Thinking of 25 boxing WoW - Not sure about a lot of things

[Tonuss]

It depends on the server. There are some servers where being "famous" will draw large groups out to cause as much grief as they can. However, there's a difference between wanting to grief the local 3-boxer and wanting to grief the local 25-boxer. A lot of players who would otherwise join in may decide not to bother because they're not interested in being repeatedly flattened while they wait for enough reinforcements to arrive.

Just gotta try it and see.

And I agree that a paladin may prove to be the better tank, they seem to be able to keep aggro on multiple mobs with less effort. Warriors have a number of abilities that they need to use repeatedly in order to keep a mob on them. For a paladin you just cycle through one or two and you should be okay. Plus you can bubble the character that takes aggro from you and you have another one-button-taunt ability as well.

[Sanctume]

Protection specced Warriors with appropriate gear are the best Boss Encounter tanks in the game. They have the best damage mitigation vs. single targets, and the largest and most versatile array of tools for tanking, which includes threat generating tools such as Revenge, Shield Slam and multiple taunts, many mitigation abilities, and finally a few panic buttons like Shield Wall and Last Stand. The only problem area for warrior tanks is aggro generation, particularly their initial aggro generation is lower. In long fights, all three main tank types actually create comparable amounts of aggro. Finally, Warriors depend more on their gear than any other class (this can also be a boon, because a warrior can increase his abilities further than the other classes with better gear).


http://www.wowwiki.com/Tank

Let me read more about the DK. Im not so sure about agro Ill be killing things kinda fasts anyways. For pvp warrior has the best damage mitigation also I assume.

Read again, "Finally, Warriors depend more on their gear than any other class" -- this is the most overused bs I often read about class, being more/most gear dependent.

Every tanking class have certain talent trees that improves that particular role. Likewise, a Paladin Tank can also be gear dependent in order to be that role.

I think when it comes to Raid progressions, it is "easier" to gear the Warrior main tank to survive and tank said raid content. It "was" that way in the beginning of WoW because the raid concepts came from EQ. The Paladin tank class has evolved and although has a "little less" mitigation than a warrior, offers other utilities.

Last Stand from a warrior can now be obtained from gear such as the PvP trinket that mimics the Last Stand skill.

Shield Wall is a nice ability on demand, but the Paladin tank has a similar talent called Ardent Defender (it's passive, and scales as your paladin gained more health). Maybe you should check out the Talent Calculator for tanking classes.

Taunt and agro has little to do with PvP. Those "oh shit" abilities such as Last Stand and Shield wall are ok in PvP but if our warrior is focused fires, those skill my not be enough to buy you time to react. The paladin's "oh shit" abilties are much better in PvP: invulnerable bubble every 5 minutes (wtf is that invulnerable cleric spell again?), and Lay on Hand (complete heal + some mana) every hour (less with talents)

[d0z3rr]

There's too much talking in this thread, not enough doing. You could theory craft for weeks, but its really a waste of time. Just go do it!

[Sanctume]

There's too much talking in this thread, not enough doing. You could theory craft for weeks, but its really a waste of time. Just go do it!

Do what? He rolls his 2nd idea of warrior priest 3x mages, only to find out he loses agro after the first volley of fireballs--and realized the merit of what a paladin tank can bring to the table: front loading of threat + salvation?

[Sam DeathWalker]

Ya really I am hot to get started but there are so many good ideas that I havnt settled on anything yet ... Let me read up on palidens again.

Is there any STRONG agrument against going 24 of the 33/0/38 or 34/0/37 Shamans besided they have to be still to cast heals?

OK here is a 0/54/17 build for a Prot Paliden

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...00000000000000

This stops you creating a 5 man group - with a 20 man raid behind them (but not grouped with them), the 5 man group taps it, the 20 man raid also opens and you kill the mob with 25, distributing the XP from the mob kill to just 5. Or more simply, having a mate run around with their level 70 ripping up the boars after you tag them on your level 10. I'm fairly sure in this case, your XP gain (on the level 10) is based on the percentage damage done to the mob. If the level 70 was in the group, you would receive a percentage of the kill based on your level difference to your party members. The 70 would take most of the quota (and not actually get any XP due to the calculations done afterwards) and your 10 would gain an amount.

If all 25 are at the same level the tagger group gets ALL the exp with no penalty.

My plan is to keep everyone at the same level, and not boost.

[raz]

Do what? He rolls his 2nd idea of warrior priest 3x mages, only to find out he loses agro after the first volley of fireballs--and realized the merit of what a paladin tank can bring to the table: front loading of threat + salvation?

Remember Salvation is no more come Wrath. Pallies will still be nice because of the replacement which is a castable instant threat/damage reduction making pallies IMO still the best choice for a multiboxing tank, but there will be some things that are quite different come wrath.

[Bradster]

Sam,

I recommend you at least single box to 70 first. Just to get a feel for the game and understand it. What if you find out you don't like it? That's a pretty big investment. On top of that the things you would learn on the way may help you define the "Perfect setup" in your eyes. Where as after allready putting in the grind you find out the hardway and have to do another group.

I'm just saying it doesn't hurt to test the waters first.

Also just wondering why wow? Your and EQ guy I figured you'd pop on up EQ2 some day

[Sam DeathWalker]

I kinda thinking everyone is right and going with 25 shamy (5 each computer) and if you go with shammy then Paliden (1 on 6th computer) is best tank (warrior might be better with mages).

Im only getting 6 month at a time subscriptions if I dont like it, its chump change to me. EQ I have to buy 2 years at a time.

And Keyclone looks ftw. Just hopeing autofollow dosnt break when lol I can put the Pal on the 6th computer by himself that way none autofollow will be on same computer. I can then 26 box. Wow with just one client on the 6th computer I can play in max everything full resolution and everything humm ... wow how nice ... and Ill have no lag control of the Pal. Then I can turn off all the effects on the 5 computers with 5 clients ...

Some of my guys in eq have 280 days played so Im not worried about this "16 hours a day" stuffs.

Not going to EQ2 cause WoW has 62 players for every 1 in EQ - a lot have heard of me from AoK (age of kings) and EQ, but how many have not heard of me ...

[Bradster]

Not going to EQ2 cause WoW has 62 players for every 1 in EQ - a lot have heard of me from AoK (age of kings) and EQ, but how many have not heard of me ...

If that’s the reason, for the highest population to be an E-Celebrity I highly recommend going with the pink Loincloth. It will identify the quality and seriousness of your intentions.

Edit:Just one thing, with your previous E-fame I ask you not repeat some of the things you have done in the past here. I’d hate to see you ruin it for all of us, or at least paint that image for other multi-boxers. I’ll leave it at "you know what I’m talking about".

[Sam DeathWalker]

Rats I was going to go Dranie but they are allience bleh.

Looks like Troll Females for the Shaman and Blood Elf Male Paliden for tank ...