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jtbndy
08-11-2008, 02:25 PM
First off, my apologies at yet another RAF thread...I scanned as many threads as I could but still did not find an answer...
Suppose I have Account A (w/ Lvl 70) linked / recruited to Account B (lvl 1 boostee) and ...
Account B linked / recruited Account C (lvl 1 boostee) ....
If I start doing instance runs with all 3 in a group, will the 2 lower levels gain the 3x XP?
I know it states that if a 70 unlinked is in a group two linked characters they will receive the boosted XP but I have not seen anything regarding the case I described above. I guess the boosted XP would be gone from Account A and B... but because B and C are linked and unlinked with A it would still receive the 3x boost hence giving the boosted xp to both B and C?
Sorry again for the RAF question...I'll delete it after my question is answered. Thanks again! Sorry again! :)
mlwhitt
08-11-2008, 02:31 PM
Here is my setup:
#1 (Vet) Lowbie
#2 (Link to #1) lowbie
#3 (Link to #1) 70 Mage I transferred for boosting.
#4 (Vet) lowbie
#5 (Link to #4) lowbie
In this setup I am getting:
#1 no bonus XP
#2 bonus XP
#3 No XP of course
#4 bonus XP
#5 bonus XP.
The moral of the story is make sure your 70 that is boosting is in no way related to the other accounts. I am cheating my #1 account out of bonus XP though #2 is getting RAF XP.
mlwhitt
08-11-2008, 02:33 PM
Oh one other thing if you are going to turn in quest be sure to drop your 70 out of party with the lowbies so they get the RAF bonus as well.
jtbndy
08-11-2008, 02:54 PM
So if I'm reading that correctly... in my case, even though B recruits C.... when A (lvl 70), B, and C are in a group, B will not receive XP because the A-B link trumps the B-C link?
Just want to be crystal clear :)
mlwhitt
08-11-2008, 03:33 PM
Actually no. If you have this setup:
A) Vet with 70
B) RAF
C) RAF
None will get RAF Kill Bonus nor Quest Turn in bonus.
If you had
A) Vet (Lowbie)
B) RAF (Lowbie)
C) RAF (with transferred 70) such as I have then:
A) gets no Bonus (except XP bonus when you drop the 70 out of party), B) Gets XP bonus and Quest Bonus .
mlwhitt
08-11-2008, 03:35 PM
So if I'm reading that correctly... in my case, even though B recruits C.... when A (lvl 70), B, and C are in a group, B will not receive XP because the A-B link trumps the B-C link?
Just want to be crystal clear :)
Wait I may have misread your question.
If your set is like this:
A) Standalone with no links with a 70 to boost
B) Vet
C) RAF of B
then You will get XP Bonus for your B/C as long as they are in no way linked with the account that the 70 boosting is part of.
jtbndy
08-11-2008, 04:08 PM
If I have ...
A) A vet with a 70
B) lowbie RAF from A
C) lowbie RAF from B
Basically A recruits B and B recruits C.
I know standalone B and C would get the boosted XP if A was entirely independent. My question is does the B account get 3x XP if all 3 accounts are grouped (I know C will since its independent from A)?
Sorry for the confusion!
The reasoning behind my question is that I have accounts A and B already, but to get an account entirely independent for my lvl 70, would involve getting another account and transferring, or waiting till the 90 days is up on the A-B link then referring C with the B account..
ChaoticMonk
08-11-2008, 04:13 PM
A B & C would get 3x xp if they are all the same level (and below level 60), If B & C are grouped they will get 3x xp (per the stated conditions), if A & B are grouped they will get 3x xp, if A & C are grouped niether gets 3x xp.
That being said, I have a group of linked characters that are not the same level (1-3 level difference) that are still getting the boosted xp regardless.
I have also compelted quests and got 3x xp when my linked character was not on the quest (but in the party).
jtbndy
08-11-2008, 04:19 PM
A B & C would get 3x xp if they are all the same level (and below level 60), If B & C are grouped they will get 3x xp (per the stated conditions), if A & B are grouped they will get 3x xp, if A & C are grouped niether gets 3x xp.
That being said, I have a group of linked characters that are not the same level (1-3 level difference) that are still getting the boosted xp regardless.
I have also compelted quests and got 3x xp when my linked character was not on the quest (but in the party).But will B & C get 3x xp if A (level 70) is in the party? I think you covered every combination but this one hehe.
I appreciate the help guys!
mlwhitt
08-11-2008, 04:30 PM
If I have ...
A) A vet with a 70
B) lowbie RAF from A
C) lowbie RAF from B
Basically A recruits B and B recruits C.
I know standalone B and C would get the boosted XP if A was entirely independent. My question is does the B account get 3x XP if all 3 accounts are grouped (I know C will since its independent from A)?
Sorry for the confusion!
The reasoning behind my question is that I have accounts A and B already, but to get an account entirely independent for my lvl 70, would involve getting another account and transferring, or waiting till the 90 days is up on the A-B link then referring C with the B account..
I wouldn't do it this way if you are planning on using Account A to boost B & C. The reason being is that being level 70 on A would keep you from getting RAF on B&C.
Pretty much if you want to boost with your 70 you would need to get account B and RAF C and have both independent from A.
jtbndy
08-11-2008, 04:33 PM
I wouldn't do it this way if you are planning on using Account A to boost B & C. The reason being is that being level 70 on A would keep you from getting RAF on B&C.
Pretty much if you want to boost with your 70 you would need to get account B and RAF C and have both independent from A.Ok, so if I waited the 90 days for the link to expire between A and B. And recruited C with B. Would that work with A boosting B & C?
Im not sure if anyone would have a definitive answer since nobody has reached the 90 days yet...
Appreciate the answers... helps me out alot!
mlwhitt
08-11-2008, 04:34 PM
A B & C would get 3x xp if they are all the same level (and below level 60), If B & C are grouped they will get 3x xp (per the stated conditions), if A & B are grouped they will get 3x xp, if A & C are grouped niether gets 3x xp.
That being said, I have a group of linked characters that are not the same level (1-3 level difference) that are still getting the boosted xp regardless.
I have also compelted quests and got 3x xp when my linked character was not on the quest (but in the party).But will B & C get 3x xp if A (level 70) is in the party? I think you covered every combination but this one hehe.
I appreciate the help guys!
As long as the 70 is not part of the RAF link the other two would get 3x XP minus the offset from having a higher character killing mobs gray to them.
For example with a 5 person group in SM My RAF toons where getting close to 310xp per kill at level 20 from having my mage boost them.
mlwhitt
08-11-2008, 04:36 PM
I wouldn't do it this way if you are planning on using Account A to boost B & C. The reason being is that being level 70 on A would keep you from getting RAF on B&C.
Pretty much if you want to boost with your 70 you would need to get account B and RAF C and have both independent from A.Ok, so if I waited the 90 days for the link to expire between A and B. And recruited C with B. Would that work with A boosting B & C?
Im not sure if anyone would have a definitive answer since nobody has reached the 90 days yet...
Appreciate the answers... helps me out alot!
Honestly the best thing for what you are wanting is to use two new accounts. With new account #1 refer new account # 2. Then boost with your old account. You will miss out on the free month and mount other than on your new account # 1 but this will allow you to boost with your old account without losing RAF on one or both of the other accounts.
Woodchuck
08-12-2008, 12:06 PM
Looks like bad news ('http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765628748&sid=1') :
"Q: How does the bonus experience work?
Let's say we have Account A with a level 70 character, Account B with a level 1 character and Account C with another level 1 character, all three characters are grouped. Account B and Account C are linked, will they receive triple experience?
A: Bonus experience should only be granted if the experience is not trivial to anyone in the group. Our Quality Assurance Team is looking into reports that some of these restrictions are not consistent and hope to resolve the issue soon."
jtbndy
08-12-2008, 03:24 PM
Yeah, I just saw that on WoW's main page. Good thing I didn't get any new accounts.
Think I'll just stick to RAF questing right now.
Think I'm at around 20 hours play time at lvl 27.
Stabface
08-12-2008, 03:46 PM
Yeah, I just saw that on WoW's main page. Good thing I didn't get any new accounts.
Think I'll just stick to RAF questing right now.
Think I'm at around 20 hours play time at lvl 27.
How are you sticking to RAF questing if you didn't get new accounts? Color me confused...
Klamor
08-12-2008, 03:46 PM
i think maybe if the lvl 70 had no relation to any of the other account, it might work..
like have your main account linked to accounts 2,3, and 4
then have an already owned account/make a new account and transfer a 70 to that one.... therefore, all the RAF accounts are in no relation to the 70
jtbndy
08-12-2008, 04:13 PM
Yeah, I just saw that on WoW's main page. Good thing I didn't get any new accounts.
Think I'll just stick to RAF questing right now.
Think I'm at around 20 hours play time at lvl 27.How are you sticking to RAF questing if you didn't get new accounts? Color me confused...I guess I should have said any *more* new accounts. I was contemplating getting a new boosting independent account, as I already had a vet and recruit.
Freddman
08-13-2008, 05:46 AM
Did they fix the boosting RAF's with lvl 70, or does it still work?
Stabface
08-13-2008, 06:18 AM
Still works *for now* and is not an exploit *for now* but is going to be changed as soon as Blizz can do so.
Lorune
08-13-2008, 06:21 AM
Funny how all the hypocrits that you heard with the Zolo boosting arent saying anything at the moment, even though it was clear that it is the same in essence.
Freddman
08-13-2008, 06:24 AM
Still works *for now* and is not an exploit *for now* but is going to be changed as soon as Blizz can do so.
Ok, better skip the Shaman totem quests for now then, and just boost until they fix it :P
Jaws5
08-13-2008, 01:28 PM
Hmmmmmmmm
If you can still boost with a 70 and other 4 toons can get 3x exp, is this a good way to set it up
Vet account a refers n1
Vet account a refers n2
vet account a refers n3
upgrade3 accunts lvl to 90 day ones
lvl all toons 4 mans to 60 , 4 druids , 4 shammys , 4 locks, 4 mages, 4 hunters, 4 priests, etc
at end of 90 days turn off accounts and transfer chars back to one of standard 5 box acounts
or just leave all 8 accounts active
:)
jtbndy
08-13-2008, 01:40 PM
While it is still active, I think since Blizzard is on record that this is not the intended use, you should RAF boost at your own discretion.
On an off topic, I hit 30 yesterday on my RAF questing toons with just about 1 day of play time.
Vyndree
08-13-2008, 02:54 PM
Funny how all the hypocrits that you heard with the Zolo boosting arent saying anything at the moment, even though it was clear that it is the same in essence.
Nobody had a problem with Zolo boosting when it was confirmed by a blue to be ok.
Nobody had a problem with RAF boosting when it was confirmed by a blue to be ok.
SOME had a problem with Zolo boosting (or similar) after it was hotfixed.
SOME believed that finding a Zolo-similar encounter after the Zolo hotfix was OK.
SOME had a problem with RAF boosting when the FAQ was edited to say that it was a bug.
NOBODY had a problem with RAF boosting post-FAQ edit, after a blue confirmed that it was still ok to do so until it was hotfixed.
There's the difference. If blue confirms it's ok, it's ok. If blue does not, you will get people on both sides of the fence.
Suvega
08-13-2008, 02:57 PM
Hai, you were refering to me I assume?
My point was, doing something similar is going to be risky.
It is. Look at the blue post saying it's currenty not intended and will be hotfixed soon, and that people should not be doing it :P
I.E. I told you so?
Like I said, not gonna probably get you banned, but it isn't really the BEST thing to be doing right now... eh? :)
Koojay
08-13-2008, 03:14 PM
So essentially we have until Tuesday? I assume Blizzard will hot fix it then.
Vyndree
08-13-2008, 03:36 PM
So essentially we have until Tuesday? I assume Blizzard will hot fix it then.
I'd say don't count on it being around for long, but we really don't know how big of a bug this is to fix or how much testing will need to be done on it. I mean... other patches have messed with seemingly unrelated things like tauren weapon scaling. :P So it depends on the speed/accuracy of their dev and test team.
grim_scythe
08-13-2008, 04:52 PM
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765584132&sid=1&pageNo=4
Post #61 Blue says it's not an exploit.
However the last post by another blue says "
Here's the real bottom line: You can still take advantage of every feature of the RAF. It still works properly. You just can't powerlevel your alts with a level 70 character and still benefit from the 300% experience bonus. "
I am confused is this still legal to do?
Caspian
08-13-2008, 05:02 PM
It is until they fix it. Then it will still be legal but no bonus.
Vyndree
08-13-2008, 05:11 PM
Basically blues have confirmed that while the 3x boosting so in instances was NOT intended and WILL be removed in the future, using the bonus pre-fix will not get you banned.
The ETA for the fix is unknown.
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