5 Shaman instance tactic question

[Texic]

My shaman are currently 18 and I took them to deadmines and found myself slightly stuck.. Not having a tank seems to be my first issue.. I thought it would be ok but at the moment its causing some issues. Second I found that mana was another issue. I had somewhat expected this and without the mana reduction on crit talent it makes it worse but I get a boss to like 35% and am out of mana.

Anyone doing 5 shaman have any recommendations? I don't want to drop a shaman for another class to make it work. Does it get any better a little further on? I know at 40 having mail will make a difference but I need to get there first..

I don't really want to give up and go back to priest warlocks but I may just for the pets as tanks..

[homerjunior]

a few problems your a low lvl shamans dont peak elemental is the shaman "multi-box" spec and u have barely any beneficial talents at that lvl also elemental gear at that lvl is basicly non-existent

[homerjunior]

Mages cant heal and yes thats x-box all 5 are elemental and pretty well geared

[Texic]

There is a video in the movie section of this forum that has a 5 man shaman team doing heroics @ 70.

It looks to be either 5x elemental spec'd, or 4x elemental and 1x restoration spec'd.

In the video, you'll see almost no melee interaction. You'll see lots of nuking, and slowing totems to keep the mobs at range with kiting. I don't know if this will work with lower level shammies, due to the lack of totems and such.

I've got a 2 man shammy team right now, probably going to add a third, and I'm already seeing a need to go elemental and turn them into casters basically. (which makes you wonder why you didn't roll mages in the first place... )

I don't have problems with trash mobs so kiting isnt an issue. At 70 you will see he uses elementals as tanks for bosses which I don't have obviously. Also mages cant heal or self rez and don't wear mail.

[homerjunior]

but u can kinda tank it with mail enough to take a beating anyway and dont forget shield

[Texic]

I don't have problems with trash mobs so kiting isnt an issue. At 70 you will see he uses elementals as tanks for bosses which I don't have obviously. Also mages cant heal or self rez and don't wear mail.

You're sort of missing my point. If you can't tank it with leather/mail, who cares what kind of amor you're wearing?

Eventually they can essentially "tank".. at this level they can't thats the point. If I wanted to play another class I would be playing another class so the armor isn't an issue here. I wasn't looking to be told to play something else I was looking for people who have leveled 5 shaman and found ways to deal with it.

[raylion]

Hold out until level 20...it all changes then :-) Shammies are really bad until that point.

[Texic]

It does not work at lower levels is what I am saying. Just because you watched a 70 shaman do something doesn't mean it can be done at level 18.

Bosses cannot be kited.. Xbox NEVER kites bosses because he has elementals and they cant be. He kites trash because in heroic instances they hit incredibly hard and he can essentially 1 shot them.

I don't have problems on trash only bosses since they CANT be kited and I don't have level 70 pets.

[raylion]

Just treat all your shammies as tanks, dps and healers as one collective...they'll ping pong aggro when they fight. Lesser Heal and 5 x healing totems arrive at twenty and they make an incredible difference...instances are suddenly a lot easier. Unitl then I would just try and grind the best you can until you hit 20.

I nearly gave up with mine pre 20 because they were so bad but am glad I stuck with it. They've now cleared every instannce including mara (except princess - lighting immnuity) with reasonable ease. Kiting could be in the future but for now it's full on elemental nukage with a touch of melee when the mana runs low and all shammies casting lesser heal when one needs it (macroed on F1 to F5) - the speed of lesser heal is a life saver especially when all shammies are casting :-)

[Texic]

Ya without lesser heal its been rough.. Healing stream totem will be nice too.. I managed to push my way through most of deadmines at 19 so 1 more level to go.