BRD ...

[Mac]

btw, just found out Grizzle in Ring of the Law is immune to LB & CL ...

[Mac]

OK, so its been a looooooooong time since I have done this part of BRD. I forgot how this works, so I had to look it up on wowwiki however, the thing that was different from the description is, at some point in me entering the bar three anvilrage officers and a fireguard came in through the back door and just stood there in front of it.

I gave Private Rocknot his drinks, and jumped over the walls to be on the ramp between the two floors of the bar, he busted the kegs and Phalinx ran over to the door... where the anvilrage officers where.... so, now I had 5 leets to get through to get out the door. There was no mention of the officers and fireguard in wowwiki. I had done the quest to get the recipie so I wondered if thats what spawned them, I do remember them doing a /y something about investigating a disturbance, so I was thinking thats what brought them out.

So, i figured I'd kill the big guy first, and did, and got the fireguard before I wiped because of ads. I seems that when I dropped my totems on the ramp, the crowd on the tables to the left of the ramp came too.

I came back and went for the remaining officers, and found out the 4 leet chicks dancing on the table by the door also pull when you pull the officers ( no i didn't use CL to pull), so I got another officer down, before I wiped again to the adds. At this point, I was getting tired of dying, so I rezed and this time ran past the last officer, and just killed him when I got on the ramp on the outside of the door, but wiped again do to all the adds comming again... so, buy this time my ahnks where in cd. I could not die anymore.. I got all the way to the The Lyceum before I got over run by all those little guys respawning all over me , and by this time it was late and decided to go to bed.

So, questions:

Is the officer spawn at the back door a result of the recipie quest? If so, how did you get past it?

[Mac]

Ok, As I said, Its been a long time since I went through here. I really don't even remember this part, and now I'm wondering if I ever actually did it at all when I was first coming up through here, I think I did, but can't remember it, i guess the Alzheimers is setting in early..

Anyway, I can't seem to find a strat on this place. I think I understand that I need to get some torches from some guys in here and light the flames to get the doors open to the next boss Magmus. However, when I went in here, I got over-run by the guys that just kept respawning on me, they where easy to kill, but I didn't have any time to sit and drink and eventually ran oom and died, they just kept respawning all around me.

Any suggestions how to deal with this room?

[tzibo]

So, questions:

Is the officer spawn at the back door a result of the recipie quest? If so, how did you get past it?

I did this the other night - Ribbley and the Thunderbrew recipe. Neither spawned the guards. I just bought the fella his beers, and then waited on the ramp for the Phalanx, pulled that to the corner, squished it and then went through the broken door. I'll have to have a look to see what causes the guards to appear. I know killing the barman aggros the bar (all those years ago after the barman shanker), but I can't for the life of me remember what triggers the guards. Prolly talking to someone. But yeah. be careful with your totems in there - earth bind totems for example will aggro them (like the beetles in ZF).

Ok, As I said, Its been a long time since I went through here. I really don't even remember this part, and now I'm wondering if I ever actually did it at all when I was first coming up through here, I think I did, but can't remember it, i guess the Alzheimers is setting in early..

Anyway, I can't seem to find a strat on this place. I think I understand that I need to get some torches from some guys in here and light the flames to get the doors open to the next boss Magmus. However, when I went in here, I got over-run by the guys that just kept respawning on me, they where easy to kill, but I didn't have any time to sit and drink and eventually ran oom and died, they just kept respawning all around me.

Any suggestions how to deal with this room?

Gah - I tried this at the end of my run last night. I wasn't looking forward to it and I wasn't disappointed. I tried just steaming along, dropping magma totems. It worked for a while, but I couldn't find a flame keeper and then got overrun. It'd have been nice to have cleared BRD, but without some proper aoe it's an ass .

[Mac]

I'll have to have a look to see what causes the guards to appear. I know killing the barman aggros the bar (all those years ago after the barman shanker)

Yeah, dropping the beers on the ground to pull the guys from the bar and bustin the kegs to get the recipe is about all I could remember

[Neogeo]

How to get through that door was like the ONE thing I didnt get in WoW back when I was running BRD with my paladin (had to get the stupid 0.5 tier gloves from the last boss). Tonight I will get there with my 5 x lvl 55 Shaman-team so I better read up, since there is noone who can open the door foor me.

[tzibo]

How to get through that door was like the ONE thing I didnt get in WoW back when I was running BRD with my paladin (had to get the stupid 0.5 tier gloves from the last boss). Tonight I will get there with my 5 x lvl 55 Shaman-team so I better read up, since there is noone who can open the door foor me.

If that's all you need, it's easy sauce. Just buy some of the Blackrock Ale from Plugger Spazzring and then speak to Private Rocknot (he should have a ! on him when you hover. After a few goes at the quest (2-3) he'll get a bit boisterous and set off towards the big kegs demanding more ale. At that point get yourself over to the ramp and wait for him to get to the last keg. He'll shake it quite a bit, and it'll burst, covering some patrons who get a bit annoyed. That causes the Phalanx to break the door and go red, so you can pull him into the corner, kill and then just walk through the door. The rest of the bar should remain neutral, so just watch with totems.

[Mac]

I ran through the grim guzzler again last night and just bought the guy some suds and no guards showed up. So it must have been me doing the recipie quest first that caused the guards to show up.

As for the Lyceum, I wiped again and couldn't make it back because I got gf agro and had to get out of combat with her before I could continue. By the time I ran back everything on the way there had respawned so I said f*k it and went to bed. I did get that core frag so that was a nice little 10k xp pop.

I found a strat on wowwiki that said to follow the right wall around to the braziers(sp), I did that the first time and it didn't work for me. This time I tried to run up the middle and dodge the pats but I was not successful either. I'm trying to figure out the balance between moving forward without aggroing too many, and staying still long enough to drink and not get caught in the respawn of the group I just killed( 30 secs). Guess I'll try to run the wall again.

I was thinking, ok, maybe another level and I'll have it, then I think, wait, damn some have done this at 54 or earlier ??? oh well, I never claimed to be good at this but I am inspired by those that are.

[Ghallo]

Mac, you shouldn't beat yourself up too badly. Some instances are just HARD. Everyone has a different setup and a different play style (and group composition will make some fights nearly impossible while others are trivial). That being said - my best advice on the Lyceum is to first find the torch bearers. Nothing is as important as finding them. I stay out of Aggro range (at the entry) until I can find some way to ID them (I think WoWWiki has a map of where they spawn. If you are doing an All Shammy group you may want to set Fire Nova totems down ... then run forward, grab a TON of guys and run back to the totems so they explode on the guys. I had 2 mages and Holy Nova on my priest ... so this fight was pretty trivial for me - I don't know how hard it'll be for you without the AoE. I guess keep spamming Lightning shield on your guys and keep them moving until you get the torch and then get to the platform. If you stand on the near edge of the platform you can usually keep out of aggro range of respawns (which gives you a chance to rest and get your bearings for the next torch).

Good luck, and if you end up there until you're 60, so what? The idea is to have fun with your crew... not give up in frustration

[Mac]

Mac, you shouldn't beat yourself up too badly. Some instances are just HARD. Everyone has a different setup and a different play style (and group composition will make some fights nearly impossible while others are trivial). That being said - my best advice on the Lyceum is to first find the torch bearers. Nothing is as important as finding them. I stay out of Aggro range (at the entry) until I can find some way to ID them (I think WoWWiki has a map of where they spawn. If you are doing an All Shammy group you may want to set Fire Nova totems down ... then run forward, grab a TON of guys and run back to the totems so they explode on the guys. I had 2 mages and Holy Nova on my priest ... so this fight was pretty trivial for me - I don't know how hard it'll be for you without the AoE. I guess keep spamming Lightning shield on your guys and keep them moving until you get the torch and then get to the platform. If you stand on the near edge of the platform you can usually keep out of aggro range of respawns (which gives you a chance to rest and get your bearings for the next torch).

Good luck, and if you end up there until you're 60, so what? The idea is to have fun with your crew... not give up in frustration

Thanks, I didn't mean to be sounding like I was QQ'in and beating myself up, dispite how it might look, I am having a blast doing this. I'm just looking for ideas that I hadn't thought of yet to deal with these issues as they come up and I find myself struggling with it. Our multibox single class x5 set ups sometimes lack the tools available to a normal mixed class group, so I figure the best place to have a conversation about it is here. I'm not skilled enough at this to attempt a multi class set up yet, so until I decide to tackle that, I'm just pressing on with these guys!

I was keeping LS up, and dropping novas which didn't kill all of them so then I was having to shock and CL when it was up to clean up the remainders. Then I tried dropping magma 1st to get them low on hp and then nova because of the cd on nova, and that seemed to work , but then I was in one place too long and just got over run. I re-red the wiki page after they wiped last night and made a /tar macro to find those little bastards, hopefully it will go better. If not, I'm halfway to 57 and I'll try it again.

Again thanks for the input.