spoke w/ a WoW GM about software multiboxing & keyclone

[Vyndree]

i called blizzard tech support, and they gave me the green light... but suggested i chat with an in-game GM and ask specifically about keyclone

so i did that. here are the screen clips:

[Feardis]

what worrys me is in most blue posts they quote
"currently acceptable"
leaves it wiiiiide open for change
if enough people complain blizzard will eventually do something
how long that takes is anyones guess
but its on the horizon

[Sarduci]

...and when they want to end it they will. They say the same thing with twinks who sit in the same BG bracket. ALL of the same arguments against DB can apply to twinks. Especially the "against the spirit of the game" argument.

[keyclone]

no worries... read thru some of the conversations here:

http://dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.ph...re_answers_all

[puppychow]

I never understood why people ask GMs questions like these - GMs are the lowest paid employees at Blizzard and do not set policy. They are the "tech support" of WoW, the people with minimal training who basically have an internal knowledge base they use to answer questions, and are not allowed to "make up answers". They don't get to decide if multiboxing is ok, or if Keyclone is cool, or how RAF works. Blizzard devs decide that stuff, and it can change anytime Blizzard management wants it to.

For now Blizzard thinks multiboxing is ok, it brings them in more income and doesn't really hurt other players. if Blizzard ever released an MMO that was free to play (advertiser supported, etc) then you can bet your sweet ass that multiboxing would not be allowed.

[HPAVC]

I never understood why people ask GMs questions like these - GMs are the lowest paid employees at Blizzard and do not set policy. They are the "tech support" of WoW, the people with minimal training who basically have an internal knowledge base they use to answer questions, and are not allowed to "make up answers". They don't get to decide if multiboxing is ok, or if Keyclone is cool, or how RAF works. Blizzard devs decide that stuff, and it can change anytime Blizzard management wants it to.

For now Blizzard thinks multiboxing is ok, it brings them in more income and doesn't really hurt other players. if Blizzard ever released an MMO that was free to play (advertiser supported, etc) then you can bet your sweet ass that multiboxing would not be allowed.

They do make policy cowboy style at times, when suddenly they ban someone for 'whatever' and that soemone has to go through a week or two of bs to get their toon back, looses a pile of mail, arena loses or what have you.

They shaman that won the nVidia 'wow' talbard and was a HW for a few weeks in a row, would be one of these people, a guild just reported him for tons of crap he never did and the GM 5-day banned him then later he was banned again.

[vandam]

What i found a problem witht hat post is the Image, Usuly when talking to a GM its like :

(blizz Icon) <GM> Hisname:



in the image above well no (Blizz Icon) ?? Found this a bit strange?

[krum]

(blizz Icon) <GM> Hisname:

That's a relatively new feature.

[welwyn]

the large and fairly active comunity we have here is certainly not even a large percentage of multi accounts around. i wonder if they stopped multi boxing how many paying customers would they lose? i am guessing somewhere in the region of 15-16k paid accounts might leave and that would be bad for buisness. if they was ever going to change it they would have before now before multi accounts numbers rose too high and the income from them rose too high to lose.

[TooMuchWoW]

Nice GM, but no punctuation.

I've talked to them once or twice just to be sure I would not get in trouble when I've had serious threats whispered to me... I don't have screenshots, but seriously... AFAIK, there is no way to catch the ultimate hardware solution - keyboard splitters. Realistically, for them to actively monitor every account against every other account in real-time to check for synchronized skill/spell usage, the servers would DIE. Not just they way they have with 3.0.2/3.0.3. Even just checking accounts with the same names (legal in the EULA/TOU), it is WAY too much more for the servers to do to check that, when they can fix more lag problems and make everyone happy. There isin't a happy work around for this, and the original post about automation from blue hit it dead on.

Plus, you don't always have access to keyboard solutions. I've multiboxed for a few months now with the intent of transfering all of the new account characters to my old account... honestly, I'm still having a problem finding great class/skill/macro combos, and a lot of the time at a friends house or on PC's I can't add programs to I manually run both. I'm far from the best multiboxer, but I play two accounts and really enjoy it. I should be allowed to pay for two accounts registered legally and far from really impacting the game, right?

I've got props for the 36-man bot team, and anyone who can really streamline all of the reaction skills into ANY sort of multiboxing. It takes a ton of work, a ton of practice and a bit of luck and persistance. While he was right, that for right now it's legal, I REALLY don't think they will go back on it.

Hell, I bet they know about the 36 man team and every other major multiboxer before we did.