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    Default keyclone + voice recognition a marriage made in heaven.

    This forum is amazing. I learn something new everyday and a quick post with a video yesterday has (possibly) made my ideal setup come true.

    Being a masochist I wanted to multi box 5 different classes (ultimate aim), but rather having one character played well, and the vast majority of the other classes abilities unnused was not something I wanted.

    However macroing up and assigning keys, and then trying to remember key presses for these infrequently used but vital abilities would be a nightmare.

    I watched a video of someone two boxing with voice recognition yesterday and saw some flaws with it and wondered how it would scale for 5 characters. I initially discounted as a replacement for keyclone.

    This morning it suddenly occured to me that keyclone in conjunction with voice recognition may be the answer.

    I'm now imagining a setup like the following.

    The most frequently used direct damage and healing spells are going to be hotkeyed. The class specific abilities that may not be used all the time but can play a vital part will have a voice command and a unique (but very odd ) key combination assigned.

    So for example - I'm playing, i notice my warlock is climbing the aggro table I say soul shatter and it drops (or I say Aggro Dump). My hunter is now climbing the table so I can yell feigndeath (more likely playdead).

    I see an add coming along but notice it's a beast - I say hibernate.

    I'm thinking that most of the commands I would setup wouldn't be emergency type stuff but generally stuff that may save a lot of moving to another screen and trying to trigger an ability that isnt part of my usual key mashing.

    I can see this helping for setting up distracts on my hunter to the tank or to the pet. I can fire off a misdirect if a mob is heading for the healer.

    I can banish or enslave on my warlock, reseduce.... all whilst being able to focus on the main dps.

    I just think this is going to make mixing multiple classes and using their strenghts and varied abilities easier.

    Unfortunately I'm at work so can't get to try this out, but I think tonight I'll be buying something like vr commander and trying it out.

    I'll keep people posted on progress.
    Team: Feral Druid, 3 Ele Shaman, 1 Resto Shaman

    Gimp Team: 4 paladins(13) and a DK(80)
    Kierlay,kierlee,kieree,kierla and Karatesh

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    Oh.. That sounds awesome.. If you get it to work, give us a guide..

    However... Wouldn't this be borderline Automation, hence breaking the TOU/EULA? Discuss please.
    Failing is the only way of starting over with improved knowledge. (Henry Ford)

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  3. #3

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    Nice idea.

    I don't think it is classed as automation because you are still giving the command to cast a spell, just like pressing a button. WoW allows people to use voice commands instead of pressing a key when playing solo so don't see why this breaks any rules.

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    I think this is within the terms of service, it doesn't give any competitive advantage as such, certainly not the way I would use it.

    The triggering voice command in essence simulates a key stroke.(I wouldn't do anything other than simulate a keypress - no delays loops etc). The key press may trigger an in wow macro.

    I did see a video of someone using software like this (but you've got me worried now ). Is there a list of prohibited software available from blizzard?
    Team: Feral Druid, 3 Ele Shaman, 1 Resto Shaman

    Gimp Team: 4 paladins(13) and a DK(80)
    Kierlay,kierlee,kieree,kierla and Karatesh

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    I read about this too... I believe there is a wiki on this and a couple of posts. The down side is depending on what software you use there might be a problem. Think about it the computer record the word, lets say "heal", you recorded it right when you computer boots up and you are relaxed. You bind that world to Healing wave, since you will only use it when you need it quick. Your in a battle and you get a bad pull, your heart is pumping faster and you get tunnel vision and a little nervous (omg i'm going to die), you yell "HEAL" noting happens and you keep yelling nothing happens and you die. The reason why it didn't work is not the program it is you "heal" <> "HEAL". Like i said it depends on the program, if it is a good program it wont matter, but a bad program you will not get the heal. There is one program in the wiki but most virus scans find a virus in it. What might be good is some of the buffs that you can do out of combat. But it is something worth looking into.
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    Azphel
    Dual Sorcerer (Medeia, Meddeia)
    1--------10---------20-x-------30---------40---------50

    Wow Horde retired
    Team 1: 1 pally and 4 shamTeam lvl 70
    Team 2: 1 DK and 1 Priest lvl 80

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    I'd pretty much keep my voice commands to abilities that can be triggered prior to combat (hunter misdirections etc), and to reactive abilities that may not absolutely break the fight if they dont work.

    Healing and main damage dealing spells are gonig to be hotkeyed - the video I saw had a few moments where heals weren't recognised and that to me would be unforgivable.

    The software I found (at $10 bucks it seemed worth a try and I wont be upset if it doesn't work) was http://www.vrcommander.com/

    Please don't purchase it yet - I haven't tried it so can't recommend it.

    The reason I went for this rather than something like dragon dictate is the lack of training (as it states - dragon dictate is always looking for context from many many possibilities, this one is looking for a limited set). Also it seems to have a setting for continuous recognition, so could be slightly more responsive as a result.

    I have ideas for this - so voicecommands such as hunterfocus, warlockfocus could set the focus for the hunter to the mains current target , then set the warlocks focus to the next target. I could then pretty much say misdirecttank or misdrectpet and say banish to have the warlock banish it's focus.

    In theory combining it with keyclone would give me the best of all worlds .... In reality I may turn out to be disappointed.

    Either way I will try this on my paladin, boomkin , shadow priest midlevel characters tonight. (they haven't been multiboxed together yet, and have no macro setup so seem like likely candidates to have).
    Team: Feral Druid, 3 Ele Shaman, 1 Resto Shaman

    Gimp Team: 4 paladins(13) and a DK(80)
    Kierlay,kierlee,kieree,kierla and Karatesh

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    I would suggest that you use 2 words for all commands. Like "Shield me", "Bubble Me", "Follow Me"... Reason is it will be harder when you talk to someone that you toons will do that (granted that shield and bubble will probably not be used that much in everyday life, but whole knows). One of you kids could comes in with bubbles ("bubble" is the word to use bubble) and you to tell them to "stop blowing bubbles", well you pally just bubbled and lost all agro and now you have a wipe... dam kids lol. Another person said to put please at the end of everything "Bubble please" because we all know no one says please anymore lol
    Aion:
    Azphel
    Dual Sorcerer (Medeia, Meddeia)
    1--------10---------20-x-------30---------40---------50

    Wow Horde retired
    Team 1: 1 pally and 4 shamTeam lvl 70
    Team 2: 1 DK and 1 Priest lvl 80

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    Good point.

    I'll probably have commands of the format <action> <class>

    e.g

    bubble druid, shield hunter.

    Distract pet

    distract tank

    banish focus

    fear focus etc
    Team: Feral Druid, 3 Ele Shaman, 1 Resto Shaman

    Gimp Team: 4 paladins(13) and a DK(80)
    Kierlay,kierlee,kieree,kierla and Karatesh

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'shaeman',index.php?page=Thread&postID=85178#post8 5178
    Distract pet

    distract tank

    banish focus

    fear focus
    I think that these would be great ones. Many times when i see a mob about to break fear and have to find the fear button and then go bad to my mob... Great example is the lion from kara (Wizard of Oz)
    Aion:
    Azphel
    Dual Sorcerer (Medeia, Meddeia)
    1--------10---------20-x-------30---------40---------50

    Wow Horde retired
    Team 1: 1 pally and 4 shamTeam lvl 70
    Team 2: 1 DK and 1 Priest lvl 80

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    Ah yes - Roar.

    I put in a focus fear macro on my lock specifically for that encounter and to take out one of the elementals in the shade of aran fight. It's come in handy in many an instance too.
    Team: Feral Druid, 3 Ele Shaman, 1 Resto Shaman

    Gimp Team: 4 paladins(13) and a DK(80)
    Kierlay,kierlee,kieree,kierla and Karatesh

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