My Epic fail

[Nepida]

Gear makes a huge difference, I went from being farmable by 1 rogue with clos and cheat death to ignoring them because they are such a small threat (well I usually kill them as revenge heh)

[BobGnarly]

I don't have any 4xlock experience, but I do have some general lock experience that might help.

I would definitely recommend going some sort of demo spec. Felguard is really a great under-geared spec, and it pretty simple (so good for multiboxing). I disagree that SL/SL would be too hard, so that's an option too for more survivability (but less dmg). Personally, I'd go with Felguard.

Given your dru/rog matchup, ya, that's going to be tough. Honestly, any healer backed team is going to be tough for you because you lack burst. However, CoS and trinkets aside, neither of those classes really has an answer for fear, and you have TONS of them. This is where careful macro management would pay off (being able to have certain locks fear on focus, others on target for example). But really, without gear, this is going to be a loss.

For the pve side, I'm sorry, but no tank really makes that tough. If you have an 70 tank you can sub in for a lock, it'd be a great group tho.

[Bradster]

Thanks all for the words of encouragement. Well, I think the first thing I’ll do is spec Felguard like some suggested. I tried this spec, but at the wrong time at level 52. Before he got all the goodies to work with. I’ll do that, farm a bit for some gold here and there. After that I’m pretty much finished with them I’ve decided. Perhaps In the future I’ll 10 box and use them.

I enjoy pvp and all, but I extremely hate the BG grind. I’m willing to do it, but not with a gear reset coming up soon (Xpac). At 80 I’ll do the grind. Mean time I’ll get a pally caught up to my shamans that are level 17. Then start running around from there leveling.
Now that I have experience leveling a full group from 1 to 70 I should do it much faster this time around. I am kind of excited about playing a prot pally, not so much the 4 shamans. In my heart I’ve always been melee, that and I LOVE tanking. Any game I always enjoy the tank role. So there’s two things I have to look forward too.

I already leveled a pally to 8 last night. Would have been higher but I rerolled. I first tried a male, didn’t like many things about it, and tried a female happy with that. Can only select Blood Elfs if you want to be a pally, what’s up with that!

I have a question regarding the shamans and the level grind. I noticed that going the elemental route these guys run out of mana quite fast. Does the efficiency improve later? Is there something that helps (other than a vending machine)?

[Stormweasel]

If I were in your situation, I would be running 10 Arenas a week to bag your points on the 70s and when youre not doing that, get levelling a tank either by questing or boosting. Just what Id do.

It will open up more things for you to do both now and in the expansion. I would feel at a loose end in PvP right now if I just hit 70, multiboxing or not - while on one hand, you want the gear to stop etting slaughtered, on the other hand the expansions coming and you cant help knowing youre grinding towards a gear reset.

Under the circumstances I can only think that having a tank available will enhance your multiboxing options now and for a long time to come. Bank a tank is my advice!

But of course, your time your choice

Edit to add - I do realise that youve come back from a long break after hitting a bit of a funk with the levelling process. So having just hit 70, realising you might need something more and having someone say "Hey dude just roll a tank".......well, I can see why it might sound like glib advice. But if you can stomach the level again, it might be a way forward.

Edit 2 - having just read your last post PROPERLY, I realise my post is completely redundant. YAY!!! 8o

[Anozireth]

I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this, but a great way to solve the tank problem in the short term is to just make friends with a good one. I find my instance runs are much easier and more enjoyable when I don't have to worry about tanking.

[Lokked]

To reiterate a portion of my post, and in agreement with an above poster, I would still play 10 arenas per week to get the points.

You just can't beat the virtually free epics.

[JoeWunsch]

Go farm some pvp gear for a while bro.

In 7 weeks, I took my shamans from 6700 hp to almost 11k Hp unbuffed.

Also you should be doing 10 arena games a week, win or lose, you will get a free S3 piece every 5 weeks.

[Esquilo]

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Thanks all for the words of encouragement. Well, I think the first thing I’ll do is spec Felguard like some suggested. I tried this spec, but at the wrong time at level 52. Before he got all the goodies to work with. I’ll do that, farm a bit for some gold here and there. After that I’m pretty much finished with them I’ve decided. Perhaps In the future I’ll 10 box and use them.

I enjoy pvp and all, but I extremely hate the BG grind. I’m willing to do it, but not with a gear reset coming up soon (Xpac). At 80 I’ll do the grind. Mean time I’ll get a pally caught up to my shamans that are level 17. Then start running around from there leveling.
Now that I have experience leveling a full group from 1 to 70 I should do it much faster this time around. I am kind of excited about playing a prot pally, not so much the 4 shamans. In my heart I’ve always been melee, that and I LOVE tanking. Any game I always enjoy the tank role. So there’s two things I have to look forward too.

I already leveled a pally to 8 last night. Would have been higher but I rerolled. I first tried a male, didn’t like many things about it, and tried a female happy with that. Can only select Blood Elfs if you want to be a pally, what’s up with that!

I have a question regarding the shamans and the level grind. I noticed that going the elemental route these guys run out of mana quite fast. Does the efficiency improve later? Is there something that helps (other than a vending machine)?

The mana issue will get better, but not till about 40. I leveled a Shaman solo from 1-70 in 2 weeks as enhancement and only died a few times doing all questing. I'd try running all 5 as melee just to get leveled up, enhancement shammies have good, fast dps and 4 would be like a buzz saw

[BobGnarly]

I have a question regarding the shamans and the level grind. I noticed that going the elemental route these guys run out of mana quite fast. Does the efficiency improve later? Is there something that helps (other than a vending machine)?

Two things about playing this group from a mana utilization PoV.

1- Yes, it gets better. First, I always run BoW on my shaman. It's even better than kings for them, as they do want to burn a lot of mana. Second, I took Unrelenting Storm (talent) as soon as I hit 30 and it helps a ton. Between these two things, the mana is much better.

2- When I was running 5 shaman early, it was a "nuke-nuke-nuke-dead-drink" type of playstyle. Once I brought my existing paladin into the fold, I rethought my playstyle a little to use the strengths of that class (aoe tanking mainly). This means, rather than find one target and burn it down quick, I drop a lot of totems and round up a bunch with my paly, and let the aoe totems and paly reflective dmg do the dmg (with a c-lighting thrown in here and there). This is probably a little slower than you could go burning stuff down, but if you do it right it's zero downtime, and I find it preferable to be doing something (not waiting to drink) the entire time I'm playing.

So yeah, it'll get better, and you might find a slight adaptation to your approach helps a little too.

[Bradster]

I have a question regarding the shamans and the level grind. I noticed that going the elemental route these guys run out of mana quite fast. Does the efficiency improve later? Is there something that helps (other than a vending machine)?

Two things about playing this group from a mana utilization PoV.

1- Yes, it gets better. First, I always run BoW on my shaman. It's even better than kings for them, as they do want to burn a lot of mana. Second, I took Unrelenting Storm (talent) as soon as I hit 30 and it helps a ton. Between these two things, the mana is much better.

2- When I was running 5 shaman early, it was a "nuke-nuke-nuke-dead-drink" type of playstyle. Once I brought my existing paladin into the fold, I rethought my playstyle a little to use the strengths of that class (aoe tanking mainly). This means, rather than find one target and burn it down quick, I drop a lot of totems and round up a bunch with my paly, and let the aoe totems and paly reflective dmg do the dmg (with a c-lighting thrown in here and there). This is probably a little slower than you could go burning stuff down, but if you do it right it's zero downtime, and I find it preferable to be doing something (not waiting to drink) the entire time I'm playing.

So yeah, it'll get better, and you might find a slight adaptation to your approach helps a little too.

Cool thanks for the tactic tips!