PVP Etiquette

[Tasty]

PvP Etiquette - a short story by Tasty.

I was in BEM doing dailies one fine day (I do the large apex eminations and kill the giants after for the shards and junk) when I see a warlock fly by and land just standing there. I think to myself no one can be that cruel so I summon the giant and start to kill it when BAM the warlock attacks me. PVE geared so 5k shadowbolts do hurt. I manage to kill the lock but not before my healer dies. Then I wipe and the giant despawns. We both res and he attacks me again so I kill him just fine. He brings in three friends and usually this wouldn't be a problem except aoe fear screws me up real bad when capped (1500ms ftl!) Anyway they camped me for about an hour, which I spent reading some new Asterix books I picked up. Moral of the story, my etiquette is Kill first don't ask questions later.

edit: a little unrelated but I felt like sharing

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Heh, mine's kinda similar. If they're very obviously nearby for something reasonable and not related to me, then I'll keep an eye on 'em and let 'em be. Soon as they even look in my direction, though, it's on like donkey kong.

[Naysayer]

So I have been hitting battlegrounds doing the daily quests, with some success. So far I think that I have been able to hold my own for the most part. Currently I am taking my 4-some in (pally, mage, lock, and priest). I haven’t seen too many complaints until last night. I was working on EotS and was getting a lot of comments about how having a multi-boxer in the group was hampering their ability win. Looking at the results of the bg I think that point is questionable since I was smack in the middle of the rankings and considering that I haven’t been level 70 a whole week yet and have not so great gear I felt that I probably wasn’t the entire reason for the loss. Nevertheless I really don’t want to be more of an irritant than I already am to my fellow players. So I am asking my fellow boxers is there an etiquette to PVP boxing. Should I not bring all of my toons into certain battlegrounds. I have found that nobody really notices much in AV, but I do get noticed in others. Since I want to grind up some season 2 gear with honor what’s the best way to go about this?

Thanks

I'll be honest with you. 5 players should hardly ever lose a node, at all. It would take 5-10(usually closer to 10) enemies to take a node from 5 decent players. So, if you hold your nodes from everything other than mass zergs then you're not the problem. Now I do see 5boxers who get dropped by 1-2 enemies, sad to say but it's not uncommon, and they(boxer) are hampering the team as a whole. Though, keep in mind that they are no different than 5 single bad players and there are far more bad players around than good.

So in the end, if you're holding your nodes tell the whiners to stfu, but if you're losing your node to a couple rogues or a rush of 3 enemies than just accept that you're bad and try to work on your game. If you're just in there taking up space and not giving a crap about whether you win or lose, then I'm going to have to say that you're a waste of not only a single space, but 5 damn spaces and that sucks for anyone else trying to enjoy BG's. BG's are a team system, not a solo system.

[magwo]

I'm afraid I'm quite a whiner in WSG and AB, simply because we (alliance) seem unable to win them.
It's a lot of close quarters in WSG where shamans end up stuck on corners and stuff, and there are many opportunities for warstomp and aoe fears everywhere.

So when I'm forced to play WSG or AB for marks, I turn into a rabid whinestorm. Sad.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

I'll be honest with you. 5 players should hardly ever lose a node, at all. It would take 5-10(usually closer to 10) enemies to take a node from 5 decent players.

Assuming similar gear. :P

[balboa]

I made a post on this not too long ago myself. And pretty much everyone has a solid point in what they are telling you. They are your accounts so play how you wanna play and you do have every right to be in there as the rest of them do. I have just been doing my own thing in BG's. In WSG, I either play defense or offense depending on the mood i'm in. AB, I try to cap whatever nodes are available and try to keep my group moving. Storm, I just run in circles recapping which ever base horde has which seems to be working lately. And in AV, I play defense starting at Belinda and then defend each GY or Bunker as long as I can, hopefully stalling them long enough for us to down Drek.

I look at what people write in the chat's and I just ignore all of it unless I get a whisper from someone. Normally I tell them my chat is off and dont know what they are saying about me.

I've now gotten my season 2 mace and shield and things have gotten better for myself. The insults keep coming, but I'm cool with it now knowing its only a matter of time for when I'll have all the honor gear I need and I wont have to worry about the BG's anymore and it will be fun times.

[Kayley]

As most others in here have said, ignore them. Just keep an eye out for Shattrath premade groups, sometimes they suck.. sometimes they are decent. Do it long enough and you'll have the better half spamming you for group invites 8) (assuming you are capable). What does this mean? No more putting up with random idiots! Seriously, you can play your arse off, top the dmg/kb/healing.. cap your heart out.. You will still be blamed for any failure by randoms. A week old.. but I wanted to post damnit >_<!

[Vyndree]

Much like the people who ask in the customer service forums if losing consistently is against the win trading rules....

Blizzard can't ban you for being bad at the game.

That being said, even if you WERE a bad pvp'er, nobody else in the battleground has the right to complain. You pay for your access to the BGs same as they do. Just like you can't kick a solo boxer who just plain sucks at PvP, they can't kick you.

Granted, you should try NOT to suck, but losing because you are bad at PvP doesn't mean they can retaliate in any way, shape or form. In fact, if they harass you to get you to /afk out of the BG, I believe that it could (depending on severity) be considered bannable harassment.

[Ellay]

the larger the BG the more beneficial you are going from AV - > EotS -> AB -> WSG. At some points in a WSG match if I am up against a pre-made and the rest of my team is pugs and has no coordination, I feel more of a hindrance but that's just because I expect to win.

Play how you want and ignore them unless they are being nice

[merujo]

It's really easy for me. What i do now, if my team ain't capable of teamplay, i wont play 20 minutes hardcore for 1 mark, so i just stop.

AV is the exception, for any other bg, when more than 2 players follow me, harass me, i will stop at my gy and do nothing but defend myself. I don't even care anymore with the chat! i used too, and was only causing brain damage :P