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    now the only question is thunderstorm or NS.
    if it really is 20yrds you could keep melee out almost indefinatly.
    {<Nullberri , 70>, <Voidberri, 70>, <Emptyberri, 70>} of Lightbringer

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    Just went fiddling with the talent calculator. My problem with the tree is there are now too many talents I want in elemental, so I don't think I'll be getting 20 points into resto for the extra 5% crit on LB! Anyone think Astral Shift is worth taking for PvE? If not, I could see doing 52/0/19. Fears aren't really a worry but stuns & silences can be.

    Elemental Oath can get 3-stacked with one opening salvo (hoorah for elemental mastery).

    Thunderstorm is pretty awesome. 20y knockback on a rotation is going to be sweet in instances to get meelee off of you.

    So much win here.
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    my issue was if you want thunderstorm , paralyze and oath you have to forgo astral shift and tow or take -1 rank to one of them to get tow. but as it stands if they dont switch tow to say water or a free 5th totem you can drop then its value is seriously diminished by flametonge totem.

    however i feel between paralyze and thunderstorm astral shift becomes over shadowed by just not having to deal with melee.
    {<Nullberri , 70>, <Voidberri, 70>, <Emptyberri, 70>} of Lightbringer

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Stack',index.php?page=Thread&postID=90153#post901 53
    my issue was if you want thunderstorm , paralyze and oath you have to forgo astral shift and tow or take -1 rank to one of them to get tow. but as it stands if they dont switch tow to say water or a free 5th totem you can drop then its value is seriously diminished by flametonge totem.

    however i feel between paralyze and thunderstorm astral shift becomes over shadowed by just not having to deal with melee.
    Keep in mind what was limited to 5-man groups now works raid-wide.

    That means that ToW will now work raid-wide, and stack raid-wide (if it still stacks).
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    keep in mind my shamans pvp 90% of there existance, and were already in a party. so its still a nerf to tow for my purpose for atleast 1 of the shamans in my party.
    {<Nullberri , 70>, <Voidberri, 70>, <Emptyberri, 70>} of Lightbringer

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    If Totem of Wrath is raid wide I doubt it will stack. Imagine 20 Ele Shamans in a 25 man raid, you'd be able to obtain 60% spell crit from just that totem alone, while I have 34% spell crit unbuffed it wouldn't take much to obtain 100% spell crit and at that point .... well that's some seriously overpowered damage for PvE
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    if they remove its ability to stack then id prolly go tow, searing ,searing, flametongue
    (in woltk im going 4x shaman, 1x boomkin)
    {<Nullberri , 70>, <Voidberri, 70>, <Emptyberri, 70>} of Lightbringer

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    WOW!


    WOW!


    WOW!

    Soo much WIN in elemental Tree! Few things i've noticed... 10% more Int! no longer teh lame 5% more mana.. totally worth over the 5% crit! and NS is nothing compared to Thunderstorm!

    Improved Shields!?!?! totally worth going for, and can snag instant Ghost Wolf! Improved Water shield 100% to gain mana from a water shield Charge when you crit a heal. not as good for elemental but still!

    Wow!

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    Improved range on totems though in the resto tree is also another crucial ability. 20 yard base range is brutal. Instant Ghost Wolf would be nice though.
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    boomkins get typhoon (kinda like thunder storm), +6% more nature damage for the current target, 20% haste for 8s on crit (30s cooldown), roots, cyclone, trees, etc seems like pretty good synergy to me.

    also if they do go thru with the 2 spec system (so you can just flip between 2 specs for free) then youve also scored yourself a tank in pve.
    {<Nullberri , 70>, <Voidberri, 70>, <Emptyberri, 70>} of Lightbringer

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