ok then, i guess ill just have to tell my guildies to look at just the boss dps when they give me shit for it because there seems to be less of a difference lol. thx for the help. and also all my gear pieces are from the outlands quests all of them are almost exactly identical with the exception of the one i control, he has the blade of trapped knowledge that i snagged for 8g on AH wewt!!