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Saight
08-03-2008, 02:30 PM
Hey all i am a newcomer here.

I played real wow before but it was getting bored . I always wanted to play other classes and several characters .So i decide to start with multiboxing at one machine with 5 accounts . And i asked myself if it is possible to play on my computer with 5 accounts . I already tried to play two WoW accounts and it was going very well . So my question is How do i need to start with it ? . Let me tell you a bit about my computer

PROCESSOR : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+
VIDEO CARD : NVIDEA GeForce 7900 GT
PHYSICAL MEMORY : 2047 MB
OPERATION SYSTEM : Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2)

And i got two Screens ---> SAMSUNG 19inch screen
---->PROVIEW 17ich screen

So my question is . What Hardware and Software i need to multi-box . I have read on this site that i nee Keyclone and alot of macros to handle it .If there is some one that can tell or help me a bit i would appreciate that .

Thank you for reading

tolaziforname
08-03-2008, 02:31 PM
That machine will not handle 5 wows.

2gb of ram is enough for 3, maybe 4.
That video card is VERY outdated and so that will be your biggest shortcoming.

Also, using two screens with one DVI / VGA port (where you plug in to your video card) will usually cap fps at 15 on the second monitor due to weird drivers.

keyclone
08-03-2008, 04:00 PM
G'afternoon Saight ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=User&userID=7416') and welcome to the forums!

your system looks fine.. but i would consider bumping your memory to 3gigs ... works better with 5 wows.

as for setting up, odds are good you would have your main on 1 screen (probably the 19") and the alts in a 2x2 configuration on the other using keyclone's built-in maximizer. this is how i play currently.

once you set up the maximizer layout and define your wow commands (make sure to set your maxfpsbk and maxfps... it really saves your cpu and gpu from unnecessary usage)... you'll be able to run all 5 of your wows by clicking a single button.

setting up keyclone is fairly simple and (normally) a time task. the rest of your set up is defining the macros in wow. you can get away with the basic /assist and /follow macros.. they work and it allows you to get up and running fiarly quick... where you'll start to understand multiboxing a bit more. somewhere when your 10..20, you may want to modify your macros... at that point, just let me know and i'll step you through a few.

(i usually don't recommend going for the big macros right away, as many people would get overwhelmed with new information.)

if you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note.

have a great day and welcome to the addiction,

Rob (keyclone developer)

:D

Saight
08-04-2008, 05:29 AM
G'afternoon Saight ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=User&userID=7416') and welcome to the forums!

your system looks fine.. but i would consider bumping your memory to 3gigs ... works better with 5 wows.

as for setting up, odds are good you would have your main on 1 screen (probably the 19") and the alts in a 2x2 configuration on the other using keyclone's built-in maximizer. this is how i play currently.

once you set up the maximizer layout and define your wow commands (make sure to set your maxfpsbk and maxfps... it really saves your cpu and gpu from unnecessary usage)... you'll be able to run all 5 of your wows by clicking a single button.

setting up keyclone is fairly simple and (normally) a time task. the rest of your set up is defining the macros in wow. you can get away with the basic /assist and /follow macros.. they work and it allows you to get up and running fiarly quick... where you'll start to understand multiboxing a bit more. somewhere when your 10..20, you may want to modify your macros... at that point, just let me know and i'll step you through a few.

(i usually don't recommend going for the big macros right away, as many people would get overwhelmed with new information.)

if you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note.

have a great day and welcome to the addiction,

Rob (keyclone developer)

:D
Thank you Rob for the infortmation . So i'll go to the computer shop and buy me some Ram memory and a new Video card probably. I let you know something when i will start with multi-boxing

Thank you!

Knapenburger
08-04-2008, 05:37 AM
It will handle 5...but..depends if you want 15fps or not.

bodefeld
08-04-2008, 06:05 AM
once you set up the maximizer layout and define your wow commands (make sure to set your maxfpsbk and maxfps... it really saves your cpu and gpu from unnecessary usage)

Oh yes.
After a new OS installation, I started playing again and wondered why all four CPU cores were at 100%... Then I realized that the five WoWs were running at 80ish FPS. I set it back to 15/45 in keyclone and the CPU usage went back to 45% (Q6600).

zero
08-04-2008, 11:21 AM
i dont get it how you all can get more than 15fps i am running only two copies of wow on one PC with 2x22"LCD and i get on main acc 11-15fps and the other lcd 20-22fps
my PC is
CPU intel quad core Q6600 2.4GHz
2gb ram
GPU 9600GT
2x22"LCD LG DVI
PSU 750W
3x750GB HDD
so how can i possible run 5copies when i am not able to get two working smothly???
what i am doing wrong???
the wow: maxfpsbk 15 maxfps 45 on both in keyclone.
anyone any suggestion???

keyclone
08-04-2008, 12:43 PM
@zero
check your wow graphical settings (link: http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Ingame_Graphic_Detail )

also, UNCHECK vertical sync in wow/video/settings

after that, check the sampling.. 24/16/1 are the numbers i use (i'm not at home to check wording here)

i would make all those changes to 1 wow... exit to save.. then start all my wows up, hopefully with the new settings (unless you have multiple directories, in which case you'll have to set each individuallly)

also, watch your screen resolution. higher == more pixels == more work for the graphics board

let me know if any of that helps.

good luck,

Rob

zero
08-04-2008, 01:29 PM
@zero
check your wow graphical settings (link: http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Ingame_Graphic_Detail )

also, UNCHECK vertical sync in wow/video/settings

after that, check the sampling.. 24/16/1 are the numbers i use (i'm not at home to check wording here)

i would make all those changes to 1 wow... exit to save.. then start all my wows up, hopefully with the new settings (unless you have multiple directories, in which case you'll have to set each individuallly)

also, watch your screen resolution. higher == more pixels == more work for the graphics board

let me know if any of that helps.

good luck,

Rob

well i am running it like this http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7956/p8040026og2.jpg not sure if you can see the pic and hope is not too big
two different folders
i did as you said also, UNCHECK vertical sync in wow/video/settings

after that, check the sampling.. 24/16/1
and now are both windows on 15fps in SC the screen ressolutions are 1680x1050

keyclone
08-04-2008, 03:02 PM
setting the maxfpsbk to 15 is fine...

but what is the maxfps on each?

and what is the fps on the active and inactive wows?

zero
08-04-2008, 03:33 PM
setting the maxfpsbk to 15 is fine...

but what is the maxfps on each?

and what is the fps on the active and inactive wows?

as i wrote on the post before prewious the wow: maxfpsbk 15 maxfps 45 on both in keyclone.

and after you said what to set up in wow/video/settings now is 15fps in active and 15 on the inactive window

phetish
08-04-2008, 05:16 PM
I'm currently running 5 wow's on a AMD BE-2300 (2x 2.1G procs) and a HD2600xt

using the Lo-res macro, setting Maxfps to 15, and disabling the audio on slaves gives me about 25-30 FPS on my "main" - but about 10fps in cities :(

Upgrading to 4GB ram did very little for my FPS so i'm guessing my proc is the bottleneck at this point.

-silencer-
08-04-2008, 05:29 PM
setting the maxfpsbk to 15 is fine...

but what is the maxfps on each?

and what is the fps on the active and inactive wows?

as i wrote on the post before prewious the wow: maxfpsbk 15 maxfps 45 on both in keyclone.

and after you said what to set up in wow/video/settings now is 15fps in active and 15 on the inactive window
I wouldn't be surprised if the fps hit you're seeing is due to splitting your video to both displays. I have the same issue with my 8800GTX going to two monitors - the fps is far less than when I had 5 WoW windows on one monitor. I tested a 2nd videocard, having one monitor per videocard, and it worked MUCH better.

keyclone
08-04-2008, 08:32 PM
@zero
are you in horizontal span or dual view? swap and check to see if your fps changes

also, consider dropping your multisampling... i use 24/16/1 .. you could try something lower
(lower should == better fps)

zero
08-05-2008, 03:54 PM
@zero
are you in horizontal span or dual view? swap and check to see if your fps changes

also, consider dropping your multisampling... i use 24/16/1 .. you could try something lower
(lower should == better fps)

well i was on the dualview so i give a try to the horizontal span and it worked perfectly i nearly get tears in my eyes from happynes having 45fps on the main window and 20fps on the alt window in SC rob and all of you thank you soooooooooooooooo much
to be honest i dont like the look of XP desktop on horizontal span like it better on dualview but i am pretty sure i can get use to it;'-))))

thank you all again ;-) and sorry for my gramar...