n=Loja

[glo]

So basically everyone is as good as everyone else.
Now you are starting to get it. You are a person, just like the millions of others that play the game. You spend a little more money then most but that doesn't make you any better or worse then anyone else. If that is what you like to do to have fun then go for it.
How can my guy be "scrubtastic" if everyone is equal? Everyone is equally scrubtastic at the low levels unless they waste a lot of time working on extremely disposable gear or they are a twink. In your case I guess collecting gear at 40 isn't a bad idea, it will last you a couple months. Your average player would out level that gear in a few hours to a couple days.
And why should you 5-box when you are no better a player then any random single box player? The short answer would be "to have fun". I play in the off hours as you do, I like to do 5 man content, I have no desire to pug. I do not feel that I am better then anyone else because I multi-box in an MMO.
So the goal of WoW would be to spend the most time you can helping others who have less time then you do to play. Generosity is a trait I find admirable yes. I much prefer a generous person over an arrogant, ignorant, braggart.
And yet instead of farming herbs to help casuals you spend your time trying to gank me. Well ummm ya. Do you know what the word "try" means? As far as spending time there really is little involved in that, I see you are on I log in and kill you at my leisure. You have been immediately logging off lately so there is no real time investment at all. Last night you were actually running by me when I logged in(about 20 yards from where I had left your bodies earlier that day). I was logged in to that server for less then a minute.
Odd that people even bother to get better gear (errr the same gear as everyone else as no gear is the "best"), or bother to try and win at pvp if at the end of the day everyone is just as good as everyone else anyway. The idea that people are playing to have fun and progress at a game has never even entered your mind has it? You sit in that weird little dungeon thinking everyone is as sad as you are all the while building yourself up in your own mind. A healthy ego is one thing, you sir need some therapy. You are just a guy playing a video game(or trying to play as the case may be).

[Sam DeathWalker]

Ya I really believe all you say.

Put "Everyone is the same. Free Potions for Casuals!" in yur sig instead of your characters then.

[keyclone]

come on guys, let's play nice.

[glo]

Ya I really believe all you say.

Put "Everyone is the same. Free Potions for Casuals!" in yur sig instead of your characters then.Out of all that all you got was "free potions for casuals" ?

I didn't even say that I do stuff like that, your reading comprehension is poor. This is a person that helps there guildmates progress through raids with a selfless act. What I said is I would consider that person "the best" before some newb killing crocs and murlocs in Swamp of Sorrows for weeks yelling "look at me I'm the best".

I don't know what you would have to do to get it through that brick you call a skull, maybe use a hammer, but you are just a guy playing a game. You are playing it very poorly at a low level. Get over yourself.

[Sam DeathWalker]

I said I was 6th millionth best. But I'm moving up MOOOOHAHAHA!

[algol]

I said I was 6th millionth best. But I'm moving up MOOOOHAHAHA!Sam,

I got my 50th level 60 last Tuesday. Let me know when you catch up.

Algol

[Yamio]

ROFL OMG!!!

Responding to threads with Sam's name in them is pointless. A bad read if you will. Sam's threads always end up in the same train wreck, time and time again. Almost like deja vu.

He brags; others put him down for it; he doesn't care what the hell they say and lets them know it; others start frothing at the mouth at his apathy of what he thinks of them; others begin tag-teaming (one will hand off to another and so on), until they're all worn down and have become insane. Then in frustration, they'll back off one by one, and somebody else picks up the torch and the whole thing starts over again.

This has happened too many times to count. That shit is funny. I don't care who you are.

To all of you who attempt to argue with Sam, (we're gonna talk right down to earth...in a language...that everybody here...can easily understand...)

SAM DOESN'T HEAR YOU!!! YOU DON'T POSSESS THE ABILITY TO CHANGE HIS MIND! THAT ABILITY DOESN'T EXIST! HE DOESN'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK NOR WHAT YOU SAY! YOU'LL BE TAKEN AWAY IN A RUBBER TRUCK BEFORE YOU'LL GET THROUGH TO HIM! YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME!!

Rock on Sam!! Bodies of your enemies, bony weary and jaws agape, lay about your feet, vanquished by only your battle hardened skin...

[Sam DeathWalker]

Change my mind about what?



I got my 50th level 60 last Tuesday. Let me know when you catch up.

Thats fine and nice but how many potions did you make for casuals last weeK?

[Yamio]

About anything Sam. Nothing to see here. Move along please.

[Moorea]

SAM DOESN'T HEAR YOU!!! YOU DON'T POSSESS THE ABILITY TO CHANGE HIS MIND! THAT ABILITY DOESN'T EXIST! HE DOESN'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK NOR WHAT YOU SAY! YOU'LL BE TAKEN AWAY IN A RUBBER TRUCK BEFORE YOU'LL GET THROUGH TO HIM! YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME!!

LOL ! you're right!

I'll stick to ganking his team, without arguing... if only he'd log on...

[algol]

Thats fine and nice but how many potions did you make for casuals last weeK?Never really had much use for potions, other than mana pots in particularly long boss fights. Very little at all since they've mostly locked that use out. As a result my last alchemist was around patch 1.8 give or take.

[glo]

I said I was 6th millionth best. But I'm moving up MOOOOHAHAHA!I still believe you give yourself too much credit but it's a start.

[glo]

Change my mind about what?
Let's play a game. Which wow item does Sam most remind you of.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=12365

Would be my first choice followed closely by..

http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=5025

[Yamio]

Glo~

That made me laugh.

[Moorea]

Change my mind about what?
Let's play a game. Which wow item does Sam most remind you of.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=12365

Would be my first choice followed closely by..

http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=5025

Here are my 3 choices: 1 spell, 1 creature, 1 item:

http://thottbot.com/s1010

http://thottbot.com/c17992

http://thottbot.com/i25402

[glo]

That's the first time I have every seen anyone link the third one that was funny. Many people have tried but you succeeded!

[jinx08]

Ok i'm quite an indifferent kind of guy, and always look for the best in everyone. Sam seems like a nice guy, but to be honest i'm a lil disturbed after seeing those pics on flickr though... *Shudder*.

Maybe I can see why some people here have a problem with him...

Just my 2 pence :whistling:

[valkry]

Oh god, you linked from thotbott :(

[Yamio]

Bah! Make sure your anti virus stuff is up to date, use Firefox and NoScript and you're good to go. No need to fear Thottbot/Wowhead/Allahdkaxazd...Allakahda....Allakazham...ah hell, you know what I'm trying to say. ;)

[RobinGBrown]

You won today with a superior force, enjoy while you can cause as some point, like in EQ, guys who used to beat me easy became little more then a corpse used as a building block constructing my path to Glory. (copyright Sam Ferris 2009)
You're starting to sound like a nutjob fundamentalist there Sammy.

Do you make all the little taurens line up and do seig heils to you while you make your speeches?

[Moorea]

Oh god, you linked from thotbott :(
Yes, why is that bad ? Since I read here how Wowhead/EvilSeed/Tim/Mousecloner manipulated thottbot comments to make thottbot look bad and wowhead look good; I try to use thottbot insted of wowhead. I also use yahoo search instead of google, etc... support the underdog !

Back on topic: Sam, you said you want to maximize RAF time, you have time to post and setup new raid disks, but yet you didn't play all weekend so far... I'm in need of my ganking fix :-)

[beyond-tec]

Do you make all the little taurens line up and do seig heils to you while you make your speeches?U sir, are an idiot.

[Knobley]

Let's play a game. Which wow item does Sam most remind you of.
How about this? ('http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=3932')

[Yamio]

Yep. That one works too, Knobley.

[Bigfish]

You're the one who Godwin'ed the thread.

[beyond-tec]

./.

[Wilbur]

5 star rated thread :thumbsup:

[beyond-tec]

Actually there's a difference between idiocy and rudeness, you don't seem to know what it is though.

Also, while we're on the subject of 'being an idiot', addressing someone as 'U sir' is the mark of an incompetent. The whole 'You sir, are an...' phrase is already overused on the internet but to shorten it to 'U sir' is just pathetic.

Edit: just spotted that you're German - sensitive much?Well,

I could argue the short way like wilbur just saying: fuck you :)

or I could try to explain it to you, but you wouldn't understand.

it's the same as if some black kid calling out "nigga" just to be cool or as a phrase while communicating
with his buddys. There is a large difference between this kid and the situation where a white police officer
heading a gun towards the head of a black colored kid while screaming "Freeze, Nigga! Don't move!".

You will never understand what the kid is feeling in this moment - never, unless you're black colored.

so you'll never understand what your sentence means, unless you're german and jewish.


and for my phrase "you sir ..."
english ain't my mothers tongue. I'm trying to write in english so you can understand what I'm saying.
I'm doing this for you, not for me. I can just write down my words in german language. So please stop
discussing about my grammar and my style to write in english, ok?

Else you can cuddle with bablefish everytime you get an answer from me :)

btw. next time you write nazi propaganda calls - write it correct.
You got a grammatical mistake in those lousy two words. :thumbdown:

[glo]

Let's play a game. Which wow item does Sam most remind you of.
How about this? ('http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=3932')If it could cast mirror image x25 and make ridiculous forum posts about how powerful it is we could totally replace Sam.

[Moorea]

I want my sam back !!! (to kill)

[Bigfish]

Actually, I want to see Sam with 26 Armies of the Dead.

[glo]

Actually, I want to see Sam with 26 Armies of the Dead.That's a level 80 spell, I would look for that screen shot around 2011 ish.

[Tasty]

I also said that the way to measure who is the best player in WoW is by who can "solo-box" the strongest mob.

That's "your" way on how to measure it :)


Gonna agree with you wilbur. Totally a 5 star thread :p

[Sam DeathWalker]

Im just upgradeing computers a bit (I have all the parts why not use them). For some reason when Death and Decay hit me my screens seems to slow down (cept the main) and Im not running out of it like I should, hopefully with some improvments Ill be able to run out of it fasts.

Im also getting tons of RL stuff done. More money I make irl the more I can just buy more raf ....



That's "your" way on how to measure it

How do you measure it then?

[Tasty]

Im just upgradeing computers a bit (I have all the parts why not use them). For some reason when Death and Decay hit me my screens seems to slow down (cept the main) and Im not running out of it like I should, hopefully with some improvments Ill be able to run out of it fasts.

Im also getting tons of RL stuff done. More money I make irl the more I can just buy more raf ....



That's "your" way on how to measure it

How do you measure it then?

I don't. I play this game to have fun not to be the best WoW player.

[glo]

Im just upgradeing computers a bit (I have all the parts why not use them). For some reason when Death and Decay hit me my screens seems to slow down (cept the main) and Im not running out of it like I should, hopefully with some improvments Ill be able to run out of it fasts.
Yeah, it's a big mystery why 5 simultaneous AOEs on 26 characters will cause lag. Actually no it's not so mysterious, what I find a mystery is why you don't move when you see one of us coming at you instead of waiting for the aoe to drop. *shrug*


How do you measure it then? I realize many many many people have told you this over the years but there is no way to measure who is the best in a social game. I guess you could have a popularity contest, you would come in about 11 millionth simply because of the douche factor. I'm fairly certain that anyone yelling that they are the best would be pre-disqualified from any type of popularity type contest.

[Yamio]

I've struggled with the thought of how one defines the title of being the best in a social computer game too, and to my chagrin I think I finally have found the answer.

Sam has defined his own goal. We all know that. But this is HIS goal made for his own purposes. That's it. Even thou no one else (or most of us at least) recognizes his definition of the "best", HE recognizes it, therefore that's the only thing that matters. It doesn't matter what the rest of us think.

He needs the title.

It has been said before about always having goals when you're playing to keep the motivation up. Being the best is his motivation, even thou it doesn't matter to the rest of us, it's his goal. He's climbing up an invisible mountain that only he can see, and that's cool. We all have those mountains.

This would also explain why he doesn't crumble under the verbal barrage that's hurled toward him. He probably laughs at some of the vile and hurtful things that have been thrown his way. It keeps him in the spotlight.

Now that I finally understand your motivation and your goal Sam, your shenanigans don't bother me as much as they once did. Brag all you want. You're eccentric, and there's nothing wrong with that.

/tosses two coppers into the cup

[RobinGBrown]

so you'll never understand what your sentence means, unless you're german and jewish.

btw. next time you write nazi propaganda calls - write it correct.
You got a grammatical mistake in those lousy two words. :thumbdown:
Point one: 'you'll never understand' is the courtiers reply (http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Courtier's_reply), it is foolish to think that someone cannot understand something just because they have not directly experienced it. I'm pretty sure you weren't in Germany when the Nazis were killing Jews, although I readily accept that your family may have suffered greatly and you have my sympathies.

Point two: if you can't recognise the difference between someone making a joke and someone making Nazi propaganda then just grow up/get a life/get a sense of humour/stop being so over sensitive

Lastly: I'm English and we generally like to poke fun at the Germans because we see you as uptight and humourless - you've proved us right once again.

[Yamio]

The only reason to come to any threads that concern Sam is to watch everybody beat the shit outta one another. Sam doesn't really say anything worth anything, but the real entertainment is seeing everybody rag on each other.

We've gone from talking about not being able to destroy Sam Deathwalker to Nazi's to sensitivity training. Holy crap I'm enjoying this shit! Keep it up everybody!!

5 stars indeed!! Two thumbs way up!!! :thumbsup:

[beyond-tec]

Point one: 'you'll never understand' is the courtiers reply (http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Courtier's_reply ('http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Courtier%27s_reply')), it is foolish to think that someone cannot understand something just because they have not directly experienced it. I'm pretty sure you weren't in Germany when the Nazis were killing Jews, although I readily accept that your family may have suffered greatly and you have my sympathies.

Point two: if you can't recognise the difference between someone making a joke and someone making Nazi propaganda then just grow up/get a life/get a sense of humour/stop being so over sensitive

Lastly: I'm English and we generally like to poke fun at the Germans because we see you as uptight and humourless - you've proved us right once again.hmm... the little prejudices.

let's see...

germans.. humorless, uptight, only have fun once a year during "Oktoberfest" where all get drunk
french.. eating frogs, having a language that sounds a little bit gay
english.. uptight, not well - mostly over / false dressed for the moment, angry, always drunk, loud, tattooed, always in a fight or starting trouble
americans.. cowboys, farmers, superficial, fat, fast-food lovers, don't even know anything about any country outside of america, no history
shall I continue? 8)

and for the rest..
as I've mentioned: you won't understand, you will never understand because you can't understand.
so my words are meaningless. You don't even understand that my generation ain't free yet, although
WWII was ended 60 years ago or that you're "jokes" are based on a person which was responsible for
the death of 55.000.000 people.


grow-up: 30yo
get a life: gf/job/car currently buying a house
get a sense of humor: 55.000.000 will laugh with you
over sensitive: for such jokes, you'd get to jail germany =)

anything more you're trying to say?

[Los]

5 star rated thread :thumbsup:Some ppl never change ^^

Actually imo wilbur = sam deathwalker, I think they both /lol a lot while reading this.