Holy Trinity of Pally/4 Shaman - All Content?

[Aradar]

I've seen it said many times on these forums that this combination can and has completed all 5 man content including heroics; however, unlike some of the 5 shaman teams on here, I have not seen anyone step forward and say they have personally done it, only that it has been done. I apologize if this has been covered, was just looking for some clarification. Additionally, I'm only referring to this makeup being controlled by one person (no offense to Fur and his brother :P).

I myself have quite a ways to go having basically quit doing instances once I hit 70 as I began working on mounts/professions, i.e. money. However, I have accumulated 3 Totem of the Voids and have downed 3 Heroic Bosses recently which has gotten me excited again (the daily grind is wearing on me) and wondering what my full potential is.

Thanks.

[moji]

yes

pally and 4 shaman have done everything, several times. Some fights that require a bit of movement or positioning, can be tough, but every boss has been and can be downed by this group makeup.

5 shaman pure DPS teams probably have done the same as well.

[Duane]

The sticky at the top of the page has several mentions of clearing heroics:

PvE Progress ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=1689')

[Vyndree]

every boss has been and can be downed by this group makeup.

I wouldn't say EVERY boss...

...for example, the eyeball in Crypts gave me trouble in NORMAL mode -- and the more gear I get, the harder Blackheart the Inciter gets.

[Souca]

I've been taking stabs at a couple instances, but I've generally been less than successful until I overlevel the run. I think the main thing is that I don't have a shammy specced resto. I keep thinking about doing this, but I'm afraid it will slow down my normal questing as I rarely even need to heal during quests. For those of you that did the Outland instances, did you have a shammy specced resto? Did you wait until 70 and then start instances with better gear and a dedicated healer? I know I'm kind of hijacking the thread some, but since we have established the Pally/Shammy synergy works, I'm curious how it worked for some others.

- Souca -

P.S. I hate Hellfire instances.

[Vyndree]

For those of you that did the Outland instances, did you have a shammy specced resto?

I didn't until 70 -- this was my leveling pattern (so you can see what instances I hit):

1-10 Lowbie quests.
10-25 I used a 70 druid to run me thru instances on my 4 shammies to 25. (VC/Stocks)
25-40 I instanced with the Warrior (BFD/RFK ('http://vboxing.net/v/index.php?q=node/59')/SM ('http://vboxing.net/v/index.php?q=node/60')) and did a few quests when I was bored
40-45 I did SM/RFD ('http://vboxing.net/v/index.php?q=node/61') with the paladin and hand-leveled each shaman when I was bored for about 1 level. (Also ZF ('http://vboxing.net/v/index.php?q=node/62'))
<--- 2.3 Patch. Long break happened here where I didn't play my shammies.
45+ Quests.
60-67 Quests. I do each instance only once or twice in order to complete the instance quests. I did all the quests in Hellfire, Zangarmarsh, Terokkar, Nagrand.
67-68? Kurenai Rep grind. Killed ogres in Nagrand. Fun stuff. :roll:
68-69 Caverns of Time: Durnholde ('http://vboxing.net/v/index.php?q=node/66')
69-70 (almost there) Sethekk Halls
http://vboxing.net/v/index.php?q=node/48


I also hit a few extra instances but didn't grind them for XP... Underbog ('http://vboxing.net/v/index.php?q=node/64'), BF ('http://vboxing.net/v/index.php?q=node/63'), Ramps mostly.

[elo]

every boss has been and can be downed by this group makeup.

I wouldn't say EVERY boss...

...for example, the eyeball in Crypts gave me trouble in NORMAL mode -- and the more gear I get, the harder Blackheart the Inciter gets.

LoL Vyn, I know EXACTLY what you mean on Blackheart. 4x chain lightning with high crit and high +dmg just plain sucks...

Go ahead and go Resto Souca, the instances become MUCH easier (Earth Shield pwns) and you won't slow down your questing noticeably because even 2 shaman tear the crap out of normal mobs.

[Kissell13]

Im runnin the pally/4 shaman combo and have hit pretty much all the instances so far with the exception of anything after BRD up until the expansion and that simply because i was super undergeared. I did ramps and BF from 62-63 and once i hit 64 i tore apart Slave Pens. Its way easier than the two before it. Some of the bosses are difficult, but once you figure it out it becomes trivial again. Just give it a shot. Once I got some decent gear from the first outland areas it got easy enough.

[Aradar]

To answer some questions and clarify what I'm asking:

I cleared the Draenei starting area and then started on Deadmines, clearing every instance as many times as it took to complete all the quests and/or get the appropriate level for the next instance all the way up to Outlands which put me at like 62 I believe. From there I ran every Outland instance until honored or I reached the appropriate level for the next instance; however, I didn't do the instance quest becuase I was saving the rep for post honored. I did this till I hit 70 at which point I started grinding money by going back and doing quests starting in Hellfire but I soon ditched that for dailies though I have done all the Hellfire and Zangramarsh quests. In short, I've cleared every non-70 instance. Only thing I've cleared at 70 is Mech (figured I'd try it since I was there for the totems).

As for the healer, I've had one speced resto from day one mainly becuase I just wanted a better feel for it but my healer does have a dps macro that I just move to an unbound button when I need a more continous healer. With that said, 3 full strength and one gimped lighting bolt have always done the trick for me on quest.

Anyhow, all I'm seeing is more people saying it's been done with no one saying "look at me" and if Vyndree isn't that person, who is? Guess I'll have to go through the PVE Progression thread and piece together what has been cleared since to my knowledge no one in that thread has cleared all of them either.

On a side note: can you run past Blackheart, reincarnate on the other side and go about your business?

Thanks.

[Mudd]

On a side note: can you run past Blackheart, reincarnate on the other side and go about your business?

There is a door that opens when he dies :-o

[Aradar]

On a side note: can you run past Blackheart, reincarnate on the other side and go about your business?



There is a door that opens when he dies :-o



Guess that answers that AND shows my knowledge of instances. :whistling:

[Souca]

Thanks for the info. I will likely respec one of the shammys resto to play around with tonight. I did notice that people seem to entering some instances later than I remember doing when I played solo. Do you find that to be the case because of multiboxing, or just because you want a quick and clean run?

- Souca -

[Quix]

I Highly suggest you look through the list of whos cleared what.

I think the answer to your question is : Tonus

I think he is probably the furthest that has been open/vocal about it on these forums with regards to soloing almost every heroic boss.

I personally stink at PVE multiboxed, & have done several heroics solo, but there are several bosses I cant get past even on normal.

1. Blackheart the pain in the .... in shadowlabs.
2. The 2nd boss in Mech, I can power through with pets, but i usually end with 1 guy standing, & I dont want to think about it on heroic.
3. That eye boss,,, shudder.

I am sure its possible to do them all, but it takes a lot of work. Veronika did Heroic MGT,, I cant even conceive of doing that, but theres videos backing it up.

[Bradster]

Not there yet with the alts but its really night and day compared to the locks. The sham/pall combo is a lot stronger. I did BF ok, Because they nerfed Hellfire I cannot kill the last boss at the end. while it's flying it shoots a fire ball down no matter where I move it lands right on top of them. Some times i make it to the point it lands. if it doesn't one shot my group then, it comes down to death over time he will bust a u and aoe the shit out of them lol. That boss gave me trouble with the locks as well. I said F him i'm never doing it again. That boss cost me 500g in repairs by now. It needs a nerf, i can clear harder instances with my eyes closed.

[Toned]

5 shaman ftw can clear all heroics :P RL made my video project kinda die off, I have tons of footage I need to get around to editing and posting. I'm pretty sure anything is doable multi-boxing that you can do solo boxing you just need to expand outside the box. Look at the guy 10manning kara :P

I've personally done everything but the crypts with my 5 shamans. I know the crypts first boss is doable. With an earth ele tanking with earthen shield, 4 fire elementals, and some flame shock / earth shock dps.

[Jaese]

Not there yet with the alts but its really night and day compared to the locks. The sham/pall combo is a lot stronger. I did BF ok, Because they nerfed Hellfire I cannot kill the last boss at the end. while it's flying it shoots a fire ball down no matter where I move it lands right on top of them. Some times i make it to the point it lands. if it doesn't one shot my group then, it comes down to death over time he will bust a u and aoe the shit out of them lol. That boss gave me trouble with the locks as well. I said F him i'm never doing it again. That boss cost me 500g in repairs by now. It needs a nerf, i can clear harder instances with my eyes closed.

You can't ground the fireball while it's in the air anymore?

[SuS]

Yes you can ground the fireball and make sure your team has a button bound to move forwards, took me about 5-6 attempts but now I got the 'knack' its not to tough. (Also helps with first boss in SV so good practice)

If Fire lands on them move them forwards ^-^ (also have Fire res totem or use pallas fire res aura :-))

[Havelcek]

I fully completed Ramparts, Blood Furnace @ 63, Slave Pens & Underbog at 64, and last night I cleared Mana Tombs & the escort quest at 65.

Just trying to learn how to run this group in instances has been the most fun I've ever had in WoW.

[Ken]

After levelling 4 shamans to 70, I realized that I missed a tank. Then RAF came along and now I'm trying the Warrior tank + 4 shamans, as I understood that Warriors have more potential as main tanks in raid instances.
I might level a Paladin to 30 and gift him to 60 though.

[Aradar]

I Highly suggest you look through the list of whos cleared what.

I think the answer to your question is : Tonus

I think he is probably the furthest that has been open/vocal about it on these forums with regards to soloing almost every heroic boss.

I personally stink at PVE multiboxed, & have done several heroics solo, but there are several bosses I cant get past even on normal.

1. Blackheart the pain in the .... in shadowlabs.
2. The 2nd boss in Mech, I can power through with pets, but i usually end with 1 guy standing, & I dont want to think about it on heroic.
3. That eye boss,,, shudder.

I am sure its possible to do them all, but it takes a lot of work. Veronika did Heroic MGT,, I cant even conceive of doing that, but theres videos backing it up.


I highly suggest you read the thread. :P Neither player you mentioned runs 1 pally/4 shaman and still all I see is yes it can be done and yes it has been done. I'm looking for someone that can say "yes it's possible, I've done it." Don't get me wrong, I love my group and don't plan on changeing them, just curious.

Thanks.

Edit: Quoted from my earlier post: "Guess I'll have to go through the PVE Progression thread and piece together what has been cleared since to my knowledge no one in that thread has cleared all of them either."

[Aradar]

Not there yet with the alts but its really night and day compared to the locks. The sham/pall combo is a lot stronger. I did BF ok, Because they nerfed Hellfire I cannot kill the last boss at the end. while it's flying it shoots a fire ball down no matter where I move it lands right on top of them. Some times i make it to the point it lands. if it doesn't one shot my group then, it comes down to death over time he will bust a u and aoe the shit out of them lol. That boss gave me trouble with the locks as well. I said F him i'm never doing it again. That boss cost me 500g in repairs by now. It needs a nerf, i can clear harder instances with my eyes closed.

You can't ground the fireball while it's in the air anymore?I think he is talking about doing BF on his locks, not his shaman.

[Havelcek]

Fursphere runs 1 pally 4 shaman at the heroic level. Just search for his posts.

[Aradar]

Fursphere runs 1 pally 4 shaman at the heroic level. Just search for his posts.

Edit: Posted before I typed anything. Anyhow, yeah I know, but he hasn't cleared all of them. I know heroics can be done leading to all the badges I could possibly want, but I'm just curious if EVERY SINGLE ONE of them can be cleared with this makeup controlled by one person. Over and over people say yes but with no proof pointing to the person that has done so.

[Havelcek]

Fursphere runs 1 pally 4 shaman at the heroic level. Just search for his posts.

Edit: Posted before I typed anything. Anyhow, yeah I know, but he hasn't cleared all of them. I know heroics can be done leading to all the badges I could possibly want, but I'm just curious if EVERY SINGLE ONE of them can be cleared with this makeup controlled by one person. Over and over people say yes but with no proof pointing to the person that has done so.Gotcha, I didn't fully read your original post and thought you were looking for a list of what had been done.

[puppychow]

I'd love to hear about anyone doing heroic magisters terrace, thats the one instance I really want to try and do daily when my team is all 70. The trash is crazy hard, and I imagine you absolutely need to spec 1 shaman resto, and hopefully grounding totem will eat most of the spells. Your tank will have to be very well geared as well I think. The 2nd boss is a nightmare when I just play him in a regular heroic group, can't even imagine in multibox :(

[Kyudo]

I did the following in Heroic before I got bored and started my 2nd team:

Ramps
Furnace
Shatt Halls
Slave Pens
Underborg
SV (2nd boss only so far)
Mech
Botanica