Who's the 30 boxer? :)

[Yamio]

grats, almost level 1
ROFL

[Prepared]

I just wrote a program that will open wow, enter the account name, enter the password, get to the character screen, close open windows cept wow, log in the other 4 on the same computer in the same way and then close itself lol ...

So now I can press a single key and have all 26 at the character screen with the program that got them there closed before I start to play!


Nice. I just use Octopus to do that for me. I enter the password once from my main computer but all of the WoW screens come up from Octopus for me. Thanks to the great write up by Ughmahedhurtz, I can use the maximizer in Octopus now.

[Xzin]

This is starting to turn epic. 9000+ page views.... it is almost like a cold war. Russians vs the US. This has promise, even if Sam is slow to get out of the gate.

[Stealthy]

Guys - whether you agree or disagree with what Sam is doing, please keep the dicussions civil. Trading of personal insults won't be tolerated.

Don't be like this guy!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/goodpain/Banhammer.jpg

Cheers,
Stealthymod

[Naylix]

Regarding boxing different raidbosses in wow, I must agree that quite a few of them simply are not feasible to box, simply because you have to (quoting my old GM) "GET OUT OF THE FECKING FIRE" - where fire can be fire, stonespikes, blizzard, green, yellow, red, blue fire, waterspouts, meteors, poison, volcanoes, termites, ticking timebombs, aoe, pbaoe, falling debris, godzilla tailswipes or otherwise.

Examples: Baron Geddon in Molten Core - fire elemental, does Hellfire type AoE around himself that ticks for a few thousand firedmg, and randomly targets a raidmember (this can be the tank aswell) and debuffs them with a living bomb, meaning they explode and deal loads of damage to themselves and those around them - you do not die from this, but you are propelled into the air, and the added falldamage will often kill you. 2 bombs in a row on top of your raid, will most likely wipe you - 25 chainheals might be enough to save it though, so perhaps the fight can simply be healed through. Then again, Molten Core is by far the easiest lvl 60 raidinstance (excluding Zul'gurub, as that actually contains more technical fights than MC).

Naxxramas has been brought up - ok, go read up on the 4 horsemen fight. There is NO way in the world you will box that fight. It's simply not possible. 4 different stacking debuffs from the bosses, that each cover 25% of the room - provided you have seperated the 4 bosses into each corner of the room. Now, the bosses themselves also has a bunch of different abilities, none too hard to deal with really. the mechanic just means, that you will have to switch tanks, healers and dps, in a circular pattern, without leaving either of the bosses untanked at any time (because of even one of them moves to the middle of the room, you're d-e-a-d). This fight is easier as lvl 70, I've done it with 21 people in raid - BUT that is only because each and every person there had above 10k health - myself as a hunter sitting @ 13k raidbuffed. This allowed for some "elbowroom" for small mistakes.

Twin Emperors in AQ40: must be tanked apart, if 1 of them dies, so does the other. One is immune to spelldmg, the other immune to physical. If they are not kept separated across the room, they heal eachother for more dps than you can muster. This again means 4 tanks - 2 physical, 2 spelldmg. Also, adds are joining the fight 2-3 at a time.

Heigan in Naxxramas: phase 1 = nuke from podium, while tank moves him back and forth between poison splashes, commonly known as "dancing". phase 2 then teleports heigan to the podium, and the raid has to run onto the floor, doing the "dance" between poison splashes. The fight switches between those 2 phases, throughout the fight. Also, as a little "twist" - in phase 1 he randomly teleports 3 people into a hallway outside the room, where those 3 then have to run a sort of gauntlet, past mindflaying worms and maggots. And then rejoin the fight between splashes.

TBC instances contain loads of fights, where the raid has to split up and do separate tasks. A real challenge(read: impossible) would be Mount Hyjal and Archimonde. Watch a video of the fight, and you will be convinced.

Actually, watching videos after reading a quick tactic on bosskillers or wowwiki can be a very good way to see which fights are simply not doable.

On the other hand, a rogue has tanked Illidan, so with the right gear and spec, people's inginuity continues to surprise.

[Carnage]

Offtopic but:

Even then, that place has been 3 man'd. Some bosses are even soloable, warrior tanks / tankadins can solo garr - some people in my guild do it.

[puppychow]

I just wrote a program that will open wow, enter the account name, enter the password, get to the character screen, close open windows cept wow, log in the other 4 on the same computer in the same way and then close itself lol ...

So now I can press a single key and have all 26 at the character screen with the program that got them there closed before I start to play!

Ya I might be behind now but I am getting PREPARED.

Well Prepared might also be Prepared but Prepared isn't as Prepared as I'm Prepared cause I'm really Prepared in general and I'm even getting Prepared for Prepared.
be very, very careful of what you are doing with programs launching WoW. I believe you use WinEQ2, Blizzard has banned people for launchign WoW under that before (some bans were reversed, some were not). Doing stuff like auto entering passwords or auto reconnecting could be potential grounds for getting your account banned. Also while inside the game, the basic rule is that every action requires the user to type in a key/mouseclick, and you cannot "chain" actions unless its inside a wow macro (using /stopcasting, and even then that only works for specific spells and only 2 chain). Many AHK users write scripts that try to go around this, and they are just asking for trouble.

I know you are going to argue and say what you are doing is not botting, automation, etc, etc. it does not matter what you or I think, all that matters is what Blizzard thinks. They are much, much harsher than SOE (EQ) in terms of bans and getting account bans reversed is very difficult. WinEQ2 imo is not a great platform to run WoW under, because it so closely shares the codebase with Innerspace and Blizzard has heavily targeted Innerspace this year for banning (multiple banwaves). The way warden works is if it detects something it doesn't like, your account is auto banned without a single human review, and then getting your account unbanned can take weeks and many emails/faxes.

[Nixi]

Anything more than 10 is setting yourself up for disappointment.

I could easily expand my 10 into 25 (or 40), and I've considered it on many occasions, but there are no realistic goals to be accomplished in World of Warcraft for anything beyond 10 characters.

I mean if your goal is to raid cities/towns of the enemy faction, sure you can do it, but Wow wasn't designed with that as an endgame style of play to be rewarding on a longterm basis. So you get your kicks for a few days, but the fun will quickly fade. Ask Fur how often he goes to Gadget to raise hell. I read a post of his awhile back that was rather amusing, and it sounded like he had fun, but I doubt he did it more than once or twice (i believe it was in the hunter post). When you extrapolate that 5 man raid of a small town to 25+ of a player city.. it's pretty much the same and there are no tangible rewards to be had.

As many people have posted before in this thread, most raid boss encounters are incredibly complex and they are simply not doable as a single individual. I can't do Netherspite in Karazhan for this reason, and he's easy compared to some of the other mechanics that are employed to make other raid bosses difficult and exciting to fight. I 3 boxed Netherspite before, but never got him down 10-boxing the encounter solo.

It's just a guess, but I highly doubt any of the 10 mans in WotLK will be any easier than Karazhan or Zul'Aman.

Oh, and I proclaim myself as the best PVE boxer, because I've actually 10 boxed my way through a raid dungeon. :thumbup:

Keep us updated and let us know when you guys catch up.

[Havelcek]

Oh, and I proclaim myself as the best PVE boxer, because I've actually 10 boxed my way through a raid dungeon. :thumbup:
Well said. :thumbup:

[Sanctume]

Man, I joined the RAF 2 weeks after it came out. Then I took a "casual" 2 weeks to level 4 toons.
Level 45 Shaman + 45 Warlock = 12 hours.

Level 61 Shaman + 60 Mage = 26 hours.

I kinda stopped for a bit after getting the Shaman to 61.

[Prepared]

I use ONE keyboard, and ONE mouse. I never have to move my body at all, just my arms at the most to get FULL 100 percent control of any of my 26 guys in under 8 seconds. I think we can assume from your setup if someone just shouted random characters of yours to control you would not be able to get to them in under 8 seconds by any means. And I think its also clear you cannot play over 4 hours a day consistantly with that set up without nuermous achs and pains. I mean you have to turn your head to see the other monitors .... I just glance up and ot the right at the farthest, i can touch all my screens while facing the main one.

Oh the pain in operating a keyboard and mouse. It's too unbearable for me as you've stated Sam. You're stronger, faster and more powerful than me with your 26 characters. Oh wait, you've not started playing WoW yet! That could explain your statements up to now about the WoW raid encounters too.


If the Giants claimed to be a better football team then the Patriats because they won the superbowl would they be "uncivil". Prepared says Octopus is better then Keyclone is he being "uncivil" to Keyclone?

Compare apples to apples and the statement would be:
If the Giants had all players on the sidelines because they were injured and lost because they couldn't operate as well as a team such as the Patriots that had all of their players operating effectively, that would be a better comparison to the two software products you've mentioned.

[Bena]

ugh.. getting 26 toons banned before even starting.. now THAT would suck! not sure if I should laugh or cry here.. ?(


I just wrote a program that will open wow, enter the account name, enter the password, get to the character screen, close open windows cept wow, log in the other 4 on the same computer in the same way and then close itself lol ...

I don't remember where I read it, but doing just that can be considered automation and its against the ToS.

I know, its silly as all hell.

[Sam DeathWalker]

WinEQ is not bannable.


believe you use WinEQ2, Blizzard has banned people for launchign WoW under that before (some bans were reversed, some were not).

ALL were reversed ... And again is does LESS then keyclone.

Thats why I shut the program off before I log in. It dosnt run after I get to the character screen ... I closes before I enter the game.

Since when is this a "WoW only multiboxing forum", all you guys claiming I'm just starting wow are right, but who here has 280 days played on their wow characters like I have on my Main EQ toons? No one here is even close to the time I have put in on EQ, why do you think I cannot do the same here? You don't think that a guy who has proven he can do 280 plus days (thats one one guy let alone 24) in EQ can't pass your 30 40 or 50 days in wow ...

[Zub]

Since when is this a "WoW only multiboxing forum", all you guys claiming I'm just starting wow are right, but who here has 280 days played on their wow characters like I have on my Main EQ toons? No one here is even close to the time I have put in on EQ, why do you think I cannot do the same here? You don't think that a guy who has proven he can do 280 plus days (thats one one guy let alone 24) in EQ can't pass your 30 40 or 50 days in wow ... Sorry, not sure who you are responding/directing this to.

Have you created all your toons?
Note that your paly will probably have to run all the way from his starting place to the tauren starting lands.
Actually scrap that, if you RAFd it you'll be able to summon it there directly.

also note that you'll get 'class' quests, usually every 10 levels or so (4 totem quests for shamies, others for palies (mounts+) then quests at 50 as well) and you might have to do them separately because they are class specific.

Prepared/Sam, do you guys have an ETA on when you might reach 40 / 60 / 70 ?
It's be interesting to see how the progress goes.
You guys plan on staying at 60 until the 3.0 patch hits for quicker xp 60-70?, maybe do tradeskills or pvp in the meantime or something?
Not that there's really a point, i guess levelling to 70 asap is probably the best.

I really wonder it it wouldn't be quicker to level raf-level the accounts 5 by 5 instead of 25+ byt 25.
How much downtime you got for leveling so many together? there must be alot of 'administrative' downtime (macros, people stuck, break /follow etc)

I don't know whats wrong with this thread.. Sam's arrogance and Prepared's progression makes it like watching a 2 headed baby.. it's difficult/painful to look at it, but somehow you can't keep your eyes out of it.

[iztehzha]

WinEQ is not bannable.



believe you use WinEQ2, Blizzard has banned people for launchign WoW under that before (some bans were reversed, some were not).

ALL were reversed ... And again is does LESS then keyclone.

Thats why I shut the program off before I log in. It dosnt run after I get to the character screen ... I closes before I enter the game.

Since when is this a "WoW only multiboxing forum", all you guys claiming I'm just starting wow are right, but who here has 280 days played on their wow characters like I have on my Main EQ toons? No one here is even close to the time I have put in on EQ, why do you think I cannot do the same here? You don't think that a guy who has proven he can do 280 plus days (thats one one guy let alone 24) in EQ can't pass your 30 40 or 50 days in wow ...Side-Note - I have 2 chars with ~300 days /played from BEFORE I started multiboxing.. I find it pretty odd that you write stuff like that 0o

[Zub]

Side-Note - I have 2 chars with ~300 days /played from BEFORE I started multiboxing.. I find it pretty odd that you write stuff like that 0o
Don't worry about it, it's just his way of making sentences (arrogant 'Better than thou" e-peen thing).
Next i believe he'll say you probably haven't done it alone, and you should show screenshots and you're probably not telling the truth anyway.
As i said, don't worry about it. check http://samdeathwalker.com and you'll understand right away.

[Lorune]

All i see on the site is a hippy stuck in the 60's

Kinda suits his retarded comments...

[Jamien]

mmm played time e-peen.
A friend of mine uses his G15 to make him continuously jump removing AFK status.
Effectively nullifies any "lulz I have <insert giant number here> hours played on my char!"

My first character took almost 5 months to hit 60 when I first played, it has around 40 days played.
My rogue had about 6 days played when it hit 70, and about 12 days played when it was in full epics?

I could leave my PC on 24/7/365 jumping so that I had a ridiculous played time, but it wouldnt account to anything

[Prepared]

Since when is this a "WoW only multiboxing forum", all you guys claiming I'm just starting wow are right, but who here has 280 days played on their wow characters like I have on my Main EQ toons? No one here is even close to the time I have put in on EQ, why do you think I cannot do the same here? You don't think that a guy who has proven he can do 280 plus days (thats one one guy let alone 24) in EQ can't pass your 30 40 or 50 days in wow ...
Prepared/Sam, do you guys have an ETA on when you might reach 40 / 60 / 70 ?
It's be interesting to see how the progress goes.
You guys plan on staying at 60 until the 3.0 patch hits for quicker xp 60-70?, maybe do tradeskills or pvp in the meantime or something?
Not that there's really a point, i guess levelling to 70 asap is probably the best.

I really wonder it it wouldn't be quicker to level raf-level the accounts 5 by 5 instead of 25+ byt 25.
How much downtime you got for leveling so many together? there must be alot of 'administrative' downtime (macros, people stuck, break /follow etc)


I'm going to reach level 40 next week. For level 60, it will be probably sometime in October. That largely depends on the number of PvPers I run into while leveling up. It's quite interesting to see how players attack me and find they can't kill me so they get on their main level 70 on the same realm and do it with their buddies. One 70 rogue now has a difficult time killing a few of my shamans. He has to vanish and come back or he dies. I'm still only level 34. I have 8 groups of 4 in each group. So the quests I do are done 8 times. I'm skipping all collecting quests unless it's a single drop where the drop occurs for all members of the group. I'm averaging about a level a day when I play the shaman. For the today and yesterday, I was playing a new set of alts that I got to level 21. That's for the recruit-a-friend bonus levels those will be applied to. That's so that I can get at least 16 level 50's. If time permits, I will level those to 30 and ding them to 60 from the Shaman. Those are all priests and mages, except for 2 that are a paladin and a druid (for buffs).

I'm planning to use up my double experience when I get to 60. I want to make level 70 as soon as possible on the PvP realm that I play on. The main reason is so that I can defend against the 70 attackers that like to cause me grief. Once I get to level 70, it's all BG's and PvP gear work until the expansion is released. I'm anticipating the expansion will be released in December. Probably around the 4th or 5th. That's just my guess on it as there has been no mention of any release date on it yet but beta testing is still going on now.

It would probably be easier in one way to level 5 at time instead of all 32 for me, however, on a PvP realm, if a 70 sees a multiboxer, he gives them no slack, at least that's what I've seen.

[Carnage]

Since when is this a "WoW only multiboxing forum", all you guys claiming I'm just starting wow are right, but who here has 280 days played on their wow characters like I have on my Main EQ toons? No one here is even close to the time I have put in on EQ, why do you think I cannot do the same here? You don't think that a guy who has proven he can do 280 plus days (thats one one guy let alone 24) in EQ can't pass your 30 40 or 50 days in wow ... Time played means jack, all it represents is when you started playing the game and how much free time you have had to play the game. My main and only level 70 is a mage, i started playing a couple years ago and it took me around 2 months to get to 60. I was very casual back then, i quit the game untill 4 months after TBC came out - bought the game, leveled to 70 - my /played is 186 days and my /played @ level 70 is 137 days. Just represents how much free time i have had to play being a 17 year old college student ;).

[Tizer]

I lost any interest in what these two chimps are trying to do on about page 3. Having come back and read the last page/threads, i think i made a good choice xD

[Sam DeathWalker]

Except for not having 5 man groups seems Prepared has a solid plan indeed. Wise to level up some extra classes I thinks.

280 days is on my non bazzar toon ... I know lots have more time then me I am just commenting on everyone claiming that I am slow to get started. Getting all the "administrative" stuff out of the way at the start so that when I do exp I won't be goofing around re writing macros and what not. Oh ya I was dreading the run for the Pal to the shaman but ya RAF summoning lol ... woot!

[Zub]

Except for not having 5 man groups seems Prepared has a solid plan indeed. Wise to level up some extra classes I thinks.

280 days is on my non bazzar toon ... I know lots have more time then me I am just commenting on everyone claiming that I am slow to get started. Getting all the "administrative" stuff out of the way at the start so that when I do exp I won't be goofing around re writing macros and what not. Oh ya I was dreading the run for the Pal to the shaman but ya RAF summoning lol ... woot!
The thing is, there is so much you dont know that you'll need to redo your macro heaps of times, like everybody else.

To me it seems you're basically trying to learn how to drive by reading the car manual, when really you should get in the car and give it a go.

[Prepared]

I use ONE keyboard, and ONE mouse. I never have to move my body at all, just my arms at the most to get FULL 100 percent control of any of my 26 guys in under 8 seconds.

Thanks for the recommendation. In modifying my screen configuration, I moved the screen that I had to the far right to the front as shown in this new picture of my set up:

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/3963/mycomputersetup002mq8.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mycomputersetup002mq8.jpg)


So now I have 26 characters to my front and 6 to my left. Thanks Sam, you have helped me out!

[Fortis]

Wow, 15 pages. This was an interesting read. Nice Setup Prepared! Though I dont exactly get why you box 32 :-)

[Seraphaw]

I use ONE keyboard, and ONE mouse. I never have to move my body at all, just my arms at the most to get FULL 100 percent control of any of my 26 guys in under 8 seconds.

Thanks for the recommendation. In modifying my screen configuration, I moved the screen that I had to the far right to the front as shown in this new picture of my set up:

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/3963/mycomputersetup002mq8.th.jpg ('http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mycomputersetup002mq8.jpg')


So now I have 26 characters to my front and 6 to my left. Thanks Sam, you have helped me out!

There we go, two giant nerds helping each other out. After walking through 15 pages of this cesspool I am now feeling better.

[noose]

sam, you may not know it, but the persistant attitudes of wow within eq is a problem you have. you think just beacause it take a LITTLE BIT longer to level, death penalty, and AA make EQ "harder".

if you somehow bevieve that the grind is what makes a game harder then i guess your right. personally i think that shits for retards. to each his own.

"in-combat" is the key word here. the mechanics and coordination required in wow to tackle a lvl 30 GROUP dungeon are about on par with a PoR RAID. in-combat, wow is significantly harder than eq on many levels. this is specifically why so many told you to atleast level 1 toon to 70 first.

[Menthu]

I got something very important to state here:

I like cake!

My contribution to this very important thread.

-Jungle love

[Zub]

I like cake!
I think you're pretending to like cake, or maybe you do no like cake alone, as you've not showed any screenshots or details or your cake liking.
On the other hand, *I* LOVE cake, and call myself the top-cake lover of wow, worldwide.

I've been cited in many forums as the top cake lover, and have been loving cake since times forgotten. I even have a cake recipe signed by Gary Gigax.
This i believe makes me by far the top-cake lover.

[Tasty]

I like cake!
I think you're pretending to like cake, or maybe you do no like cake alone, as you've not showed any screenshots or details or your cake liking.
On the other hand, *I* LOVE cake, and call myself the top-cake lover of wow, worldwide.

I've been cited in many forums as the top cake lover, and have been loving cake since times forgotten. I even have a cake recipe signed by Gary Gigax.
This i believe makes me by far the top-cake lover.whats your /cakeseaten at?


:P sorry all couldn't resist

[Zub]

whats your /cakeseaten at?
OVER NINE THOUSAND!!

[Knytestorme]

Except for not having 5 man groups seems Prepared has a solid plan indeed. Wise to level up some extra classes I thinks.

280 days is on my non bazzar toon ... I know lots have more time then me I am just commenting on everyone claiming that I am slow to get started. Getting all the "administrative" stuff out of the way at the start so that when I do exp I won't be goofing around re writing macros and what not. Oh ya I was dreading the run for the Pal to the shaman but ya RAF summoning lol ... woot!



Meh, I had more than 280 days played on my multiboxed EQ characters before I left to start playing WoW at launch.....seems you are just all round slow Sam, with your leveling and your mindset.

I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt and ignore your history on FoH but you just start up the same crap here and turn what could have been an interesting thread with Prepared's comments into a rehash of your burst dps thread. You were fucking retardedly wrong then, and you are more so in every post you have made about WoW showing you know absolutely nothing about the gameplay or mechanics of a system you are already trying to claim you are the best at.

[krinkle]

Yikes, I can't believe I just read this whole thread.

@Prepared & Sam:

Please less bickering and post more videos/pics!!

[Menthu]

I think you're pretending to like cake, or maybe you do no like cake alone, as you've not showed any screenshots or details or your cake liking.
On the other hand, *I* LOVE cake, and call myself the top-cake lover of wow, worldwide.

I've been cited in many forums as the top cake lover, and have been loving cake since times forgotten. I even have a cake recipe signed by Gary Gigax.
This i believe makes me by far the top-cake lover. Clearly your field of expertise lies in the "birthday cake" kind of cake. I admire your passion.

I am the webmaster of the largest website that gives information about cake and accessories.

Personally I eat cake since the ancient chinese dynasties.

Proof, my first cake:
http://www.puerhshop.com/images/oldtree_yiwu.jpg

This ofcourse is a replica of that famous cake. In those times, there weren't any camera's.

What is your cake setup?
How many screens do you have to watch the cakes? I mean.....I need to watch a cake all day!

-Jungle Love

[NevadaGuy]

Does anyone who has ever leveled a WoW toon over 20 find this re-occurring statement from Sam as wildly amusing "get FULL 100 percent control of any of my 26 guys in under 8 seconds."

Sam, give up dude, stop bragging and have fun in WoW, it's a friggin game.

Prepared, good on you for not retreating to his level.

[mikekim]

my motto for life (and threads like this)

"never argue with an idiot, as they will drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience"

[Tasty]

This isn't a bump, I'm certainly not bumping this thread for the lol value ;) Btw guys how's things progressing?

[Sam DeathWalker]

RL problems is taking up a lot of my time, but I got everything the way I want it on one machine (keyclone and super fast never miss alt tab type switching, not the pip type switching), the other machines can't get the switching right yet but this is my last obstical. Have all the macros, and keyclone set ups written and ready to role. Iv spent over 25 hours so far on the switching problem. WinEQ is lagging in support, logitech is a complete joke, 99 percent of software can't be used cause of banning possibilities, and Keyclone is concentrating on pip switching as 98 percent of his users are tilers. No easy solutions here.

Lots good to say about Keyclone otherwise though, super fast log in, full control of background rates, and full sceen regions. Not perfect in all respects but I would say the best out there all things considered.

Ill probably be switching tons and tons of times or so over the next 5 years so shaving time off switching (while keeping low background rates) is extremely critical. Eight seconds is a very high estimate, I really don't want to make claims that I can't back up. Ill provide actual videos at some point. On my main computer right I can switch accounts as fast as I can press the same button twice, and thats pretty fast, constantly. My play style is going to rely heavy on switching (5 cast nuke, I look at Pal - need heal yes - switch to next 5 in .75 seconds 5 cast heal - Pal healed - switch to next 5 cast nuke ... etc.). And if 5 is enought to kill the mob why waste mana on 25 nukes? And I can easy tag with any group first so the exp is flowing equally most the time. I will decide on the fly if I need healing or not and do accodingly. Im switching in between .5 and .75 seconds, Ill time it when I get all 6 machines doing it. And I still have keyclone for the times (pvp) with I want to nuke with all 25 ...

Everyone else just jumps into the game as fast as possible, I know I have tons of time ahead of me to go and need to really have everything as perfect as possible.

So assuming .75 seconds I'm about 4 seconds away from full control of any character, as compared to others who scoot their chair or move their hand a large distance just to get to the other keyboard, let alone to the exact character on that keyboard.

Im a multi multi boxer, keyboard turner, full screen switcher ... Is there any mmo crime I have not committed?

Is that true that people can turn their character faster with a mouse then with a keyboard? I'd like to time test that sometime.

[Xzin]

Is that true that people can turn their character faster with a mouse then with a keyboard? I'd like to time test that sometime.

Much faster.

Not to boast but I managed to control 10 characters with a single X-Keys Pro. I don't need to move my hand off to switch. Doing it in hardware for you would be wicked expensive but response times to switch would be measured in milliseconds - just avert your gaze.

[Zub]

Is that true that people can turn their character faster with a mouse then with a keyboard? I'd like to time test that sometime.
logging in any one of your 26 toons would have answered this right away. Toons get the ability to turn at level 1 :-)

In one mouse move (.3 sec?) i can turn my toon 720 degrees, it would take 5-6 seconds to do that by keyboard.
Not that 720 degrees has any kind of purpose, but it gives you an idea. To face backwards using the mouse is instant. It takes 2seconds with a keyboard, leaving any enemy ample time to walk through you and have you turn again

[Prepared]

This isn't a bump, I'm certainly not bumping this thread for the lol value ;) Btw guys how's things progressing?

For me, really good. I'm up to level 39 on all 32 shaman tonight. Ran into some level 70 rogues, warriors and hunters. Killed the 70 warrior about 3 times before he finally finished all my characters off. Got the rogue twice. The hunter, he was a little smarter. He actually ran off during the battle 3 times and left his pet to fight for him. That all happened today. Yes, I can kill 70's on Aegwynn even if most of the spells are resisted because of so many of the Shamans. Plus I keep Lightning Shield on almost all of the time given it's a PvP realm. 70 mages can still take out my entire crew quite easily but not for long... When the melees kill one of my main assists, I usually switch to another under a second and keep firing. Not sure why others takes up to 4 seconds to do that but Octopus works wonders for multple computers and is very fast with all of the options I need.

I'm thinking I might get a mage, priest and druid levelling after I get all 32 to 70. Then I'll 35 in total. With 7 groups of 5 to level up to 80 with the expansion, it will take awhile but hey, it's FUN! :)

[Tasty]

This isn't a bump, I'm certainly not bumping this thread for the lol value ;) Btw guys how's things progressing?

For me, really good. I'm up to level 39 on all 32 shaman tonight. Ran into some level 70 rogues, warriors and hunters. Killed the 70 warrior about 3 times before he finally finished all my characters off. Got the rogue twice. The hunter, he was a little smarter. He actually ran off during the battle 3 times and left his pet to fight for him. That all happened today. Yes, I can kill 70's on Aegwynn even if most of the spells are resisted because of so many of the Shamans. Plus I keep Lightning Shield on almost all of the time given it's a PvP realm. 70 mages can still take out my entire crew quite easily but not for long... When the melees kill one of my main assists, I usually switch to another under a second and keep firing. Not sure why others takes up to 4 seconds to do that but Octopus works wonders for multple computers and is very fast with all of the options I need.

I'm thinking I might get a mage, priest and druid levelling after I get all 32 to 70. Then I'll 35 in total. With 7 groups of 5 to level up to 80 with the expansion, it will take awhile but hey, it's FUN! :)Lol I wonder whats going through there heads as they cut down all your characters. PS Killing 70's at level 39 is OP ;)

[NoobShammy]

My hat is off to you really, Its impressive i have x5 shaman team and never would consider a bigger squad, hec sometimes i think x5 is just too mcuh but what exactly is the alure of 26 shamanys? Do your own 25 man raids is the ony thing that come to mind besides that i kinda draw a blank.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Not to boast but I managed to control 10 characters with a single X-Keys Pro. I don't need to move my hand off to switch.

Thats the right way to do things, minimize hand movement as much as can be done.

[Tasty]

My hat is off to you really, Its impressive i have x5 shaman team and never would consider a bigger squad, hec sometimes i think x5 is just too mcuh but what exactly is the alure of 26 shamanys? Do your own 25 man raids is the ony thing that come to mind besides that i kinda draw a blank.

I'd love to be able to zerg down entire guilds before they could get into the raid :P

[Menthu]

WTB more views in this epic thread!

-Jungle love

[Los]

All the whining against the guys with 20+ accounts, i so hope you prove all the haters wrong, too bad if you dont succeed but you would have at least tried it, and that calls out for much more then just saying 'it cant be done'.

What would ppl think about the 10box of kz, or the first time zin started pvping, or for ellay getting topnotch ratings, they all said it couldnt be done, prove them wrong, you have my blessing for thinking outside 'the' box.

[Tasty]

All the whining against the guys with 20+ accounts, i so hope you prove all the haters wrong, too bad if you dont succeed but you would have at least tried it, and that calls out for much more then just saying 'it cant be done'.

What would ppl think about the 10box of kz, or the first time zin started pvping, or for ellay getting topnotch ratings, they all said it couldnt be done, prove them wrong, you have my blessing for thinking outside 'the' box.Heh by my count prepared has already succeeded :D but thats just me. /respect (find out what it means to me)

[Zub]

All the whining against the guys with 20+ accounts, i so hope you prove all the haters wrong, too bad if you dont succeed but you would have at least tried it, and that calls out for much more then just saying 'it cant be done'.

What would ppl think about the 10box of kz, or the first time zin started pvping, or for ellay getting topnotch ratings, they all said it couldnt be done, prove them wrong, you have my blessing for thinking outside 'the' box.
To be honest, i think most people in this topic are not whining about the fact that they are boxing that many toons, i personaly find this quite amazing and am looking forward to seeing screenshots.

I think most 'haters' (such a strong word :-| ) here are just reacting to Sam's childish arrogance and gargantuesque epeen.. displayed BEFORE he actually achieved anything.

[Prepared]

All the whining against the guys with 20+ accounts, i so hope you prove all the haters wrong, too bad if you dont succeed but you would have at least tried it, and that calls out for much more then just saying 'it cant be done'.

What would ppl think about the 10box of kz, or the first time zin started pvping, or for ellay getting topnotch ratings, they all said it couldnt be done, prove them wrong, you have my blessing for thinking outside 'the' box.


DING!!!!!!!! Prepared is LEVEL 40!!!!!!!!!!

[Tasty]

Wait wait wait, I wasn't prepared! :p

[valkry]

Ok, you HAVE to ding all your chars lvl 70 using the archmage Val quests so you can summon his image to turn in a quest. And you HAVE to do this in a city or near a starting zone so we can all roll 2-5 low lvls on your server and make a big party :)

[Tasty]

Ok, you HAVE to ding all your chars lvl 70 using the archmage Val quests so you can summon his image to turn in a quest. And you HAVE to do this in a city or near a starting zone so we can all roll 2-5 low lvls on your server and make a big party :)Great idea :D... we should do that for you as well


PS: I feel worse than I did yesterday

[valkry]

Going to be a few weeks before I hit 70 I reckon, what with swp/bt raids and going to perth for a holiday end of next week :)

[Tasty]

Going to be a few weeks before I hit 70 I reckon, what with swp/bt raids and going to perth for a holiday end of next week :)Raids are lame :P

[valkry]

Going to be a few weeks before I hit 70 I reckon, what with swp/bt raids and going to perth for a holiday end of next week :)Raids are lame :P
So is your FACE!

Oooo yeah 8) 8) 8) 8)

[Tasty]

I can't think of anything to say to that :/

[Xzin]

/respect (find out what it means to me)

/sockittomesockittomesockittomesockittomesockittome sockittomesockittomesockittomesockittome

[Zub]

DING!!!!!!!! Prepared is LEVEL 40!!!!!!!!!!

Grats! Good going.

[Yamio]

/respect (find out what it means to me)

/sockittomesockittomesockittomesockittomesockittome sockittomesockittomesockittomesockittomeI'll see that and raise ya!

/realrealrealrealrealrealrealrealrealrealrealreal

[Suvega]

PREPARED, NOW THAT I HAVE BUMPED YOUR FAME POST, CAN I DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO:

@Prepared ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=13146')

I'm curious. Thx.

[Kedash00]

My brother was in org like 2 weeks ago and said there was a guy boxing 30 shammys, and i was like bull shit, so after a little searching i found this thread, and he's on my freakin server, i tracked him down last night in swamp of sorrows cause i wanted to see for myself, and he dropped some many totems it made my pc lag lol. It hasen't lagged since i got it. But props to you Prepared for boxing 32 shammys, i did a /who in SoS and there were 37 shamans in that zone lol, 5 mine the rest yours, it make me laugh.

Oh and btw, if you wanna do some lvl 60 instances like MC or something some time hit me up, i have a Pally tank i'm leveling up with the group with RAF for instances.

[Bradster]

Surfing the web I discovered this lol. I found it I didn't make it (sorry Sam, too funny not to post). :whistling:

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/retard-rickshaw/85521d1219178612-deathwalker-plans-26-boxing-wow-deathwalkersloincloth.gif

[Zub]

Haha that's legendary indeed

[Prepared]

My brother was in org like 2 weeks ago and said there was a guy boxing 30 shammys, and i was like bull shit, so after a little searching i found this thread, and he's on my freakin server, i tracked him down last night in swamp of sorrows cause i wanted to see for myself, and he dropped some many totems it made my pc lag lol. It hasen't lagged since i got it. But props to you Prepared for boxing 32 shammys, i did a /who in SoS and there were 37 shamans in that zone lol, 5 mine the rest yours, it make me laugh.

Oh and btw, if you wanna do some lvl 60 instances like MC or something some time hit me up, i have a Pally tank i'm leveling up with the group with RAF for instances.

It's official, I'm up to 35 accounts now. Couldn't resist the option to move my PVE level 70 characters to the PVP realm Aegwynn and decided I will keep 3 level 70's with my shaman from now on to buff and kill enemies that try to slow me down.

Will post pics as soon as my character transfers are all done.

[valkry]

I pity Alliance on your server, i really do. You will dominte world pvp and any area you are in will be totally unsafe for them. There is pretty much nothing they will be able to do about it lol, totems alone will pump out enough dps to kill anyone.

It is so awesome, I will be there for the ding if you advertise when it will happen for sure.

[Zub]

I pity Alliance on your server, i really do. You will dominte world pvp and any area you are in will be totally unsafe for them. There is pretty much nothing they will be able to do about it lol, totems alone will pump out enough dps to kill anyone.

It is so awesome, I will be there for the ding if you advertise when it will happen for sure.
The animation on 32 toons dinging 70 at the same time will probably crash the server

[glo]

Has Sam listed his group make up?

I read this entire thread and found myself shaking my head regularly.

This guy seems like a jerk but I have to say he's braver then average(ignorance?). Jumping into a new game without any plan at all or even the most basic experience of what your finished project should look like in order to begin forming said plan, ballsy. Following that up by touting yourself as the future "best player" in a game that has 10million+ subscribers many of which have played for years, ballsier. Alienating by far the most knowledgeable group of people on the planet when it comes to your planned(not so planned as the case may be) project while still in the inception phase, ballsiest.

This may be the most negative post I ever make on this forum but wow, just wow ;)


8 seconds in wow is a lifetime
very little can be done with pure dps unless heavily over geared which makes the content a waste of time
your attitude is going to make leveling hard, you probably shouldn't post on your realm forums until 80

Having said all that I wish you luck!

[Los]

My brother was in org like 2 weeks ago and said there was a guy boxing 30 shammys, and i was like bull shit, so after a little searching i found this thread, and he's on my freakin server, i tracked him down last night in swamp of sorrows cause i wanted to see for myself, and he dropped some many totems it made my pc lag lol. It hasen't lagged since i got it. But props to you Prepared for boxing 32 shammys, i did a /who in SoS and there were 37 shamans in that zone lol, 5 mine the rest yours, it make me laugh.

Oh and btw, if you wanna do some lvl 60 instances like MC or something some time hit me up, i have a Pally tank i'm leveling up with the group with RAF for instances.

It's official, I'm up to 35 accounts now. Couldn't resist the option to move my PVE level 70 characters to the PVP realm Aegwynn and decided I will keep 3 level 70's with my shaman from now on to buff and kill enemies that try to slow me down.

Will post pics as soon as my character transfers are all done.Screenies, movies, anything!
:)

[Zub]

Has Sam listed his group make up?

I read this entire thread and found myself shaking my head regularly.

This guy seems like a jerk but I have to say he's braver then average(ignorance?). Jumping into a new game without any plan at all or even the most basic experience of what your finished project should look like in order to begin forming said plan, ballsy. Following that up by touting yourself as the future "best player" in a game that has 10million+ subscribers many of which have played for years, ballsier. Alienating by far the most knowledgeable group of people on the planet when it comes to your planned(not so planned as the case may be) project while still in the inception phase, ballsiest.

This may be the most negative post I ever make on this forum but wow, just wow ;)


8 seconds in wow is a lifetime
very little can be done with pure dps unless heavily over geared which makes the content a waste of time
your attitude is going to make leveling hard, you probably shouldn't post on your realm forums until 80

Having said all that I wish you luck!
Sam has made his own thread: Who's the 26 BoXoR RoXoR? ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=120210#post120210')

[maximusss]

Following that up by touting yourself as the future "best player" in a game that has 10million+ subscribers many of which have played for years, ballsier.



laaal

This guy knows that he will never be the world's first to down some 25-man boss, right ? And if Sam EVER manages to get into some of the world's top arena teams, even as their fluffer, Im gonna give you guys all my gold.

gl man in your journey to becoming the best

ps. is he total nob, or total idiot ?

[Prepared]

This is what happens when a 70 mage tries to gank me:

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1131/wowscrnshot091508221555pq0.th.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot091508221555pq0.jpg)


The above is a result of a mage first killing about half of my team before he went down. Afterwards, the mage died 8 times in a row as he failed to realize there was a 70 mage, 70 druid, 70 priest and a 70 shaman in the mix with 32 level 48 shaman. And as of tonight, all 32 shaman are all level 49 and climbing. I will be creating an alt guild for my level 70's that are not shaman soon. Will post when I get it together. Right now, I'm working on getting to level 70 before the expansion is released on Nov 13th.

[Zub]

lol OMG.
Try and tab target something in this mess haha
good going. 49!
Almost finished with RAF

[Tonuss]

That's hysterical. What did you take him down with? Combo of lightning shield and spellcasts from the shaman?

[Prepared]

That's hysterical. What did you take him down with? Combo of lightning shield and spellcasts from the shaman?

I think lightning shield killed him one time that he ran right into the middle and cast his freeze in place spell. He rezzed twice and began casting aoe but my mage silenced him and all just assisted and instant nuked him another time. Then another time he rezzed and ran off so I let him go and continued buffing all of the shaman but he came back and ran into the pack again and died the same way. Another time he cast the freezing rain or whatever it's called and thought maybe he could kill me from a distance and aoe target the area but I saw him and started casting but he ran off then came back and didn't get away before he died. He tried all kinds of different ways to wipe me. A couple of times he got one or two of my shaman dead but that's as far as he got.

[TheBigBB]

Prepared, I love your team. It's so overkill that it's hilarious. You'll make world PVP a total nightmare for your opponents.

[Prepared]

Here is my main guild:

We Are Prepared ('http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Aegwynn&n=We+Are+Prepared&p=1')

It's got 33 members. All of them are me. In addition, there are 3 that I play from my alternate guild at the same time. Surprize, Flexible and Competition are my priest, druid and mage that come along with my shamans to buff and protect them. So I'm boxxing a total of 36 characters right now. That is the number of characters I will be storming Stormwind and blasting Ironforge with. There are some on the realm on Horde side that know that my goal is to raid those cities and they will be coming with me when I'm Prepared! Should be towards the end of October, just a few weeks before the expansion is released.

Stealth is for Cowards ('http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Aegwynn&n=Stealth%20is%20for%20Cowards&p=1')

Most of my alts are level 20, but after my shaman get to about level 62 or 63, I will level those level 20's to 31 so I can use the recruit-a-friend bonus levels on them to level 60.

The other thing I'm planning to do is be online the day of the expansion. It's funny because my friend just got a job at Fry's Electronics so I can get the expansion at a slight discount now. I'm still planning to buy all 36 copies of the expansion the moment it becomes available there. And because I really can't do instances in the new expansion (because it will take way too long with separate groups), I am planning to kill everything in my path in the open areas for quests.

[thinus]

It's got 33 members. All of them are me. In addition, there are 3 that I play from my alternate guild at the same time. Surprize, Flexible and Competition are my priest, druid and mage that come along with my shamans to buff and protect them.

So do you group up all your shaman and create a huge totem forest and then jump out with your priest and yell "SURPRIZE!"?

[glo]

You are leveling pretty quick considering how many toons you are playing.

The craziest part of this is you have actually played with professions on all those characters! Looks like you have given up the professions on all except for a couple for now? My theory is get them to the level cap and it makes leveling every profession easier/faster.

[Prepared]

You are leveling pretty quick considering how many toons you are playing.

The craziest part of this is you have actually played with professions on all those characters! Looks like you have given up the professions on all except for a couple for now? My theory is get them to the level cap and it makes leveling every profession easier/faster.

You're exactly right. My original first 16 characters were being worked with professions. Then I when recruit-a-friend came out and I got another 16, I only worked on skinning and a little enchanting. But now with the release date of Wrath of the Lich king for November 13th, I've decided I'm just going to focus on leveling only. No profession work for the shaman. The other reason I don't need to work on their professions is because of the move from my level 70's (one of each class from a non-pvp realm) that have all of the professions on different characters. I'm trying to keep up with skinning on two of the shaman, but looks like that may fall by the wayside...

[Turenn]

This is just so extremely impressive, you must have patience of a sait Prepared. I have to admit, I am jealous.

[Ken]

You are leveling pretty quick considering how many toons you are playing.

The craziest part of this is you have actually played with professions on all those characters! Looks like you have given up the professions on all except for a couple for now? My theory is get them to the level cap and it makes leveling every profession easier/faster.

You're exactly right. My original first 16 characters were being worked with professions. Then I when recruit-a-friend came out and I got another 16, I only worked on skinning and a little enchanting. But now with the release date of Wrath of the Lich king for November 13th, I've decided I'm just going to focus on leveling only. No profession work for the shaman. The other reason I don't need to work on their professions is because of the move from my level 70's (one of each class from a non-pvp realm) that have all of the professions on different characters. I'm trying to keep up with skinning on two of the shaman, but looks like that may fall by the wayside...

Also: You'll be able to earn 1000g+ per hour with dailies soon, so you'll be able to just buy everything you need. Of course you have to spend more money, but you don't *need* the whole pack to all have super gear, because it's all about strength in numbers anyway.

[noose]

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ner'zhul&n=Samdeathwkzz

gg eq mentality.

[Tasty]

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ner'zhul&n=Samdeathwkzz ('http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ner%27zhul&n=Samdeathwkzz')

gg eq mentality.I'm afraid I don't quite follow :|

[noose]

afraid I don't quite follow


starter gear at lvl 12.

[glo]

afraid I don't quite follow


starter gear at lvl 12.

Gear isn't worth worrying about with as many characters as he is boxing. With a project like that I wouldn't worry about anything but getting levels.

This guy might want to speed up a bit just to get to 60 before the RAF bonus runs out.

[Otlecs]

>starter gear at lvl 12.

So what? Gear means absolutely JACK to a multiboxer until we start instancing. My teams do their first 40 levels in tuxedos. Except my hunter team, who did them naked.

The only thing that raised an eyebrow for me on that profile is the Clefthide Leg Armor on the level 4 leggings :)

[glo]

>starter gear at lvl 12.

So what? Gear means absolutely JACK to a multiboxer until we start instancing. My teams do their first 40 levels in tuxedos. Except my hunter team, who did them naked.

The only thing that raised an eyebrow for me on that profile is the Clefthide Leg Armor on the level 4 leggings :)

I think this guy is a little over his head with this project, he would have been better off learning the basics of the game before trying to box that many characters. At this rate it'll take him a couple years to get to 80.

Sam you don't need to worry about enchants at low level, especially expensive ones like that leg armor. From what I've seen myself and from other boxers there is no point in bothering with any gearing at all other then equipping quest rewards.

[Zub]

just curious how you farm the money to get a leg enchant like that, with level 10-12 toons >.<
unless it's a gift? but the gifter should probably have warned about the waste of such an enchant on level 2 pants.

[Prepared]

just curious how you farm the money to get a leg enchant like that, with level 10-12 toons >.<
unless it's a gift? but the gifter should probably have warned about the waste of such an enchant on level 2 pants.


Hmm, yes that is very interesting. It had to be either a gift which can happen, I received 100g from someone while I was in Orgrimmar just in a big circle. It might have been that day the screen shot was taken and posted that is in this message thread. Another time, I got a 16 slot bag from someone and another time someone gave me 10g. They didn't even say anything, just opened trade and gave it. I was like: THANKS! It really helped me out.

Or it was received through some other means...?

[Seraphaw]

just curious how you farm the money to get a leg enchant like that, with level 10-12 toons >.<
unless it's a gift? but the gifter should probably have warned about the waste of such an enchant on level 2 pants.


Hmm, yes that is very interesting. It had to be either a gift which can happen, I received 100g from someone while I was in Orgrimmar just in a big circle. It might have been that day the screen shot was taken and posted that is in this message thread. Another time, I got a 16 slot bag from someone and another time someone gave me 10g. They didn't even say anything, just opened trade and gave it. I was like: THANKS! It really helped me out.

Or it was received through some other means...?Gratz on 54!:)
I read on the last page that you would gift levels when your shamans were 63-64 but you can't git any levels past level 60, so the max your army of alts will be is 59.

Keep on trucking!

(BTW, you are doing each 5man group at a time now outside of the raid? Will you keep on doing the same in outlands?)

[Prepared]

just curious how you farm the money to get a leg enchant like that, with level 10-12 toons >.<
unless it's a gift? but the gifter should probably have warned about the waste of such an enchant on level 2 pants.


Hmm, yes that is very interesting. It had to be either a gift which can happen, I received 100g from someone while I was in Orgrimmar just in a big circle. It might have been that day the screen shot was taken and posted that is in this message thread. Another time, I got a 16 slot bag from someone and another time someone gave me 10g. They didn't even say anything, just opened trade and gave it. I was like: THANKS! It really helped me out.

Or it was received through some other means...?Gratz on 54!:)
I read on the last page that you would gift levels when your shamans were 63-64 but you can't git any levels past level 60, so the max your army of alts will be is 59.

Keep on trucking!

(BTW, you are doing each 5man group at a time now outside of the raid? Will you keep on doing the same in outlands?)

I've read from several on here that you can gift when your past level 60 as long as the accounts are still linked, that is they are still within the 90 day timeframe from when the recruit started.

Right now, I'm in 8 groups of 4 = 32. I had to do it this way because of the way I started out the shaman to begin with. I originally had 16 accounts and had my 16 shaman up to level 22 when I found out about Recruit-A-Friend and started another 16 accounts from them. Once all of the shaman make level 60, they will be in 5 member groups.

16 of the shaman will receive the Zhevra mount when they reach level 60 which should be about next weekend. The other 16 will probably be riding the Orc wolf mount.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Some guy gave me 4 items which I guess are nice, I don't really know. Another gave me some kind of drink and another gave me some dynomite. ...

Still working on my UI, RL stuffs is coming down hard (did plumbing for 7 hours today ... ). Plan is to get shock spells and rez spell on PAL and head out again!

[Moorea]

I've read from several on here that you can gift when your past level 60 as long as the accounts are still linked, that is they are still within the 90 day timeframe from when the recruit started.

You can't gift to a toon higher than 60 - so the highest you can go with gifting is 60.999 and then ding 61 by doing the crossing of dark portal quest.

I'm pretty sure you can't gift to 61 or 62 ... etc... Someone plz show me if I'm wrong

[Prepared]

I've read from several on here that you can gift when your past level 60 as long as the accounts are still linked, that is they are still within the 90 day timeframe from when the recruit started.

You can't gift to a toon higher than 60 - so the highest you can go with gifting is 60.999 and then ding 61 by doing the crossing of dark portal quest.

I'm pretty sure you can't gift to 61 or 62 ... etc... Someone plz show me if I'm wrong

You can gift if you're the gifter giving the gift past level 60 from what I've read. That's what I wrote. I didn't say you can gift to a toon higher than 60. It's the one that is giving the gift that can be higher than 60. That allows you to gift to a toon up to level 60. But the one giving the gift must be level 61 or higher.

[Seraphaw]

I've read from several on here that you can gift when your past level 60 as long as the accounts are still linked, that is they are still within the 90 day timeframe from when the recruit started.

You can't gift to a toon higher than 60 - so the highest you can go with gifting is 60.999 and then ding 61 by doing the crossing of dark portal quest.

I'm pretty sure you can't gift to 61 or 62 ... etc... Someone plz show me if I'm wrong

You can gift if you're the gifter giving the gift past level 60 from what I've read. That's what I wrote. I didn't say you can gift to a toon higher than 60. It's the one that is giving the gift that can be higher than 60. That allows you to gift to a toon up to level 60. But the one giving the gift must be level 61 or higher.The highest you can ever gift a linked account EVER is 59, there is nothing else - No gifted char can go above 59 and the giver will lose the ability to gift levels at the ding of 61 . All my RAF priviliges (including summon friend) went away at the ding of 61.

[Moorea]

The highest you can ever gift a linked account EVER is 59, there is nothing else - No gifted char can go above 59 and the giver will lose the ability to gift levels at the ding of 61 . All my RAF priviliges (including summon friend) went away at the ding of 61.

that's wrong. I gifted toons to 60 with my 61

It's also wrong to say you can't summon. I summon my 59 with my 61 everyday to help my frostsaber quest travels.

[Zub]

The highest you can ever gift a linked account EVER is 59, there is nothing else - No gifted char can go above 59 and the giver will lose the ability to gift levels at the ding of 61 . All my RAF priviliges (including summon friend) went away at the ding of 61.
Alot of wrong in there indeed.

The giftER can be over 60 and still grant levels. Only restrictions are : 90 days, and giftEE must be under 60, and under giftER level.
So YES, you can use your level 63 to gift another toon to level 60.9999

You do NOT lose the ability to gift levels after 60. I have used this with my first RAF group (level 64) to gift a couple levels to an alt (level 30)
This explains why one of my mages is 30 when the other is 27. The 30 is the toon i tested it on, using one of the shamies who is now 70. The mage 30 is on the veteran account

I haven't tested the summoning, but yes after 60 you can't be summoned anymore. possibly you can still summon a non-60 toon even if the summonER is past 60.

[Prepared]

The highest you can ever gift a linked account EVER is 59, there is nothing else - No gifted char can go above 59 and the giver will lose the ability to gift levels at the ding of 61 . All my RAF priviliges (including summon friend) went away at the ding of 61.
Alot of wrong in there indeed.

The giftER can be over 60 and still grant levels. Only restrictions are : 90 days, and giftEE must be under 60, and under giftER level.
So YES, you can use your level 63 to gift another toon to level 60.9999

You do NOT lose the ability to gift levels after 60. I have used this with my first RAF group (level 64) to gift a couple levels to an alt (level 30)
This explains why one of my mages is 30 when the other is 27. The 30 is the toon i tested it on, using one of the shamies who is now 70. The mage 30 is on the veteran account

I haven't tested the summoning, but yes after 60 you can't be summoned anymore. possibly you can still summon a non-60 toon even if the summonER is past 60.


Cool, thanks for confirming. After my shamans all make level 61, I will work on my priests and mages to get them to level 30.999

By the way, has anyone noticed my Shaman talent spec trees? They're all following a popular shaman boxxing team here :)

[Moorea]

The highest you can ever gift a linked account EVER is 59, there is nothing else - No gifted char can go above 59 and the giver will lose the ability to gift levels at the ding of 61 . All my RAF priviliges (including summon friend) went away at the ding of 61.
Alot of wrong in there indeed.

The giftER can be over 60 and still grant levels. Only restrictions are : 90 days, and giftEE must be under 60, and under giftER level.
So YES, you can use your level 63 to gift another toon to level 60.9999

You do NOT lose the ability to gift levels after 60. I have used this with my first RAF group (level 64) to gift a couple levels to an alt (level 30)
This explains why one of my mages is 30 when the other is 27. The 30 is the toon i tested it on, using one of the shamies who is now 70. The mage 30 is on the veteran account

I haven't tested the summoning, but yes after 60 you can't be summoned anymore. possibly you can still summon a non-60 toon even if the summonER is past 60.

Ahem this should have been "Quoted from Seraphaw" not "Quoted from Moorea" thx :-) [please edit/correct your post - I don't like being attributed something (wrong) I didn't say]

And again, yes you can summon a level < 60 (ie up to 59 incl) with a higher level as I said above I did it until my druid just dinged 60 at which point I couldn't anymore

[Zub]

Ahem this should have been "Quoted from Seraphaw" not "Quoted from Moorea" thx :-) [please edit/correct your post - I don't like being attributed something (wrong) I didn't say]

And again, yes you can summon a level < 60 (ie up to 59 incl) with a higher level as I said above I did it until my druid just dinged 60 at which point I couldn't anymore
whoops, fixed indeed.
Sorry, i used your quote to do my quote and the names got mixed up >.<

[Zub]

Cool, thanks for confirming. After my shamans all make level 61, I will work on my priests and mages to get them to level 30.999
By the way, (someone please confirm) i believe you can only grant 29 levels per leveled 60 toon, as (i'm sure i read somewhere) you start getting levels to gift at level 3 or something.

if i were you i'd level the toons to 31.9999 just in case. it's easier to do 30-31 than 60-61 :-)

[Seraphaw]

Well I guess I stand corrected then, and I was so sure on my thing! :(

They must have changed the FAQ since day 1 or something... or my reading skills aren't quite what I thought they were.

[Fef]

The FAQ and even blue posts were very unclear about that issue, I think. I was only completely reassured when I myslelf gifted my paladin to level 60 from my level 60 Shaman.

[Prepared]

Cool, thanks for confirming. After my shamans all make level 61, I will work on my priests and mages to get them to level 30.999
By the way, (someone please confirm) i believe you can only grant 29 levels per leveled 60 toon, as (i'm sure i read somewhere) you start getting levels to gift at level 3 or something.

if i were you i'd level the toons to 31.9999 just in case. it's easier to do 30-31 than 60-61 :-)

Yes, 31.999 it will be. About to get to level 57 today. By this weekend, I should be level 60 on the shaman.

[Prepared]

Someone wanted me to post when I was going to ding level 60. I think it will be about 2 or 3pm tomorrow Pacific time. They all won't be dinging at the same time, will be over an hour time frame.

[glo]

Someone wanted me to post when I was going to ding level 60. I think it will be about 2 or 3pm tomorrow Pacific time. They all won't be dinging at the same time, will be over an hour time frame.

That is a pretty big milestone. I'd have to set it up where they all ding at the same time and fraps it or some such.

[Moorea]

Someone wanted me to post when I was going to ding level 60. I think it will be about 2 or 3pm tomorrow Pacific time. They all won't be dinging at the same time, will be over an hour time frame.

How do you manage to make all those toon progress at once so fast; you do need to do them 5 at a time don't you (as in raid you don't get xp/quest kills/etc....)

Are you doing this full time (do you work ?)

[glo]

Someone wanted me to post when I was going to ding level 60. I think it will be about 2 or 3pm tomorrow Pacific time. They all won't be dinging at the same time, will be over an hour time frame.

How do you manage to make all those toon progress at once so fast; you do need to do them 5 at a time don't you (as in raid you don't get xp/quest kills/etc....)

Are you doing this full time (do you work ?)

He can level them all in groups without being in a raid so no reason to do them 5 at a time and the RAF bonus makes leveling extremely fast.

[Prepared]

Someone wanted me to post when I was going to ding level 60. I think it will be about 2 or 3pm tomorrow Pacific time. They all won't be dinging at the same time, will be over an hour time frame.

How do you manage to make all those toon progress at once so fast; you do need to do them 5 at a time don't you (as in raid you don't get xp/quest kills/etc....)

Are you doing this full time (do you work ?)

He can level them all in groups without being in a raid so no reason to do them 5 at a time and the RAF bonus makes leveling extremely fast.

Esta correcto..

[Prepared]

Break out the CHAMPAGNE!!!!!!


DING!!! Prepared is NOW LEVEL 60!!!

Forming groups of 5 now...

[Xzin]

Break out the CHAMPAGNE!!!!!!


DING!!! Prepared is NOW LEVEL 60!!!

Forming groups of 5 now...

Haha Congrats!!!

[Tasty]

Grats! Setup live steam imo :P

[Zub]

Break out the CHAMPAGNE!!!!!!


DING!!! Prepared is NOW LEVEL 60!!!

Forming groups of 5 now...
Grats, quite an achievement already.
what's their /played like? and how long (RL time) did it take you to get those 32x60 levels?


If you're going to skip the outlands collection quests, make sure you grab ALL the other quests of the area, if not you'll run out of quests before you reach 70.
(at least it seems that's what happened to a number of people 5 boxing outlands)

I guess you'll raf the rest of your other toons to ~32 first tho.
Good luck.

[glo]

Huge grats on this milestone! Now get to 70 so you have time to play around before wotlk :)

[Prepared]

Break out the CHAMPAGNE!!!!!!


DING!!! Prepared is NOW LEVEL 60!!!

Forming groups of 5 now...
Grats, quite an achievement already.
what's their /played like? and how long (RL time) did it take you to get those 32x60 levels?


If you're going to skip the outlands collection quests, make sure you grab ALL the other quests of the area, if not you'll run out of quests before you reach 70.
(at least it seems that's what happened to a number of people 5 boxing outlands)

I guess you'll raf the rest of your other toons to ~32 first tho.
Good luck.

/played is about 15 days. Real life time? Hmm, probably 1 1/2 months.

I will be doing a few collection quests because there is some gear that I'd like to get while I get to level 70.

Here is a screen shot of 15 of the shaman with the Zhevra mount:

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[Toned]

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[Prepared]

I'm sorry Sam, but a little scrolling back through some of your boasts was necessary today...

Quote by Sam on August 28th:



I had some RL work to do this week, paid for my 27 accounts and ready to set things up this week. Im only running 26 though as the 27th is just for the mount.



It's almost a month later, you're at level 13 on your highest character? Well, that's not exactly flying through the levels, but you're making some progress.




My goal is to singally kill the strongest pve mob there is (as any pvp goal is going to be hard to set, and wont be as universal as a pve goal), by one person, and then to do some winning in pvp, maybe there will be some kind of wintergrasp ladder or leaderboard....

If I kill a stronger pve mob then anyone by themselves then I think I can claim to be the best single player. Might take years to get to that point but we will see.

How would you say who the best single person player in wow is right now? I would think that whoever killed the strongest boss mob by themselves would have that honor. Same in EQ.


Good luck with that! Even I am not considering doing such an endeavor. My goal is to take out Stormwind and Ironforge with the help of some of the Horde players on Aegwynn. I know I probably won't be able to do it by myself and it would be much more fun to have comrades with me on the fight through destroying those cities.





Well lets see if he's on for the long term ... He dosn't really have to pay anything untill the free week and month or whatever expires, then the bill comes in lol. I got 6 months on all 26 at 12.99 a month.



I also paid at 6 months on all my accounts and I've got my Zhevra mounts, so as you can see, they are all paid for the moment :thumbup:


Post by Sam on Friday, August 29th:



Ya getting to 70 is what counts thats for sure, Ill be on it. Donforget some of my guys in EQ have 280ish days on them of actuall playing.



You're really on it that's for sure! How much /played time you got so far?


Post by Sam on Saturday, August 30th:



4. He is not running a SINGLE mellee, thats means he is not able to set up his system to micro manage one character, which means umm well not sure yet.

5. Like everyone says this is not all that easy. I don't have a wife, I don't have childern, I don't have a 40 hour a week job, I don't have anyone to tell me what I can do or can't do with my time. Not a lot of people are in the postition I am. Plus I am older and know what its like to have done this or that, when you are young you always think that you will be happy when you do or have X thing, so there is lots to distract.'




Correct, I'm not boxxing a melee with my 36 boxxing team. The 32 shaman were going to be the only ones I boxxed, but since PvE to PvP character moves became available, I have more casters added that are level 70 already. My level 70 melee characters were moved as well, but they are on some of the same accounts as the shaman. So I have the option later to move the melees out to other accounts if I decide later to tackle some high-end PvE encounters that require tanks or other classes. By leveling up only Shaman, it was much faster to do than to have separate classes, plus I didn't need a Paladin or Warrior or any other class as my main goal is not PvE.

As you're deciding on whether or not you're going to do quests or grind through killing mobs, consider this: I did quests all the way to level 60 and it took me approximately 15 /played days. You can kill mobs and not do quests, but I believe it will take you a lot longer as you'll be missing out on completing quests across all groups where only one kill or even no kills are necessary. There are some quests where you just pick up something from a location. I would highly suggest you do every quest you can that doesn't require collecting items. Move around to different locations picking up the quests for your level. For example, there are more quests to kill things in Tarren Mill, Stranglethorn Vale as you level up. Move between the Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms. It actually saves time to spend time going between there to pick up the quests that allow you to kill things without looting a lot. Looting is what seems to take the most time. So by spending time on finding the quests that don't require loot, you're actually saving a lot of time. What I did was looked up each quest from wow.allakhazam.com and found the location where quest was needed. The location to complete quests are there, just scroll through all the boasting ?(

[Rin]

^^ There can only be 1 Prepared.

[glo]

I'm sorry Sam, but a little scrolling back through some of your boasts was necessary today...

Quote by Sam on August 28th:



I had some RL work to do this week, paid for my 27 accounts and ready to set things up this week. Im only running 26 though as the 27th is just for the mount.



It's almost a month later, you're at level 13 on your highest character? Well, that's not exactly flying through the levels, but you're making some progress.




My goal is to singally kill the strongest pve mob there is (as any pvp goal is going to be hard to set, and wont be as universal as a pve goal), by one person, and then to do some winning in pvp, maybe there will be some kind of wintergrasp ladder or leaderboard....

If I kill a stronger pve mob then anyone by themselves then I think I can claim to be the best single player. Might take years to get to that point but we will see.

How would you say who the best single person player in wow is right now? I would think that whoever killed the strongest boss mob by themselves would have that honor. Same in EQ.


Good luck with that! Even I am not considering doing such an endeavor. My goal is to take out Stormwind and Ironforge with the help of some of the Horde players on Aegwynn. I know I probably won't be able to do it by myself and it would be much more fun to have comrades with me on the fight through destroying those cities.





Well lets see if he's on for the long term ... He dosn't really have to pay anything untill the free week and month or whatever expires, then the bill comes in lol. I got 6 months on all 26 at 12.99 a month.



I also paid at 6 months on all my accounts and I've got my Zhevra mounts, so as you can see, they are all paid for the moment :thumbup:


Post by Sam on Friday, August 29th:



Ya getting to 70 is what counts thats for sure, Ill be on it. Donforget some of my guys in EQ have 280ish days on them of actuall playing.



You're really on it that's for sure! How much /played time you got so far?


Post by Sam on Saturday, August 30th:



4. He is not running a SINGLE mellee, thats means he is not able to set up his system to micro manage one character, which means umm well not sure yet.

5. Like everyone says this is not all that easy. I don't have a wife, I don't have childern, I don't have a 40 hour a week job, I don't have anyone to tell me what I can do or can't do with my time. Not a lot of people are in the postition I am. Plus I am older and know what its like to have done this or that, when you are young you always think that you will be happy when you do or have X thing, so there is lots to distract.'




Correct, I'm not boxxing a melee with my 36 boxxing team. The 32 shaman were going to be the only ones I boxxed, but since PvE to PvP character moves became available, I have more casters added that are level 70 already. My level 70 melee characters were moved as well, but they are on some of the same accounts as the shaman. So I have the option later to move the melees out to other accounts if I decide later to tackle some high-end PvE encounters that require tanks or other classes. By leveling up only Shaman, it was much faster to do than to have separate classes, plus I didn't need a Paladin or Warrior or any other class as my main goal is not PvE.

As you're deciding on whether or not you're going to do quests or grind through killing mobs, consider this: I did quests all the way to level 60 and it took me approximately 15 /played days. You can kill mobs and not do quests, but I believe it will take you a lot longer as you'll be missing out on completing quests across all groups where only one kill or even no kills are necessary. There are some quests where you just pick up something from a location. I would highly suggest you do every quest you can that doesn't require collecting items. Move around to different locations picking up the quests for your level. For example, there are more quests to kill things in Tarren Mill, Stranglethorn Vale as you level up. Move between the Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms. It actually saves time to spend time going between there to pick up the quests that allow you to kill things without looting a lot. Looting is what seems to take the most time. So by spending time on finding the quests that don't require loot, you're actually saving a lot of time. What I did was looked up each quest from wow.allakhazam.com and found the location where quest was needed. The location to complete quests are there, just scroll through all the boasting ?(

That guy has unrealistic expectations and is quite frankly unPrepared. I would love to see him succeed and do something unique in the game but it doesn't seem possible with his complete lack of knowledge and bravado as his only outstanding quality.

I guess there is a discussion on whether he should quest or grind, not really an argument worth having. If you just want to kill stuff at least pick up the quests and turn in the ones you accidentally complete while you are roaming aimlessly around the game.

[Marious]

Gratz on 60! Now get to 70 and get the flying mount and put them in the air and take some aerial shots of the bunch that should be fun.

[Bigdady92]

Prepared is an inspiration to Multi-boxers everywhere. If you want an example on how to do 10+ characters RIGHT, just look at what he has done and you'll find the most efficient way of doing it in the least amount of time.

[Jaws5]

Grats on 60

do you plan to gift lvls to mages now?

again grats
:)

[Prepared]

Grats on 60

do you plan to gift lvls to mages now?

again grats
:)

Going to level the mages and priests to 31.9 before gifting them. Also going to get the shamans to level 61. But for the last couple of days, I've been checking out the Wrath of the Lich King expansion. It appears that it takes up a lot more graphics and memory usage than does Burning Crusade. Looks like I might have to purchase another couple of desktop computers to handle it. We'll see.

[Sam DeathWalker]

With like 2 days played for sure Im lagging but things are going smoother now that add ons and what not have been ironed out. I have questhelper but killing mobs is so fasts I still dont know about quests but we will see. You are for sure far in the lead right now but lets see if you stick with it. In 6 months you will have another $2000 or so payment. Although this month I was lagging in game, out of game I am doing great and am sure to be able to keep paying for my accounts (and my 24 in EQ).

Still you have more guys and the only way I can win is to have each of mine one level in gear stonger then yours (unless I get more accounts), I guess.

Ahh well back to da grind.

[Xzin]

What happens when you both hit 70? He still wins. If you want to call it winning.

[glo]

What happens when you both hit 70? He still wins. If you want to call it winning.

That's where the guy that has played the game and knows what's up Prepares to start doing the stuff that actually requires effort and the other guy flounders around aimlessly spouting off about being #1 and how much money he has ;)

This is not for anyone specifically but IF you have 2 days played time and your highest character is level 12 you really need to learn how to play the game. If you don't feel like leveling a character at least read some guides or something. Even with 26 characters(or however many as I'm not being specific) it should take an hour with the RAF bonus and maybe if you are an extremely slow typist another hour to macro the one spell you are using at this point.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well umm I guess whoever kills the strongest npc mob solo wins, or maybe who has the most pvp world killz or something, whatever Im open to any resonable solo goal.

I guess the only way to really compare is who kills the strongest NPC, solo. I'v killed some level 20 mob, so I think its safe to say he is way way way ahead at this point. I would guess that the guy that killed Kazzan or whatever is the best right now, but the 10 man limit on instances kinda distorts things. Still if you kill a stonger mob with 10 then me or prepared does with 25 or 36 I would have to say that yur better then. So right now the top dog is the Kazzan killer, is that the strongest solo killed mob so far?

What good does gear or anything else matter if you can't turn it into killing mobs, or pvp oppenents.


I can tell you who will win right now. Prepared will be ahead for a year or two, then he will complete his ironforge goal or whatever and then be the best. At that point he will lose interest or RL will get in his way or he will hop to another new game and he will let his guys die. Meanwhile levels will raise and I will do what he did with fewer at higher levels after he is gone. Furor was better then me at one time in EQ. Where is he now? Xzin was the best boxer at one time.... people stop and new people come up, its the way of the world.

[Prepared]

Well umm I guess whoever kills the strongest npc mob solo wins, or maybe who has the most pvp world killz or something, whatever Im open to any resonable solo goal.

I guess the only way to really compare is who kills the strongest NPC, solo. I'v killed some level 20 mob, so I think its safe to say he is way way way ahead at this point. I would guess that the guy that killed Kazzan or whatever is the best right now, but the 10 man limit on instances kinda distorts things. Still if you kill a stonger mob with 10 then me or prepared does with 25 or 36 I would have to say that yur better then. So right now the top dog is the Kazzan killer, is that the strongest solo killed mob so far?

What good does gear or anything else matter if you can't turn it into killing mobs, or pvp oppenents.


I can tell you who will win right now. Prepared will be ahead for a year or two, then he will complete his ironforge goal or whatever and then be the best. At that point he will lose interest or RL will get in his way or he will hop to another new game and he will let his guys die. Meanwhile levels will raise and I will do what he did with fewer at higher levels after he is gone. Furor was better then me at one time in EQ. Where is he now? Xzin was the best boxer at one time.... people stop and new people come up, its the way of the world.

You were better than me on Everquest at one time Sam, where are you now? 8o

You already forgot, I started boxxing when Diablo 1 came out. I started Everquest 1 in March of 1999 and was boxxing every since until I started World of Warcraft. The other games that have been released don't even compare to WoW in capabilities and the main thing is the ability to box WoW is incredibly over and above most other games. I usually do check out new games, but the developers mostly think that it's in the ability to affect real time game play that is important and not just hit a few keys to do something. At least that's the way they describe it. To me, they have no clue whatsoever because they don't consider why World of Warcraft has been so popular and continues to be. The reason is because it appeals to the masses. It has the most capabilities to those that want to enjoy it in many different ways. By restricting game play to making a player do more to affect the battle, they lose a whole lot of players. I've posted that in many different forums and people just don't believe me, then when the game is released, they get a few hundred thousand players or even a million maybe if their lucky, but WoW continues to dominate at 10 million.

The main thing I like about WoW right now, is the ability to box in the game. Just about all new Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Games (MMORPGs) that have been released after WoW don't have the extensive macro capability that WoW has. So the chances that I'm going to move to another game are very slim to not happening. The other thing is, in MMORPGs, you never really complete all of your goals. My main goal is defeat Ironforge and Stormwind, but there are many others that I am planning also. There is always something the game has that you want to get or achieve. At least that's the way it has been for me. You can't really say you've done all of your goals in Everquest or WoW because there is always things the developers have in the game that you can get. And even after you've gotten what you wanted out of gear, there are other things such as PvP and PvE encounters that can still be done.

[Sam DeathWalker]

My 24 guys are still in eq. Ill have da MERCENARIES to help me outs to with my 6 million plats, but Ill be here in wow untill my raf is done constantly.

Time will tell ....

Ya the games are endless basically, thats for sure.

Well less talk more grind heh ... Ill be posting less, 2 days played in one month is sad and I better get to 60 prior to raf ending or I in bigs trouble.

[Zub]

Well umm I guess whoever kills the strongest npc mob solo wins
The warlocks who solo-killed (solo, as in 1 toon) Hydross probably won then ;-)

[puppychow]

i would say the winner is the person who actually plays and levels his characters and gets stuff done, rather than the person who just talks constantly about how great he is but is level 13 after 2 months... but maybe thats just me.

on a more serious note, the winners are very measurable in wow: highest arena rating for 5s (ellay), maybe most honor/day in wotlk, highest raid instance solod (nixxi and karazhan at the moment), maybe most gold on an account (china farmers!), and of course WOTLK is having achievements so you can easily rank each character by their "Achievement rating", aka xbox live gamer score. I don't see Sam hitting 80 in the next year so none of these are going to be in his grasp.

[Prepared]

i would say the winner is the person who actually plays and levels his characters and gets stuff done, rather than the person who just talks constantly about how great he is but is level 13 after 2 months... but maybe thats just me.

on a more serious note, the winners are very measurable in wow: highest arena rating for 5s (ellay), maybe most honor/day in wotlk, highest raid instance solod (nixxi and karazhan at the moment), maybe most gold on an account (china farmers!), and of course WOTLK is having achievements so you can easily rank each character by their "Achievement rating", aka xbox live gamer score. I don't see Sam hitting 80 in the next year so none of these are going to be in his grasp.


hmm, Wrath of the Lich King. I've got 9 shamans at level 80 on the Murmur server. However, level 80 on Murmur doesn't really mean anything because everyone on there is level 80 :) However, boxxing 9 shamans is WAY fun on there. Not run into any other boxxers on there yet and everyone seeing me has something to say it seems whether its good or bad. But playing a level 80 Shaman with all of the new talents for Elemental is WAY fun! :-)

Oh yea, I found a few things out also with the expansion. With my desktop hardware, I'm seeing about 200mb per copy more in the game while in the town of Dalaran (main town in the expansion similar to Shattrath in Burning Crusade) than with Burning Crusade in Shattrath. Also seeing more compute time. My measurements were all done using Task Manager's Processes and Performance tabs in Windows Vista. The game takes up about 15gb of hard drive space compared to about 9.5gb with Burning Crusade. I will need to add 1gb to 3 of my laptop computers. Other than that, I think I'm ok with the expansion in terms of hardware.

[Moorea]

You say wow is boxer friendly - but what's up with those corners in the game toons in follow keep getting stuck in in inns; towns; etc...

I only 5 box and I get really mad when I have to climb up the booty bay inn for instance; because I can't get it done in 1 try most of time 1 guy gets stuck somewhere along the way... how can you do it with 20+ and not end up throwing your keyboard at your screen ?

also just accepting quests or looting x5 is getting old very quick... same question; how do you keep sane with 20+ ?

[Zub]

how do you keep sane with 20
What makes you think he is sane ? ;)

[Ishar]

I so totally hate booty bay's flypoint too. But, really, the vast majority of the game isnt like that. and frequently, as bizzare as it may sound, if your lagless, you have better luck breaking autofollow and using arrow keys to navigate the clones.. (if when you do it their all overlapping and pointed in the same direction), you can ususally get pretty lucky with things like running up annoying spiral staircases.

Questions of his sanity aside, if i was trying to accept 20 quests all at once, well i'd do it 5 at a time till finished, LOL. Tho, it makes it less painful to use things like jamba, and make your follow macro reset your clones camera angle/zoom. Be interesting to hear if he has any tricks, lol.

[Prepared]

Recruit-a-friend Zhevra mounts on 15 orc shaman. The 16th one had another day before he could get his.

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3650/wowscrnshot092408214654gq7.th.jpg (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot092408214654gq7.jpg)

I'm not exactly sure what I should get for mounts for my other 16 orc shaman. Any ideas?

[Zub]

I'm not exactly sure what I should get for mounts for my other 16 orc shaman. Any ideas?
Go extreme, RAF another 16 accoutns and get more zhevras :p

[puppychow]

run some AV and get the AV wolf (50 AV tokens) or run a mix of BGs and get one of the PVP mounts.

[Sam DeathWalker]

I dont see the big deal, if these look liek the zhebras in the barrens. I think the kobo racial mount or the chicken thing the blood elfs have is looking better. But they are free and epic speed so ....

[Jaws5]

I would go for the AV frost wolf , it is 50 AV tokens but you can put all your toons in one av (with good timing) :)

[Prepared]

I got a visit by 2 gms today. No biggie, they just wanted to say 'hi'. I asked how they found out about me and they said just from others... lol...It might have been because I had sent in 32 petitions today about something that I thought was an exploit and the GMs all saw me boxxing.


The two ogres in the picture are the two GMs:

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4153/wowscrnshot100208232346ai9.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot100208232346ai9.jpg)

conversation took place where I was telling them about my battles with the Alliance... then it was time to continue on...

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9527/wowscrnshot100208234314vs5.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot100208234314vs5.jpg)

[Zub]

haha interesting
Way to make a first impression, dress as an ogre of course!

[Tizer]

Winning in WoW? Has nobody told you yet, there are no winners just whiners! :p

[genocyde]

I'm pretty sure the guy that one-shotted Doom Lord Kazzak in the level 60 days won the world of warcraft. Granted it was a reckoning bomb exploit that was hot fixed within 24 hours but seriously one white damage swing proccing countless *extra* swings (not a technical one shot) downing a world boss in less than 10 seconds with ONE TOON.... thats winning in my book lol!

[offive]

I'm pretty sure the guy that one-shotted Doom Lord Kazzak in the level 60 days won the world of warcraft. Granted it was a reckoning bomb exploit that was hot fixed within 24 hours but seriously one white damage swing proccing countless *extra* swings (not a technical one shot) downing a world boss in less than 10 seconds with ONE TOON.... thats winning in my book lol!

Ah the good old days....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xhgvouRprw ('http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xhgvouRprw')

I miss stuff like this, they need to let some of the bugs in for fun!

Grats to Prepared, or is that pre-paired?

[Prepared]

I'm pretty sure the guy that one-shotted Doom Lord Kazzak in the level 60 days won the world of warcraft. Granted it was a reckoning bomb exploit that was hot fixed within 24 hours but seriously one white damage swing proccing countless *extra* swings (not a technical one shot) downing a world boss in less than 10 seconds with ONE TOON.... thats winning in my book lol!

Ah the good old days....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xhgvouRprw ('http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xhgvouRprw')

I miss stuff like this, they need to let some of the bugs in for fun!

Grats to Prepared, or is that pre-paired?

A lot of the movies made and posted on youtube are not done on live realms. Many of them are made on realms that are not sanctioned by Blizzard. A video showing a world boss killed with one shot would be one that would have been made on a non-Blizzard realm. All of the settings on non-Blizzard realms can be adjusted and any characters can be created to appear they were on Blizzard realms.

[Prepared]

By the way, I'm level 23 on my alts now. The mages and priests are being worked up to level 31.9 and then will use the recruit-a-friend bonus levels to get them to 60.9 by Friday. Then it's back on the Shaman all the way to level 70! I'm glad the level requirements from 60 to 70 are being reduced. Does anyone know the official intended reduction? I heard some where that it was going to be 10% less per level but haven't see that from any Blizzard reps.

[glo]

I'm pretty sure the guy that one-shotted Doom Lord Kazzak in the level 60 days won the world of warcraft. Granted it was a reckoning bomb exploit that was hot fixed within 24 hours but seriously one white damage swing proccing countless *extra* swings (not a technical one shot) downing a world boss in less than 10 seconds with ONE TOON.... thats winning in my book lol!

Ah the good old days....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xhgvouRprw ('http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xhgvouRprw')

I miss stuff like this, they need to let some of the bugs in for fun!

Grats to Prepared, or is that pre-paired?

A lot of the movies made and posted on youtube are not done on live realms. Many of them are made on realms that are not sanctioned by Blizzard. A video showing a world boss killed with one shot would be one that would have been made on a non-Blizzard realm. All of the settings on non-Blizzard realms can be adjusted and any characters can be created to appear they were on Blizzard realms.

Raid bosses have been solo'd on live realms. For instance the warlock soloing Hydross and the pally killing Kazzak.

[puppychow]

My understanding is that patch 3.0 reduces the XP requirement, per level, from 60-70 by around 30% (slightly less I think). You can log in to the PTR and see how much the XP needed moved down, someone did that recently and I saw it was around 30% per level.

You can already do 60-70 via quests and skip all the collection quests, although you will only have around 1.5k or so gold at the end (if you save all 65+ quests till 70 you can knock them out and end up with almost 5k). So hopefully it'll allow more gold questing at 70 with the XP curve changes.

[Smoooth]

My understanding is that patch 3.0 reduces the XP requirement, per level, from 60-70 by around 30% (slightly less I think). You can log in to the PTR and see how much the XP needed moved down, someone did that recently and I saw it was around 30% per level.

You can already do 60-70 via quests and skip all the collection quests, although you will only have around 1.5k or so gold at the end (if you save all 65+ quests till 70 you can knock them out and end up with almost 5k). So hopefully it'll allow more gold questing at 70 with the XP curve changes.From what I've seen on the PTR the amount needed to level has been lowered 200k xp each level. So the lower 60s are affected alot more while 69-70 isn't much of a percentage change.

I've read that kills give 20% more xp. Not sure about quests though.

[Saithe]

I'm pretty sure the guy that one-shotted Doom Lord Kazzak in the level 60 days won the world of warcraft. Granted it was a reckoning bomb exploit that was hot fixed within 24 hours but seriously one white damage swing proccing countless *extra* swings (not a technical one shot) downing a world boss in less than 10 seconds with ONE TOON.... thats winning in my book lol!Well if you want to talk about a REAL one shot, there's a Warrior that one shotted one of the Emerald Dream dragons with a Rampage bug:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU82JNpZErQ (Which, according to the comments was hotfixed within 5 minutes).
But for raw skill, I would say Hunter vs World would be a serious contender for Winner of WoW.

[Pengster]

I have a follow up question. Is there a good posting that shows the number of people possible in a grp or raid? Mostly for outland-instances, would be greatly appreciated.
The only reason for super-multiboxing is to make business selling accounts - but hey, i can be wrong.

[valkry]

You can have 40 man raids.

Hmm, lvl 60 and already in Zangamarsh? Did you skip a lot of hellfire quests? I did most quests 5 boxing, even some collecting quests, and even farmed ramps for a while at lvl 63, and I still ran out of quests in all zones before hitting 70, so now I have to grind mana tombs for the last lvl. You might want to wait for the patch before continuing on much further otherwise you will be instance grinding too :(

[Prepared]

My understanding is that patch 3.0 reduces the XP requirement, per level, from 60-70 by around 30% (slightly less I think). You can log in to the PTR and see how much the XP needed moved down, someone did that recently and I saw it was around 30% per level.

You can already do 60-70 via quests and skip all the collection quests, although you will only have around 1.5k or so gold at the end (if you save all 65+ quests till 70 you can knock them out and end up with almost 5k). So hopefully it'll allow more gold questing at 70 with the XP curve changes.

I'm not worried about gold. And I am intending to do every quest that is not collection. I'm hoping that all 32 shaman will make level 70 before the expansion is released on November 13th. I will be working on them again once my mages and priests are level 31.9.

[Prepared]

I have a follow up question. Is there a good posting that shows the number of people possible in a grp or raid? Mostly for outland-instances, would be greatly appreciated.
The only reason for super-multiboxing is to make business selling accounts - but hey, i can be wrong.

No, I won't be selling any of my accounts sorry. There have been others ask me in the game why and thought I was going to sell them. I immediately inform them that it's against the Blizzard Terms of Service to sell anything in World of Warcraft for real money.

My reason as I've stated quite a number of times is to destroy the Alliance on Aegwynn. That's mostly the reason. The other reason is to do raid encounters but my primary focus is killing more alliance. :)

[Prepared]

You can have 40 man raids.

Hmm, lvl 60 and already in Zangamarsh? Did you skip a lot of hellfire quests? I did most quests 5 boxing, even some collecting quests, and even farmed ramps for a while at lvl 63, and I still ran out of quests in all zones before hitting 70, so now I have to grind mana tombs for the last lvl. You might want to wait for the patch before continuing on much further otherwise you will be instance grinding too :(

I have not skipped any quets that were non-collecting that I know about. I did 2 collecting quests because I wanted to get a shield and the other quest was right there too.

[valkry]

You can have 40 man raids.

Hmm, lvl 60 and already in Zangamarsh? Did you skip a lot of hellfire quests? I did most quests 5 boxing, even some collecting quests, and even farmed ramps for a while at lvl 63, and I still ran out of quests in all zones before hitting 70, so now I have to grind mana tombs for the last lvl. You might want to wait for the patch before continuing on much further otherwise you will be instance grinding too :(

I have not skipped any quets that were non-collecting that I know about. I did 2 collecting quests because I wanted to get a shield and the other quest was right there too.

Yea I did that shield one too. But wow, not even dinging to 61 from HFP and that is one of the most quest heavy zones. Really does show (and I learnt this from my own team of 5) just how much xp from killing mobs goes towards getting you to 70. On any single boxing toon HFP would get me to 62.

Oh yea, you get a few more quests there at 61 too :)

[merujo]

It might have been because I had sent in 32 petitions today about something that I thought was an exploit

nonsense !?

[Prepared]

It might have been because I had sent in 32 petitions today about something that I thought was an exploit

nonsense !?

No, if you want to know the details about it, here it is....

This is outside of multiboxing. That is, it has nothing to do with multiboxing. This happens on PvP realms. What happens is that a player takes up a quest and completes it, goes back to the quest giver to do the turn in and is unable to do it. Guards around the quest giver will attack either side if a player on either side (horde or alliance) attacks. However if a player on the opposite side is really high up on something like a mushroom in Zangarmarsh and casts fire spells or other spell down on the person trying to do the quest turn in, the player has nothing to do but either:

1. Die from the fire spells and not get the quest turned in.
2. Move away quickly to not die and not get the quest turned in.
3. Attack the caster high up in the mushrooms and die from the guards and not get the quest turned in.

Now take this a step further and instead of 1 player up high in the mushrooms, there are 3 of them that are watching the quest giver. All they're doing is staying up there so that no one can turn in the quest. Let's say the 3 that are high up in the mushrooms decides they are going to stay there all day long. Like 7 hours so that players of the opposite faction cannot turn in quests.

4. Another option once the player has either died or moved is to call in players on your side to fly up to the mushrooms and attack them. This may work or it could be that the 3 call in for more reinforcements like another 4 or 5 level 70's to help them.

That's what happened. Now, I could have rezzed, turned in quest and died. Which I did about 4 or 5 times on some of my shaman. Now I'm talking about the multiboxing side of things here. With 32 shaman, it would have taken me a LONG time. Instead of doing that, I petitioned 32 times because I wanted to know if this was legit or whether or not it was an exploit in the game that should be fixxed. I only started playing on a PvP realm when I started the Shaman about 2 months ago. So sometimes what appears to be not-right sometimes is ok. During the few minutes of waiting for the GM, I just let all 32 shaman die. Since the opposite faction gained no honor from my death (I was level 60 at the time and they were all level 70), I just let them all die while the GMs started answering my petitions. In speaking with the GMs, they seemed to think it was ok. I rezzed a few shaman, then the attackers started attacking on the ground and some of them died to the guards, some didn't, they ran off or blinked away, etc. Some of them attacked from a far distance so that the guards would not detect them, etc. So I just attacked them and killed them all with brute force by this time, but the rez spot was right near by so they kept rezzing and attacking from a distance, etc. I wasn't able to get to all of the GMs messages so I did a mass reply at one time and said "sorry I'm busy now" or something like that. So the GMs never did anything about it and as far as I know the attackers never got any kind of warning or any whispers.

It was only later about now 5 or 6 hours after the 7 hours that I got the visit from the 2 GMs from the picture and explained what had happened. They actually paid more attention to what I had said about the issue with the attack and that it took 7 hours to turn in the quest than the GMs that answered the petition.

So all in all, just something else that will drive me to do my attack on Stormwind and Ironforge. I've not even posted how I'm going to do it. I already know most of the tricks that players do such as players on opposite sides monitoring chat channels, alerting friends to the attack etc. So I've got something special planned that will involve all of my characters, including the level 55 death knights that I'm going to have when the expansion is released. muahahahaha! :)

[glo]

Real simple way to determine if it's ok or not. If you are in Outlands or Northrend GMs will do nothing about standing on terrain to avoid guards. The theory being that 70s with flying mounts can always remove these players and it is a PVP server. In the old world this is against the TOS.

[valkry]

Welcome to pvp...did you use grounding totems to eat the fireballs?

Now imagine 32 shamans on top of a mushroom doing the exact same thing...

[Prepared]

Welcome to pvp...did you use grounding totems to eat the fireballs?

Now imagine 32 shamans on top of a mushroom doing the exact same thing...

welcome? /rofl

My main prior to starting the shamans had over 133,000 honor kills.

Yea, 32 shaman on the mushroom would be nice at level 70. Only thing is, I probably won't have enough cash to get 32 flying mounts when I get them all to level 70. I will probably have to wait til about level 75-80 in the Wrath of the Lich King before I can have enough cash to get them all. :)

[valkry]

I only started playing on a PvP realm when I started the Shaman about 2 months ago. So sometimes what appears to be not-right sometimes is ok.
I was meant to say pvp server, instead of just pvp lol. Griefing is what bored people do (read: tasty)

[valkry]

if you keep doing quests, just from the cash rewards and vendoring quest rewards, you will have at least 1k gold each.

[Tasty]

I only started playing on a PvP realm when I started the Shaman about 2 months ago. So sometimes what appears to be not-right sometimes is ok.
I was meant to say pvp server, instead of just pvp lol. Griefing is what bored people do (read: tasty)Lolsif, I don'.. yeah I do whatever. If I want to kill you I will regardless of factors/possible outcomes. If you annoy me I will hurt you. Shame I'm not 30boxing though lol /drool. I'll put 10 toons on your body 10 at your hearth location and 10 and the spirit resser mwahahaha

[valkry]

Imo, there shouldn't be a res timer, it just gives more advantage to the camper.

[Tasty]

Mmm can't stand it when people camp people. People camping zones or specific areas/mobs is perfectly acceptable imo :)

[Tasty]

After being ordered by a GM to get off the building, I did and I
logged off. I looked at other MMORPGs and boy do they sound tempting
now. I joined a PvP server to PvP. Not to get ordered by GMs to get off
buildings, where I was not exploiting any flaw in the game, but simply
using minor tactics to kill allies.


I'd like a response from a Blizz person (green or blue), or any
intelligent reply explaining how this is an offense. In my eyes, it's
an outrage and I am about to switch over to the bigger and possibly
better MMORPGs..



So I guess I'll go gank lowbies with my 2 70s in STV to take my
frustration out and since I still have a month paid for this game and
their ain't nothing else to do until WOTLK. The realm vs. Realm PvP of
another well known game sure is sounding good now after this
incident...



Forum trolls please don't reply, only smart replies please....
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10874178551&sid=1

:O

[valkry]

The GM was wrong, the hunter was right to be annoyed. But he did QQ a fair bit lawl.

[Tasty]

If he was killing in town it could be considered zone disruption

[valkry]

is there such a thing as zone disruption? That means killing someone near a mob that needs to be killed for a quest could also be zone disruption...hell, that would mean IQD is offlimits for ganking.

People just need to suck it up and wait it out.

[Tasty]

Pssh I'm just stating that zone disruption can get you in trouble, what exactly zone disruption entails I don't know. Most of the time its been killing npcs over and over but it wouldn't take much to turn ganking players trying to turn in quests over and over into zone disruption. And no IQD is not off limits :P

[valkry]

I like killing flight masters in major cities for lols. And camping summoning stones for when a raid is trying to start, or camping the kara front gate so no one of the opposite faction can get in due to interupts.

[Prepared]

Pssh I'm just stating that zone disruption can get you in trouble, what exactly zone disruption entails I don't know. Most of the time its been killing npcs over and over but it wouldn't take much to turn ganking players trying to turn in quests over and over into zone disruption. And no IQD is not off limits :P

Hmm, this is interesting. I wonder if it is considered zone disruption if I succeed in taking out Ironforge and Stormwind on a daily basis once I am successful the first time? Of course, it won't be just me doing it. There have been many that have whispered me to ask if they can be there for the battle and of course, the more the merrier! :)

[valkry]

Pssh I'm just stating that zone disruption can get you in trouble, what exactly zone disruption entails I don't know. Most of the time its been killing npcs over and over but it wouldn't take much to turn ganking players trying to turn in quests over and over into zone disruption. And no IQD is not off limits :P

Hmm, this is interesting. I wonder if it is considered zone disruption if I succeed in taking out Ironforge and Stormwind on a daily basis once I am successful the first time? Of course, it won't be just me doing it. There have been many that have whispered me to ask if they can be there for the battle and of course, the more the merrier! :)
More power to you I suppose, but Stormwind and Ironfore are usually pretty dead, not many people will care. Plus people won't be flagged in there.

Also, I heard 1 guard spawns for every horde in the city periodically. Not sure on this one thoguh.

[Prepared]

Pssh I'm just stating that zone disruption can get you in trouble, what exactly zone disruption entails I don't know. Most of the time its been killing npcs over and over but it wouldn't take much to turn ganking players trying to turn in quests over and over into zone disruption. And no IQD is not off limits :P

Hmm, this is interesting. I wonder if it is considered zone disruption if I succeed in taking out Ironforge and Stormwind on a daily basis once I am successful the first time? Of course, it won't be just me doing it. There have been many that have whispered me to ask if they can be there for the battle and of course, the more the merrier! :)
More power to you I suppose, but Stormwind and Ironfore are usually pretty dead, not many people will care. Plus people won't be flagged in there.

Also, I heard 1 guard spawns for every horde in the city periodically. Not sure on this one thoguh.

1 guard spawns for every Horde when the Horde players are near a named NPC. You usually see some sort of text message for each spawn that is garbled because they are speaking the opposite faction. So the trick is to not have that many Horde around the named NPCs and kill them quickly with a small team, then bring in the larger groups to take out remaining guards. My goal is not to take out the boss of the cities. That requires special set up and usually needs a small group of Warlocks to summon the raid group in so it ends up being a surprise. :)

[Prepared]

The GM was wrong, the hunter was right to be annoyed. But he did QQ a fair bit lawl.

The GM was wrong for asking the guy to get down from where he was?

It used to be in Orgimmar that Alliance would go to the rooftops over the Inn and pick off players that were pvp flagged. Then they put up some stealthed rogues up there in the game and that changed the thing. It should be that players that do those sorts of things get a surprise on them from time to time. Wouldn't you agree? It seems that a lot of players that don't multibox believe it is cheating or unfair to those that don't. Would you think that it would be unfair for players that attack from points in the game that other players can't get to or can't attack?

[glo]

The GM was wrong, the hunter was right to be annoyed. But he did QQ a fair bit lawl.

The GM was wrong for asking the guy to get down from where he was?

It used to be in Orgimmar that Alliance would go to the rooftops over the Inn and pick off players that were pvp flagged. Then they put up some stealthed rogues up there in the game and that changed the thing. It should be that players that do those sorts of things get a surprise on them from time to time. Wouldn't you agree? It seems that a lot of players that don't multibox believe it is cheating or unfair to those that don't. Would you think that it would be unfair for players that attack from points in the game that other players can't get to or can't attack?

The guy was totally within the TOS, that gm didn't know what he was doing.

[Littleburst]

Yea, 32 shaman on the mushroom would be nice at level 70. Only thing is, I probably won't have enough cash to get 32 flying mounts when I get them all to level 70. I will probably have to wait til about level 75-80 in the Wrath of the Lich King before I can have enough cash to get them all. :) :pinch: ouch.

[valkry]

Yes, but that is in the old world, whereas in OL, any lvl 70 can fly up to the roof where he was, that's why the GM was wrong. It's called an easy PvP solution so it isn't illegal to shoot from roof tops in OL.

[Tasty]

Yes, but that is in the old world, whereas in OL, any lvl 70 can fly up to the roof where he was, that's why the GM was wrong. It's called an easy PvP solution so it isn't illegal to shoot from roof tops in OL. Its a grey area at best when you're near towns with guards

[valkry]

Guards are buggy most times anyway, they don't even attack all the people involved in the combat

[Prepared]

Well, my Everquest accounts will be expiring soon. In about 2 weeks, they'll all be expired. I logged in yesterday to see what it was like. After all of the patches, I found a TON of afkers in the rez area. It doesn't look like much play that game any more. But there is another expansion that will bring the level cap to level 85 on October 13th? WTF?

[Los]

Even still camping in OL is illegal when you attack the guards but they cant reach you. More annoying is that even in darkshire 70s are allowed to pick on the low lvl alliance players downstairs, but they cant be attacked by guards, bloody annoying.

[Prepared]

Even still camping in OL is illegal when you attack the guards but they cant reach you. More annoying is that even in darkshire 70s are allowed to pick on the low lvl alliance players downstairs, but they cant be attacked by guards, bloody annoying.

You gave me a good idea for a few things. Thanks! :)

OL?

[Los]

Even still camping in OL is illegal when you attack the guards but they cant reach you. More annoying is that even in darkshire 70s are allowed to pick on the low lvl alliance players downstairs, but they cant be attacked by guards, bloody annoying.

You gave me a good idea for a few things. Thanks! :)

OL?:D

I ment old land, or azeroth

[Aethon]

Yea, 32 shaman on the mushroom would be nice at level 70. Only thing is, I probably won't have enough cash to get 32 flying mounts when I get them all to level 70. I will probably have to wait til about level 75-80 in the Wrath of the Lich King before I can have enough cash to get them all. :):pinch: ouch.



So, I had a thought that would require a lot of prep work and 2 new toons, one 68, one at least 20 with a lot of soul shards.

1 Druid able to summon a warlock (RaF) and the warlock able to summon any other via RaF.

Get the druid to 68, fly up to the mushroom, summon the 'lock. Use the warlocks' RaF to summon 1 other, then use the warlock to summon (shards) all the other shamans. Tada, 32 shamans less then level 70 on a mushroom!

[Prepared]

Yea, 32 shaman on the mushroom would be nice at level 70. Only thing is, I probably won't have enough cash to get 32 flying mounts when I get them all to level 70. I will probably have to wait til about level 75-80 in the Wrath of the Lich King before I can have enough cash to get them all. :):pinch: ouch.



So, I had a thought that would require a lot of prep work and 2 new toons, one 68, one at least 20 with a lot of soul shards.

1 Druid able to summon a warlock (RaF) and the warlock able to summon any other via RaF.

Get the druid to 68, fly up to the mushroom, summon the 'lock. Use the warlocks' RaF to summon 1 other, then use the warlock to summon (shards) all the other shamans. Tada, 32 shamans less then level 70 on a mushroom!


Great idea! Thanks for the suggestion, however the only problem is that I have about a month to get my shaman all to level 70 before the expansion hits. I don't want to be left too far behind as I know there will be a mad rush for most everyone to get to max level to try to rule over the rest that play. I'm still working on my alts to level 31.9 right now. Once that's done, it's back to the shaman for the grind to 70. Besides, I probably am not going to be in Zangarmarsh for much longer.

Is there a list some where of all of the non-collecting quests in order for Outland to Shadowmoon Valley? That would awesome for multi-boxxers.

[valkry]

Don't use OL for Old Land lol, it stands for Outlands. Will just cause confusion. But yea, if anyone kills you from a rooftop in darkshire just report them, because that is an action that warrants an account warning/suspension.

As for non-collecting quests, well, in Outlands most quests come from a questing hub, of which there are usually 3 in each zone. Just go from town to town, do all the quests you can then follow the bread crumbs quest (the quest which sends you on to the next towm - so&so from townA needs your help).

But I think I did see a link not 15 mins ago, if I come acrowss it again I'll post it here.

[valkry]

Here you go, it's a thread just a little bit down the general forums page...

Here's a MultiBoxing Quest database! ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=14080')

[Zub]

however the only problem is that I have about a month to get my shaman all to level 70 before the expansion hits.

level 68s can move to Northrend iirc. x32 you should be able to to kill stuff with ease. and will get those last 2 levels real quick if the xp gains are anything like when TBC launched. :-)

[Prepared]

And I think its also clear you cannot play over 4 hours a day consistantly with that set up without nuermous achs and pains. I mean you have to turn your head to see the other monitors .... I just glance up and ot the right at the farthest, i can touch all my screens while facing the main one.

Of course you get their best spells cast all at the same time, whereas it would take me 3 seconds to do the same ...


Let's see, the aches and pains have accumulated 32 level 61 shaman mains, 32 level 28 mage and priest alts, 9 level 80 pvp characters in Wrath of the Lich King beta, 2 level 2's on Warhammer Online and even got to listen to Leona Lewis on youtube... :thumbsup:

Where are you now? Level 22 on your 25 mains? :P

[Los]

Don't use OL for Old Land lol, it stands for Outlands. Will just cause confusion. But yea, if anyone kills you from a rooftop in darkshire just report them, because that is an action that warrants an account warning/suspension.
Actually I thought it was ok, unless if they do agro / attack the guards in darkshire, which is a pita tbh.

[Prepared]

You know whats really sad?

5x Mage team
Invisibility + Blink (maybe even just blink)

Arcane Explosion Spam = 30+ dead Shaman

By the second Arcane Explosion, all of those mages would be dead and the shaman would still remain with about 3/4 health depending on the gear when it happened. Why? = Lightning Shield... ...

[valkry]

Not really sorry. The first mage would maybe die, but lightning shield does not proc off every attack, it has an internal cd, so the mages would be able to get off 3-4 more arc explosions before the second proc. And they would only die one at a time, depending on who has the first arc explosion.

[Prepared]

Not really sorry. The first mage would maybe die, but lightning shield does not proc off every attack, it has an internal cd, so the mages would be able to get off 3-4 more arc explosions before the second proc. And they would only die one at a time, depending on who has the first arc explosion.

We'll see when the time comes... Maybe it's an IF the time comes because I'm not aware of any multiboxxers on Aegwynn on the Alliance side. Besides, this will probably happen during the middle of a huge battle where many things are going on. I have a mage with me also and usually when another mage shows up on the opposite side, I immediately silence it and proceed with killing the healer if there is one and if not, the mage...
So if 5 mages show up, one of them gets a silence. Then if it's as you say, one of the others will die and I'll be doing quick heals and recasts of Lightning Shield :)

[Xzin]

How do you plan on dealing with the infinite guard spawn? I have raided IF before and while I could kill the guards, they respawn and swarm you. Plus the players... tend to overrun you too. You have no time to regen or get mana... they just wear you down. Now 30+ players might be a different story but I would still want to consider the guard swarm and what you could do about it.

[zanthor]

How do you plan on dealing with the infinite guard spawn? I have raided IF before and while I could kill the guards, they respawn and swarm you. Plus the players... tend to overrun you too. You have no time to regen or get mana... they just wear you down. Now 30+ players might be a different story but I would still want to consider the guard swarm and what you could do about it.I've raided and held both Ironforge and Stormwind for greater than 15 minutes each. The guard swarm is very easily dealt with and only becomes an issue if you stay around the specific npc's that trigger the swarm...

In our case, we went into the auction house and held it for significant time.

We were able to stay in the ironforge auctionhouse for a fair amount of time, but we held Stormwind long enough that I'm pretty sure we could have stuck around indefinitely if we hadn't gotten a bit bored and started doing stupid shit...

http://www.botbh.com/zimg/BotBH_vs_Ironforge_TBC.wmv

The video for Stormwind I never posted because we held it much longer than Ironforge and it was somewhere in the 500mb range vs the 250mb of this one.

[Prepared]

Alts have dinged to level 31.9, used recruit-a-friend bonus levels on 16 of the original accounts and got them to 60.9 and then walked them over to the Dark Portal because I don't have the gold to buy the mounts yet and by the time they got to Thrallmar, all of them had dinged to level 61!...

So as it stands now, I have 9 level 70's all different classes, 32 level 61 shamans and 16 level 61 mages and priests. When the Wrath of the Lich king is released, I'll have 36 level 55 Death Knights.

Then the fun in leveling up the shamans to 80...

[valkry]

36 Dks...lawl. hey, you could keep doing that scorpian-like (from mortal combat) spell that draws the player to you indefinately. Stop someone from doing an escort without killing them. Hmm, I also wonder if that move can be used to draw people out from near neutral town guards without guard aggro...

[Xzin]

I GOT IT. This I would pay to see. Have A follow B follow C follow D etc. 36 times. Spread them 30 yards away by walking around in a long chain. Chain the scorpion pull on each one (just mash the keys so once they are in range, it triggers). Instantly, suck the player 360 yards in a single direction. Think Involuntary Zipline! If it does damage, would 36 be enough to kill the player? 360 yards is pretty darn far.... it would be 720 yards if the getoverhere move is 20 yards and not 10. Follow distance is what? 30?

[Saithe]

I GOT IT. This I would pay to see. Have A follow B follow C follow D etc. 36 times. Spread them 30 yards away by walking around in a long chain. Chain the scorpion pull on each one (just mash the keys so once they are in range, it triggers). Instantly, suck the player 360 yards in a single direction. Think Involuntary Zipline! If it does damage, would 36 be enough to kill the player? 360 yards is pretty darn far.... it would be 720 yards if the getoverhere move is 20 yards and not 10. Follow distance is what? 30?The possibilities are too awesome to fully comprehend. You could have 2 lines of DKs and bounce him back in forth (Red Rover style), or I would personally put them in a giant circle and just have some poor sap get stuck in a never ending circle of Death...Knights.
It would take some pretty insane micro management, but you could probably drag someone as far as you wanted, provided you could get the first DKs in the chain to mount up and run to the back of the line.
The move has a 30 yard range by the way, (Death Grip ('http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=49576')) which makes for 1080 potential yards. With a 35 second cooldown, you could easily bounce anything around indefinitely. With 36 DKs, I see tons of uses in both PvE and PvP. It doesn't deal any damage though (Unless there's some kind of talent/inscription for it). Though you could probably combine it with some kind of instant cast as you were pulling the victim towards you and achieve the same effect.

[Zub]

lol this is excellent.
35s cooldown, and 36 deathnights, You can go on forever. This is too perfect to be true.

[glo]

I GOT IT. This I would pay to see. Have A follow B follow C follow D etc. 36 times. Spread them 30 yards away by walking around in a long chain. Chain the scorpion pull on each one (just mash the keys so once they are in range, it triggers). Instantly, suck the player 360 yards in a single direction. Think Involuntary Zipline! If it does damage, would 36 be enough to kill the player? 360 yards is pretty darn far.... it would be 720 yards if the getoverhere move is 20 yards and not 10. Follow distance is what? 30?The possibilities are too awesome to fully comprehend. You could have 2 lines of DKs and bounce him back in forth (Red Rover style), or I would personally put them in a giant circle and just have some poor sap get stuck in a never ending circle of Death...Knights.
It would take some pretty insane micro management, but you could probably drag someone as far as you wanted, provided you could get the first DKs in the chain to mount up and run to the back of the line.
The move has a 30 yard range by the way, (Death Grip ('http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=49576')) which makes for 1080 potential yards. With a 35 second cooldown, you could easily bounce anything around indefinitely. With 36 DKs, I see tons of uses in both PvE and PvP. It doesn't deal any damage though (Unless there's some kind of talent/inscription for it). Though you could probably combine it with some kind of instant cast as you were pulling the victim towards you and achieve the same effect.

It wouldn't take any micro management and you don't even need this fancy conga line. Setup a cast sequence and run around spamming it every few seconds you can drag the character/mob anywhere you like ;)

[glo]

I haven't leveled a DK yet, do they have a stun or root? If so even 5 boxing you could probably drag a single target around for quite awhile.

[Prepared]

The latest news for me is that I'm working on leveling up my 32 warlocks to level 17. Once that happens, I will use the remaining 15 levels available from my 16 priests and mages that are level 32 on my recruit accounts to put 16 of the warlocks to level 32. Then I will have 32 level 32 warlocks, priests and mages to assist with planned attacks on the Alliance on Aegwynn. Should be ready with those granted levels tonight or tomorrow.

My shaman are still level 61. Do I raid? Technically, I do raid sometimes, but just not instances. I sometimes raid the Alliance with the shamans and level 70's. But that's usually with others when they are attacking the Alliance cities. For the most part, I'm working on leveling up all of my characters.

[Xzin]

If you didn't know already, you made the front page of Yahoo.com

http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/gamer-juggles-over-30-warcraft-characters/1255554

[Prepared]

If you didn't know already, you made the front page of Yahoo.com

http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/gamer-juggles-over-30-warcraft-characters/1255554

Yes, I saw the posts here about it and made my avatar the same page. :)

I got a private message from someone in Southern California about an interview. I can't find the message any more. Not sure if it's a glitch or that it was removed for being against some rule or something. Any way, I'm in Northern California in the San Francisco Bay Area. Probably about an hour from Sam in San Jose. Not sure that I'd want a journalist to come into my house with a camera man and video tape me playing the game though. It would be cool, but I'd have to clean up some of the area first. ^^

Yesterday, there were so many tells to me when I logged in as Prepared, it was unreal. Some hate, some love, some just gratz, etc.

Anyway, got a dentist appointment today. Then it's back to work on the characters...

Oh by the way, for those that don't know or wondering, I'm not fat or even over weight. I get a lot of that in the game about how much time I play, etc. I do probably play more than the average WoW player or even WoW boxer. But I also run occasionally. I have done a few marathons/half marathons and an Ironman Triathlon so I'm in fairly good shape.

[Xzin]

Server blip meant we lost about 8 hours of posts / PMs. Check with Ellay but I don't think those are going to be recoverable.

[Prepared]

That's pretty sexy, nice job whoever did that :)


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You know, it just dawned on me. I forgot to answer the original question on this thread. It's me Ellay, I'm the 36 boxer. :D

Prepared of the Aegwynn realm. And after redoing all of my talents and fixing some of the macros after the patch along with getting my 2nd alts to level 17, I'm continuing with the Shamans onward to level 70! Should make it some where around the time the Wrath of the Lich King is released.

[Littleburst]

You know, it just dawned on me. I forgot to answer the original question on this thread. It's me Ellay, I'm the 36 boxer. :D

Prepared of the Aegwynn realm. And after redoing all of my talents and fixing some of the macros after the patch along with getting my 2nd alts to level 17, I'm continuing with the Shamans onward to level 70! Should make it some where around the time the Wrath of the Lich King is released.Oh hey!

Welcome on Dual-boxing.com!

:P

[Zub]

You know, it just dawned on me. I forgot to answer the original question on this thread. It's me Ellay, I'm the 36 boxer. :D

Prepared of the Aegwynn realm. And after redoing all of my talents and fixing some of the macros after the patch along with getting my 2nd alts to level 17, I'm continuing with the Shamans onward to level 70! Should make it some where around the time the Wrath of the Lich King is released.

I reckon you'll have plenty of time, the new xp to level reduction is awesome.
i'm level 63 and just about to finish hellfire. levels 62-63 was very very quick.

[Prepared]

I'm running 40 accounts now. Split out my 70 Warlock, 70 Paladin, and 2 61 mages to other accounts to make it an even 40. Alterac Valley here I come! Once I get them all to 70 :)

[Xzin]

Good luck getting ALL of them in the queue :(

I am not going to say it is impossible - you might be able to convince the server to open an entirely new AV for you if you join all 40 at once and coordinate it with addons such that you can manage the queue.... I know they added join as group again to AV but still - I am not sure what your chances are of getting them all into the queue.

If you do however, just run straight to the end boss and kill him. Five minute AV's.

[Feardis]

if blizz bans multiboxing
i dare say its going to be from all the QQ they recieve about prepared...
:P

[Prepared]

if blizz bans multiboxing
i dare say its going to be from all the QQ they recieve about prepared...
:P

I don't think they will ban it because of me. For the folllowing reasons...

1. They get a lot of money from players that multibox.
2. They get a lot exposure from all of the publicity on the Internet about me which equates to more money also. With the release of the Wrath of the Lich King expansion next month, the publicity they are getting from me will net them much more money.
3. Players can cry all the way about multiboxing, if in the end it is fair and Blizzard makes money on it, they will continue to allow it. True while some things change in the game because players cry about it, this is something that will mean a lot less money for them so it is different. How many players multibox? Take a guess... :)

[Zub]

How many players multibox? Take a guess...
a crapton more than 3 months ago, that's for sure.

[Leon]

Add one more to that number as of this afternoon

[Tasty]

Add one more to that number as of this afternoon

Normally that would put us up to a crapton + 1 BUT we were actually sitting right under the bar (see: Diagram a) so you've managed to boost us into the megahuge-crapton area :)

Diagram a.

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Over 9000
------------------------------
A megahuge-crapton <-- to here
------------------------------
A crapton <-- went from here
------------------------------
Lots
-------------------------------
A few
--------------------------------

[Zub]

Add one more to that number as of this afternoon

Normally that would put us up to a crapton + 1 BUT we were actually sitting right under the bar (see: Diagram a) so you've managed to boost us into the megahuge-crapton area :)

Diagram a.

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Over 9000
------------------------------
A megahuge-crapton <-- to here
------------------------------
A crapton <-- went from here
------------------------------
Lots
-------------------------------
A few
--------------------------------
You forgot "Heaps, Mate" between "Lots" and "Crapton"

[Zub]

On the note of new boxers, i'll add that some actually stop boxing as well, for example me.
I've cancelled my extra accounts and now only play my main account with my wife. The toons in my sig are the ones i keep on the main account, all the others (team of shams, druids, pallies all 60/70) will stay cancelled until i decide to box again.

[Tidomann]

the 3.0.2 patch must suck if your server is recieving queue times with all the returning players :P

speaking of queue times.. You should definately post your first Battleground wait time once you achieve a mass queue :P

all the best of luck

[valkry]

<1 min...always :)

[Prepared]

<1 min...always :)

Aegwynn has less than 1 minute queue times for Alterac Valley every time on Horde side. It's usually about 2 or 3 seconds after joining the queue.

Can't wait to get my shamans in there. But it will take awhile to build their PvP equipment up. It's taking me awhile to get past level 61 lol. Still need gold plus I'm splitting out some more of the mages and level 70's to newly created accounts using recruit-a-friend of course. As of today, I'm at 44 accounts in total. Will send pics when I get it all organized. It's taking a few days for the transfer requests to go through.

[Prepared]

Hmm,.... .... .... Samdeathknight paladin at level 20! ('http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ner%27zhul&n=Samdeathwkzz')

Sam, buddy, not leveling while you're on recruit-a-friend and you're going to fall so far behind when you lose 3 times experience that it will take you years to get any kind of ability to stop a level 70 or soon a level 80 from wiping you out. Right now a single level 70 player can wipe out your entire force! If I were you, I'd get to leveling instead of boasting.... Do what you want, just a suggestion mate!

[Prepared]

For those that don't know, I play on the Aegwynn realm. :)

[Jheusse]

Hmm, also missing "Metric F***ton" on that scale, either above or below Over 9000.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well what you say is so true, nonetheless, Im not wasting time on slow computers with lag and lost autofollow, addons that don't work, zombies to mess things up and server lag/downtime, patch fixes. This is not an optimal time to get anything done.

First I will finish my new computers (about 5 days), then redo the add ons (about 2 days) (moving to macaroon and jamba), then start playing hard core.

So what if I miss the RAF, I might just buy another 26 accounts... who knows?

[Suvega]

Well what you say is so true, nonetheless, Im not wasting time on slow computers with lag and lost autofollow, addons that don't work, zombies to mess things up and server lag/downtime, patch fixes. This is not an optimal time to get anything done.

First I will finish my new computers (about 5 days), then redo the add ons (about 2 days) (moving to macaroon and jamba), then start playing hard core.

So what if I miss the RAF, I might just buy another 26 accounts... who knows?

Wow I'm surprised no one has done this yet (or I missed it).

SAM: YOU ARE NOT PREPARED.

[TeK23]

Actually Prepared the que times are fast for SOLO queing.

With blizzards new system that trys and matches up Premades with Premades. It takes alot longer to que with a group. So when I do my 5 Box group I normally have to wait 5-10mins before I que up and the crappy thing is sometimes because of me. Our group faces 20+ server premades and we lose alot! :(

So if you que up your wait till be a long wait because blizzard wants to que you up vs other premades and you will get owned BTW.

With the DPS of the new builds and everyone Able to AOE, they will just AOE you to death. Right now everyone has forgotten how to PvP on our battle group and just AoE spams and it's always a turtle now. Still fun to sit in the back and just spam CL/LB but once they notice you bunched up. You'll get a group of Bubble Palis charging in and Divine Storm you with Mages blinking and DB/AE game over.

And you are also on one of the hardest Battlegroups with some of the best players in wow, atleast for Arenas.

[Prepared]

Well what you say is so true, nonetheless, Im not wasting time on slow computers with lag and lost autofollow, addons that don't work, zombies to mess things up and server lag/downtime, patch fixes. This is not an optimal time to get anything done.

First I will finish my new computers (about 5 days), then redo the add ons (about 2 days) (moving to macaroon and jamba), then start playing hard core.

So what if I miss the RAF, I might just buy another 26 accounts... who knows?

2 days to do add ons? wow, guess Suvega is right! You are NOT PREPARED! :) It takes me about 5 seconds to do add ons for a new computer. Just copy the add ons into the Interfaces\addons folder and it's done.

You should move your characters to the Aegwynn realm before you add more so we can work together. Better yet, if you buy another 26 accounts and do RAF again, you should create the new characters all on Aegwynn. Just think about it, the two most boxxed characters on the same realm!! We'd CLEAN HOUSE!!

[Los]

and if all else fails, you could just hold a server hostage by queing !

;)

[Sam DeathWalker]

Just copy the add ons into the Interfaces\addons folder and it's done. What about the wft/account/accountname/SavedVaribles folder?

What about files like arkinventory.lua, which if you transfer to another account don't work:

ARKINVDB = {
["profileKeys"] = {
["Samdeathwkaa - Ner'zhul"] = "Default",
},
["global"] = {
["option"] = {
["version"] = 3.0109,
},
["player"] = {
["version"] = 3.0109,
["realm"] = {
["Ner'zhul"] = {
["faction"] = {
["Horde"] = {
["name"] = {
["Samdeathwkaa"] = {
["info"] = {
["skills"] = {
"COOKING", -- [1]
},
["money"] = 12320,
["gender"] = 2,
["class_local"] = "Shaman",
["class"] = "SHAMAN",
["player_id"] = "Ner'zhul!Horde!Samdeathwkaa",
["race"] = "Tauren",
["name"] = "Samdeathwkaa",
["faction"] = "Horde",
["race_local"] = "Tauren",
["level"] = 19,
["faction_local"] = "Horde",
["realm"] = "Ner'zhul",
},

[valkry]

Which battlegroup is that server on Prepared?

But yea, queuing up as a party tries to match you against premades, but there is an addon called AV preform enabler which shows a box that auto joins everyone (singular join) and displays what number BG they get pop. If all the same it will auto join everyone. If not, everyone closes the window and re-opens it to start again.

I had a 2 hour wsg queue the other night when we joined as a 10 man raid without that addon. I was playing AV and had completely forgotten about it til it popped.

[Xzin]

So what if I miss the RAF, I might just buy another 26 accounts... who knows?

/facepalm

This sums up Sam vs Prepared.

90 days Sam.. at least get them to 60 in 90 RL days.

[Prepared]

Just copy the add ons into the Interfaces\addons folder and it's done. What about the wft/account/accountname/SavedVaribles folder?

What about files like arkinventory.lua, which if you transfer to another account don't work:

ARKINVDB = {
["profileKeys"] = {
["Samdeathwkaa - Ner'zhul"] = "Default",
},
["global"] = {
["option"] = {
["version"] = 3.0109,
},
["player"] = {
["version"] = 3.0109,
["realm"] = {
["Ner'zhul"] = {
["faction"] = {
["Horde"] = {
["name"] = {
["Samdeathwkaa"] = {
["info"] = {
["skills"] = {
"COOKING", -- [1]
},
["money"] = 12320,
["gender"] = 2,
["class_local"] = "Shaman",
["class"] = "SHAMAN",
["player_id"] = "Ner'zhul!Horde!Samdeathwkaa",
["race"] = "Tauren",
["name"] = "Samdeathwkaa",
["faction"] = "Horde",
["race_local"] = "Tauren",
["level"] = 19,
["faction_local"] = "Horde",
["realm"] = "Ner'zhul",
},

Why do you have to copy that individual file just for the addon to work right? What I do is have a .cmd script update all of my computers with all of my characters and accounts. It first copies all my account data from all computers to a single computer, then it updates all of the accounts with all of the characters to all computers. I've been doing that since way back in Everquest days also. The only difference with WoW is that it has a different directory structure but the concept still remains the same. With the way I do it, I can log in to any computer with any account and have all of the same settings for the game. As I make changes to macros, etc, this script is run to update all of the other computers with all of the account settings and character settings.

Here's an example with made up account names and computers:

@echo off
echo This batch file will copy the account files from all computers
echo and then back out to update them all from this computer
echo Press CTRL-c to STOP or

REM goto UPDATEONLY

echo About to copy from NUKE, account ACCOUNT1, ACCOUNT2, ACCOUNT3, ACCOUNT4 to this computer
pause
xcopy "\\NUKE\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\ACCOUNT1" "C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\ACCOUNT1" /s /y
xcopy "\\NUKE\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\ACCOUNT2" "C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\ACCOUNT2" /s /y
xcopy "\\NUKE\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\ACCOUNT3" "C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\ACCOUNT3" /s /y
xcopy "\\NUKE\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\ACCOUNT4" "C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\ACCOUNT4" /s /y

echo About to copy from DISTANCE, account ACCOUNT5, ACCOUNT6, ACCOUNT7 to this computer
pause
xcopy "\\DISTANCE\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\ACCOUNT5" "C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\ACCOUNT5" /s /y
xcopy "\\DISTANCE\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\ACCOUNT6" "C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\ACCOUNT6" /s /y
xcopy "\\DISTANCE\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\ACCOUNT7" "C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\ACCOUNT7" /s /y

:UPDATEONLY
echo About to update from this computer to the DAMAGE computer
pause
xcopy "C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account" "\\DAMAGE\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account" /s /y
echo About to update from this computer to the ASSIST computer
pause
xcopy "C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account" "\\ASSIST\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account" /s /y
echo About to update from this computer to the MAIN computer
pause
xcopy "C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account" "\\MAIN\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account" /s /y
echo About to update from this computer to the SUPER computer
pause
xcopy "C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account" "\\SUPER\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account" /s /y

[Prepared]

Which battlegroup is that server on Prepared?

But yea, queuing up as a party tries to match you against premades, but there is an addon called AV preform enabler which shows a box that auto joins everyone (singular join) and displays what number BG they get pop. If all the same it will auto join everyone. If not, everyone closes the window and re-opens it to start again.

I had a 2 hour wsg queue the other night when we joined as a 10 man raid without that addon. I was playing AV and had completely forgotten about it til it popped.

Vengeance battlegroup. And as I said, I have no queue wait that goes past 30 seconds when I have 2 groups join at the same time. Sometimes I can't even join the 2nd group before the first group has already got the dialog box to join the battleground so I do it really quickly so I just hit OK on both screens for both groups to join at the same time. This is with Alterac Valley only I'm referring to and I'm talking about a full group, not individual characters. I can't remember the last time I joined a battleground with one character, it must be YEARS! :)

[Sam DeathWalker]

Macros are not really a problem as you can simply change the account name and those will work np.

I can understand you can log into any account from any computer. Thats not what I am trying to do.

I want to set up my UI and all add ons on one computer on one account then clone them to all the other computers and accounts. You are not cloneing anything, you are just moving the same account to all your computers. When someone simply changes the name on the account folder from "toon1" to "toon2" some adds ons have data saved under "toon1" and those profiles or information do not work when you simply move all the files to the "toon2" folder.

Lets ask this. Lets say you want to move the titan bar from the top of your screen to the bottom of your screen what do you do? Assume its on the top on all 44 accounts and you decide that you want it on the bottem on all 44 accounts.

[Prepared]

Macros are not really a problem as you can simply change the account name and those will work np.

I can understand you can log into any account from any computer. Thats not what I am trying to do.

I want to set up my UI and all add ons on one computer on one account then clone them to all the other computers and accounts. You are not cloneing anything, you are just moving the same account to all your computers. When someone simply changes the name on the account folder from "toon1" to "toon2" some adds ons have data saved under "toon1" and those profiles or information do not work when you simply move all the files to the "toon2" folder.

Lets ask this. Lets say you want to move the titan bar from the top of your screen to the bottom of your screen what do you do? Assume its on the top on all 44 accounts and you decide that you want it on the bottem on all 44 accounts.


You're using completely different AddOns than I use. Why waste memory on AddOns that change the default UI? Sorry for those that use AddOns religiously, but I've never bothered with any of them other than the basic ones that are really necessary such as seeing the class of the target you have and locations. None of my AddOns require any saved data in SavedVariables. If they did, I would just copy that folder to the new accounts. It doesn't take 2 days to copy a folder. :)

The only AddOns I use are: ClassIcons, CT_MapMod and SSPVP3. Anything else in my opinion is a waste of memory.

ClassIcons is the very best AddOn ever created! It's so light weight and gives the really good information to a PvPer, the class of the target. That should actually be an option in the game.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Ya I make my 6 groups with 2 macros, press one one time and the other twice and all are in groups, with FFA.

Never got the accept rez thing to work though I have it don't know why. But I think Jamba will handle a lot of that. As well as acceptings quests for everyone.

I ALSO have macros that let me disband the member of a group I need to and invite another guy so that I can chain summon all my guys from one place to another ...

Ya its a stupid amount for quests, but not my idea. They are just on my main which has his own computer so its not dragging me down, and I don't have to go out of the game to Allka or wowhead ....

[Sam DeathWalker]

Sorry for those that use AddOns religiously, but I've never bothered with any of them other than the basic ones that are really necessary such as seeing the class of the target you have and locations. None of my AddOns require any saved data in SavedVariables. If they did, I would just copy that folder to the new accounts. It doesn't take 2 days to copy a folder. :)

The only AddOns I use are: ClassIcons, CT_MapMod and SSPVP3. Anything else in my opinion is a waste of memory.
Well that kinda answers it then, if none of your addons require any saved data in SavedVariables then you don't need to do anything more then what you are doing, just copy the accounts from one computer to all your other computers .... Like I said for SOME add ons, as you see from the above .lua arkinventory file, you cant just copy from one account to another.

I use or will use: maccaroon, jamba, pitbull, onebag3, questhelper, titan, hitsmode, tourguide, questannouncer, questgrue, tomtom, lightheadded, mappy, informant, enhtooltip.

Surely there is something to be said for saving memory, and simplicity is wise also but there is a reason add ons are so popular.....

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/class-icons-2-0.aspx

Hasn't been updated for 2 years ... I see why you didn't have to waste time redoing add ons after the patch... well I guess it works for what its suppose to do.

[Clone]

Sorry for those that use AddOns religiously, but I've never bothered with any of them other than the basic ones that are really necessary such as seeing the class of the target you have and locations. None of my AddOns require any saved data in SavedVariables. If they did, I would just copy that folder to the new accounts. It doesn't take 2 days to copy a folder. :)

The only AddOns I use are: ClassIcons, CT_MapMod and SSPVP3. Anything else in my opinion is a waste of memory.
Well that kinda answers it then, if none of your addons require any saved data in SavedVariables then you don't need to do anything more then what you are doing, just copy the accounts from one computer to all your other computers .... Like I said for SOME add ons, as you see from the above .lua arkinventory file, you cant just copy from one account to another.

I use or will use: maccaroon, jamba, pitbull, onebag3, questhelper, titan, hitsmode, tourguide, questannouncer, questgrue, tomtom, lightheadded, mappy, informant, enhtooltip.

Surely there is something to be said for saving memory, and simplicity is wise also but there is a reason add ons are so popular.....

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/class-icons-2-0.aspx

Hasn't been updated for 2 years ... I see why you didn't have to waste time redoing add ons after the patch... well I guess it works for what its suppose to do.


No wonder you have problem with lag if ur using all those addons. I guess this is the problem u will face though if you have never leveled a character to 70 solo and have no idea about quests and stuff.

[Prepared]

Sorry for those that use AddOns religiously, but I've never bothered with any of them other than the basic ones that are really necessary such as seeing the class of the target you have and locations. None of my AddOns require any saved data in SavedVariables. If they did, I would just copy that folder to the new accounts. It doesn't take 2 days to copy a folder. :)

The only AddOns I use are: ClassIcons, CT_MapMod and SSPVP3. Anything else in my opinion is a waste of memory.
Well that kinda answers it then, if none of your addons require any saved data in SavedVariables then you don't need to do anything more then what you are doing, just copy the accounts from one computer to all your other computers .... Like I said for SOME add ons, as you see from the above .lua arkinventory file, you cant just copy from one account to another.

I use or will use: maccaroon, jamba, pitbull, onebag3, questhelper, titan, hitsmode, tourguide, questannouncer, questgrue, tomtom, lightheadded, mappy, informant, enhtooltip.

Surely there is something to be said for saving memory, and simplicity is wise also but there is a reason add ons are so popular.....

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/class-icons-2-0.aspx

Hasn't been updated for 2 years ... I see why you didn't have to waste time redoing add ons after the patch... well I guess it works for what its suppose to do.

You're going to use all of those addons? WTF??? That's the most I've ever heard of someone using, let-alone a multiboxer.

The only AddOn I had to update for the patch 3.02 was SSPVP3 from SSPVP2. It's for battleground information such as timers and other things that are handy.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well everyone says I don't know how to quest (true) so I follow this guide: Horde Multi Boxing RAF 1-60 Leveling Guide ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=14471')

Add ons you should have for this guide to work.
#1 TourGuide down load it here -TourGuide ('http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7674') and learn about it here TourGuide ('http://www.tekkub.net/addons/TourGuide')
#2 LightHeaded down load it here LightHeaded ('http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7017-LightHeaded.html')
#3 TomTom down load it here TomTom ('http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7032-TomTom.html')

Also please get theses as well.
#4 QuestGuru ('http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=mod&m=4855')(makes the quest log so much better)
#5 QuestHelper ('http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/quest-helper.aspx') (puts quest info on you map)
#6 QuestAnnouncer (Lets me see that all my slaves didn’t skip anything by reporting in party chat their quest progression.)

Thats 6 add ons right there just for questing.

You need a unit frame: Pitbull

You need a boxer program (tells you when auto follow fails and sells junk, helps with quests etc.): Jamba

You need inventory control (sort out stuff in bags): BagOne3

You need combat information (overkill and stuffs): Hit Mode

You need Macro Control and Binding to Action Bars: Maccaroon

And you need something to tell you about yur gear: Informat and Enhtooltip

Plus Titan Bars for basic Infos and Mappy to make yur minimap make look decent.

I dont really see where I am running anything wastfull, I just run the quest stuff on my main computer (only one character) so no lag from the quest stuffs.

And this is without bossmob and pvp and AH addons plus I really didnt see what cartographer or atlas brings to the table so I stopped those.

[valkry]

Sorry for those that use AddOns religiously, but I've never bothered with any of them other than the basic ones that are really necessary such as seeing the class of the target you have and locations. None of my AddOns require any saved data in SavedVariables. If they did, I would just copy that folder to the new accounts. It doesn't take 2 days to copy a folder. :)

The only AddOns I use are: ClassIcons, CT_MapMod and SSPVP3. Anything else in my opinion is a waste of memory.
Well that kinda answers it then, if none of your addons require any saved data in SavedVariables then you don't need to do anything more then what you are doing, just copy the accounts from one computer to all your other computers .... Like I said for SOME add ons, as you see from the above .lua arkinventory file, you cant just copy from one account to another.

I use or will use: maccaroon, jamba, pitbull, onebag3, questhelper, titan, hitsmode, tourguide, questannouncer, questgrue, tomtom, lightheadded, mappy, informant, enhtooltip.

Surely there is something to be said for saving memory, and simplicity is wise also but there is a reason add ons are so popular.....

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/class-icons-2-0.aspx

Hasn't been updated for 2 years ... I see why you didn't have to waste time redoing add ons after the patch... well I guess it works for what its suppose to do.

You're going to use all of those addons? WTF??? That's the most I've ever heard of someone using, let-alone a multiboxer.

The only AddOn I had to update for the patch 3.02 was SSPVP3 from SSPVP2. It's for battleground information such as timers and other things that are handy.
It's what we addon lovers call...a small number of essential addons lol. You should troll some guild forums and see the list of the addon fan in each guild (there is always one).

Last guild I was in a guy had 160 addons. I used to run 80. You might struggle to work out how the hell anyone can use this many addons...but you'd be surprised just how quickly then can add up :P

[Prepared]

Well everyone says I don't know how to quest (true) so I follow this guide: Horde Multi Boxing RAF 1-60 Leveling Guide ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=14471')

Add ons you should have for this guide to work.
#1 TourGuide down load it here -TourGuide ('http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7674') and learn about it here TourGuide ('http://www.tekkub.net/addons/TourGuide')
#2 LightHeaded down load it here LightHeaded ('http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7017-LightHeaded.html')
#3 TomTom down load it here TomTom ('http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7032-TomTom.html')

Also please get theses as well.
#4 QuestGuru ('http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=mod&m=4855')(makes the quest log so much better)
#5 QuestHelper ('http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/quest-helper.aspx') (puts quest info on you map)
#6 QuestAnnouncer (Lets me see that all my slaves didn’t skip anything by reporting in party chat their quest progression.)

Thats 6 add ons right there just for questing.

You need a unit frame: Pitbull

You need a boxer program (tells you when auto follow fails and sells junk, helps with quests etc.): Jamba

You need inventory control (sort out stuff in bags): BagOne3

You need combat information (overkill and stuffs): Hit Mode

You need Macro Control and Binding to Action Bars: Maccaroon

And you need something to tell you about yur gear: Informat and Enhtooltip

Plus Titan Bars for basic Infos and Mappy to make yur minimap make look decent.

I dont really see where I am running anything wastfull, I just run the quest stuff on my main computer (only one character) so no lag from the quest stuffs.

And this is without bossmob and pvp and AH addons plus I really didnt see what cartographer or atlas brings to the table so I stopped those.

wow man, that's a lot of AddOns just for doing quests. Why not just get quests and do a look up at wow.allakhazam.com? In most cases, all you need to know is the location of where the target is for the quest. It's been at wow.allkahazam.com for every quest I've ever done. Just need to scroll down a bit sometimes to find it. For making sure all party members have sharable quests, you can use this macro that someone posted here awhile ago:

/script AcceptGroup();
/script AcceptQuest();
/script AcceptTrade();
/script RetrieveCorpse();

I put that in my invite macro so my group leaders have for example:
/script AcceptGroup();
/script AcceptQuest();
/script AcceptTrade();
/script RetrieveCorpse();
/inv Preparar
/inv Prepareq
/inv Brutaln
/inv Brutaig
/ffa

That way I can press one key a few times and all my groups are formed with the Free For All setting on loot. Saves a BUNCH of time with all of the groups. With this macro, all of the characters can rez at the same time if they get wiped out (not happened in a LONG time now ), all characters can accept quests that are shared and they can all accept group invites.

[Prepared]

DING! Level 63!

[Xzin]

You're going to use all of those addons? WTF??? That's the most I've ever heard of someone using, let-alone a multiboxer.

Not exactly in Sam's defense but I use over 130 addons. I find that despite the complexity, it really helps with PvP.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Ya well sure we wouldn't want to defend Sam ....