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Basilikos
01-11-2009, 05:58 PM
Before I start this out, I need to point out that the guy who started this did so using /say and he specifically said, "REPORTED! ALL OF YOU!" at my characters. He addressed each of my mixed group, so I am entitled to speak to him on every character. Otherwise, some wise-acre would try to tell me I could get banned for doing what I did (which I doubt could happen anyway).

So here goes...

I'm taking my mixed group out of instances a few hours ago when someone starts following my guys back to the quest hub typing, "REPORTED" in /say all the way there. I get back to the quest turn-in NPC, and then he starts with the, "REPORTED! ALL OF YOU!" garbage. There was a crowd gathering, so I spread my characters out and started to dance. I whispered him asking what the problem was and here's how it went (spelling and whatnot has been preserved for your comedic pleasure).


My Death Knight (MDK): What's wrong, now?
Moron: YOUR PL'ING
MDK: What?
Moron: PL'ING
Moron: It not aloud
MDK: Powerleveling is permitted so long as I do not exploit any game mechanics. All I'm doing is running instances.
Moron: it not aloud in WOW
Moron: you cant PL on multiple accounts
Moron: lol
MDK: Perhaps you should consult the Customer Service forums on the official WoW website. There is information there about multiboxing. Also, check the wiki on dual-boxing.com for GM Quotes about multiboxing.
Moron: lol
Moron: your reported and are getting account closure for this
MDK: I doubt that.
Moron is ignoring you.
So I think, "Okay. This is funny. Let's keep going.

My Priest (MP): I'm still trying to figure out what you're upset about.
Moron: your pling and in now allowed in WOW [his typing, not mine]
MP: Dual-boxing is permitted in WoW. Perhaps you should seek out a GM if you're confused about what's going on.
Moron: huh? lol
MP: Multiboxing is not a violation of any rule.
Moron is ignoring you.
Hey - why not keep going? I've got multiple characters.
My Mage (MM): What rule have I broken?
Moron: lol one of teh many rules is that you cant pl on multiple accounts
MM: I'm afraid that isn't correct.
Moron: YOU CAN DUELBOX WOW
MM: Who told you that?
Moron is ignoring you.
I figured that would happen...
My Druid (MD): You know, you really shouldn't verbally bash someone just because you're unable to understand what you're seeing.
MD: Now, are you feeling any better yet?
Moron: you cant fucking duelbox wow
MD: That's not nice.
Moron is ignoring you.
I've got him right where I want him.
My Shaman (MS): I'm not going to get banned for multiboxing, but you're going to get into trouble for that profanity you communicated to my druid.
Moron: so?
MS: It might get you a three-day ban. Enjoy it.
Moron: YOU CANT DUELBOX WOW
MS: You're about to find out differently.
Moron is ignoring you.
The joys of multiboxing. So wonderful.

mikekim
01-11-2009, 06:16 PM
classic,

let us know how the "morons" ban goes :thumbsup:

Basilikos
01-11-2009, 06:21 PM
classic,

let us know how the "morons" ban goes :thumbsup:I've already got the email indicating GMs have looked into it. Strangely, this guy has disappeared from the server minutes after it happened, but I'm still able to play...

Vyndree
01-11-2009, 06:26 PM
Be careful. He ignored you multiple times, on multiple accounts.

If he were smart (though I doubt, from the conversation, that he has a strong grasp of the rules), he COULD report you for continued harassment and bypassing the in-game anti-harassment /ignore feature by using multiple accounts.

It would've been simpler and cut out the risk to leave it be after the /ignore and let him learn his lesson from the GM's mouth.

mmcookies
01-11-2009, 06:57 PM
^ what she said

d0z3rr
01-11-2009, 07:22 PM
Pshh harassment? That's hilarious. He was asking inquisitively as to why they were upset. Harassment is exactly what the moron was doing to begin with. Good stuff Basilikos.

Naysayer
01-11-2009, 07:31 PM
Why didn't you just ignore him? Especially after he /ignored you the first time? Seems like you're just trying to cause more problems. I would have just laughed and went about my business the first time he spammed like a moron.

algol
01-11-2009, 07:33 PM
Is duelboxing where you PVP with yourself? I dunno, I'm a bit too lazy to roll two opposing sides of a battlegroup. Plus, how the hell would you control both groups at the same time?

Also, don't harass the idiots. Report them for harassment and call it a day. Half the people out there have a normalized IQ under 100, true fact. Fighting with them is just silly.

Basilikos
01-11-2009, 08:18 PM
Why didn't you just ignore him? Especially after he /ignored you the first time?Because he was entertaining me.


Seems like you're just trying to cause more problems.He initiated conversation with ALL of my characters when he addresses "ALL OF YOU" in /say. It's a stretch perhaps, but within the typical handling of multiboxers that we've seen Blizzard use so far. They see characters, not players. They only ban characters/accounts that are involved in bad behavior, not players. He was technically messaging all of my characters as though they were separate entities.

Basilikos
01-11-2009, 08:19 PM
Also, don't harass the idiots. Report them for harassment and call it a day. Fighting with them is just silly.I wasn't trying to fight with him, I was trying to make sense of what he was upset about. It just got funnier from there, that's all.

Basilikos
01-11-2009, 08:22 PM
[quote='Vyndree',index.php?page=Thread&postID=166034#post166034]... he COULD report you for continued harassment and bypassing the in-game anti-harassment /ignore feature by using multiple accounts. ...[/quote

He could also report me for multiboxing. Reports don't automatically indicate wrongdoing. He communicated with all of my characters before I said a single thing to him (see the top of my post).

Basilikos
01-11-2009, 09:10 PM
One other thing - after he ignored me, he continued to whisper me. I didn't know that would work, but that's another issue altogether. He can't claim harassment.

Marathon
01-12-2009, 01:47 AM
I hate people who try and tell me what we do is illegal.

Sajuuk
01-12-2009, 01:49 AM
/point x5
/lol x5

Yamio
01-12-2009, 01:50 AM
Basilikos~

tsk tsk....you know you're not supposed to poke at the monkeys with a stick. Nor are you supposed to throw lit cigarettes in their cages. I know it's funny, slap your knee kinda funny, but you know your mother taught you better than that!!

...shame...shame

hardcoded
01-12-2009, 01:56 AM
At some point people are just looking for a confrontation, and it helps me to realize this. Especially when they are running after you, whispering different accounts,etc.

For me there are 2 choices:

1) Make fun of them within the rules
RUN FOR COVER! NERD RAGE INCOMING!oneeleventy!!!!!1!

2) /Ignore

If someone really bothers you after that, just report them for harassment, as that is exactly that functionality is for. Same sorta thing happened to me today, twice. Always good to remember I'm not the only one seeing this sort of trash as well :)

Yamio
01-12-2009, 02:19 AM
In a year's time, I've only had two people talking trash while running after me. One was a jackass in STV yelling "HACKER" while following me down the road. When I asked him why would a hacker be doing this out in the open, and not in the middle of the night, or in a zone that wasn't highly populated, he said "idk i just no ur hackn".

The other was in Thousand Needles when this guy first chased me around to let me know I needed to "lol get a life". (How did he know?) Then he proceeded to follow me for about 10 minutes calling me nub and fag. (Again, how did he know these things??!)

I guess he was following me around to make sure I wasn't trying to find a life lying about. I tried to point out the irony of him wasting time following me but it was lost on him.

I didn't report them. I just kept on doing what I was doing.

Tasty
01-12-2009, 02:24 AM
I guess he was following me around to make sure I didn't have a life. I tried to point out the irony of him wasting time by following me but it was lost on him.

Thats just too awesome for words :D

blast3r
01-12-2009, 11:44 AM
Why didn't you just ignore him? Especially after he /ignored you the first time? Seems like you're just trying to cause more problems. I would have just laughed and went about my business the first time he spammed like a moron.

If he simply /ignored him right off the bat we would not have been blessed with this hilarious post, now would we? And trying to cause more problems? I don't think we should always have to be pushovers. Sometimes I just /ignore sometimes I just /say "I'll take a burger, fries and a shake burger flipper".

Tonuss
01-12-2009, 01:55 PM
He could also report me for multiboxing. Reports don't automatically indicate wrongdoing. He communicated with all of my characters before I said a single thing to him (see the top of my post). Reporting you for multiboxing is unlikely to get any action taken against you (and on the rare chance that it does, you would be able to get it reversed). But reporting you for harassment could stick, since Blizzard's rules cover the act of using different characters to get around an /ignore. Granted, it's typically a short ban and the idiot you were dealing with does not seem bright enough to figure it out (and it was worth it to watch him swear at you, I can imagine his reaction when he got his ban). But I think it is probable that if he had been smart enough to report you, you would've had action taken against one or all accounts.

succulent
01-12-2009, 02:40 PM
I've found that morons are the ones who typically talk in /s rather than whispering you directly with questions etc. I never respond to anything in /s -- if you can't solve the tricksy problem of figuring out how to whisper, I'm pretty sure you don't have anything intelligent to say anyway.

RobinGBrown
01-12-2009, 02:46 PM
I reported a guy this weekend for harassment. I complained about some crap in the trade channel (RP server) and asked people to take it to a private channel (was singleboxing tradeskills). This guys whispers me and calls me a $%&# (profanity filter on) so I replied '/reported' and put him on ignore.

He logs on to another character and does it again, I do the same /reported+ignored, and he does it a couple more times. Adding the guys who harassed me to friends I notice that they're from 4 different accounts as they're all logged on at once. An 80, a 79, a 23 and a 24. I've already reported them for harassment but when I speak to the GM I tell him that there's something strange going on as this one guy has four accounts in all different places (he wasn't boosting the lowbies they were in a different continent). About two mins later the two lowbies both log off simultaneously.

I think the guy was botting the lowbies while he moaned in trade with his lvl 80, so the lesson is if you're in a grey area or doing something outright wrong you should be polite to other people - you never know when or who will report you.

Basilikos
01-12-2009, 03:15 PM
[quote='Basilikos',index.php?page=Thread&postID=166061#post166061]But reporting you for harassment could stick, since Blizzard's rules cover the act of using different characters to get around an /ignore. Granted, it's typically a short ban and the idiot you were dealing with does not seem bright enough to figure it out (and it was worth it to watch him swear at you, I can imagine his reaction when he got his ban). But I think it is probable that if he had been smart enough to report you, you would've had action taken against one or all accounts.

He continued to communicate after he ignored the first account, without my prompting. Also, he claimed to have reported each of the characters. That's what the first part of my OP was for - EACH of my characters had cause to discuss the incident with him.

Vyndree
01-12-2009, 03:20 PM
None of us is really saying that psting them was wrong from a moral sense, just that there IS a loophole in the rules that says "If I /ignore them, and they continue trying to talk to me, it CAN be (CAN, not necessarily WILL) a bannable offense because it is considered harassment".

That's all we're really saying. Psting someone after they /ignore you (anyone, multiboxer or not) is a reportable and POTENTIALLY bannable offense. And, according to Blizz, BOTH parties are investigated for wrongdoing whenever a report is made -- so regardless the other guy's stuff in /say that he harassed you with after /ignore would also be considered.



Basically -- both the guy, and you, have TECHNICALLY by-the-rules participated in harassing behavior. Both COULD be bannable, but that's up to 1) a person to report and 2) the GM to decide. *shrug*


Anyway, I'm not really criticizing what you did -- it's a natural impulse to continue a conversation -- particularly if they instigate it... But instigation or not, I just wanted to make sure you're aware that he could've been trying to taunt you into a ban so you might want to be careful in the future.

Farleito
01-12-2009, 04:44 PM
If I /ignore them, and they continue trying to talk to me, it CAN be (CAN, not necessarily WILL) a bannable offense
In this situation, I disagree.

The "moron" was just being lazy. If he acknowledged that all 5 characters were a single person, he should have /ignored all of them right away.

A while back, I was chatting with a friend in a vent server as he was getting replaced in a heroic for no apparant reason, other than they wanted their friend to run with them but they were not on at the time they started. They removed him from the group, but since they downed a boss, he was saved to the instance (no auto-hearth). He gave them the "you wasted my time, now I'm going to waste yours." They paged a GM to remove him from the instance. The GM whispered him, "...I can't make you leave..and if you don't, you're going to make enemies." He explained his side of the story, and the GM said this is partially the reason why you are "saved" to the instance. While he was chatting with the GM, he was /ignoring everybody in the group because they kept bugging him to leave. When he had the entire group on /ignore, they were asking their guild members to whisper him. He mentioned this to the GM...the GM asked him to create a new ticket, and finally responded with "...all I can suggest is to either 1) Turn off chat 2) Logout 3) /ignore every incoming whisper." He also added that if any of the incoming whispers became threatening or offensive (in the eye's of blizzard; he tried to claim that the word "instance" meant "big floppy donkey penis" in his "native" language), he would need to create a new ticket for each one. The GM saw thru his BS and the games that the other guys were playing and quickly uninvolved himself.

If an entire guild can send whispers, after getting /ignored one at a time...a multi-boxer can do the same.





Who starts a conversation and then puts the other person on ignore when they try to reply? If I was a GM and received both complaints, I would suspend both accounts for wasting my time. This is why I disable chat.

Basilikos
01-12-2009, 06:01 PM
Anyway, I'm not really criticizing what you did -- it's a natural impulse to continue a conversation -- particularly if they instigate it... But instigation or not, I just wanted to make sure you're aware that he could've been trying to taunt you into a ban so you might want to be careful in the future.

Ah. Now I get you. Yeah, I thought of that before I whispered him after the /ignore.

mmcookies
01-12-2009, 07:01 PM
for future reference
PST = Please Send Tell

Bigfish
01-12-2009, 07:12 PM
for future reference
PST = Please Send Tell

God, AMEN! I hate when people use "pst" as a verb. Its not the phonetic sound of a whisper trying to get someone's attention, its an acronym asking for correspondance.

Vyndree
01-12-2009, 07:18 PM
for future reference
PST = Please Send Tell

God, AMEN! I hate when people use "pst" as a verb. Its not the phonetic sound of a whisper trying to get someone's attention, its an acronym asking for correspondance.

Do you /tell a person or do you /whisper a person? ;)

/t and /tell are both IN the game, but I've never seen or heard of anyone who uses those commands over /w and /whisper.

So is it "Please send TELL?" or is it the sound of a WHISPER? ;) And if you /w me in response, does it count as a tell even though you used a whisper command?

Conundrums. ;)





Oh, and P.S. -- as for "they should /ignore all 5" -- there's a limit of how many people you can have on /ignore at any given point in time. If they put your current conversationalist on /ignore, and by talking to all of you have acknowledged that you are all the same person, they are effectively giving you a "I do not want to talk to you" message, which you are circumventing.

I'm not really defending them as a particular party, just saying that it's not our decision to make on what is a justified or unjustified bannable offense. If a GM decides that you both are in the wrong, they will action both.

mmcookies
01-12-2009, 07:33 PM
assumptions assumptions
i hate arguing against assumptions

PST predates WoW by far, now is there an older MMO that only had tells in it?

Bigfish
01-12-2009, 07:37 PM
Do you /tell a person or do you /whisper a person?

/t and /tell are both IN the game, but I've never seen or heard of anyone who uses those commands over /w and /whisper.

So is it "Please send TELL?" or is it the sound of a WHISPER? And if you /w me in response, does it count as a tell even though you used a whisper command?

Conundrums.

I use /tell. If people want to use PSW, that's cool too, but it will sound really stupid if people start pswing eachother.

5fingersofdoom
01-13-2009, 02:18 PM
I've had similar its truly better to ignore them,they aren't going to change their view.
Moron is ignoring you <--- made me smile tho :)

Pippin
01-13-2009, 02:47 PM
assumptions assumptions
i hate arguing against assumptions

PST predates WoW by far, now is there an older MMO that only had tells in it?

Star Wars Galaxies has /tell only. For years didn't even have /reply nor could you click someones name to send a tell to them. Everytime you wanted to reply or send a tell you had to /tell johnboy. Man that was annoying.

Vyndree
01-13-2009, 03:42 PM
assumptions assumptions
i hate arguing against assumptions

PST predates WoW by far, now is there an older MMO that only had tells in it?

Star Wars Galaxies has /tell only. For years didn't even have /reply nor could you click someones name to send a tell to them. Everytime you wanted to reply or send a tell you had to /tell johnboy. Man that was annoying.

MUDs predate graphical MMOs, and from what I recall most of them used /whisper or /page.

I think I few did use /tell, though. Just because SWG used /tell only doesn't mean they invented it. ;)

Rin
01-13-2009, 03:52 PM
I think I few did use /tell, though. Just because SWG used /tell only doesn't mean they invented it. ;)

I've been using /tell ever since the good ole ROM/RoT muds, and then EverQuest days. Whats this /whisper that some of you people are talking about? ;)

Kaelika
01-13-2009, 04:13 PM
assumptions assumptions
i hate arguing against assumptions

PST predates WoW by far, now is there an older MMO that only had tells in it?

Star Wars Galaxies has /tell only. For years didn't even have /reply nor could you click someones name to send a tell to them. Everytime you wanted to reply or send a tell you had to /tell johnboy. Man that was annoying.Yes, it did. I played SWG up until I started playing WoW at its release, and even then I continued to play both simultaneously until SOE ruined the game. I was used to referring to "whispers" as tells, and even when some of my guildmates joked about the fact that "WoW isn't SWG" so "it's time to move on and use /w," I refused to make the adaption just because I was comfortable with using tells by this point. (Old habits die hard?)

Now...? I still call it a "tell" and not a "whisper." After four years my friends have finally accepted the fact that they aren't going to change my opinion, and rightly so. It really boils down to personal preference in the end, and no one has a right to dictate which method a player chooses as the game accommodates both options.

Frojax
01-13-2009, 09:50 PM
Haha, i've been 2 boxing for three days now and until tonight, it had been very quiet and without problems. Tonight, I've been told I've been reported twice and have had a lot of verbal abuse from another guy, claiming that we are ruining WoW. I popped on here to check if anyone else had had similar issues. Needless to say, this post confirmed my fears and made me laugh. Got to love morons :)

Pippin
01-14-2009, 02:34 PM
assumptions assumptions
i hate arguing against assumptions

PST predates WoW by far, now is there an older MMO that only had tells in it?

Star Wars Galaxies has /tell only. For years didn't even have /reply nor could you click someones name to send a tell to them. Everytime you wanted to reply or send a tell you had to /tell johnboy. Man that was annoying.

MUDs predate graphical MMOs, and from what I recall most of them used /whisper or /page.

I think I few did use /tell, though. Just because SWG used /tell only doesn't mean they invented it. ;)I am not sure what you are saying. I never said it invented it. Someone asked if there was a game that was /tell only and SWG was. :D

Pippin
01-14-2009, 02:36 PM
assumptions assumptions
i hate arguing against assumptions

PST predates WoW by far, now is there an older MMO that only had tells in it?

Star Wars Galaxies has /tell only. For years didn't even have /reply nor could you click someones name to send a tell to them. Everytime you wanted to reply or send a tell you had to /tell johnboy. Man that was annoying.Yes, it did. I played SWG up until I started playing WoW at its release, and even then I continued to play both simultaneously until SOE ruined the game. I was used to referring to "whispers" as tells, and even when some of my guildmates joked about the fact that "WoW isn't SWG" so "it's time to move on and use /w," I refused to make the adaption just because I was comfortable with using tells by this point. (Old habits die hard?)

Now...? I still call it a "tell" and not a "whisper." After four years my friends have finally accepted the fact that they aren't going to change my opinion, and rightly so. It really boils down to personal preference in the end, and no one has a right to dictate which method a player chooses as the game accommodates both options.Yes what did? I too still refer to them as tells. When talking with freinds or at work I never say, "Let me whisper you something". I say, " Let me tell you something". lol. Whisper just sounds silly.

Spades68
01-14-2009, 02:39 PM
Education comes in many forms, and for him it was in the form of a BAN! Aahhahahaah k sorry I'll be mature now... At first I thought it was a joke and he was playing you, the way the conversation went. It looked like he was leading you on, just to waste your time, but then he said "fuck" and I was like LOL YOUR DONE NOW.

homerjunior
01-14-2009, 02:49 PM
Be careful. He ignored you multiple times, on multiple accounts.

If he were smart (though I doubt, from the conversation, that he has a strong grasp of the rules), he COULD report you for continued harassment and bypassing the in-game anti-harassment /ignore feature by using multiple accounts.

It would've been simpler and cut out the risk to leave it be after the /ignore and let him learn his lesson from the GM's mouth.Can we get a blue link on that? If that were agaisnt the rule's would not submitting ticketsx5 be aswell

Basilikos
01-14-2009, 04:33 PM
Can we get a blue link on that? If that were agaisnt the rule's would not submitting ticketsx5 be aswell

Not quite the same thing, I think. Because Blizzard deals with characters before the players behind them, someone doing something to a number of characters warrants multiple reports regardless of the number of players behind those characters.

In this particular case, my only possible justification (as had been pointed out) is that he communicated to all of my characters. Normally, what I did would have been a problem. It might even turn into an issue if the wrong GM found out about it since they are likely NOT paid to think through the rules and possible reasons for my doing what I did.

Kaelika
01-14-2009, 04:56 PM
assumptions assumptions
i hate arguing against assumptions

PST predates WoW by far, now is there an older MMO that only had tells in it?

Star Wars Galaxies has /tell only. For years didn't even have /reply nor could you click someones name to send a tell to them. Everytime you wanted to reply or send a tell you had to /tell johnboy. Man that was annoying.Yes, it did. I played SWG up until I started playing WoW at its release, and even then I continued to play both simultaneously until SOE ruined the game. I was used to referring to "whispers" as tells, and even when some of my guildmates joked about the fact that "WoW isn't SWG" so "it's time to move on and use /w," I refused to make the adaption just because I was comfortable with using tells by this point. (Old habits die hard?)

Now...? I still call it a "tell" and not a "whisper." After four years my friends have finally accepted the fact that they aren't going to change my opinion, and rightly so. It really boils down to personal preference in the end, and no one has a right to dictate which method a player chooses as the game accommodates both options.Yes what did? I too still refer to them as tells. When talking with freinds or at work I never say, "Let me whisper you something". I say, " Let me tell you something". lol. Whisper just sounds silly.You said, "Star Wars Galaxies has /tell only." I then replied by saying, "Yes, it did"; that is, I was reaffirming what you said.

Knobley
01-14-2009, 05:04 PM
but then he said "fuck" and I was like LOL YOUR DONE NOW.

You can get someone banned for dropping an F-bomb?

RobinGBrown
01-15-2009, 05:42 AM
but then he said "fuck" and I was like LOL YOUR DONE NOW. You can get someone banned for dropping an F-bomb?

AFAIK swearing at someone in a whisper will merely result in a polite word from a GM (assuming it's reported) and a warning not to do it again.

Swearing in /trade /say /yell or other _broadcast_ channels is a more sever offence and you _might_ get a suspension.

Repeating the offence could earn you a ban if you do it enough.

Threatening behaviour is also treated more seriously.

I imagine that calling the GM a **** when he speaks to you would make a world of difference to the result...

Khatovar
01-15-2009, 08:13 AM
Do you /tell a person or do you /whisper a person? ;)

/t and /tell are both IN the game, but I've never seen or heard of anyone who uses those commands over /w and /whisper.

So is it "Please send TELL?" or is it the sound of a WHISPER? ;) And if you /w me in response, does it count as a tell even though you used a whisper command?



It's "please send tell" in my book. Played Asheron's Call looooong before WoW, and there was no /whisper command. It was @tell.

I don't /whisper back, I /reply ;)

Tonuss
01-15-2009, 01:43 PM
You can get someone banned for dropping an F-bomb?Blizzard will ban your account for swearing, yes. As far as I know, you progress through the penalty pyramid as well (three hours for a first offense, 24 for a second, etc). As I understand it, they treat public (/yell, /say, /general) channels differently than private (/whisper, /guild) channels. So you might get away with swearing in tells or guild chat, but it may depend on the circumstances. ie, If the GM considers that you're being hostile and using language to harass another player, it's possible that they'll issue an account penalty.

weeep
01-15-2009, 02:31 PM
<All epic 80 DK>: LOL get a life nerd
<My lvl 75 shamans>: Hey, you are death knight, you are 80 and you are all epicced out. And I am still 75 in a month after xpac release. Guess who of us is spending much more time in WoW than in real life?
<All epic 80 DK>: *silence*
<All epic 80 DK>: *walks away*

mmcookies
01-15-2009, 10:43 PM
It's "please send tell" in my book. Played Asheron's Call looooong before WoW, and there was no /whisper command. It was @tell.

I don't /whisper back, I /reply ;) hooray for AC!

Elesar
01-16-2009, 03:16 PM
<All epic 80 DK>: LOL get a life nerd
<My lvl 75 shamans>: Hey, you are death knight, you are 80 and you are all epicced out. And I am still 75 in a month after xpac release. Guess who of us is spending much more time in WoW than in real life?
<All epic 80 DK>: *silence*
<All epic 80 DK>: *walks away*Oh that is great :D

welwyn
01-16-2009, 11:00 PM
really wish i had recorded the convo from last night.. we was having a guild conversation so i couldnt really play much so i had my 4 chars sitting on SW bank steps on elephant mounts (drenai ones) when i get this guy start saying "fag fag fag fag get a life loser go get laid retard fag fag fag fag you like anal queer chinese go get a real job sucky long time 2 dollar fag fag fag fag" or somthing to that extent. in fact he said a lot of things like that and asked if i could speak english.

to this it got my back up a little so i answered "indeed i can" ( on just 1 char) and then he just wouldnt stop. i normally just straight ignore them but i was a bit bored from the guild chat on vent and had nothing else to do so i carried it on. by now i had quite an audience all taking the micky out of this guy. well i knew of a few multiboxers on my server who came and sat in a row in front of me :P this just annoyed him more but it was so funny. he then started up the whole fag, gay, queer thing again ( so at this point he has been homophobic) he also called me "a gay mutha fucking nigger queer" ( now add in racism with the chinese before and now nigger. also add in obusive language in /say into the mix and this guy is digging deeply ) he then started the /emote spam of /spit / laugh ect. to which my reply was do not start the emote stuff as i WILL win it. i then duly informed him of my reporting him to a GM x 4. to this he asked why so i said about the homophobic racist and obusive remarks and that he is going to be banned probably permanantly. he then shuts up but stays standing there with everyong laughing. i then ask why he isnt talking anymore and if he can speak english

Sajuuk
01-16-2009, 11:32 PM
Racism will certainly get him in trouble.

Vyndree
01-17-2009, 02:20 AM
Be careful. He ignored you multiple times, on multiple accounts.

If he were smart (though I doubt, from the conversation, that he has a strong grasp of the rules), he COULD report you for continued harassment and bypassing the in-game anti-harassment /ignore feature by using multiple accounts.

It would've been simpler and cut out the risk to leave it be after the /ignore and let him learn his lesson from the GM's mouth.Can we get a blue link on that? If that were agaisnt the rule's would not submitting ticketsx5 be aswell

There is most definitely a blue post saying "We never will ban someone simply for opening a GM ticket" because they don't want to DISCOURAGE people from bringing legitimate issues to GMs. That's why a person who reports a multiboxer for "botting" doesn't have to worry because "oops, I didn't know what multiboxing was".
However, keep in mind that ticketing a GM can be done completely 100% silently without harassing the other player about it.

Which part do you want a blue quote on? Excessive reporting?
Can i get reported for reporting too much? ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=102422') (closest I could find to that reference: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14318907978&postId=143175011904&sid=1#7 -- if you insist I can keep looking further)

Granted, they do NOT want you to waste a GM's time on purpose (i.e. harassing a GM). However, if you honestly had 5 tickets to make, make 5 tickets. BLIZZARD will deal with investigating and doling out punishment. Making yourself trial, judge, and jury and doling out retaliation yourself (sans PvP server justice, of course) is most certainly not the right way to do things.

Now, if you put 5 tickets in and /w'ed the person 5x "REPORTED!" they COULD make an argument that you were harassing THEM, or, at the very least, spamming.

And to really emphasize the point, if you put 5 tickets in, pst'ed nasty words at him for an hour, and then expected not to get banned for harassment, you're fooling yourself. All involved parties are investigated for wrongdoing: including the one that made the ticket.

Mooni
01-17-2009, 03:26 AM
There's a third option too -
LOGIC BOMB
They think you're a farmer? They think you're a bot? They think you're lol4saleshammies?
Then there is no reason they should be addressing you directly. They should report the issue and move on. If you really are a non-English-speaking native of China, you wouldn't respond to their English jeers anyway. So they can't possibly believe that.
If you are really a bot, you won't respond to their intelligent statements with your cheesy artificial intelligence. So they can't possibly be addressing you with this in mind.
They think you're lol4saleshammies? Then they would have even less reason to hold a conversation or interact or associate with you. Don't they realize that knowing about such an exploit but not immediately reporting it is just as bad as doing it?
So it is obvious the only reason a hater starts a conversation is to troll you. I think you did a great job staying emotionally detached.
The best comeback I ever got when I calmly explained everything in /say was, "dont spam me" which told me there was even more misunderstanding of the rules on their side.