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    Any reasonable lawyer will say that guy is an idiot :thumbsup:
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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Tasty',index.php?page=Thread&postID=83852#post838 52
    You and your maths :P
    I actually hate math, but I use it where I need to because nobody can argue with numbers.
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  4. #14

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    I can argue with them. Damn those numbers! Damn you all

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    LOL Tasty at your sig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Vyndree',index.php?page=Thread&postID=83856#post8 3856
    Quote Originally Posted by 'Tasty',index.php?page=Thread&postID=83852#post838 52
    You and your maths :P
    I actually hate math, but I use it where I need to because nobody can argue with numbers.
    I think what he means is that you should check your numbers again, they are way off

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    As a hint:

    Number of multiboxers with title/total multiboxers = 1/2403 * 100/1 = 0.0416%

    [EDIT]

    And as can be seen, the number will just get infinitely lower (apart from it already being statistically insignificant) with the more multiboxers there actually are.

    For us to get close to a number consistent with regular players, since we can say for a fact Ellay is the only multiboxer with a ranking (or they'd have been making noise by now), we'd need to either have only 3 people multiboxing arenas OR we'd need ~840 ranked multiboxers.

    Since we know the second number is false and we know the first number is false we can clearly show that multiboxing in arenas isn't an advantage.

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    ugh.. I wish there was a law against stupid..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Vyndree',index.php?page=Thread&postID=83856#post8 3856
    Quote Originally Posted by 'Tasty',index.php?page=Thread&postID=83852#post838 52
    You and your maths :P
    I actually hate math, but I use it where I need to because nobody can argue with numbers.
    Numbers are a tool of the Man, man!

    Sorry, I just had to. :P
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    The idea of a class action lawsuit against multiboxers is laughable at best, these moronic mouthbreathers need to *read*, for once, the EULA which they agreed to.

    It states, in section 14:

    c. Restrictions. You and Blizzard agree that any arbitration shall be limited to the Dispute between Blizzard and you individually. To the full extent permitted by law, (1) no arbitration shall be joined with any other; (2) there is no right or authority for any Dispute to be arbitrated on a class-action basis or to utilize class action procedures; and (3) there is no right or authority for any Dispute to be brought in a purported representative capacity on behalf of the general public or any other persons.



    You give up your right to sue on a class action basis for any dispute you have with Blizzard, ie. you think MBing is cheating or "unfair", or harms your game experience.


    You also agree to conduct informal negotiations with Blizzard, IN WRITING, for 30 days before seeking arbitration. You have to do the 30 discussion, then attempt arbitration, and the only thing you can get is 6 months of fees (and your account permabanned), which is also in the EULA, if during arbitration it's discovered you have indeed been harmed - but the EULA also has a distinct limitation of liability in section 11, which states that whatever happens in the game, wether it's teh server goes buggy when teh glaives drop and nobody rolled yet and you all dced and did'nt get it, or if some players legally use multiple accounts to fry your lame, basement bully ass up and down a battleground, because your basement dwelling lard ass don't get that 5 never equals 1, Blizzard takes NO responsibility. (Which means, account restorals and such are done gratis, and can be refused at any time. You have NO rights to demand ANYTHING of Blizzard, except reasonable access to an account they own, on their servers, if the servers are up)


    The guy who posted that has nothing else. Bellowing for a class action lawsuit is out of desperation, because they have no other way to attack the issue.


    Trust me, any lawyer or group of lawyers is going to charge a LOT to even put the framework of a case together to attack the EULA in a state court, then get a class established, then pay for every WoW customer to be notified of the suit, then prove before a state judge it deserves to be kicked up to a Federal judge, who them has to be convinced that a class of people were denied something, or were caused monetary damage, or were harmed in some way, like a defective drug.


    You'd better get a damned good legal team, because Blizzard/Vivendi is going to bring massive swinging legal dicks into the fight, who will bury you in paperwork for YEARS before it even reaches the filing stage. If it does reach a court (they'll attempt to throw 6 months fees at you to make you go away, most of the mouth breathers who threaten lawsuits will grab it and run), the games REALLY begin, and discovery. Like I said, bring damned good lawyers, because Blizzard's will shred you in a courtroom if you bring a weak team. You will need to depose their entire witness list, and pay for it. You will need to hire experts. You will need to pay for presentation materials. You will have to pay for multiple copies of every single piece of paper, e-mail, and any communications in the case, on a regular basis, and that's billed to YOU, until a class is recognized. After that, all of that is taken right from any money from judgements. You lose? Bad times await you.


    It's going to cost thousands to even put the framework together, to pay for a lawyers time, paralegals to research the case, and even then, a decent lawyer will say they have no case, and turn it down after research. (It's an easy buck or two for them). If it gets to a court? Then the bills skyrocket, and if it goes to Federal court, then it goes even HIGHER, as your original lawyers may not be good enough to plead a Federal case. Then the appeal, which can cost as much as the original trial. Blizzard will bury you in paperwork and charges, again.


    And then, even if some barest of chances, and a miracle among miracles happens and a Federal judge decides that the law is meaningless, and the butthurt of a childish manchild over a video game is more important, the majority of the money will go to pay the lawyers, and the remains split up among the "class", which would be WoW subscribers. Hey, we'd all get like, a quarter! MAYBE a dollar if enough people opt out of the suit. After taxes, hey, you're rich, and all that time and effort was well spent, now wasn't it?


    Meanwhile, in the real world, several years have gone by, during which MBers have a blast playing the game.
    LOL.


    Naw. What the idiot on the CSF forum meant to say, was, "Hey, why doesn't someone ELSE do all the work of a class action lawsuit (something I've just heard about, i don't really know anything about them), and I'll sign up for it, so I can get cash to make up for my butthurt, because I'm a big fucking baby who throws tantrums when I don't get my way, and make threats I'll never go through with, like when I threatened my mommy with running away if I did'nt get to watch Barney instead of taking a nap! I'll bet we'd all get thousands of dollars! I'll be a HERO, for suggesting it! I'm so super special and unique that surely a judge will see how IMPORTANT my playing a video game is, that he'll see things MY way, regardless of what the silly laws say, and these meaningless EULA thingies and TOS that everyone says I agreed to - but they don't know that I had my fingers crossed when I clicked "I agree", so it doesn't count!. Oh, wut, lawyers cost how much? Oh, whatever, I'll threaten them anyway, they'll back down just from my threat, and remove all those CHEATERS, and i can go back to never actually pvping in battlegrounds. Someone else can do that actual work of a lawsuit, and pay for it, but all I really want to do is click on a button, or type my e-mail on a website somewhere, because I'm far too lazy to actually find out what a class action lawsuit is, and if I have a legal leg to stand on. In fact, I'm going to take a nap, just posting in CSF wiped me out completely, writing that much is just far too draining. See, MBing screws me of MY honor and marks again, I'm losing both because I'm too tired to play because of those CHEATER MULTIBOXER SCUM! HARUMPH! Don't make me threaten you again! (Because everyone will find out I'm a hollow shell of a man with no testicles or spine, and I just type threatening things online because nobody can tell I'm a complete pussy when it's anonymous".
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