the main problem is this thread isn't in the right forum.

spoonfeeding the noobies is ok, since most of use were young once (well, except maybe wilbur )
and as long as its in the noobie area, the rest don't have to worry about it

i'll move the thread to reduce the popcorn-grazing and reduce the temptation for you crusty old timers to pounce on the noobie sheep