Running out of gold.. need tips please.

[Janix]

So I started 5 boxing shamans a week ago, and my cousin gave me 100g to start on this server. Well I am now down to about 25g, and my guys are lvl 30. At this point I don't have enough gold to buy their mounts, and foresee me running out of gold completely by 34 after buying their new spells. Anyone have any tips for making gold while boxing instead of losing it all? I haven't made any unnecessary purchases, and am using all quest gear. I was thinking about working on some professions, but that would take time away from my leveling.

I thought about running sm graveyard once I hit 32 for chain lightning. I used to run that on my mage at 60 a while back for cash, and it seemed pretty decent.

[Duane]

Do you have mining/skinning or herb/skinning on your main toon? If not you're missing out on a ton of gold.

[Mudd]

Don't buy anything at all, only train spells you need. Loot everything, vendor all trash, AH items a profession power leveller might buy, and pray for a twink BOE! I don't know many non-gathering professions that are profitable (or worth the time) at lower levels. You should have at least an enchanter in your group. Lower level enchanting mats sell for quite a bit and if youre running instances you should have plenty of things to disenchant. You might want to try mining/skinning as well if things are very tight.

If all else fails, dance for gold.

[roddo]

make your main a miner skinner, and do as many quests as possible where your skinning mobs or in the area of veins. Ah everything, and loot everything. At your level you could run some instances for cash and cloth drops which sell well, especially wool and mageweave, silk always seems to have a ceiling on the price the others don't have.

[Schwarz]

don't make you main a skinner make one of your slaves a skinner as you can highlight the dead body and macro the skin. You can free up the profession spot on your main for something else.

[kllrwlf]

Have all 3 gathering professions.

Do not go to the AH to buy.

Sell EVERYTHING.

When you reach 70, dailies.

It's very simple.

[Old Dirty Bathtub]

All of the previous advice is good; the only thing you should be spending money on before 70 is training spells and mounts.

Farm lower level instances for BoE blues (like Mudd says). SFK, VC, BFD, and WC should all be farmable for you. Target instances that drop high-demand twink items. (If you can get Shadowfang to drop from one of the Sons of Arugal, you just bought mounts for everyone!)

Gathering professions. Do circuits of Dun Morogh mining copper; it isn't glamorous, but you'll make money steadily and you can do it in your sleep.

Grind and skin (especially once you get to heavy leather or higher).

Level herbalism on one toon. It is a drag and not terribly profitable early, but you'll make insane money with it when you get to Outland.

Stand around major cities and wait for people buying guild charter signatures. I have made about 30 gold this way so far.

If you get really desperate, you could sell VC runs. (Personally, I'd rather grind for hours than do this, but YMMV.)

A note for later -- I saved a ton of money by grinding to exalted with my home faction before buying my epic ground mount.

[Crayonbox]

Get really skinny, practice alot. and go to china and farm the gold like michael phelps

[Shiena]

The easiest thing on a new realm with a new team: train enchanting with your main and tailoring with a slave. Have your main disenchant everything looted and everything created through tailoring, then sell the dust from enchanting. Especially the low level dust sells for truck loads of gold. I made 40g within an hour before I was level 10 doing this :-)

[Seraphaw]

I just leveled a team and all I can say is: Only buy these spells and new ranks!!

Lightning Bolt
Chain Lightning
Earth Shock
Frost Shock (for the elementals)
Flame Shock

Stoneclaw Totem
Grounding Totem
Fire Nova Totem

Ghost Wolf

That's about all you need for a five man team.

[Ken]

Don't forget an enchanter too, so you can disenchant all the useless bind-on-pickup items in instances.

[KvdM]

I can imagine that the RAF bonus xp will actually make getting your mount gold worse, since you level faster but your gold income stays roughly the same.

[Moorea]

just want to confirm that with RAF you do need a lot of extra gold to just train your spells. (basically because you get 3x xp you get 1/3rd the gold rate)

I didn't buy anything and looted and sold everything yet I needed a lot of gold infusion from my main just for training (not counting mounts etc...) so far I think I spent about 200g for 5x 1-43

[zanthor]

just want to confirm that with RAF you do need a lot of extra gold to just train your spells. (basically because you get 3x xp you get 1/3rd the gold rate)

I didn't buy anything and looted and sold everything yet I needed a lot of gold infusion from my main just for training (not counting mounts etc...) so far I think I spent about 200g for 5x 1-43Ain't this the truth... I hit level 8 and still couldn't train all my level 2 spells... I had looted everything, sold it all... All said and done, 1-60 with two trips to the AH for gear @ 100-150G per visit I spent just under 4K gold on skills (non selective, I trained everything) and mounts (Normal rider @ 30 & Epic rider @ 60.)

I would say one thing that will help is Auctioneer. Definitely pickup the gathering skills. I'd suggest putting Herbing on your main, mining and skinning on alts. Sell the lowbie mats for absurdly high prices, people will pay.

[Bovidae]

Tell your friend to buy your mounts for you.

If he's 70 and cant afford another 500g to give you, then GG

[Starbuck_Jones]

Mine more fish!

[blast3r]

mining, skinning, herbalism, inscription and enchanting. don't pay to level any of it

inscription is a great way to use low level skills to make some decent gold. some of the low level minor glyphs can get you around 20g each and it is nothing to collect what you need. very low level herbs. just make sure to do the minor inscription research every single day when the cooldown has expired. seriously, you should be able to get enough gold to get your mounts in a day at that level. grind instances as well and sell the greens and cloth.

[wowphreak]

Dont train yer spells :P

There's been times I hadnt trained new spell for about 10 levels when 5 boxing yeh really dont need the latest spells.

[algol]

You should never run out of money unless you're blowing it.
Leveling while multiboxing = you are usually low on gold.
Leveling while multiboxing while under the influence of RAF = gold? what's gold?

[gbremset]

Here's what I did when I started a horde team (I mainly play ally) on my PVE server.

I transferred 100g through the neutral AH, bought lots of cheap netherweave cloth, and found a tailor willing to craft bags for me (50g gone, approximately), try to make sure all your slaves have maximum bag space.

Loot all the stuff that drops, and if your bags are full, prioritize in this order: White stuff, Grey stuff:Weapons, Plate, Mail, Leather, Cloth, Rubbish. But try to maximize the amount of bag space you have at all times. (get bigger bags)

Vendor every single grey item that you don't need or can't use to replace an armor item. (I like to have every tiny bit of advantage I get)

Some people like to level an enchanter to DE stuff, I vendor soulbound items for the money instead, because I'm too lazy to level enchanting. :P If I did, and couldn't gain more skill from DE'ing, I would enchant all the items I can before putting them at the AH, looses you some copper/silver in enchanting mats, but makes it more likely you'll sell the item., and you skill up your enchanting.

Check all your white stuff towards professions before vendoring (Maybe check the going rate at the AH), and sell it at the AH if it's worth the effort. (I consider trying to sell the item 3 times as a guideline to if I'm putting it up for auction or not)

Put all your green BOE's on the AH (The addon Auctioneer or something similar is great, also for the white things)

At level 20, I'm still at only 50g, but I've got all the trained spells, plus all my guys now have full sets of NW bags.. :)

[Naylix]

This topic is over 3 months old - was bumped with some lame irrelavent comment.

Could we have it locked and let it die please ?

[jettzypher]

Could we have it locked and let it die please why? as time goes by, people come up with better ways to make money, or new people come on that have ideas that havent been seen before...nothing wrong with an old thread gettin some new love...

i like to run around and clean up after people (mining/skinning) theres plenty of people that dont have either, and plenty that think mining an elemental or revenant is a waste of time. but the 20 stack of grey crap you mine from that revenent sells for 4.5g. really easy money.

[Seldum]

What I did was to have my main with skinning/herb
My first ALD (big on second screen) have minig and enchanting.

I takes a bit getting used to have to look at 2 minimaps but its works out good enough for now, except I hate leveling mining, it takes forever!

[zanthor]

You should never run out of money unless you're blowing it.This is 100% accurate UNLESS RAF is in the picture. If RAF is in the picture, all bets are off.

Herbing - Right now you already missed a big opportunity with lowbie herbs, they were selling for absurd amounts at lich kings launch, still pretty valuable as people are skilling up inscription though.

Skinning - This is a very valuable skill as you can easily keep it maintained and is easily macroable to an alt who's not the leader. (/cast [target=focustarget]Skinning)

Mining - Again a valuable skill, easy to maintain once you get it caught up.

Enchanting - This used to be a moneymaker, however in my opinion now the money you'll lose skilling it up isn't worth the money you'll earn selling the few components you aren't using to skill it up. Enchanting is now a skill I level when I hit cap and can fund it from slaughtering lowbie instances instead of the other way around.

Inscription - This could be amazingly profitable if you can level it up some and get lucky on researching, it will eat into your herbing profits, however the minor glyphs are absurdly profitable due to the way they are discovered.

[Kyudo]

Enchanting - This used to be a moneymaker, however in my opinion now the money you'll lose skilling it up isn't worth the money you'll earn selling the few components you aren't using to skill it up. Enchanting is now a skill I level when I hit cap and can fund it from slaughtering lowbie instances instead of the other way around.I have to state strongly that this is totally the opposite of my experience, I am still playing AHs on three servers and 5 AHs (3 Ally, 2 Horde). I make anything ranging from 500-2000g per day per AH purely from disenchanting. This is dependent on competition, and the disenchanting skill of my guys on the server, but there is always money to be made from enchanting, even more so in Wrath now. The number of people who are dumping blue prof levelling items on the AH at dirt cheap prices makes this even more the case atm..... I dabble in crafting and ofc have gathering skills on my some of my chars, but without DE I'd be a much poorer man.

Besides, with 375 ench you can disenchant any item currently in the game, so you dont need to level all the way to 450 to make a profit from it, and getting to 375 is probably cheaper now than it ever was. Hell, one of my guys makes about 500g a day at only L20 with 225 enchanting skill.

In terms of selling enchants themselves? I rarely bother, can't be bothered dealing with the tards and hagglers, although I sometimes put scrolls on the AH. As for levelling it? I dont rush it, and just level when I have excess stocks of the mats I need at that time.

For an intro to DEing for profit see here:

http://wowforprofit.blogspot.com/2008/12/disenchanting-primer.html

[Marloon]

You should never run out of money unless you're blowing it.
Leveling while multiboxing = you are usually low on gold.
Leveling while multiboxing while under the influence of RAF = gold? what's gold?I just want to second this. My characters feel rich when they have 50 gold each and thats only after I have gone 10+ levels without buying spells or talents. Thats the biggest challenge.

[Eldi]

MY chars were rich at 65 after 30 million ramps runs then epic mount training and all that im now down to 250G per char :( and im 71 best i can say is sell every thing like cloth leathers and even mining things in the ah. untill 60 then run ramps a million times and ull be riich

[Crayonbox]

Man, this is an old thread. But I'll actually throw in a real suggestion other than going to china to farm gold.

I am currently 80 on my shamans and sitting on about 120k gold. How? Easy. Tradeskills.

All my shamans are tailored to make gold.

shaman tradeskills as follows

mining alchemy

skinning alchemy

herbing alchemy

enchanting alchemy

and a 5th still sitting at 70 with jewelcrafting alchemy.

But crayon. why so many alchemists? isnt that really redundant? Why thank you for asking. Yes. yes it is redundant. But so is everything in WoW.

If you arent level 80 yet and sitting on a nice amount of capital already, 4x or 5x alchemy is going to cost a bit too much for the average person to do right off the bat, but if you can get started on 1 or 2, itll help a ton. If you cant afford it, fear not. Simply having all the gathering skills will net you far more gold than you can imagine, especially early in the expansion.

Mining. Ore goes for stupid amounts right now. doesnt matter what server your on. blacksmiths, jewelcrafters and engineers go through bars like crazy. with the added benefit of having a titan steel bar cooldown once a day going for about 25-50g on my server, youll make some easy money simply by doing this once a day.

Cobalt is up to something stupid like 45-50 on my server and from the few other servers that i play on, theyre hovering around the same price range.

Saronite is far more common than dirt and sells stupidly for around the same if not slightly lower than cobalt. Still, its a ton of money.

Titanium. You get crystalized fire water air and earth from these babies and you can find em every 10 steps in wintergrasp... assuming the army of level 70 rogues arent already there farming all your shit.

Skinning. Borean leather goes for about 20 to 25 gold a stack. pretty cheap right? take into account the sheer amount of leather you can skin from simply flying around doing "graveyard" duty in sholazr baisen... yea youll end up with endless stacks of this stuff. and if you find artic fur while youre at it, thats another 25-35g per.

Herbing. Alchemists galour and scribes going through an endless amount of herbs with northrend research of alchemy recipies and glyph research, major and minor 1 a day.... they are all going to always need more herbs.

Need a resource? DO NOT BUY. EVER. Go farm it yourself. ALWAYS. As a multiboxer we never have to worry too much about gankers and any mob is easy cake for us. ( I did every single quest in outland without the help of anyone with the except of the ring wars questline in icecrown ). Need ore? Titanium and saronite are in ABUNDANCE in wintergrasp. Need eternals of some sort? Wait for wintergrasp to be on your side's control and go farm the revenants in wintergrasp. They are 100% chance to drop 1-3 crystalized whatever youre killing of. They have about 25k health but with shamans...pfft~ 1-2 shot them.

Need herbs? Depending on which kind you need they are all over the place. If you need it for inscription, go to scholezar baisen and grab the adders tongue. its everywhere and it mashes into the same ink that any other northrend herb would mash into.

enchanting is a given because enchanting mats will ALWAYS cost a lot. and simply because always having an enchanter when doing instances is a neccessity.

Alchemy. So why 5x alchemists? Simple. Transmutes. Some people may dissagree with me witht he amount of sheer income simple transmutes will generate, but I find that it unrivals everything else in terms of ( effort x income ). Simply transmute eternal mights over and over and sell them. If youre lucky enough for a proc, then you get free money, other wise youre still generating a massive amount of profit. if you dont have the eternals for the might transmute, simply transmute something else into another eternal. chance for proc and still making profit by turning a common eternal like earth into something rare like air or fire.

also please make sure to take up transmute mastery if you go alchemists. elixir and potion isnt worth it. And never hand in 4 primal mights for the transmute mastery quest. Simply go pick up the potion mastery quest and pay the 120g to change to transmute mastery. it takes less time than rounding up 16 primal mights and costs less.

If youre a tailor then go with constantly keeping your cloth transmutes on cooldown. I went with 6 primal mooncloth transmuters in BC and made a ton of money constantly pumping out primal mooncloth and working in sync with my alchemists doing primal earth to water and earth to life when they werent doing primal mights.

engineer... dont bother. no profit to be had here. or at least very little.

jewelcrafting is a very good one to have but I dont see the point of sticking it on a main character because all the jewelcrafting recipes are bought doing dailys. just make sure to do them everyday and mine alot of ore for prospecting.

blacksmithing leatherworking, I dont see these two tradeskills bringing anythign to the table in terms of profitability for multiboxers who play shamans. people who like to min max their characters and not worry about profit would find these two tradeskills rather appealing, but other than that, there just isnt many items you could pump out with these two tradeskilsl that arent mostly for self improvement.



gonna stop before i get carpel tunnel. and TLDR version. Go farm. it helps. and use the auctionhouse. but i wont even get started on auction housing. im sure there are more than enough guides on that.



edit: almost forogt. DONT LEVELING BANDAGING

save the cloth and gouge those pour caster sods leveling tailoring. theyre buying up cloth at 30-40g a stack. Rule number 1 of profiteering. GOUGE THEM TILL THEY BLEED!