thanks for the reply. Yeah I think los is the key. Im open to try anything at this point. Do you think the fact that there in full s3 and im in S1 makes a big dif? My biggest prob against these type of teams is that I go oom way before they do. X( Maybe im expecting to much. Also all my healers are RL friends with crap gear. There pretty much tagging along for points. Does your healer make a big dif in your games? Sorry for rattling off all the questions. Just trying to own it up