Keyclone (multi-boxing) for free?

[Ifalna]

Sorry guys, but not wanting to pay for a function you can get free is common sense, not a hint of tos and eula breach.

I personally did not use keyclone because there is no chance in hell I am paying for something that I can get for free. Keyclone is fabulous due to the ease of setting it up, and the great support. It is not however the end all of boxing, there are plenty of other options that offer the same, or better results, that do however require getting them to work yourself.

So stop looking like assholes, cut the keyclone fanboyism (no offense to the program itself, its a great piece of work), and stop trying to hint that people that wont pay 12 euro are also account sharing or worse, some would just rather that 12 euro be spent on something else.

[Tehtsuo]

I worry that... no that's not true, it would imply I stay up at night fretting about it... I will rephrase

I feel that many of the "Keyclone for free" posts are by people who won't have to worry about paying for all the accounts they use. This probably means they are account sharing... now parents using their offspring's accounts can get past the no account sharing rule, I am rather certain the other direction is not permissible.

It makes me wonder how many kids are putting their parents accounts at risk trying to multibox on the cheap.

Or stealing the CDs.
My local Wal-Mart just started putting the WoW Battlechests in the locked cage that they normally reserve for smaller expensive items such as iPods and digital cameras. I can only assume that it's b/c people are stealing the CD keys.

Glad to hear that. Last time I went to buy a battlechest at Walmart, I found one that was still sealed, the rest were open with the sealing tape cut. I took em to the cashier and explained that they were opened and should not be sold. Her remark? "That's ok, I'll put some Scotch tape on it and put it back on the shelf." I just stood there for a minute with my jaw hanging loose. 8|

[Tehtsuo]

Sorry guys, but not wanting to pay for a function you can get free is common sense, not a hint of tos and eula breach.

I personally did not use keyclone because there is no chance in hell I am paying for something that I can get for free. Keyclone is fabulous due to the ease of setting it up, and the great support. It is not however the end all of boxing, there are plenty of other options that offer the same, or better results, that do however require getting them to work yourself.

So stop looking like assholes, cut the keyclone fanboyism (no offense to the program itself, its a great piece of work), and stop trying to hint that people that wont pay 12 euro are also account sharing or worse, some would just rather that 12 euro be spent on something else.

The alternatives are easy for anyone to track down - there's a whole post about em. Most of this topic doesn't actually qualify as "fanboyism." The fact that someone would be averse to paying 20$ once to multibox is the point. It doesn't seem in line with the standard total price of multiboxing.

[Freddie]

If all other things are equal, then sure, pick the cheapest one. But other things aren't equal.

That's why I chose the most expensive option -- wrote my own program. Even if you value my time at a dollar an hour, I probably spent more than anybody else in this thread.

[Ifalna]

It doesn't seem in line with the standard total price of multiboxing.

I wasen't aware spending additional money that you don't have to was in line with the standard of multiboxing.

Once again, the comments made already because someone did not want to spend more money when there are free alternatives, are absolutely pathetic.

Boxing is about enjoyment, not about the amount of cash you would, or would not like, to spend. It should never be used to make snide factless little remarks about people.

[Tehtsuo]

It doesn't seem in line with the standard total price of multiboxing.

I wasen't aware spending additional money that you don't have to was in line with the standard of multiboxing.

Once again, the comments made already because someone did not want to spend more money when there are free alternatives, are absolutely pathetic.

Boxing is about enjoyment, not about the amount of cash you would, or would not like, to spend. It should never be used to make snide factless little remarks about people.

You're projecting a whole lot of misplaced hostility into my post that simply isn't there. If you want me to play hardball, then you're going to get the "There's a search engine" schtick. If that's what you're looking for, fine - do a search for software solutions, or better yet look for the sticky in the software tools section of the forum that conveniently lists both free and paid options for multiboxing. Otherwise, reread my post and respect that my opinion was just that - an opinion. Agree with it or not, but I don't consider it a "snide factless little remark." It would be wise for anyone looking to start to check their budget and make sure they can handle it. That's not meant to be in any way an attempt to discourage new members from getting started, it's just good sound advice.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

LOL @ this thread. I'm gonna go with Ifalna on this one. Guy has a fair comment that just because someone doesn't want to spend the extra money on keyclone doesn't mean they're cheating, hacking or otherwise immediately suspect. I understand your argument about the cost of it when compared to the totals but you're making a lot of assumptions about character that you simply don't have the data to make. What about people who are basically poor/unemployed and were given the PC(s) and 6-month account sub cards as gifts? Relative to what they spent, $20 is a LOT.

The links to alternatives have been posted already and people who don't use/advocate keyclone are not The Devil(tm).

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[Vyndree]

Anyway, that should kill the 'free / common sense" bullshit arguement. WTF is your time worth anyway? Keyclone (the author) will provide you with UNLIMITED support. Got a problem? He'll take care of you. Period. There are hundreds of threads on this forum proving that fact.

When people start arguing that $20 is "too much money" or they "can't afford it" one starts to wonder how they are paying for thier accounts.... or are they paying for their accounts at all? Are they playing on a private server (breaknig EULA/TOS)? I mean.. if $20 is too much.. hell, $30 (2x wow subscriptions, the bare minimum to multibox) blows that out of the water right quick.

I see both sides of the story -- but the argument that the OP was actually LOOKING for a free program is moot. He is not looking for a free program. He is looking for a free keyclone.

He is looking for a SPECIFIC program (namely, Keyclone), and asking that it be free. He is not looking for the do-it-yourself free version that comes with little to no support.

In fact, he's ASKING us to support him by FINDING HIM a version of Keyclone that is free. This is not possible.

So, I do agree. Free does not mean cheating. Alot of people ENJOY fiddling (and I would say our entire hobby is based around experimenting with new builds/setups/macros), but in the case of this thread I don't really see the OP being one who'd enjoy having to dig his way through things and find out how to build things on his own. He is specifically asking to be handfed.

I think what the "keyclone fanboi's" are saying is that hey -- if you want to be handfed, keyclone (the person) offers excellent support for a minimal fee. There are free versions of similar software that have less support, but if you're not willing to search for answers to how to use those programs then you are probably not the type of person who would be able to succeed in setting up and using them because they are relatively unsupported and undocumented.


So, in this particular case both sides are right -- if he were looking for a DIY free multiboxing solution, then there is nothing wrong with that. However, the OP was not looking for free+difficult, he was looking for free+easy. That sort of thing doesn't exist. If he wants easy he has to pay for the product he is asking for. Which, for multiboxing, isn't a huge expense when you look at it from a relative standpoint.

[Heenan]

I have always only used MultiBox. As long as it works (or there are free alternatives) I will never pay for something. Can I afford Keyclone? Sure. But MultiBox and Octopus are right there *points to software section*

Also, the OP just said he wanted a free program to multibox with because he was already paying for accounts and hardware (the lack of English is probably another problem here).

I think people are starting to use "Keyclone" as a verb instead of a noun (Can you keyclone with that?)

[OzPhoenix]

It doesn't seem in line with the standard total price of multiboxing.

I wasen't aware spending additional money that you don't have to was in line with the standard of multiboxing.

Once again, the comments made already because someone did not want to spend more money when there are free alternatives, are absolutely pathetic.

Boxing is about enjoyment, not about the amount of cash you would, or would not like, to spend. It should never be used to make snide factless little remarks about people.

Ifalna,

I think you've read way too much into some of the posts here.

I personally use KeyClone because it does what I need it to do, and the support for it is there when I need it. Do other free programs also fit that bill? Quite possibly - and I've never maintained otherwise. The point I was making is that we seem to see a lot of threads lately about trying to multibox for, essentially, free. If the OP cannot afford the $20 for KeyClone, and does not want to use one of the other free alternatives, then I would (I think fairly) suggest that he needs to re-evaluate his goals on multiboxing.

That isn't KeyClone fanboyism.

If on the other hand, he is looking for a free program to multibox with - which I agree is a perfectly legitimate motivation - then (as I also stated in my post) there are other alternatives that he could investigate.