Quote Originally Posted by 'MindCrime',index.php?page=Thread&postID=73926#pos t73926
I didn't read all the replies but from what i understand for spell hit/crit is that the roll is hit/resist(partial)/crit. So at certain point hit = crit. A fully resisted spell could have been a crit had it not been resisted.

I know i might get some arguments here because i know the melee roll system is different.

I know on my old raiding warlock with 30% crit (character sheet+desto talents) my 30% crit wasn't 30% on bosses until i stacked enough hit.
The first person who replied answered it right on, it is from talents, 5% from elemental tree and 5% from resto tree.

These do not show up on the character screen, just like warriors who spec for 2handers don't see the +5% crit increase on their stats, but its there.

Theres where the extra is coming from.