What is the most boxxed characters in WoW today?

[Temor]

I looked through the forums and didn't see anything related, but I'm interested in knowing how many characters are the most someone has today. I'm not concerned with the numbers people claim to have boxxed in the past or trial accounts or anything illegal or anything people are saying they will be boxxing. I'm interested in knowing who is boxxing the most characters in World of Warcraft right now with their own paid accounts.

I'm boxxing 15 shaman on the Aegwynn realm and I've not heard of anyone that boxes more than that so far, but interested in knowing if anyone boxes more.

[Enti]

I looked through the forums and didn't see anything related, but I'm interested in knowing how many characters are the most someone has today. I'm not concerned with the numbers people claim to have boxxed in the past or trial accounts or anything illegal or anything people are saying they will be boxxing. I'm interested in knowing who is boxxing the most characters in World of Warcraft right now with their own paid accounts.

I'm boxxing 15 shaman on the Aegwynn realm and I've not heard of anyone that boxes more than that so far, but interested in knowing if anyone boxes more.O_o How many computers is that running on? Most I've seen was 10 which is Oath on Us Magetheridon..

[Temor]

I looked through the forums and didn't see anything related, but I'm interested in knowing how many characters are the most someone has today. I'm not concerned with the numbers people claim to have boxxed in the past or trial accounts or anything illegal or anything people are saying they will be boxxing. I'm interested in knowing who is boxxing the most characters in World of Warcraft right now with their own paid accounts.

I'm boxxing 15 shaman on the Aegwynn realm and I've not heard of anyone that boxes more than that so far, but interested in knowing if anyone boxes more.O_o How many computers is that running on? Most I've seen was 10 which is Oath on Us Magetheridon..

The 15 accounts are running on six computers. Two of the six computers are desktops which run four accounts each and there are four laptop computers which run two each except the last one which runs one account. I actually have the computer power to run 28 accounts but that would costs more in electricity and more on the accounts. Although I can afford it, I can't spend that much time on maintaining so many characters. :)

[Ryan]

I demand to see screenshots. 60 totems just sounds ridiculous. Past ridiculous. I already get people complain my 15 totems lag them when they group with me. (I have to tell them how to turn off the names over the totems to help with their lag problem)

[Kyudo]

So you want the record for the most active characters boxed at one time? Here take the medal. Sam is coming to get you anyway.
I'm not concerned with the numbers people claim to have boxxed in the past or trial accounts.

[Xzin]

I have managed 40 odd trial accounts at the same time. Not really what you are going for though. Any beyond 10 starts to get into the "you can already WTF own entire groups so why bother with more" category as the micromanagement / need to gear up / annoyances of boxing increases substantially.

[twobztwop]

anything more than 5 I'd imagine would be an exercise in frustration. 5 of anything had better make someone pay for it. Otherwise get better gear / skills.

[Vyndree]

I'm interested in knowing how many characters are the most someone has today. I'm not concerned with the numbers people claim to have boxxed in the past or trial accounts or anything illegal or anything people are saying they will be boxxing. I'm interested in knowing who is boxxing the most characters in World of Warcraft right now with their own paid accounts.

Is there a prize involved for winning in such a circumstancial scenario?

There are threads here of people who 20+ boxed, but you don't want to hear about them.
There are people who have tested 10+ boxing on trial accounts, but you don't want to hear about them either.

We're a community -- not a competition. ;) We help everyone.

Even so much as 2-boxing should not be considered "lowly". We appreciate and assist them the same as we assist the 10+ boxing theorycrafters. ;)

I don't really know the answer to your question -- there could very well be 15+ boxers that we don't know about because they keep to themselves. However, I just want to make sure that we're not giving the impression here that "size is everything".

[Fleecy]

The best I've achived is a 10 man perpetual motion ring around the tree in outside the AH in SW. :)

Each character follows a different characters (obviously the one in front of it) and you have the first character following the last chracter. By the time the movement lag catches up to the last chracter it in turn moves your first chracter, thus causing a perpetual motion ring.

Slightly off topic but slighly relative all the time.

[Ishar]

thats so awesome fleecy. I used to speculate in EQ about how many accounts it would take to do that, and if it was possible. Never tried it with more than 5 tho. LOL. If i ever 10+box, its totally the first thing im gonna do. heck, i might waste a keybind on it just for kicks. (post battle victory conga?)

[Lyonheart]

I have 12 acnts but will soon be back to 7. I was going to try and get my own 10 man raid team. But i have FUN with 5 and i think 10 would be WORK. SO i have 7 that i will always use. 5 box team and a priest and mage for buffs/support.

[Naysayer]

I'm interested in knowing how many characters are the most someone has today. I'm not concerned with the numbers people claim to have boxxed in the past or trial accounts or anything illegal or anything people are saying they will be boxxing. I'm interested in knowing who is boxxing the most characters in World of Warcraft right now with their own paid accounts.

Is there a prize involved for winning in such a circumstancial scenario?

There are threads here of people who 20+ boxed, but you don't want to hear about them.
There are people who have tested 10+ boxing on trial accounts, but you don't want to hear about them either.

We're a community -- not a competition. ;) We help everyone.

Even so much as 2-boxing should not be considered "lowly". We appreciate and assist them the same as we assist the 10+ boxing theorycrafters. ;)

I don't really know the answer to your question -- there could very well be 15+ boxers that we don't know about because they keep to themselves. However, I just want to make sure that we're not giving the impression here that "size is everything".Why do you assume he's trying to be a competitive epeen boxer? He never asked about a prize, only mentioned that he was curious if there were any larger scale boxers devoted beyond trial accounts. Even if he were interested in having the "title" for most boxed currently, who gives a crap? Why cry about it? Good for him. I remember Xzin posting in the official forums about being proud to have been boxing the largest group in the game. Most everyone thought it was kinda cool.

We're a community, not a competition? We help everyone? Seemed he was asking a question, not holding tryouts and ostrisizing the losers.

Where in the hell did he say anything about 2 boxers being "lowly", or even inquire if they deserve to get help here? WTF?

He doesn't know the answer to his question either, kind of why he asked if anyone else knew. Size doesn't matter? I'm not going to say it matters to me, cause it doesn't, but the longest running thread since I joined these forums is the SamDeathknight 25boxer thread.

Why are you trying to rain on this guys parade? No harm no foul. It was just a simple question... Stop being such a raincloud. Talk about high school drama club ftl.

[Vyndree]

Why do you assume he's trying to be a competitive epeen boxer? He never asked about a prize, only mentioned that he was curious if there were any larger scale boxers devoted beyond trial accounts. Even if he were interested in having the "title" for most boxed currently, who gives a crap? Why cry about it? Good for him. I remember Xzin posting in the official forums about being proud to have been boxing the largest group in the game. Most everyone thought it was kinda cool.

I'm not saying he was, just clarifying that number of boxes isn't everything in this hobby. We don't really see too many 2-3 boxers speak their mind on the forums, and I want to make sure that it was clear that, despite his question, it's not a popularity race determined by number of characters boxed.

If he was interested in there were larger-scale boxers or what their experiences were, I'd have been happy to point him towards the two 20+ boxers who posted some photos of their rather elaborate rigs on this forum long ago. Nixi's kara thread also has some great information from a 10-boxer's perspective. But he didn't want that, so I clearly admitted that I don't have an answer to his particular scenario -- my post was, in essence, "be careful you're not alienating the community by unintentionally implying that the number of boxes you use -- today, with full accounts -- is any measurement of success".

Intentional or not, his question had an air of elitism. I'm just asking, nicely, that we keep in mind to watch ourselves such that we don't alienate the 2-3 boxers.

[Gadzooks]

If he was interested in there were larger-scale boxers or what their experiences were, I'd have been happy to point him towards the two 20+ boxers who posted some photos of their rather elaborate rigs on this forum long ago.Was that the man/wife team who were running a guild/raid themselves? The ones who had the pictures of all of the boxes from the accounts they owned? I've always been curious about them, not much is known - or at least I don't know much. :)

[Naysayer]

I'm not saying he was, just clarifying that number of boxes isn't
everything in this hobby. We don't really see too many 2-3 boxers speak
their mind on the forums, and I want to make sure that it was clear
that, despite his question, it's not a popularity race determined by
number of characters boxed.

I don't know how you came to believe that this guy thinks number of
accounts placed them higher upon the imaginary pedestal around here,
but if that's just something you wanted to proclaim I guess that's
cool. Just seemed like this guy was getting flamed for no reason. I
didn't see any arrogant pretension in his post. If he was being a braggart, flame away, but that's not what I see from the OPost.




If he was interested in there were larger-scale boxers or what their
experiences were, I'd have been happy to point him towards the two 20+
boxers who posted some photos of their rather elaborate rigs on this
forum long ago. Nixi's kara thread also has some great information from
a 10-boxer's perspective. But he didn't want that, so I clearly
admitted that I don't have an answer to his particular scenario -- my
post was, in essence, "be careful you're not alienating the community
by unintentionally implying that the number of boxes you use -- today,
with full accounts -- is any measurement of success".

Intentional
or not, his question had an air of elitism. I'm just asking, nicely,
that we keep in mind to watch ourselves such that we don't alienate the
2-3 boxers.

Hah, wow. Oooookayyyy...

So you do know of some, but you refused to tell him because you felt he
was being a braggart? Umm, why? Was it the part where he said "I'm
interested" or the part where he said "I BETZ I HAV MORE THUN U GUYZ
LOL PWNED"? wtf?



Regardless, I'm just going to drop it after this post. I don't agree with you at all, and I thought your post could deter people from wanting to ask legitimate questions here.

[Otlecs]

I have no idea what the OP did to deserve the borderline flaming that he got for asking what to my mind is a very, very straightforward question.

I suggest that if people don't know the answer they just don't reply.

Big props for running 15, Temor - I can barely manage 5 effectively :)

[Malekyth]

I don't see it either, but who knows what sets people off? We've all had different experiences on messageboards and all have different trigger phrases and threshholds. Comparing mosts-of may be Vyndree's. Clear communication in informal text is too inexact a science to hold anything against anyone.

I also have enough trouble running five. I *want to run 10 and solo Kara, but I'm currently stuck on Herod so that's a leeetle ways off. In the meantime, I'll live vicariously through those with spare computers, patience, and hopefully Fraps!

[Ishar]

hmm.

/gets a riot shield and hides behind it.

I fail at forum searches. what threads with 20+ boxers showing off rigs? just curious. haven't been around very long hehe.

as an aside; i dunno. no one but the OP can really say what his motivation for asking was. This thread caught my eye (inspite of the somewhat odd title, i swear at first I thought he was asking what the most popular class was LOL) and i'm as curious as the next person what the answer is. Seems like a harmless question in an of itself, to me. Tho, he did say 'currently.' So I can see the whole 'epeen' angle, kinda. on the other hand, well, what was practical (and sane) yesteryear might not be sane now.

there is a very small number of 2 and 3 boxers about. But really, i think its because those folks are....probably legion. I imagine alot of people have a pocket healer or buffer or whatever, and just live with tabbing or a spare KBD and never bother trying to optimize things through keyclone or crazy things like vetras. I know that in EQ, for instance, you can't throw a brick without hitting a dual boxer. after 3 it gets pretty rare, and theres only a couple handfuls that run full groups(per server, i mean). WoW isn't as bad with the whole pocket healer thing, but I imagine for various reasons, more people than you think 2box. Eh, the point is that I doubt they are embarrassed to ask questions here, just, they have no reason to cause they get by without anything remotely fancy. I know I went years before stubbing my toe over keyclone (A video i saw made a reference to it, and then I found this forum, lol)

and @ OP, what do you do with 15 chars anyway? BGs? Just curious. Props either way.

[Nixi]

I'm running 10 actively raiding Kara every week. I've taken a couple pot shots at ZAM but have yet to down any bosses.

10 is work. I can't really imagine trying to do any more than 10 in WOW's current state.

Battlegrounds? My toons lag out and it's not like I can complete any objectives anyway if I were to spend the money to upgrade my internet connection.

World PVP? Non existant on my server. Horde outnumber the Alliance by a large margin and even in a server with healthy populations of whichever faction your trying to kill I can't see it being entertaining for longer than a couple hours. 10 characters is more than enough to 1 shot anyone, so why go for more?

Raids? I can't do Netherspite because it requires more than 2 independent actions, what 25 man boss doesn't need more than 1 person to think? Maybe molten core, but that is old news now.

Seriously, managing my toons is becoming a full-time job. If everyone was the same classes and complete clones of one another, then it might be a bit easier, but dammmnnnn I'm starting to get burntout just preparing to play my 10 guys. Mods break, macros to be copied across computers, banks/inventory to manage, crafting professions, consumables, AH games, Arena, x 10 omgmyheadhurts. ><

[Tizer]

I think i know why! Its an American thing isnt it. Anyone with more guns obviously has the louder voice, or something :x

[Frosty]

This has gotten blown out or proportion.

The bad part about text on the internet, is that there is no sound for emphasis when reading other than what we put into it ourselves.
Without knowing the original poster's intentions, it can be taken as a curious post, or elitist. All Vyndree did was point this out and ask to be careful.

Can't we all just get along? :P

[Klamor]

lol i wanna see someone box illidan.... that would be some crazy stuff :)

[Vyndree]

If he was interested in there were larger-scale boxers or what their experiences were, I'd have been happy to point him towards the two 20+ boxers who posted some photos of their rather elaborate rigs on this forum long ago.Was that the man/wife team who were running a guild/raid themselves? The ones who had the pictures of all of the boxes from the accounts they owned? I've always been curious about them, not much is known - or at least I don't know much. :)

Yepyep -- they basically ran their cables thru the wall to their computer room, with a bunch of shuttle PCs. I believe one was running 23, and the other 22.

I can try to dig up the thread... This was back when we were using the old forum software so any links I have now are probably dead.

EDIT: Here we go -- Gameslah's 50 Boxing Setup ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=498&pageNo=1')

[Vyndree]

This has gotten blown out or proportion.

The bad part about text on the internet, is that there is no sound for emphasis when reading other than what we put into it ourselves.
Without knowing the original poster's intentions, it can be taken as a curious post, or elitist. All Vyndree did was point this out and ask to be careful.

Can't we all just get along? :P

Indeed -- while I may have misinterpreted the OP's post I'm finding more are misinterpreting mine. ;)

Let's just drop the issue while keeping in mind that it's hard to convey emotion over the internet -- so let's be extra careful we're not stepping on anyone's toes. Which was the whole intention of my first post. ;)

[Drizzit]

man/wife

wow... why couldn't it be female/husband? Sry, not yelling or angry. I know it sounds better like Mankind instead of humankind or like postman not postpeople, also husband/wife is just too long to say and type man = 3, husband = 7, female = 6, wife = 4. Anyways, i think that there might be more 10 boxers pretty soon and maybe even 25 boxers or a range from 10-25 boxers cause of the new expansion.

[Stabface]

<offtopic>
As far as why people are reading their own meanings into the opening question, it's partly because of the way the question is framed but really it's mostly because the OP didn't state any reason as to *why* they wants to know if anyone is multi-boxing more than 15 accounts.

I believe that for well formed communication on the internet, we should look back to Kipling's six honest men: Who, Where, How, Why, When and What. If a communication is formed such that these 6 honest men are present, there is left little room for mis-interpretation.
</offtopic>

I'm currently running 5 and will be upgrading to 10 at WotLK (2 Paladins 8 Shaman, might drop a Paladin for DK if they end up being easy & effective to tank with). I already ordered the software, and am leveling up 5 toons to transfer to new accounts, but since I don't see any good way to level 10 toons in parallel I'm not going to actually buy the new accounts until after I have them all leveled to 80. Which shouldn't take too long I hope.

15 sounds like an odd number, too many or not enough to raid. What do you do with 15 shaman?

[Drizzit]

The bad part about text on the internet, is that there is no sound for emphasis when reading other than what we put into it ourselves.

;( someone i dated dumped me cause of this. She said that i didn't get her sense of humor. I did get it but when iming someone it is hard to know if they are kidding. example of a message
me: so can i still come over tonight
her: no
me:why not
her: don't feel like seeing you
me: aaaaa... ok... what did i do wrong
her: don't feel like seeing you
me: fine
4 minutes later
her: omg i was jk

no smilies or anything to know if her was kidding. Yes i love sense of humor but cannot tell on im.

[Knobley]

We don't really see too many 2-3 boxers speak their mind on the forums,

<--- Three Boxer

[Talamarr]

me: so can i still come over tonight
me: so can i still come over tonight
her: no
me:why not
her: don't feel like seeing you
me: aaaaa... ok... what did i do wrong
her: don't feel like seeing you
me: fine
4 minutes later
her: omg i was jk

See, I would have been that way too. But, being 30 years old now, which means I now know everything (I thought I knew everything when I was a teenager and then again when i was 22 but I was mistaken then, NOW I know everything), the better thing to say would have been:

me: I'm coming over tonight. put something sexy on and have dinner ready.
/end conversation

[Talamarr]

<--- Three Boxer

I too partake in the Ménage à Boxing.

[Vyndree]

me: I'm coming over tonight. put something sexy on and have dinner ready.

Personally I'd find that somewhat offensive, but that's just me. ;) I mean, if you're inviting yourself over you'd better be prepared to make dinner for ME. ;)

Notice -- winky faces, winky faces. EMOTION ON TEH INTARWEB!

[Sam DeathWalker]

Bought one copy of battlechest from Frys for 29.99, ordered 10 more from Amazon for 29.99 each (free shipping) and one more from ebay. I'm coming ....

Dang Fry's they advertize unlimited amount for $34.99 on friday, then I go there today (add ends tues) and ask for 26 copies at $34.99 each. They say on Sunday they advertized it for $29.99 limit one so I say fine sell me one for $29.99 and 25 for $34.99. They say its illegal to sell for more then the advertized price. Pbbbtttt ...

As soon as I find some more copies at $29.99 Ill be logging all 26 in.

[Zub]

As soon as I find some more copies at $29.99 Ill be logging all 26 in.
And then you'll do what? ;-p

[Yamio]

<-----------------shulub that 3 boxes


Been 3 boxing since January and I am adding one more account this Friday. I have been looking forward to this like you wouldn't believe.

I am on vacation next week and I plan on getting some serious WoW time in. (Getting my wow on? Is that the cool way of putting that? I'm old and completely out of touch with the cool phrases anymore.) My woman is talking about going somewhere for our vacation but I've been hem-hawing her every suggestion. I've been saying it's due to money but you guys know that's not the real reason.

C'mon now! I'm adding a fourth toon to my team! I can't let some damn hotel somewhere on a lake, or seeing a touring Broadway show, or eating at a swanky restaurant, or checking out a Bed & Breakfast in a part of the country we've never seen before come inbetween me and my team. ;(

[Sam DeathWalker]

And then you'll do what? ;-p

Pwning and Ownzoring da Mobs to get da PHAT LOOTZ!

[Tasty]

Raiding all the major horde cities imo ;)

[Otlecs]

I hate to keep this thread sort of derailed (and I accept that I played my part in the initial derailing), but I can't resist...

I'd love to know more about what you're doing as a fifteen man team, and how you play them all yourself to good effect.

I have 5 accounts, my wife has 5 and a real-life friend who lives 5 minutes away has 5 too. We've long played together as an easy 5 man team (me 3xDPS / CC, wife tank, him healer), which is how they got hooked on boxing themselves.

What I'd like to see is more about what you do with your 15 characters. We have the WotLK ten man content in mind (their own teams should hit 70 just in time to continue through to 80!!), with an agreement to rotate roles and characters, but no idea what we can really hope to do with all 15, which is a bit of a strange number in WoW terms.

Do you have a blog? Any videos? Anything community-facing at all that I can drool over?

TIA,
Otlecs.

[lacitpo]

Pwning and Ownzoring da Mobs to get da PHAT LOOTZ!Sam, I'm really interested in how you end up setting this all up and leveling all those characters.

Have you sat down and played any wow yet. I know you've spent a LOT of time theorycrafting over class makups and spells and such but there were a lot of us (me included) who really thought you'd benefit way more from just spending a few days playing the game and really learning the mechanics of some classes? I'm gonna go find your first post but I have to ask. Have you settled on a setup yet? Have you changed your hardware setup?

[Maxion]

If he was interested in there were larger-scale boxers or what their experiences were, I'd have been happy to point him towards the two 20+ boxers who posted some photos of their rather elaborate rigs on this forum long ago.Was that the man/wife team who were running a guild/raid themselves? The ones who had the pictures of all of the boxes from the accounts they owned? I've always been curious about them, not much is known - or at least I don't know much. :)

Yepyep -- they basically ran their cables thru the wall to their computer room, with a bunch of shuttle PCs. I believe one was running 23, and the other 22.

I can try to dig up the thread... This was back when we were using the old forum software so any links I have now are probably dead.

EDIT: Here we go -- Gameslah's 50 Boxing Setup ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=498&pageNo=1')I believe it was revealed that this was a spoof of the setup/pictures, and that the computers and setup actually belonged to a company running (insert botting program here) on them.
Correct me if it was real.

[Bena]

For the techies .. what kind of net connection do you need to run 30 instances? is dsl cable enough?

[Vyndree]

I believe it was revealed that this was a spoof of the setup/pictures, and that the computers and setup actually belonged to a company running (insert botting program here) on them.
Correct me if it was real.

I haven't seen a source claiming this, honestly.

I took a closer look at their pictures and while they play in windowed mode ('http://www.gameslah.com/evolution/32box-8.jpg') (which is odd), they do have some photos that seem to clearly indicate software multiboxing was at work...
http://www.gameslah.com/20080131-Ops.jpg
(note the left hand side monitor -- 4 everquest/wow windows open?)

The story itself is consistent. You can see more "Reasonable number" of 'boxing going on in everquest on this page ('http://www.gameslah.com/evolution/iboxing.htm')

[Caspian]

me: so can i still come over tonight
me: so can i still come over tonight
her: no
me:why not
her: don't feel like seeing you
me: aaaaa... ok... what did i do wrong
her: don't feel like seeing you
me: fine
4 minutes later
her: omg i was jk

See, I would have been that way too. But, being 30 years old now, which means I now know everything (I thought I knew everything when I was a teenager and then again when i was 22 but I was mistaken then, NOW I know everything), the better thing to say would have been:

me: I'm coming over tonight. put something sexy on and have dinner ready.
/end conversationYeah, you think you know it all now, just wait until you are 33 like me. You will realize how little you did know when you were 30.

I go between boxing 2 and 5 for the most part but have 6 accounts available. /cheer for stealing your children's accounts (that are in your name and are not really stealing, it is completely legal, please don't yell at me)

ok someone older make me feel dumb now.

[Kulzor]

Caspian, just wait until you are 37, you'll find out that you are senile already (and won't know it, because others have to remind you of said fact). Doh!

I'm with the others above, I'm interested in know what activities you do that use 15 toons? 10 I can see, for you'd be able to run Kara or ZA. 25 I could see, if you could somehow run SSC or TK. But 15? I don't see the purpose to that number.

[Talamarr]

It's obvious why you would have 15; Attendance for 10 man raids. You have some extras in case some can't show up .... DUH!

[Caspian]

It's obvious why you would have 15; Attendance for 10 man raids. You have some extras in case some can't show up .... DUH!lol

[Mac]

It's obvious why you would have 15; Attendance for 10 man raids. You have some extras in case some can't show up .... DUH!lolActually not a bad point. Someone might want to switch out tanks, dps or heals for different fights and if they have the ability to do so.

[blast3r]

I have managed 40 odd trial accounts at the same time. Not really what you are going for though. Any beyond 10 starts to get into the "you can already WTF own entire groups so why bother with more" category as the micromanagement / need to gear up / annoyances of boxing increases substantially.

If I had the time and resources I would LOVE to say own Southshore by myself for a few hours. :)

[ImaHealer]

30 Boxing Shaman?

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9336514333&sid=1&pageNo=1

[Dooz]

Caspian, just wait until you are 37, you'll find out that you are senile already (and won't know it, because others have to remind you of said fact). Doh!

<---- 44, good lord, I guess i should take my ginko now... wait... why was i typing again.... hmmmm

[-silencer-]

I think i know why! Its an American thing isnt it. Anyone with more guns obviously has the louder voice, or something :xWe've had people from other countries ask the same damn question.. gtfo troll - fight with the french or something.