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hellsown
11-30-2008, 12:15 AM
Just bought this...


LX6200-01
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) 9500 Quad-Core Processor (4 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
Memory: 7934MB RAM
Page File: 1992MB used, 14112MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 32bit Unicode
also running GT9800 OC for my vid card



but running 1 wow instance..i am getting 20 fps even with /console commands..any help plz...its brand new pc..bought today.

really appreciate...tyvm

hellsown
11-30-2008, 03:59 AM
ok thnks...i will try...

algol
11-30-2008, 04:49 AM
Updating your BIOS and motherboard chipset drivers probably wouldn't hurt either.

Note that you have given us inadequate data to say much - for starters, you've said nothing about your resolution or other settings you're trying to run the game at, nor where you're at that you're getting 20FPS (e.g. 20FPS in Dalaran is pretty high). And you told us that your "DX Setup Parameters" weren't found - but not even what version of Windows this is on, or that much about the computer's specifications. Yeah...if you knew which bits were important, you'd know the answer already...but we probably need more than just that. It's hard to give suggestions beyond the generic "update your drivers, why haven't you updated your drivers yet" response with so little to go on.

hellsown
11-30-2008, 04:10 PM
well..as i stated above..i have running 8gigs of ram..so has to be vista 64...even in out in northerend..i am only getting 20-30fps..20 in any city...but 8 gigs of ram...quad processor,( which is up to date, along with bios) Gt9800 OC vid card...i should be running at full fps..no matter where i am outside of a city...i have always 4 boxed, was hoping to 5 box..but...a

as far as directx 10 parameters not found..might be the issue...but it came installed with the pc...so fixing it idk...

eqjoe
11-30-2008, 04:12 PM
Dual boot into XP or Vista 32 and check out that theory. It is possible that you have a driver that is not optimized for x64.

-j

hellsown
11-30-2008, 11:02 PM
i wouldnt know where to begin to dual boot...

zanthor
11-30-2008, 11:21 PM
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) 9500 Quad-Core Processor (4 CPUs), ~2.2GHz God AMD should be sued for this. The 9X00 series processors are absolute shit, if you want a good phenom system it MUST be a 9X50 series processor. I have a 9600 and without serious technical hacking it runs like poop. To top it off you are most likely running a pre-built system if it came with a 9500 in it, which means it's loaded with shit software as well thats choking it up.

FOUND IT! ('http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=180338') <== That is a link to the TLB Disable tool. It will fix your AMD 9X00 cpu so it runs at full speed. Please note this isn't a one time fix, every time you reboot, you have to refix.

eqjoe
12-01-2008, 12:45 AM
i wouldnt know where to begin to dual boot...http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_xp__stepbystep_guide_wi th_screenshots.htm

-j

eqjoe
12-01-2008, 12:50 AM
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) 9500 Quad-Core Processor (4 CPUs), ~2.2GHz God AMD should be sued for this. The 9X00 series processors are absolute shit, if you want a good phenom system it MUST be a 9X50 series processor. I have a 9600 and without serious technical hacking it runs like poop. To top it off you are most likely running a pre-built system if it came with a 9500 in it, which means it's loaded with shit software as well thats choking it up.

FOUND IT! ('http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=180338') <== That is a link to the TLB Disable tool. It will fix your AMD 9X00 cpu so it runs at full speed. Please note this isn't a one time fix, every time you reboot, you have to refix.WoW .. dude. Tell us what you really think!

I am reading that AMD's quad-core Phenom should perform somewhere in the vicinity of Intel Core 2 Qual Processors of the same clock speed, except they are cheaper.

-j

zanthor
12-01-2008, 12:57 AM
WoW .. dude. Tell us what you really think!

I am reading that AMD's quad-core Phenom should perform somewhere in the vicinity of Intel Core 2 Qual Processors of the same clock speed, except they are cheaper.

-j This is an accurate statement for any of the AMD Phenoms that are 9X50 model numbers. It also applies to the 9X00 model numbers when you disable teh TLB Eratta. The TLB Eratta is a bug in the processors architecture that instead of fixing properly AMD simply decided to patch over by disabling the feature. The end result is a loss of 20-50% of the performance of the chip.

Fizzler
12-01-2008, 05:00 PM
I have the exact same PC. I picked it up on the cheap for a multimedia computer. For shits and giggles I tried 5 boxing with it. It was piss poor to say the least. I heard about the TLB issue I have not been tempted to try the fix as it is not my main gaming machine. I have a spare ATI HD 4670 video card that I put in the machine to see if I could get better performance out of it... no joy. RAM is running at about 50% and CPU is topping out at 100%. Unfortunately the power supply is all but welded in the machine and short of adding a second power supply I can not up the video power anymore (not that it is the problem)

Running Northrend my main screen gets 20fps if I do not move or breathe and 10-15fps if I even flinch.

One of the first things I do with a pre-built PC of which I rarely buy is uninstall everything that is not needed. I even disabled gobs of services.

Watch out for the Realtek drivers in this thing, straight out of the box svhost.exe was using 20-25% of the CPU all the time. That particular svhost was pointing to Plug and Play and DComLaunch. A quick uninstall of the Realtek drivers and a restart fixed that problem. There is some sort of issue with the enchanced sound feature from REaltek that keep the processor going. I did not even have to reinstall another version of the sound drivers , the generic Vista HD drivers worked fine. In your process manager you can go to view and turn on some additional columns which will give you some good information. CPU Time was a handy one. I noticed svhost.exe was active 25% of the time which is what brought it to my attention.

I might try the TLB fix later I will let you know what I find.