New instance to add to farming? (and alt-itis)

[Multibocks]

I have now have Utgarde Keep, Drak'Tharon Keep, Gundrak and Caverns of Time: The Culling of Stratholme on easy-mode farm status. I'm curious what dungeon you think I should add to my daily farm list next? I've already tried Azjol Nerub a BUNCH of times so forget that. I guess Old Kingdom I could try... I havent even done Halls of Lightning or Stone on any difficulty level. I loathe to even add nexus as its a long ass flight there. Violet Hold is not farmable as there are a few bosses that give me headaches, however I can clear it if the right bosses pop up. I'm guessing the ones I am doing are pretty much it. Takes about 2.5hours to clear the ones I have on farm and honestly I'm looking to drop Utgarde Keep as I have run that so many times I could do it blindfolded and the thought of going there again makes me nauseus(even skipping as much as I can I noticed that it just has too much trash.)

I think I have farmed up about 300 emblems and 600 or so stone keeper shards(per account), most of the rewards going to alts (bunch of heirloom crap.) I get tells from people when they see my alts that I'm one masochistic bastard. I probably should stop before I burn myself out (againx3). Anyways someone have a different dungeon than those above on farm? Also could use some strat tips on CoS as I have only seen the Infinite Corruptor once and didnt get to dps him before he took off. =(

[Niley]

when i was running heroics my dailies included, nexus, HoL, Pinnacle and keep(sometimes Gundrak). Now I'm leveling mage/priest so I stopped for a bit.

[Multibocks]

Hmm Im leaning towards trying HoL. Pinnacle is a pain in my ass, I can't seem to get past Lodi. I can sometimes make it to him, but I just dont have the time to position my group before he lands and then he whirlwinds my tank or dps to death while moving one or the other. H8 that guy.

[Hachoo]

I'm going to wait to start farming UP until I'm mega overgeared on all characters.

I will be trying HoL soon, and I think everyone but telestra would be easy in nexus, not sure about telestra she gave me a lot of probs on normal. I've never run strat but I want to try adding that to my farming list since I want to get 5 bronze drakes ;)

I would say try HoL - if you can get it down it will get easier and easier and I hear its a pretty fun instance and I think it has some decent drops.

[Multibocks]

GL on the drakes from CoS, I ran what I thought was a perfect run the other day and saw him walking off (this is fully flasked and managing mana so I dont have to drink). I don't know where Im going to drop 3 mins off my run time to get there faster and kill him.

[Hachoo]

Non-dedicated healer = more dps = faster run. I don't use a resto shaman.

[puppychow]

If you can do Strat HoL is a joke, esp once your geared up > 1500sp and you have a resto shaman. I wiped 10+ times when I first when into HoL, but when I went in a few days ago I 1-shotted everything including Loken - killed him in like 70 seconds too, so got that achievement.

I am b-o-r-e-d of heroics, I basically only run maybe 1 a day. Instead I am joining 25 man pugs on each of my guys and just getting gear that way (or at least badges), it makes you want to claw your eyes out after running naxx for the 3d time in a week (4-6 hour clears) but if you are lucky with drops you can get geared out CRAZY, since there is a ton of leather/mail spell power drops and most raids have hardly anyone who can use them. And yeah, same as you, I detest VH, the two spider instances, HoS (first 2 bosses ez, the waves-with-bronn is NUTS), UP, etc so only try one of them once a week to improve a bit. Got Anub down to 20% in two tries last nite but just stopped, if I gear up a bit more and with next patch I think a LOT of it is going to be a lot easier.

Also don't forget next week (assuming patch) that you will be able to buy a very nice helm for 40 wg tokens, and I think legs (or trinket?) or 30 tokens. I am jumping into WG every chance I get, its an easy 3-10k honor per battle and more importantly I'm saving up tokens.

Afterwards plan on leveling a DK to try him out as a tank, although at this point my pally is soooo well geared and nearly exalted with everyone, I really don't plan on repeating all that grinding again.

[Deekhay]

Don't know if you're running all shaman+tank but how do you deal with the nature immune boss in HoL - Heroic oc? With fire only? Do you do some kind of tricky positioning?
Thank you for any details.

[puppychow]

Are you talking about Ionar, that wind elemental that splits up into little lightning "spiders"? She is not immune to nature damage, just a lot of the trash before her is. My main dps button does a /castrandom lava burst,lightning bolt, plus I have a mage so it takes a little longer to take down the trash but its not too bad. For the boss, there are a few strats on this forum, but basically just put everyone in a seperate corner in the room before her, drop healing stream totems, and just heal up whoever is taking lots of damage when she splits up. You have to keep people away from each other so they don't spread the damage, and you have to heal up anyone who is currently taking lots of damage. A NR totem helps a lot of course.

[Multibocks]

Non-dedicated healer = more dps = faster run. I don't use a resto shaman.
Who said I used a resto shaman? =)

All my guys are currently elemental and I have a paladin for tank. No mana issues and I just dont know where I can cut corners to make it to the Corrupter faster. On a side note it seems CoS can be very luck based as yesterday I wiped 3 times(!!!!! :cursing: ) trying to get my time lower... I should have just taken it easy after the first wipe, but I was trying to practice a faster pace. Oh well...

[Hachoo]

Ah for some reason I thought you had posted in another thread that you respecced one of your shamans resto and it made things easier.

Aside from that, it just takes more DPS. The more spellpower/haste/crit/etc you have the faster things will die. Practice + DPS is the only deciding factor on a 25 minute run :) I would think a 25 min run would be easier as a multiboxer than as a group of 5 players because you will be much more well coordinated.

[Multibocks]

well my guys are sitting at 2.2 to 2.4k spellpower buffed and 15-20% haste. I figure that should be good enough for this, but maybe my tank is the limiting factor here. I need to get more avoidance on him, but Im rerolling my tank to a DK (soon as I get the motivation to level him up) and I just dont feel like buying a t7 chest or hands when what I have is close if not a sidegrade to the tier stuff. I wish t7 were a clearly superior item, then I wouldnt feel bad "wasting" a bunch of emblems on him. I did buy the trinket, necklce and waist for him, though.

[Hachoo]

By buffed do you mean with totem of wrath? Just curious how to compare my shamans, which are at something like 1700 sp with flametongue but no totem of wrath...so with totem of wrath thats what 1980? How on earth are you getting 2.2-2.4k? Or are you using the dual wield method?

[Niley]

well my guys are sitting at 2.2 to 2.4k spellpower buffed and 15-20% haste. I figure that should be good enough for this, but maybe my tank is the limiting factor here. I need to get more avoidance on him, but Im rerolling my tank to a DK (soon as I get the motivation to level him up) and I just dont feel like buying a t7 chest or hands when what I have is close if not a sidegrade to the tier stuff. I wish t7 were a clearly superior item, then I wouldnt feel bad "wasting" a bunch of emblems on him. I did buy the trinket, necklce and waist for him, though.

my main raiding shaman has that much self buffed, sp and haste, I have all naxx epics, including full 25 man set, best in sllot 1h, offhand, trinkets and more.

[Hachoo]

Yeah thats why I'm wondering...seemed really high so I'm curious how he got that high.

[Multibocks]

I flask my shamans on CoS runs. Seems worth it considering I have an herbalist and alchemist. No I do not use the dual wield method. I'll take a pic, if I remember =/

[puppychow]

I've gotten 3x drakes multiboxing (2x via pugs), imo the eziest way is just pugging it with each character, if you go in with a tank, healer, + a few AOE type classes its super easy. That said, i'd wait till next patch, dropping a few magma totems will make zombie clearing a bit faster plus extra shaman DPS should help out a lot. I used feasts when I was farming, and of course if its not obvious you should do the drake boss before you do Malganis. I take my mage so I spam drink whenever I can since I have 4 stacks of water on everyone :)

Back to the original topic, two things I'm considering doing are getting a Thunderfury crafted, and maaaaaybe making 5x AQ scepters. The thunderfury is pretty straightforward, run Molten Core till honored or revered (do Baron quests too), and farm the 2 guys that drop the bindings each week till you get em both, then kill Rag and kill the windseeker. At 70 I wiped on the 2nd trash pack in MC due to the silence, gonna revisit at 80 this week and see how it goes. My DK is only level 56 but I'd like to level him to 80 and get a Thunderfury for him (or my pally, or both! haha)

The AQ scepter is much more interesting, you have to farm AQ40 until friendly, then kill the 3d boss in BWL 5 times and Nefarian at least once. The chain is insanely long, but I think a multiboxer could handle everything except the BWL part no problem. Not sure how BWL would go solo, I might give it a whack this weekend but not optimistic about even the first boss. Once you finish after a few weeks/months the scepter is pretty useless, until a new x-ferable server opens up or your server gets free xfers to a new server. Even then I don't know the rules anymore about Blizzard AQ40 opening, do new servers have the gong ringable immediately, after a few months, or not even an option? Would be good to find that out first, lol.

You could also try farming Kael'Thas in Tempest Keep, but I don't think 5 man could do it at 80. I went in for fun late last night with a raid and even with 25 80s most of the people died before Kael was down (no strat we just ran in and started fighting lol). Mount didn't drop of course, but it would be insanely awesome to have that flying phoenix mount.

[nomenquis]

Back to the original topic, two things I'm considering doing are getting a Thunderfury crafted, and maaaaaybe making 5x AQ scepters. The thunderfury is pretty straightforward, run Molten Core till honored or revered (do Baron quests too), and farm the 2 guys that drop the bindings each week till you get em both, then kill Rag and kill the windseeker. At 70 I wiped on the 2nd trash pack in MC due to the silence, gonna revisit at 80 this week and see how it goes. My DK is only level 56 but I'd like to level him to 80 and get a Thunderfury for him (or my pally, or both! haha)
Not to dissapoint you, but you have to run a huge load of bwl to get thunderfury crafted. not to mention the 100 arcanit + finding someone that can smelt elementium (afaik at one patch everyone who knew it previously unlearned it, and learning it is bugged right now) ...

Imo tf is way harder than the scepter.

[Pact]

Also dont forget to get the red shard off nefarian you need to kill him in under 2 hours.

[emesis]

Back to the original topic, two things I'm considering doing are getting a Thunderfury crafted, and maaaaaybe making 5x AQ scepters. The thunderfury is pretty straightforward, run Molten Core till honored or revered (do Baron quests too), and farm the 2 guys that drop the bindings each week till you get em both, then kill Rag and kill the windseeker. At 70 I wiped on the 2nd trash pack in MC due to the silence, gonna revisit at 80 this week and see how it goes. My DK is only level 56 but I'd like to level him to 80 and get a Thunderfury for him (or my pally, or both! haha)
Not to dissapoint you, but you have to run a huge load of bwl to get thunderfury crafted. not to mention the 100 arcanit + finding someone that can smelt elementium (afaik at one patch everyone who knew it previously unlearned it, and learning it is bugged right now) ...

Imo tf is way harder than the scepter.

100 arcanite is easy these days. Arcane crystals go for like 5 g or so, they're in the AH all the time, and transmute arcanite doesn't have a cooldown any more.

Learning smelt elementium is _supposed_ to be fixed at some point, theoretically soon:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13770857715&sid=1

Thunderfury would definitely be a lot of work, but nothing like opening the gates IMO.

[Multibocks]

Yeah thats why I'm wondering...seemed really high so I'm curious how he got that high.

ok I was too lazy to take a pic but they range from 2457 at the highest (one nax piece) to 2240 at the lowest. This is with Flask, Flametongue and Totem of Wrath. Im sure you get much higher since I see your main is already at 1900ish without any buffs. I don't only choose mail items for my shaman AND I have low hit (only 170ish on each) so I would be crap dps in Naxx. In fact the best dps I have done is 2200ish in AV with my best shaman, lots and lots of misses.


edit: Shoot I need to make a cook so I can get food buffs.

[Hachoo]

Heh, my 1980sp is with flametongue totem and totem of wrath. I also only have 40 hit per shaman (but the 3% hit from talents which I don't need much more for heroics).

[nomenquis]

Heh, my 1980sp is with flametongue totem and totem of wrath. I also only have 40 hit per shaman (but the 3% hit from talents which I don't need much more for heroics).You've actually got 1980 with totem of wrath. Wrath and ft totem (!) do not stack.

[nomenquis]

100 arcanite is easy these days. Arcane crystals go for like 5 g or so, they're in the AH all the time, and transmute arcanite doesn't have a cooldown any more.

Learning smelt elementium is _supposed_ to be fixed at some point, theoretically soon:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13770857715&sid=1

Thunderfury would definitely be a lot of work, but nothing like opening the gates IMO.Scepter questline really only sucks because of the rep grind involved. Since now all gates are open one can just run aq20/40 for rep. Other than the huge timesink that was rep farming there really is not all that much farming involved (yea, some is still involved). The outdoor stuff is really really funny (if you're into reading quests anyway) and most can easily boxed.
Running mc / bwl should be easy with a pug, and you just need to do it a few times. However, for 100 elementium ore, you're looking at a rather long time of farming bwl, and if you have to pug instead of 'solo' boxing it (vael might be rather hard for 5 boxing) you'll have to convince randoms to pass legendary items (the ore) to you :)

Scepter is loads of fun for sure, imo easier and way more fun than tf.

[Hachoo]

Heh, my 1980sp is with flametongue totem and totem of wrath. I also only have 40 hit per shaman (but the 3% hit from talents which I don't need much more for heroics).You've actually got 1980 with totem of wrath. Wrath and ft totem (!) do not stack.Sorry I meant flametongue weapon and totem of wrath.

[Hachoo]

Also don't forget at 80 the rep is way....way slower than it was at 60. Not sure about AQ but the rep from MC is divided by 5, so you get like 3 rep for trash and 20 rep for bosses LOL. Would take a year to get revered probably waiting a week between runs.

[puppychow]

Patch 3.08 is changing rep so you get full rep at any level instead of diminishing rep based on grey mobs, so that might help out a bit.

edit: the other thing I think would be fun to do is try to go for a Red Proto drake. It requires you to complete a crapload of heroic achievements, but I think most can definitely be done by a mboxer. I've gotten about 25% of them without even trying (or knowing about them). Red proto drakes look sexy!

[Catamer]

I vote halls of lightning, the trash mobs at the begining knock my tank around like a rag doll but after that it's pretty easy mode.
Heroic Halls of Lightning ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=18276')

[Niley]

Patch 3.08 is changing rep so you get full rep at any level instead of diminishing rep based on grey mobs, so that might help out a bit.

edit: the other thing I think would be fun to do is try to go for a Red Proto drake. It requires you to complete a crapload of heroic achievements, but I think most can definitely be done by a mboxer. I've gotten about 25% of them without even trying (or knowing about them). Red proto drakes look sexy!
there is no way a multiboxer will be able to do all those achievments, I have people in the guild that have the drake, and some of them are crazy hard.

[Hachoo]

What you do is go for as many of the heroic achievements while 5 boxing as possible - by the time you finish the do-able ones you'll be very well geared and single boxing the last few near-impossible ones on each character should be much easier.