Different names on my accounts

[magwo]

It would be interesting to know if account selling is illegal because of account thieves. I think not - this has been illegal in most MMOs many years before systematic account stealing was even invented. No, account selling is forbidden because the publisher wants to make as much money as possible, and they see none of it when accounts change owner.

I think it does matter, and I do think that customers should be more aware and complain to Blizzard about these things.


There should be laws to protect customers from sinister EULAs/TOSes. There is this thing called fair use, which I think the law should impose on the MMO business as well.


I do not agree at all with the EULA/TOS, yet I still play the game because there is no other game I would want to play. See the problem?

[Tdog]

I would think your best shot would be to call up Blizzard on the phone and tell explain the sitution in person first and if you have the orginal reciepts that could go along way into helping you out. Other than that you'll probably have to end up buying up a couple more copies and releveling a few toons.

I ended up having to do the same thing. My roommate ended up installing my first copy of wow back in the day since i had to run off to work and the install took so long. W/o thinking about it he put his own name into the account creation info. Anyways long story short when I started multiboxing some of the accounts where in my name, some in his even though I legitly bought all the copies it wouldn't have matter. If I had gotten caught, which i never did, I would of lost at least 3 of my accounts and all the work that went along with it.

[Gadzooks]

It would be interesting to know if account selling is illegal because of account thieves. I think not - this has been illegal in most MMOs many years before systematic account stealing was even invented. No, account selling is forbidden because the publisher wants to make as much money as possible, and they see none of it when accounts change owner.

I think it does matter, and I do think that customers should be more aware and complain to Blizzard about these things.


There should be laws to protect customers from sinister EULAs/TOSes. There is this thing called fair use, which I think the law should impose on the MMO business as well.


I do not agree at all with the EULA/TOS, yet I still play the game because there is no other game I would want to play. See the problem?

I'm not going to argue this with you. If you disagree, it's YOUR problem, not the communities, regardless of what paranoid fantasies you entertain as to why they created their policies.

Like I said, this thread is to help people, not sooth your butthurt. Sniveling about YOUR problem with the EULA/TOS does not help anyone.

[magwo]

I do not have any problems whatsoever, but a lot of people do - the thread creator for example. And it's all Blizzard's fault, and I think it is bad on their part.

[Vyndree]

I bought my boys thier copies of wow first they
all used there mans and my cc info. I got interested and got my own
account .I discovered you guys and with the tou statement above thought
I was in the clear.

any thoughts ?

I'm a bit confused about what you're asking here. Are you saying that you mistakenly put your minor dependant child's name on the account?

Someone on the forums was saying that, in that case, you could get it updated back to your name. But they'd need proof that you were the parent and that the child was indeed minor. I'd contact account administration and see if you can get things sorted out.

[Vyndree]

Like I said, this thread is to help people, not sooth your butthurt. Sniveling about YOUR problem with the EULA/TOS does not help anyone.

QFT -- if you want to discuss the ToU/Eula itself I suggest you discuss it on the Blizzard suggestions forum or, at the very least, in a different thread. This thread is about account sharing from people who have already clicked "I accept" on the ToU/Eula and have broken it -- they are looking for ways to rectify the situation.

If you don't agree with something -- even if it is a monopoly or conspiracy theory -- you should NEVER NEVER NEVER click "I accept". There is NO excuse for agreeing to terms that are clearly distasteful to you. If you don't like the Terms/Eula and you think there is a monopoly going on, I suggest you find some legal council and figure out what you, as a consumer, can do about it. Agreeing to the terms is NOT the right course of actions, PARTICULARLY when you have such strong feelings about Blizzard's "unfair" rules.

[Basilikos]

I do not agree at all with the EULA/TOS, yet I still play the game because there is no other game I would want to play. See the problem?

Yeah. The problem is that you agreed to a legally binding contract and think you ought to be able to violate it without consequence.

[Basilikos]

And it's all Blizzard's fault, and I think it is bad on their part.

No. They agreed not to do something and then did it. Debating the fairness of Blizzard's policy is one thing, but saying that Blizzard forces people to violate it is another.

[heyaz]

I do not agree at all with the EULA/TOS, yet I still play the game because there is no other game I would want to play. See the problem?

Yeah. The problem is that you agreed to a legally binding contract and think you ought to be able to violate it without consequence.

Clicking checkboxes on the internet for software EULAs enters you into legally binding contracts now? Pretty sure it's just an agreement between you and blizzard about the service. You break the rules, you lose the service. That's it.

Some of you are taking the concept of a EULA and TOS way too far, to the extent of a full legal contact. I never read the full terms, I clicked agree, and I have been enjoying wow for years with no fear whatsoever that my actions in a video game could have legal implications. Yes, certain actions could cause me to lose my service, but that is about the extent of Blizzard reach (and interest, for that matter).

[Vyndree]

[quote='heyaz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=83780#p ost83780] I never read the full terms, I clicked agree, and I have been enjoying wow for years with no fear whatsoever that my actions in a video game could have legal implications. Yes, certain actions could cause me to lose my service, but that is about the extent of Blizzard reach [/quote]

That is the legal agreement -- Blizzard signed a contract with you. They CANNOT legally deny you service if you are abiding by the ToU/EULA. Of course, they have caveats within the ToU/EULA that says they can cancel service at any time -- but that's for their own protection (and you did click "I agree" -- did you not?). Ignorance of a contract does not absolve you of it -- particularly since you re-sign it EVERY TIME THERE'S A PATCH.

However, we on these forums have made it our utmost priority to follow the ToU/Eula for ALL of the games we play.
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If it is against the ToS of the game you are discussing it is against dual-boxing.com’s community guidelines to discuss ways of breaking said ToS. We are COMMITTED to keeping our hobby 100% compliant with the ToS of any game we play.

Or did you just think that not reading OUR rules wouldn't result in any implications either?

We do not appreciate being associated with people who knowingly break or disregard the game rules. It ruins our reputation as well as yours.

This is your first and final warning -- discussing breaking the rules on this forum is a big no-no.



This thread has been locked due to bad behavior. Play nice in the future so I don't have to do it again.