Keyclone (multi-boxing) for free?

[Occam's Razor]

Multiboxer aus Deutschland
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[neux]

I compleatly agree with Occam's Razor on all his post in this tread.

The only thing I regret now, not buying keyclone earlier for $10 :(
and I don't think keyclone any easier/harder to learn or configure then Octopus/Hotkey.net, but Autohotkey is different story. it is way too complicated for my tastes.

It took me some time and research before realizing what some option do in keyclone, like what "keymap editor" do, and how to configure it.
I didn't even knew what "Command editor" do or what it is for until I found only one useful guide here on board, because all general FAQ on keyclone is just basic stuff to let you start, but no sufficient to do anything to full potential of keyclone :(

[Gurblash]

Hotkey.net, but Autohotkey is different story. it is way too complicated for my tastes.

Not to mention border line against the TOS/EULA for using outside macros and delay functions as well as possibilities to loop.

[Vyndree]

However, his name was definetly German, and he DID say "ans pls in easy english", which to me says, a lot of people were probably wasting a lot of typing time because
he's not really good at reading long, involved flames/arguments in English, and possibly wanted help in being pointed to the correct thread of one of the free MB software out there
due to his English skills.

Correct -- unfortunately my ability to identify foreign languages isn't great otherwise I could have moved him to the German forum (assuming that people's usernames are indeed named after their natural language). Perhaps if the OP would have had the chance to post more than once he would have clearly identified himself as German or wanting to move to the German forum and we could have done so.

Real quickly I want to state that I'm not taking sides in either of these, just trying to show some perspective so people don't turn this thread into a "He said, she said" argument. You'll see that my first post was a simple point-in-the-right direction and everything past that was just clarification on why the thread has degenerated into the state it has, as well as trying to calm people down so they don't lynch each other.

In any case, I can still see both sides of the coin. The German forum is still there -- he could still do a search IN GERMAN and come up with some useful topics. As I understand our german mod is also translating our stickies to german and writing his own german stickies. He could have also scrolled down and found some posts in his native language (if german IS his native language) and put his post in the correct place. So, I would have to say at this point both sides are still correct -- the OP doesn't seem to want to put a lot of effort into finding his answers -- which doesn't make for a person who will likely succeed finding answers on the free keyclone-like programs, and multiboxers who want things for free are not necesssarily TOU/EULA breakers.

[Freddie]

Hotkey.net, but Autohotkey is different story. it is way too complicated for my tastes.

Not to mention border line against the TOS/EULA for using outside macros and delay functions as well as possibilities to loop.

A person can use a kitchen knife to commit murder, but that doesn't mean kitchen knives are illegal. On the other hand, sawed-off shotguns are illegal in the U.S. all by themselves.

Programs are the same way. Some are kitchen knives and others are sawed-off shotguns.

So far as I know, AutoHotKey doesn't violate any rules. It's like a kitchen knife. People can use it in ways that break rules, but that's entirely up to them. The program itself doesn't violate anything.

Other programs are like sawed-off shotguns. All by themselves, regardless of how you use them, they break Blizzard's rules by reading packets or writing memory in WoW's address space. I can't name examples in this forum, but you probably know what I mean. One of these programs has been in the news a lot lately because Blizzard is suing its publisher.

[Gurblash]

[HULK]

Hotkey.net, but Autohotkey is different story. it is way too complicated for my tastes.

Not to mention border line against the TOS/EULA for using outside macros and delay functions as well as possibilities to loop.

A person can use a kitchen knife to commit murder, but that doesn't mean kitchen knives are illegal. On the other hand, sawed-off shotguns are illegal in the U.S. all by themselves.

Programs are the same way. Some are kitchen knives and others are sawed-off shotguns.

So far as I know, AutoHotKey doesn't violate any rules. It's like a kitchen knife. People can use it in ways that break rules, but that's entirely up to them. The program itself doesn't violate anything.

Other programs are like sawed-off shotguns. All by themselves, regardless of how you use them, they break Blizzard's rules by reading packets or writing memory in WoW's address space. I can't name examples in this forum, but you probably know what I mean. One of these programs has been in the news a lot lately because Blizzard is suing its publisher.

<Hotkey F1>
<SendPC local>
<SendWinM wow1>
<Text /><Wait 100><Text cast [target=focus-target-target] HolyLight><Key Enter>
<SendWinM wow2>
<Text /><Wait 100><Text cast [target=focus-target-target] HolyLight><Key Enter>
Please note that a <wait> is usually required because WoW takes a long time to move the cursor to the chat line. Some people think this type of hotkey violates Blizzard's rules, so use it at your own risk.

"Heres a knife, heres who you can use it on, heres how you can do it... but I should warn you its against the rules." To my knowledge said person who gave the knife, who showed them how to use it, and what to use it on... would be an accessory to a crime. Not to cross planes between a software and shanking someone, just completing your Euphamism.

The difference between 'said program that shall not be named' and HKN/AHK is that in their current state they are Free Software and are not as publicly known as 'that program that we shall not name.'

These scripting interfaces don't belong on this community anymore than 'the program that shall not be named' does.

... yes I just went THERE.

[/HULK]

[Khazrael]

And thus, the Gurblash did pick up his mighty sword. He used it to smite his foes, in a blaze of purity and light they were vanquished.

I'm going to give Gurblash' post a big fat QUOTED FOR TRUTH.

[Vyndree]

I'm going to give Gurblash' post a big fat QUOTED FOR TRUTH.

I would have to agree.

I rarely encourage newbies to use AHK because, out of pure ignorance/innocense, they might accidentally break the rules and get banned. It's like people who got banned for using the delay capabilities of the Logitech G15 just because they saw World of Warcraft stats advertized on the logitech website and assumed the entire thing would be legit.

It's not to say that you WILL get banned for using AHK in a non-rulebreaking way... But Blizzard has banned people for using Innerspace (not the bot) in a non-rulebreaking way simply because Innerspace started becoming heavily associated with certain botting programs. Death by association. During one of these mass banwaves (thanks to the automatic warden flagging or however they found them), it can take weeks just to get a RESPONSE from account administration. So, even if you're innocent, you'll have to spend weeks trying to prove it to Blizzard.

Would you want to take that chance?

[Freddie]

[quote='Gurblash',index.php?page=Thread&postID=7606 0#post76060]To my knowledge said person who gave the knife, who showed them how to use it, and what to use it on... would be an accessory to a crime. Not to cross planes between a software and shanking someone, just completing your Euphamism.[/quote]
Well sir, you've accused me of being an accessory to a crime. This is a serious charge, so I must stand trial. Let's lay the facts on the table. The following link shows what I tell people about using HotkeyNet with WoW. You be the judge!

[url='http://www.hotkeynet.com/wow/wow-rules.html']Playing by the Rules[/url]

Edit: And since you singled out the Wait command, please note the warning to WoW players on the page that describes that command:

Wait

[Gurblash]

Playing by the Rules[/url]

I bet 'program that shall not be named' had the same thing infact I even went through the trouble of finding it for ya.

Q: Is using 'PROGRAM THAT SHALL NOT BE NAMED' cause for suspension/ban?
A: Yes, 'PROGRAM THAT SHALL NOT BE NAMED' is against the Terms of Service as provided by Blizzard for World of Warcraft. If you are detected using 'PROGRAM THAT SHALL NOT BE NAMED', your account will be suspended for 72 hours and very likely banned completely. While 'PROGRAM THAT SHALL NOT BE NAMED' does not violate any of the terms listed under Blizzard's "Client/Server Manipulation Policy", it is still a third-party program and their Terms of Service are very open in what falls under that definition, meaning they can find you in violation for pretty much anything they want.
'PROGRAM THAT SHALL NOT BE NAMED' provides a number of features to help lower the risk of detection - for more information, see the next topic.

Bottom line: use at your own risk.

Last I heard they were in court....