BG = Waste of Time... Isn't it?

[Anozireth]

I've been 70 almost 4 weeks and still have trouble with some normal instances. Maybe it's time to drop the boomkin in PVE and roll my pally as the tank full time. Her prot gear is about half greens and half blues though, so even there I'd have some gearing up to do before I could think about heroics. I doubt my resto shammy is up to par yet either. Maybe once I get the weapons from PVP I'll be up to it.

[Zzyzxx71]

/pulls out his "I suck balls" stand

Currently I 4 box. My spec (at least last week) wasn't appropriate for arena, I lost 10 last week. Since I only have 4, I can't do heroics for badges yet. I have a 5th, but he's only 14 right now.

I'm at this nasty hump - I rape regulars, but dont' need anything from them. I can't do heroics with 4, and don't have the gear for success in arena yet.

So whenever I have spare time and the dailies are done - it's BG's for me.

[xtobbenx]

I am curantly gearing up my shammys and i'm doing a mix of both atm. I do SP HC each day as i up till today wanted/needed that shoulders from the last boss. which i got the last of 4 out of today, grats to me And then i make sure to atleast do the PVP daily and i normaly do some more as BGing/pvping for me is what i enjoy in wow mainly. And i have lots of fun BBQ'n hords in BGs

But a good tip for AV that id like to share is:

When i enter and is w8ing for the gates to open i normlay will have the lead so ppl will notice me and i say in /BG something like this: "i'm a 4elly shammy boxerer and i need 1 healer and a few other dps to join me defending DUN(allie)" and ppl normaly go "count me in".... they all get this really friendly like we will win with this guy on our team additude. And i take them down to the brige before DUN, stand on a spot where the towers will suport... Add a healer to your grp and tell him to keep you alive and you will kill anything.. tell the other dpsers to kill melees that attack you... That way i normaly will hold the bride unpasabol for the hords and the normlay pve allies will do as allways, galv, towers, drek and we win with the hords standing and pushing on me the whole game.

Try that and i think that you will enjoy it alot more then the run down to drek and make sure you have all the tons with you etc..

[xtobbenx]

BTW.. about the losing in 5v5 thingi... i had 4-6 the first week when i hit 70 with my ellys + 1 frost mage that i randomly found.. all had greens and some blues and we owned some full epic teams.

I have a few more epics now and is keeping it steady around 1400ish.. aiming to get it to 1500 before the s4 where i will get all the new gear and and remove my greens. So i dont know what you guys are doing but wining some 5v5 even with crapy gear is really posibol, just get in 1 extra guy to help you out and try as good as you can.. at some point/rating you will start to win and learn.

[Jorai]

if you aren't having fun then it is surely a waste of time. i'd say the same about heroics and raids. when the game becomes a job grinding for gear then all you have is a pseudo-materialistic desire fueling your actions which is a waste of time, isn't it?

i like battlegrounds because it's just more random than arena. arena is alot more like PvE than people realize - with all the guides and strats against specific team combos. you won't find yourself charging a group alone in an arena. at the same time, alot of people doing battlegrounds are easy prey and that can get a bit boring too. best is fighting against premades in BG's.

doing heroics alone might be more of a challenge, but doing heroics with a good group is easy, and to me boring....i was never into doing instances conventionally. i leveled my first character with 2 friends and we 3-manned most instances as pally, warrior, rogue. it was very difficult lol .... but rewarding. we made new strategies for things that could be easy with just one or two more people.

now i am enjoying PvE again because doing instances with just 3 locks or 3 locks and 1 priest seems pretty challenging and fun.

low level battlegrounds are harder than 70 bracket because of the twinks.. if you are not a twink and you have to fight twinks it gets more difficult....but 3x drain life and 9 debuffs downing a twink rogue or warrior is priceless

[Anozireth]

My latest gig is running AV, and taking Galv. down. Then I normally turn around and head back to play defense. I've found that I can hold 10 - 15 horde at the bridge by myself for a long time. Then once a few others figure out I'm playing hardcore D. it turns its an epic turtle match - giving the offensive alliance players longer to win.

This is similar to what I do, but I'm not dirty alliance. :P First, Balinda dies ASAP. By then, the allies have usually killed Galv and taken IBT, so I head back and recap IBT, usually with a couple of curious folks in tow. After recapping IBT, IBGY and then TP, I find that they're quite easy to hold most of the time. Usually alliance has taken FWGY and rushed the RH so they just spawn there and stay out of the way. Holding the two towers buys our offense the time they need to make it to Vann. There's no chance anything short of a T6 geared, prot-spec tank with equally geared healers is surviving with two WMs still up (and how often do you see those guys in BGs ), so the allies just wipe over and over at Drek.

[Codam]

*edit* Sorry, that was a really dumb question to ask, and I found my answer in a big fat sticky on the official WoW forums, PVP section *edit*