Moved from -Focus- to -Party1- system, small issue with /Follow

[Ualaa]

I'm trying to set up a leaderless system, where any of my shammies can be leader as easily as any other, making targeting the lead toon ineffective.
I was using:

/cast [target=focustarget] Lightning Bolt
/targetlastenemy
/cleartarget

- and -

/follow focus


But have switched to:

/assist [party1]
/targetlastenemy
/cast Lightning Bolt
/cleartarget

-and-

/follow party1


Unfortunately, my current leader attempts to follow a toon in my group.
Is there a generic macro (as in one that will be the same for all of my toons), where each follows the party leader, but the party leader does not attempt to follow anyone?

[Jheusse]

2 ways to look at this I think, as I've got something similar in my current very crude setup, where everyone hits /follow party1 so the main shammy tries to follow the second one in line. Currently I just hit the macro and then go back to movement keys, breaking follow.

1- There's some sort of [nomod] stopmacro command you can put in at the beginning so that the active window stops the macro before assisting or following. The macro experts can probably clarify.

2- the standard UI does not consider the main active char (the large unit up in the corner) as party1. One of the standard unit frames addons does this, so rather than 1 large and 4 smaller units (party-party4) you have 5 equal sized unit frames and party1-party5 works properly.

[keyclone]

ok, i have a question... :D

if you have the following characters: joe, sam, bob, tim, and ted

on each character, is party1 always the same? what about party2? when i flip between characters, the party list is always in a different order.

what sets the order? should i not auto-invite/auto-accept?

[Pringle]

I believe the order is related to the charater's creation timestamp. I remember reading something to that affect while researching multiboxing, but don't have a source to cite.

[Marious]

I thought Party1 was referring to the leader of the group and what his set up is, so if the set up for the leader is.

leader xxxxx
second toon yyyyy
third toon zzzzz

Yes they will be different in the other screens with you at the top and not the same as the leader set up as above but I believe that party 1 always refers to the leader of the party so if you put party 2 then it should be yyyyyy or at least thats what I understand I could be totally wrong.

Can some one with a little bit more knowledge correct me if I am wrong.

[Jafula]

Unfortunately, my current leader attempts to follow a toon in my group.
Is there a generic macro (as in one that will be the same for all of my toons), where each follows the party leader, but the party leader does not attempt to follow anyone?
Are you using Jamba? You have posted in the main Jamba thread at least...

If you are using Jamba, if you sync your Jamba master at the same time you change your leader, you can use

/jamba-follow master

to follow the master, which will solve your problem.


I'm trying to set up a leaderless system, where any of my shammies can be leader as easily as any other, making targeting the lead toon ineffective.


Have a read of my post in this thread ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=128422#post128422') . I have a system using focus and Jamba where any of my characters can be the leader as easily as any other.

[Ualaa]

I'll try the Jamba-follow master.

I'm still experimenting with macro's to find what works best for me.
My G-keys (G13, G14, G15, G16 and G17):
- Run the Maximizer command to bring the corresponding window to the front.
- Warcraft has a macro for each toon (same keybind as the Maximizer hotkey), which on the other four toons promotes the new master to party leader, and on the new master runs Jamba Setmeasmaster all.

The G18 key was /follow focus, and has become the /Follow party1.
I'll try to change it to /jamba-follow master and see how that goes.

The no focus assist will be nice, once its working as intended, as I'll be able to use Focus to remember CC's for my PvE group (Prot Pally, Dream Druid, Mage, Warlock, Elem Shammy) and be able to attack both current target and focus target for the shammy PvP group.

[Ualaa]

I needed to add the "all" to the end of /jamba-follow master all, but that did the trick.

Thankyou )

[Jafula]

The no focus assist will be nice, once its working as intended, as I'll be able to use Focus to remember CC's for my PvE group (Prot Pally, Dream Druid, Mage, Warlock, Elem Shammy) and be able to attack both current target and focus target for the shammy PvP group. Yes, the party1 idea is nice as it frees up focus and target. Hmmm, tempting...

[ilililil]

I found a script somewhere that utilized

/target focus
/follow
/assist
/stopcasting

I was using this as my primary button "1." Now that I am level 52, Its time that I actually start making an effort with scripts to utilize something that changes leader when one of my toons dies. Is adding the /follow jamba master command the best way? I have Jamba, but I havent figured out how to change who my leader is effectively(FAST) when I die. I have a macro setup and I can change my WoW windows without any issue. Is there a way to have it so that when I use my F1-F5 to change my wow window, when someone dies, the "F1-5" key also assigns that new person leader, and all other party members set him as the new focus? Sorry for the nooby question, while I have found 20 threads on leader both here and at hotkeynet, I havent figured out how to make this work.

[Ualaa]

I was using this as my primary button "1." Now that I am level 52, Its time that I actually start making an effort with scripts to utilize something that changes leader when one of my toons dies. Is adding the /follow jamba master command the best way? I have Jamba, but I havent figured out how to change who my leader is effectively(FAST) when I die. I have a macro setup and I can change my WoW windows without any issue. Is there a way to have it so that when I use my F1-F5 to change my wow window, when someone dies, the "F1-5" key also assigns that new person leader, and all other party members set him as the new focus? Sorry for the nooby question, while I have found 20 threads on leader both here and at hotkeynet, I havent figured out how to make this work.




When I press my switch toon key, in my case Shift-F1 through Shift-F5, keyclone broadcasts that to each of my clients.
The Shift-F(#) key tells Keyclone's Maximizer to bring that toon's window to the active front position.
Warcraft has a macro on each of those keybinds as well. So with a five toon group, they each have five macro's.

For the toon who is the new leader (macro 1, for toon 1 // macro 2 for toon 2 // etc), it reads like this:
/jamba setmeasmaster all
/changeactionbar 2

For every other toon (ie the ones who are not being made leader), their macro on that hotkey reads:
/changeactionbar 1
/script PromoteToLeader("TOON-NAME");

The reason for the changeactionbar commands is because party1 results the party leader for the non-leader's, but its the first toon for the leader. IE, party1 = pressing F2 in game using the default keybindings.
I have assist versions of all my spells on the first action bar, and non-assist versions on the second bar.

So when I press the Shift-F4 keybind:
1. Maximizer brings my toon 4 window to the front.
2. Warcraft clicks the promote to leader and go to action bar 1 macro for every toon except toon 4.
3. Warcraft clicks the toon 4 macro which puts that toon on bar 2 and makes it the current Jamba leader.

So when I press my follow macro (which is a Jamba command)...
/jamba-follow master all
The current master runs, while the other toons follow that toon. Whoever is active is considered the master by Jamba.





If you are using F1-F5 to change the active toon, and want to use Focus for your assist method, there is no reason to change the party leader as well.
In the place of my wow-macro's, where I have one for the new leader and four for the not-to-be-leader toon's, you could simply run a macro like this:
/Focus NewToonName

So your F1 key brings that region to the front, and has all toons click the macro on keybinding F1, which makes that toon the Focus for the group.
Pressing F2 does the maximizer command for that toon's region to be in the front, while having all of your toons make that toon the new focus.

Follow Focus will work for your follow commands, because the focus will be the moving/active toon for all toons. It won't try to follow itself but all of the others will.





I prefer the party leader system.
The major benefit is having Focus free for another use.
The drawback is losing an actionbar worth of keybinds.
In either method, you have a full actionbar (as many spells/abilities) as you normally use, which assist the active toon (Party1 = party leader // or // Focus).

The focus system gives you an extra bar of hotkeys.
The party leader system costs you that bar, but gives you the /Focus command for PvP focus-firing without targeting or for PvE crowd control.

Either will easily switch the leader and/or focus as a wow macro and switch the active region as a keyclone (or other software application) hotkey.

[ilililil]

Thanks for the response, attaching the F# bind to a /focus "charname" might be the best route.

I also make the following assumption based on what you said.

focus - AV battleground, 5 or more player environment where the possession of leader may be subject to restrictions outside of your control

party1- arena, and if ur doing something that is strictly confined to 5 players wherein you have sayso for who is leader.

I might actually adopt the change of action bar as well, this way its more customized as who i primarily control will generally utilize different spellset than slaves.


Thanks for the help!