4th day camped

[BGuru]

Corpse camping is never considered excessive or extreme on a PVP server.

Here is a quote from a blue post:

I'm aware that you weren't really after a Game Master response here. However I wanted to tell you that I sympathize, and to clarify our policies on the matter.

It is correct that we will not take action if someone is corpse camping you on a PvP realm - ever (and on PvE realms it is not an issue). This is something we consider to be resolvable by players themselves by PvP means. However, if a player is exploiting terrain in neutral towns to avoid guard aggro we do have policies in place to deal with it. To quote myself after someone helpfully linked a previous thread on the matter:

Q u o t e:
[...] in Outlands it is acceptable to use any terrain to gain advantage in world PvP, unless this involves abusing glitches or "blind spots" in neutral towns or other areas with guards on duty. Attacking a player anywhere within the borders of such a town should cause the guards to retaliate.


I would also like to remind everyone to keep the thread constructive and to the point. Attempting to determine other players' motivation by involving insults or inappropriate language will have consequences that affect your posting privileges, and may also lead to the closure of the thread.

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From: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread....=1&pageNo=5#82

[Tonuss]

Well he admits to me that he is Samman.... So I just reported him for harrassing me from another account. Well I think something happed cause he got logged.. so I guess it was a temp ban or something cause now he will not give up on killing me..

Keep reporting him, that means that he is working his way up the penalty volcano. First offense is three hours, so all it probably did was piss him off even more. While GMs typically consider PvP to be an "anything goes" deal and usually will tell people to find their own solution, they will take action against people for harassment. Corpse camping and griefing is allowed, but there is a point where they WILL take action.

And also... find some people sympathetic to your cause to help you out and make his life even more miserable. Is there no one on your server you can ask for help?

[Bradster]

While leveling my first shaman to 60 I picked a server, the ratio was something like 4 to 1 alliance, I was horde. I got ganked every 5mins. So one day my friend and I went to red ridge to burn off some steam and this warrior geared to the bone 1/2 shot each of us. Ever since the day, anytime my friend or I logged on he would come hunt us down and camp us. He must of had a Horde spy account.

I finished my the rest of my 2 levels hiding in Burning steps in caves, he never found me XD. There's lots of places to hide and level. Even when leveling the locks I had 2 70 rouges that liked to camp me a bit. I couldn't kill them because cloak of skill and only being 40.

[Naysayer]

Got a blue response.

Message by
Aredek
Blizzard Poster:

To be clear, please read over our support article regarding this very subject:

Player vs Player Server Policy
http://us.blizzard.com/support/artic...rticleId=20456

I've underlined a few of the more important pieces of information to help clarify.

Q u o t e:
We are unable to assist with the following issues:
Actions that would typically be considered "dishonorable" are considered legitimate PvP tactics and will not be addressed by our Game Master (GM) staff. "Dishonorable" actions include, but are not limited to:

* Corpse camping.
* Tricking players into getting flagged for PvP (i.e. jumping in the middle of another player's area effect spell).
* Killing players well below your level.


Ongoing Harassment
The Ongoing Harassment policy does not apply when there is a PvP resolution available, as physical confrontations are considered a facet of PvP combat and players in opposing factions are unable to communicate verbally. Characters have the ability to address their conflicts through combat and GMs will only involve themselves in extreme or excessive circumstances.

IMPORTANT

* This policy contains exceptions to the policies currently being enforced on all servers.
* Though this policy reflects a somewhat "hands-off" approach, the GM staff will intervene in cases of extreme or excessive harassment.
* Policies governing general decency are still in effect. Actions such as inappropriate names, obscene language, and spamming will be addressed as on any other server

I'd suggest not taking this act of vengeance too far.

They seem to swing both ways, which would lead me to believe that if you page a GM enough, you'll eventually get results and the camper will be banned/suspended if it's excessive enough. Four days is certainly excessive imo.

[HTeam]

In this specific case, you also have to remember he's using a spy account. He's already been dinged for crossteaming, so if he starts showing up consistently in your zone, let them know about that as well.

[Marathon]

4 days of being camped .... that Mage has no life ....

But depending on his gear once you hit your mid to late 50's you will actually have a fighting chance against him.

[Stealthy]

Revenge is a dish best served cold as they say...

Get an addon like VanasKOS, add him to it...level up, come back and camp him for 4 days solid.

Payback is a bitch! :P

Cheers,
S.

[RobinGBrown]

That you can't report people on pvp servers for camping? You can.

and

When does selective camping turn into harassment though?

The very first thing on the 'Report a problem screen' says something along the lines of 'The following are not considered harassment: corpse camping', I've always assumed that to mean that killing a player over and over again is a perfectly legit tactic.

Corpse camping is NEVER harassment as far as Blizzard is concerned (AFAIK).

This mage was playing by the rules, you, with your multibox setups, are playing by the rules, start questioning one and you'll have to question everything.

At least he's not whining on the forums!

[shaeman]

At least he's not whining on the forums!

Unlike someone who started a thread, didn't like the response he got and ran back to another forum taking posts out of context to try and paint that forum in a bad light.

"This mage was playing by the rules, you, with your multibox setups, are playing by the rules, start questioning one and you'll have to question everything "

No logic in that particular argument. (can I just ask, do you multibox, because you seem to dislike the whole concept, so it kind of makes me wonder why you are really on this forum?)

However ultimately it is a blizzard rule (I'm sure they've given it a huge amount of thought)- and I'm sure they've had many people questioning it and it stands therefore it should be accepted.

(wow - if only the anti multiboxers could see reason like this).

Personally that's why I would never roll on a PVP realm. I like the idea of being able to choose when I fight, and would rather not give narrow minded, emotionally stunted morons the ability to ruin my enjoyment of the game. Although I must admit that it must be a great feeling having levelled to 70 despite the fools, to revisit every single one of them and return the favour x 5. I'm sure they wouldn't whine on the forums when that happens.

[Naysayer]

That you can't report people on pvp servers for camping? You can.

and

When does selective camping turn into harassment though?

The very first thing on the 'Report a problem screen' says something along the lines of 'The following are not considered harassment: corpse camping', I've always assumed that to mean that killing a player over and over again is a perfectly legit tactic.

Corpse camping is NEVER harassment as far as Blizzard is concerned (AFAIK).

Look passed the "first thing" on the report a problem screen and you'll see notations for exceptions. Customer service Blue named Aredek says you're wrong and you can be banned if it's excessive.