To clear things up theres no doubt that it won't handle five just wanted to see what kinda fps I'm looking at. And as for my current laptop 'fine' is a relative term I can't get over 15fps, ever and I get heaps of critical errors when porting all five people to Shat in one go lol. Think I'm mostly held back by processor/vid card atm 128mb x600/p4 3.0ghz. Anyway thanks for the info guys