Stop hating the singleboxers please

[Otlecs]

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"/2 This Channel is for trade only plz take your opinions elsewhere, because I WTS 5v5 losses."

I have to say that was a dangerous thing to say. If after that you lost to the same team several times in a row it might seem suspicious. If it was reported. You might get your Arena Team Disbanded, and all your arena and honor bought items removed from all your characters... At least in Europe and Korea. Not really sure about the policies on the American side for Wintrading.

That comment flew right over your head. He's telling people to get off the trade channel and PvP him, because they're going to lose to him. That kind of thing would be easily explainable to a GM - he's not selling his own personal losses for money.. he's going to dish out some losses to opposing teams. I know what you mean about accidentally getting stuck against a good team that may win a few times in a row, but gold transfers can be tracked, and a GM would be able to tell if something fishy was truly going on.

[Drizzit]

you could have stated your opinion in a better way.

But isn't it HIS opinion. I thought YOU can state YOUR opinion any way that YOU want?
Knytestorme I am with you on this. I think that this is a single boxer troll. Robin how do you think this post was going to turn out? You come to a multi-boxing community and tell us to be nice to single boxers, when they are not nice to us. That is like making a skinhead watch the Jeffersons. It is like going to a cannibal's house and telling them to eat a salad.

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This is exactly the sort of thing that will get multiboxing banned and mess it up for everyone. I understand that most of the hate comes from young American kids who have never had to deal with people in real life (this counts for BOTH sides of the problem by the way) but this sort of attitude is extremely toxic, you think you're hurting others but you're hurting yourself just as much with this sort of behaviour.

He's not posting on the Blizz forums with this statement, and he's amongst friends in venting here. You obviously haven't multiboxed much, because the abuse we take on a daily basis is ridiculous. I'm not going to go on a flame war in the WoW forums about it, and we don't hate singleboxers here. We hate people who constantly bitch and moan about something Blizzard has stated for years is totally acceptable. We hate being assaulted in /w's by asshats we don't know and haven't ever dealt with on any level. Blizzard employees receive 3 free WoW subscriptions as part of a benefit of working with them - how many employees there do you think are willing to get rid of multiboxing?

As far as your comment about the hate from the young on BOTH sides of the problem.. I suspect that a majority of the multiboxers out there are well over 21 years old and have spent quite a good deal of time in the real world. *Unlike* the majority of anti-multiboxing trolls on the WoW forums who complaing about how expensive $75/mo is.

I agree with the comment that we shouldn't intentionally be an ass to anyone on the servers, unless it was totally deserved. Even then, we shouldn't break any rules defined in ToS, so there's no reason for us to get banned. The only future possibility I could see is that multiboxing is made more difficult (or dis-allowed) in BG/Arena play.. since that's where a majority of complaints are coming from. I still think this would be highly unlikely, again, because many Blizzard employees multibox and enjoy that playing style.

[Frosty]

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread....96119569&sid=1

lol @ the OP

Why do I feel like my 2 year old has just come crying to me saying "Mommy told me no more candy!".
To the OP, you've just lost all credibility in my book. You are a troll, plain and simple.
You got shut down here, so you went and complained about it on the very boards you were saying we need to smooth things over with.

Here's a rule my mother taught me oh so many years ago. Treat people the way you want to be treated.
It's already been stated that multiboxers don't go out and pick fights with single-boxers by sending random /tells "Loser" "get a life" etc..

And here's a rule my father taught me. Opinions are like a--holes. Everybody has one and some of them stink.
Don't come here and expect to force your opinion on how we should handle ourselves in game. Most of us play this way because we do not want to play with YOU (or any other whiney person).

There have been several attempts to sugar-coat things for you here, but I think that time has come and gone.

[Ifalna]

Any attempts to create drama pretty much fell on their face.

Quoting the thread was the killing blow, saying that multiboxers hate all single players, and linking to a thread where they repeatedly say they only ones they hate are the abusive ones, was the move of a certified genius.

Congrats op. Maybe next time you will have more success.

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http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread....96119569&sid=1

lol @ the OP

Wow.. Talk about stooping to a new low. I've tended to notice gamers in Europe have a much better community with each other than the US/Canada side. For the most part, they're congratulatory and friendly even when competitive play is involved. However, I've been to enough major LAN events across the country over the last 10 years, and I've seen the difference among the North American side of things. I've seen kids in fistfights, breaking each others computers, getting arrested, getting stabbed, stealing.. all because they 'hate' the other player for being too skilled, wealthy, arrogant, whatever. I believe a lot of it has to do with the competitive culture in North America when compared to Europe.

An example, in Europe, upon meeting someone new, people generally ask what someone likes to do for hobbies and what they're interested in. In America, people tend to ask what you do for a job. When I meet Europeans, they ask what I'm interested in, and I talk about sports, cars, music, movies, etc. When I meet Americans, they ask what I do for a living, and I say I'm a software engineer. In North America, it's an immediate gauge on wealth, and it's not at all like that in Europe.

I don't know how single play is like on EU servers, but on US servers, it sucks. Unless you know everyone in your party personally, or have a long gaming history behind them, or are mature (usually that also means over the age of 20 or so), then you're basically guaranteed to have the immature players rolling on loot that should go to a player that would benefit from it more. That's the *primary* reason I started dual and then 5-boxing. I don't have to deal with immature assholes ruining the game experience for me.

You're in the EU forums, and you apparantely know nothing about what is common for the US multiboxers to experience from singleboxers on a daily basis. That's the reason we have so little tolerance for someone who comes out bashing multiboxers like we're the devil. Don't be fooled.. so many of these hypocrite singleboxers would gladly jump into multiboxing if they were willing to afford it. A lot of the hate on US servers is envy.

[Knytestorme]

hehehehe.

Such a shame he had to be a euro poster, I can't reply

Think it's the first time I've been quoted too, just a shame that he couldn't be bothered giving credit, seems some people thought he wrote it.

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More I think about it, the more lame I think it is to have posted on the EU forum knowing the majority of us wouldn't be able to respond so will do it here and either OP will grwo the balls to post my reponses there or show the real reason they started this thread....assuming they actually return now they got what they were after.

@ #4: They post it there purely for flamebait once their agenda was pointed out. Read the thread at dual-boxing to get the quote in context.

@ #7: Your fixt may actually have some merit if multiboxers were going round starting threads allover the place on the general forums stating how pure they are and so much better than people who don't. We have to put up with at least 2-3 threads a day on the US forums alone decrying multiboxing and calling us all the names under the sun, so get off your high horse and try to make your fixt relevant to the facts. BTW, I haven't gottem money off my folks since I moved out of home 14 years ago, but you're right...I have no right to yell or whine at people, pity I don't so try telling the gentards constantly complaining about multiboxing the same thing.

[Zzyzxx71]

Fuck the singleboxers.

If they are too fucking retarded to not understand the fucking basic premises of multiboxing and Blizzards aproval of it then they deserve to die in a fucking grease fire. The more threads they post about it on the general forums, or come here to start, the more I will keep multiboxing and do as much as I can to piss the whiny little pricks off until they get the hint and either shut their fucking mouths or quit WoW.

It's very simple, they leave me the fuck alone and stop hating me for a chosen legit playstyle and I'll leave them the fuck alone and not rub their faces in how pathetic, useless and generally poor in education and wealth they are.

This is exactly the sort of thing that will get multiboxing banned and mess it up for everyone. I understand that most of the hate comes from young American kids who have never had to deal with people in real life (this counts for BOTH sides of the problem by the way) but this sort of attitude is extremely toxic, you think you're hurting others but you're hurting yourself just as much with this sort of behaviour.

Much as I hate to use Wiki but some of you should read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sportsmanship

Sportsmanship applies just as much to online games.

I find it interesting that you select this *1* post as the EXAMPLE for the entire community, and this *1* post is the "sort of thing that will get multiboxing banned and mess it up for everyone" - even though we get MUCH more rude UNPROVOKED responses on a daily daily DAILY (did I say daily?) basis by a SUBSTANTIAL factor. (I have no numbers to back this up, I'm making an assumption my personal experiences are similar to the responses/tells other people get).

95% of OUR responses on forums are A: logical B: substantiated C: an ATTEMPT to educate.

95% of the responses we got are A: childish B: nonfactual C: fabricated D: an attempt to be hurtful.

5v1 people lose. People get butthurt.

Their issue is that 1 person in control of 5 people just killed them. They take it personally. They think they've been slighted by someone. They get emotional and don't think out the base facts - I just lost to 5 CHARACTERS. If I rolled 5 different classes, 5 different races, 5 completely non similar names - I bet you the amount of crying would substantially drop. Why? Because I look like 5 different players.

/rant off

[Anjuna]

Responding to ignorance with ignorance =/= win.