Onyxia

[beyond-tec]

yeah!

Oldschool incoming, baby!

Ony!

Need some tactics cuz I've wiped there the whole evening.

team: 70 pally, 3x70 ele shamans, 1x70 restro shaman

phase 1 ain't a problem, just waiting for the pally to get 100K Aggro
then nuking the hell out of Onyxia. My Resto Shammy stayed on 100% Mana
during this fight.

phase 2 was ... outch.... ony starts flying, and spits firebolts on my team.
I've spread them out a little bit to ensure that the firebolt only hits one of my toons and not the whole group.
the whelps very tricky but I've killed them just spamming heals and letting my resto shaman aggro them while
my paladin stands in front of him consecreating the earth like hell.

main problem: when I use follow so that I can run around and face ony to attack her the firebolts hit my whole group.
If I spread out and don't move ony is 90% of the time "out of range" or "not in sight".

any ideas?

[Hachoo]

Is there still an attunement to fight Onyxia? I'd like to try her out since I've never seen her even though I raided MC/ZG before BC came out.

[Bigfish]

No more Onyxia Attunement.

[Tizer]

I do her most weeks with my 5 shaman. Just put down mana tots, nuke her down, TS the whelps, Chain heal up. Job done. :)

[xtobbenx]

I think most ppl to it for the 140g or what ever it is that drop off here.. Kinda fast gold...

[puppychow]

I did it last night for the first time with my team, each person got 40g plus a few shards/etc, not bad for 15 mins. My mage tanked her the entire time in phase3, my pally just could not pull her off the mage (lol). no key required, can just zone in. You can do ZG in 15 mins (just the 2 mount bosses), Karazhan 1st boss (mount), and Onyxia in under an hour, especially with a mage to portal you around (nice order is Ony->Stonard->Kara->back to Stonard->STV->ZG, at least for horde).

best advice - just level to 80, the damage is a joke at 80 and pretty much any class can tank her. If you really want to keep going at 70, you need to always have tremor totems down, and have the tank be hitting her with something while she's in the air so hes on threat list. She does kind of reset when she lands but there are quirks. Just drag her back slowly and build up threat while your other guys heal.

[beyond-tec]

thx for the input, but I don't have any problems with phase 3 yet, cuz I don't survive phase 2 (when she is up in the air)

[magwo]

1x fire resist, 2x healing stream, 1x mana spring.
When 4-boxing this with 80 shammies my biggest problem is running out of mana when she's at 60% hp..

Can't really die, but after OOM the fight goes slowly.

[beyond-tec]

hmm.. ok..

will try her again when my team reached lvl 80.

thought it would be a nice and fast way to get some extra gold because I'm currently trying to get
my flight mounts (non-epic) and so I haven't got bought the WOTLK extension yet so I get gold instead of exp.

I'm currently farming UBRS (lots of cloth and I'm disenchanting all green and blue gear).
Selling those mats = ~100-200G / run.

[nomenquis]

hmm.. ok..

will try her again when my team reached lvl 80.

thought it would be a nice and fast way to get some extra gold because I'm currently trying to get
my flight mounts (non-epic) and so I haven't got bought the WOTLK extension yet so I get gold instead of exp.

I'm currently farming UBRS (lots of cloth and I'm disenchanting all green and blue gear).
Selling those mats = ~100-200G / run.I'd go and farm strath. Same green stuff (eternal essences -> $$), the lbs you get from bosses are worthless (at least on my server). Plus you've got a chance at the deathcharger :)

However, ony should also be doable for you. You might want to try to set up movement keys / macros / whatever so that you can move your dd independently from your pally and healer.
Usually you can let the pally tank all whelps and just nuke ony with the eles.

However, aggro does _not_ reset from p1 to p2 or p2 to p3.
That means that most likely your pally will have a lot less aggro than the dd (hopefully not the healer) once p3 starts. So you can expect to either tank p3 with a dd, or just let them die and ankh.
As an alternative to that you can still melee ony in p2 with the pally (to generate some aggro), and if you've got some whelps on the pally he will not even run out of mana.

kind regards

[Dominian]

The old and classic way of killing Onyxia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtvIYRrgZ04

Old but still fun!

[Boylston]

This inspired me to run my guys over there and whack her. None of them had ever killed her, so I got to inundate my guild channel with achievement spam... Always fun!



Laughably easy as a 4xHunter+Druid team. Gorillas just went nuts on her, huntards plinked away, and 5 minutes after entering the instance she was dead. I had to use four casts of wild growth for the whole encounter, I think. (Just topped everyone off after a breath or two.)

Did have some mana issues with huntards, but thankfully I dropped into Viper for 15sec or so and we were back in business...

[BobGnarly]

I assume you have FR aura up? Also, have you tried out 4x (glyphed) healing stream totems? It's pretty amazing what that can heal through. If you can get it so that you can just group up everybody and let the FR aura + healing stream totems take care of her fireball aoe, then it would be easy-mode for you from there.

[beyond-tec]

FR Aura up, mana stream during phase 1, healing stream during phase 2.

whelps are a bit annoying but consecration + thunderstorm works.

my problem:
ony is flying around and always out of range or not in front of me so I can't cast any spells.
If I start moving, my toons follow my main and the next firebolt hits my whole group
(I loose ~15-20% Life with my shamans when a firebolt hits the group)

so this is more running and chainhealing the group than DPS on Onyxia.

I need about 5 Minutes to get her to 60% life so she starts flying in phase2.
After another 5 Minutes I'm dead and she still got 58% life. So I always wonder - what the hell
have you done the last 5 minutes? She only lost 2% life? wtf? Yeah, because I was 5 minutes busy
running around and healing my toons. Zooming out, looking for ony, running towards her, casting
a frostshock and chain-healing my toons again.

any ideas? :(

I'd love to try it again this evening but only if I've got a new idea how to get her down.
Otherwise I'll go to stratholme farming cloth, essences and dust (oh, and my mount ofc).
I've made 600 gold yesterday with two UBRS runs :-D

[nomenquis]

whelps are a bit annoying but consecration + thunderstorm works.

my problem:
ony is flying around and always out of range or not in front of me so I can't cast any spells.
If I start moving, my toons follow my main and the next firebolt hits my whole group
(I loose ~15-20% Life with my shamans when a firebolt hits the group)

so this is more running and chainhealing the group than DPS on Onyxia.
I try to always make sure that one or two whelps are hitting the healer, and preferably more toons. Water shield _really_ shines then :)

As for moving, as I suggested previously, try to run either just the 3 dd or simply move each dd on its own.

Bunching up at 70 can be rather dangerous in case you get a deep breath and fail to resist a lot of it's dmg.

[Kaynin]

1x fire resist, 2x healing stream, 1x mana spring.
When 4-boxing this with 80 shammies my biggest problem is running out of mana when she's at 60% hp..

Can't really die, but after OOM the fight goes slowly.

You probably are in PvP spec/PvP gear then, no?

If you go in PvE spec it's nearly impossible to go oom. And even when you do go oom, you an still do 75% of the dps. :P

[Zub]

1x fire resist, 2x healing stream, 1x mana spring.
When 4-boxing this with 80 shammies my biggest problem is running out of mana when she's at 60% hp..

Can't really die, but after OOM the fight goes slowly.
>.< 4x80 shamies should blast through Ony without any problem.



for those having problems with whelps, remember that the fire elementals can take them out easily, and since they are fire immune they dont care about Ony's fireballs/breaths.

I soloed her on my holy pally (to see if i could do it), really wasn't difficult i don't think i went below 70% hp or mana during the fight. It was just sloooooow (1h10 to kill her) . Even got a warden to joni in the fight (the one that spawns near the door)
Got 136g plus about 15-20g worth of epic and 2 bags. Not worth the time involved imho, but a fun encounter for sure.
Next time i'll bring a heavy DPS to speed things up

[Cash]

thought it would be a nice and fast way to get some extra gold because I'm currently trying to get
my flight mounts (non-epic) and so I haven't got bought the WOTLK extension yet so I get gold instead of exp.
Not so much on the Ony part here (duoing her with 80), but why exactly do you want to get your flying mount before hitting Northrend? You can't use it there until you get 77 anyways.

[beyond-tec]

1. price for WOTLK is falling =)
waiting saves you money so I'm trying to get my chars
complete (with mounts etc.) while I'm waiting.

2. I've reached the level-cap. So I get gold instead of EXP. It is currently easy to make money.

3. Ony would be a nice weekly farm run (150G for ~15 Mins work).

[Ghallo]

If you want fast gold - do the Sunwell Dailies. If you do the MBox friendly ones you can complete several in about an hour - which was 125g per toon for me. That's a lot better than Ony :)

[Hachoo]

So whats the deal with her deep breath?

I went and took her on tonight for the first time ever with an 80 DK heroic geared and 4x 80 shamans heroic geared, and on phase 2 the first fight it said "Onyxia takes a deep breath" and then blam ALL 5 of my guys died...my tank was topped off with 27k hp and he still insta-died.

Second time i went at it she never did a deep breath and my guys hardly got hurt. So whats the deal? Is there any way to even protect against that or what?

[Gares]

So whats the deal with her deep breath?

I went and took her on tonight for the first time ever with an 80 DK heroic geared and 4x 80 shamans heroic geared, and on phase 2 the first fight it said "Onyxia takes a deep breath" and then blam ALL 5 of my guys died...my tank was topped off with 27k hp and he still insta-died.

Second time i went at it she never did a deep breath and my guys hardly got hurt. So whats the deal? Is there any way to even protect against that or what?

The Deep Breath was her move to wipe half your raid out because they were grouped too close together. I was hit by it lots this week and it only does like 4k damage. How the hell did you die to it?

The worst phase for her is 2 (in the air) cause your tank loses Aggro and almost never gets it back after she lands.

[Hachoo]

Not sure what happened....all 5 of my guys were at full hp and then they all died instantly - didn't even look back in the combat log unfortunately and its too late now. I didn't really need aggro back on my tank after phase 2 cause she hits for crap even on my shamans.

[Niley]

Not sure what happened....all 5 of my guys were at full hp and then they all died instantly - didn't even look back in the combat log unfortunately and its too late now. I didn't really need aggro back on my tank after phase 2 cause she hits for crap even on my shamans.

That's when You strafe....when You see her casting. Practice for easy Skadi kills ;)

[beyond-tec]

If you want fast gold - do the Sunwell Dailies. If you do the MBox friendly ones you can complete several in about an hour - which was 125g per toon for me. That's a lot better than Ony :) thanks for the tip.

I've heard several times to do the dailys in sunwell because the area is nearly empty.

So I've started yesterday and had a look at the quests. I've spent about 2 hours questing on the island
because I've never done any dailys there. Today I've done the quests again and it took me about 30 minutes to complete.

very easy and fast way to make gold. (~ 100G / character)

got 3/5 flight mounts. I think I'll start questing and doing dailys instead of instances and farm my flight mounts and epic flight mounts.
After that I'll collect 1000 G / character for cold weather flying and activate my WOTLK on all accounts.

[nomenquis]

The worst phase for her is 2 (in the air) cause your tank loses Aggro and almost never gets it back after she lands.


HINT:

Stop DPS when she lands. This was required back in the 40 man days. ;)Because nobody understood how aggro works with her. Today you can be 100% certain how it works with her (tanks to blizz sending us the data).
You can safely keep nuking once she lands, because she does _not_ have an aggro reset.
Since in p2 your dd will most likely surpass your tank by a huge margin (Thanks to her wing buffet it's rather easy to do that even in p1) you simply won't get aggro back for a long while. So just nuke the hell out of her :)