Thinking of 25 boxing WoW - Not sure about a lot of things

[Draz]

Never have and never will visit or even look at the WoW-forums. Please get off your high horse, if anyone seems to be a bnet tard, it is you.

i see that the more popular boxing gets, the more people migrate over here from the wow forums. i suppose it was only a matter of time till the community here degraded to that level.

[Jezebel]

i wasnt speaking to you. which is why i didnt quote you. dont bother speaking to me again.

Never have and never will visit or even look at the WoW-forums. Please get off your high horse, if anyone seems to be a bnet tard, it is you.

[samfan]

i see that the more popular boxing gets, the more people migrate over here from the wow forums. i suppose it was only a matter of time till the community here degraded to that level.

Is that like stating the obvious in order to sound masterful?

I have no idea of the rest of the community, but Sam Deathwalker is the quintessential boxer, and predates this forum and even WoW by quite a few years. So if your perceptions are limited to this thread, you're incorrect, since it has been posted on many forums that Sam has finally made the leap to WoW.

Even the June 30, 2007 thread from Xzin in Elitist Jerks (which is the first time I heard about this community) has posts about Sam:

For those of you who may have missed it (be glad you did), Sam was active around 2003-2005ish on some of the popular EQ message boards of the time. He played on one of the PvP servers that EQ had (even though EQ's PvP was so broken I refused to play on a PvP server). He had a tendency to boast about his "accomplishments". As in challenge people to see who had the highest burst dps (uhh 6 casters vs 1 person?) or how many thousands of people he killed/owned whatever. I am all for being confident in your abilities but Sam took things a bit.... too far in my opinion. What really highlighted Sam's appearance in the early EQ PvP scene was his online photo gallery shots.

You see, he openly admitted to hiring hookers. He then intentionally posted pictures of said hookers to his online photo galleries. He would have them write on whiteboards about how long he could go for, etc. It was.... weird. I mean, personally if that is his thing then thats fine. Just.... keep it to yourself? Plus - the guy looked a bit.... unkempt? His outfits were a bit out there and combined with his computer setup.... things just got weird.

Then there was his physical setup. It looked like he raided Home Depot and hacked it together with chains and wood and bolts. He basically made a bed, and suspended his monitors in front of him. The idea made logical sense but keep in mind this was the early 2000s - so flat panels were EXPENSIVE. So he used CRTs. That weighed something like 30 lbs each. The whole thing together was just.... amazing. And amazingly weird. Perhaps if he had made it professionally, it would have looked pretty decent - but he just sorta hacked it together from what the pictures showed. Most other WoW setups I have seen have been far more professionally done.

Now, I may not be one to argue seeing as my setup is pretty massive. I mean honestly, I am getting ready to 10 box. But I don't feel the need to epeen war about it. Plus, my setup is professional and very well done. I intend to write about it as soon as I finish the last few parts.

So yeah - Sam was quite the character. Not sure if having him associated with multiboxing is a good thing or not though. I try to bring a level of professionalism to this hobby. To Sam..... I am not entirely sure what it was really nor do I know if he is even still playing EQ or not. If so, I sincerely hope he has figured out a way to control his characters in PvP better. He died a lot in EQ PvP from what I understood - although to his credit he was getting better at PvE from the last that I heard.

So, I'm not entirely sure what the focus of your sweeping generalizations were, but you're catering to probably the most obnoxious not-a-troll-but-genuinely-insane person because you felt that somehow he validates your community's "achievements." In fact, most people I know think of boxing and SAM DA MAN as one in the same, just at a different degree. Never mind that someone already 23 boxed WoW (and could probably handle more since his setup was 23x2, 46 boxes). We're talking 25 here.



Behold, beware.

[Wilbur]

I dont know much about EQ but I do know plenty about wow and I'm surprised no one is setting sam straight on all this. You will not be aoe leveling in any way shape or form to an effective degree, you will not be honor grinding spawn points or anything of the sort. You have one option only and that is to level a single 5 man group at a time.

Sam, every idea you have posted in this thread leads me to believe you need to play a single toon, even if its only for a few weeks of hardcore and then you will have a better understanding of the possibilities of boxing in wow.

QFT. Learn the game first before you decide how you are going to do everything. Also you said you are gonna be putting 5 chars per PC. What specs are they? You said you aren't going to use software, obviously you dont have a clue what we are talking about when we say "software" :P

[samfan]

i wasnt speaking to you. which is why i didnt quote you. dont bother speaking to me again.

Never have and never will visit or even look at the WoW-forums. Please get off your high horse, if anyone seems to be a bnet tard, it is you.

You didn't quote anyone, so therefore you mustn't have been speaking to anyone?



Anyway, here is the audience you are defending:

[Wilbur]

I'm surprised he decided to switch to WoW. What with the US property market being what it is.

[badashh]

Holy Crap that guy's my landlord. I thought he just wore the codpiece when he picked up rent.

[Wilbur]

Gentlemen, good evening.

[Toned]

i see that the more popular boxing gets, the more people migrate over here from the wow forums. i suppose it was only a matter of time till the community here degraded to that level.

Is that like stating the obvious in order to sound masterful?

I have no idea of the rest of the community, but Sam Deathwalker is the quintessential boxer, and predates this forum and even WoW by quite a few years. So if your perceptions are limited to this thread, you're incorrect, since it has been posted on many forums that Sam has finally made the leap to WoW.

Even the June 30, 2007 thread from Xzin in Elitist Jerks (which is the first time I heard about this community) has posts about Sam:

For those of you who may have missed it (be glad you did), Sam was active around 2003-2005ish on some of the popular EQ message boards of the time. He played on one of the PvP servers that EQ had (even though EQ's PvP was so broken I refused to play on a PvP server). He had a tendency to boast about his "accomplishments". As in challenge people to see who had the highest burst dps (uhh 6 casters vs 1 person?) or how many thousands of people he killed/owned whatever. I am all for being confident in your abilities but Sam took things a bit.... too far in my opinion. What really highlighted Sam's appearance in the early EQ PvP scene was his online photo gallery shots.

You see, he openly admitted to hiring hookers. He then intentionally posted pictures of said hookers to his online photo galleries. He would have them write on whiteboards about how long he could go for, etc. It was.... weird. I mean, personally if that is his thing then thats fine. Just.... keep it to yourself? Plus - the guy looked a bit.... unkempt? His outfits were a bit out there and combined with his computer setup.... things just got weird.

Then there was his physical setup. It looked like he raided Home Depot and hacked it together with chains and wood and bolts. He basically made a bed, and suspended his monitors in front of him. The idea made logical sense but keep in mind this was the early 2000s - so flat panels were EXPENSIVE. So he used CRTs. That weighed something like 30 lbs each. The whole thing together was just.... amazing. And amazingly weird. Perhaps if he had made it professionally, it would have looked pretty decent - but he just sorta hacked it together from what the pictures showed. Most other WoW setups I have seen have been far more professionally done.

Now, I may not be one to argue seeing as my setup is pretty massive. I mean honestly, I am getting ready to 10 box. But I don't feel the need to epeen war about it. Plus, my setup is professional and very well done. I intend to write about it as soon as I finish the last few parts.

So yeah - Sam was quite the character. Not sure if having him associated with multiboxing is a good thing or not though. I try to bring a level of professionalism to this hobby. To Sam..... I am not entirely sure what it was really nor do I know if he is even still playing EQ or not. If so, I sincerely hope he has figured out a way to control his characters in PvP better. He died a lot in EQ PvP from what I understood - although to his credit he was getting better at PvE from the last that I heard.

So, I'm not entirely sure what the focus of your sweeping generalizations were, but you're catering to probably the most obnoxious not-a-troll-but-genuinely-insane person because you felt that somehow he validates your community's "achievements." In fact, most people I know think of boxing and SAM DA MAN as one in the same, just at a different degree. Never mind that someone already 23 boxed WoW (and could probably handle more since his setup was 23x2, 46 boxes). We're talking 25 here.



Behold, beware.

I was 6 boxing EQ back when Vallon Zek first launched in Aug99... I played EQ up untill nov2005 when I moved over to WoW at the time I was 18 boxing, and never heard of Sam untill some one linked a post on the wow forums late last year. I've seen his stuff and it looks like he knew what he was doing for EQ.

EQ and WoW are totally different when it comes to game mechanics and multi-boxing. 5 computers with 5 accounts on each will work but you will need a mix of hardware / software, or just all software. There is no way of sending multiple commands to multiple clients on 1 machine without a software like keyclone/etc... If you are using no software what so ever you would have TONS of wires everywhere and 25 individual machines, reading the post I've seen you have great theorycrafting, but you have an EQ mindset.

Experience the game a little bit and go from there I don't doubt you when you say you are going to 25 box, but start doing it and then post. So we can help / comment on what you're doing instead of going off what you are "thinking" of doing. Because the plan sounds great but it will change drastically when you really set it up. I personally side with the people that say make 5 paladins and get them to 70 and power lvl that way, or the people that say level 1 char to 70 so you understand the game, but whatever works.

[zanthor]

What I love is that some folks are talking like the dual-boxing.com community has no idea who Sam Deathwalker is... he's been a member since near the begining, he's posted here and there about EQ and boxing in general, and has contributed a fair amount to the community.

So he's an odd one, so he's proud he's an odd one, who gives a FSCK.

The man wants to try WoW, he's got some ideas that will work, others that wont, and some that simply can't be answered because no ones tried it. I'd wager that Xzin got a lot of similar crap when he first mentioned the concept, and I'm sure the guy from Team Wizzy did as well... I've had my own friends tell me you can't do that, it won't work... then they watch me do it... and behold, sometimes they are right and I die horribly and painfully... other times, victory is mine.

All said and done, I'd really rather deal with someone like Sam who knows who they are and is comfortable enough to be proud of it than someone who's entire existance in the forums is to badmouth someone else.

I think a LOT of people in this thread need to read:
Community Guidelines - Read Before Posting