The No Focus Manifesto v0.1

[nogbog]

What about petattack?

I've been using /petattack [target=focustarget]

Edit: i'm just using /petattack [target=main-target, nodead, harm] []
kind screwed if he dies though

[nogbog]

I've gave your no-focus macros a go

While questing its fine, but in instances where i'm chain killing mobs, its gets a little sketchy.
What happens is that for whatever reason, sometimes my slaves targets will change from the main, to the target, i couldn't work out why. Its not all the time, its just some of the time when i'm spamming my pew pew button, which is:

/cast [target=targettarget, harm] [] Shadow Bolt

[Zzyzxx71]

Do you have TAB on do not pass? I had that happen for a while until I realized I had 1 clone that was selecting via tab/

[nogbog]

Yeh i do have it on do not pass.
It happens even on just single targets, whats the possibility of it breaking down cuz i whack the button too much too fast?

[Zzyzxx71]

doesn't happen to me and I mash the living hell out of LB/FS/CL, etc... now it DOES happen (on purpose) for when I have to melee something - do you have any lines that would initiate melee combat?

[Trama]

Thanks for these macro's, it has changed my world, seriously.

The only issue that I am encountering is having to retarget the "Brain" when I skin with one of my slaves. I think I can macro skinning though, using a macro like this:

/cast [target=targettarget, dead] Skinning

That way he won't change targets, right?

Yes, that will work. That's what I use.

Perhaps I am doing something wrong with my skinning macro, I can skin my main target with no problems, but when the skinner loots what he skins (auto loot turned on), he still loses his target.

I like these macros a lot, but I find that I am constantly resetting alts targets back to the main (skinning, quest item looting, mining, herbing, etc.) I think that I may cut over to /focus macros so I don't have to do quite as much target management. Anyone else have this issue?

[Zzyzxx71]

If you're using the /follow macro listed at the beginning, regaining follow/target on your main shouldn't be an issue - then again I may not have a grasp on exactly what the problem is.

[Trama]

I am using the follow macro at the beginning for sure. But the issue is I have to keep pressing it after almost every kill. The alts change targets when looting and skinning. I am in the Barrens still and so I am skinning after almost every kill, not to mention grinding through the collect quests.

Its not a huge deal, but I essentially have to retarget the "Brain" on one of them after each kill. The use of a /focus macro would fix this perhaps. If I set the focus on all alts to the "Brain" their target doesn't matter when dpsing and such, correct? So I could loot and skin and save myself a key press with each mob.

[nogbog]

I've gave your no-focus macros a go

While questing its fine, but in instances where i'm chain killing mobs, its gets a little sketchy.
What happens is that for whatever reason, sometimes my slaves targets will change from the main, to the target, i couldn't work out why. Its not all the time, its just some of the time when i'm spamming my pew pew button, which is:

Found out the problem, /petattack, the petattacks the nearest target if i don't have something targeted and then that becomes my target.. if that makes sense.

Targets before petattack
Main: nothing
Slaves: main

Targets after petattack
Main: nearest mob
Slaves: nearest mob


It's actually really annoying, 1 because my pets are attacking something i didn't want to (even though i did press petattack) and 2 because all my no-focus macros break down when my main isnt' selected.

[Negative1]

There is one thing that I don't find I understand is the point to not using the focus. Stay with me now i understand that the point is to use focus for CC and the like but let me try to explain how i see targeting:

In wow as multiboxers we basically have two target "slots" per character. Focus target and current target each of which with proper macros can function exactly like the other:
/cast [target=focustarget]
/cast [target=targettarget]

Thus if you have these two slots that work about the same lets consider the subtle differences... the big one is that focus remains more constant and can only be cleared with /clearfocus or by setting a new focus, thus none of the problems with accidentally tab targeting or losing target cause of looting or skinning or anything else that may cause your current target to be lost.

Now as for CC when using focus to designate main. You still have your other target "slot" which in this case is current target.

So when using focus:
button1: /cast [target=focustarget, harm] pewpew spell
button2: /cast polymorph

the dps spell lands on your mains target and the polymorph lands on your current target which can be aquired through an assist button prior to combat or during combat. If you have multiple characters that can CC, the use of round robin on your assist button will allow you to set different CC targets.

The reason I find this to be the better solution is because the CC targets are less permanent than you main...Therefore you should use the more permanent target "slot" (focus) to designate your main and the more volatile target "slot" (current target) to designate CC.